Saint Petersburg

[QUOTE=Protocol;1943745]I've been in and out of SPB for some years. I don't wander too far. Maximus has been the barometer for me. The first time I went maybe six years ago it was packed with gorgeous blond girls and girls with great bodies. If a girl was older she was like a 31 year old super hottie still that didn't lose anything because of her age but had just lost the vapid stupidity and quest for brand names, along with the arrogance and disdain of the younger girls. And had also lost the pushiness because it's got to be tiresome to be so push.

But those days are over.

It's been a slow slide. The prices went up over the years and the quality has been in a death spiral. SPB has always been the ugly sister compared to Moscow and maybe with the harder economic times the better looking girls have migrated down to the city where the traffic never sleeps.

Because they are sure not here now..[/QUOTE]OMG, you seem very unhappy these days. Sorry about that, I hope you get back to more optimistic thoughts soon.

I agree that there are many girls in the "sugar Daddy" league that you describe, but, to be fair there are others as well, not necessarily in SPB, for less.

Anyway, you are right, I go to SPB, not only for the buildings, but also the museums, the palaces, the gardens, the opera and ballet at the Mariinski. Not topics for this forum, I presume.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Protocol;1943745]I've been in and out of SPB for some years... [/QUOTE]Unfortunately I have to agree with you.

The level of prettiness among the WGs has been falling in the last few years, plus the level of Gold-digging among "non WGs" is rapidly growing.

But don't make too many hopes about Moscow being better then SPB man, I live here and I've seen the development myself.

[QUOTE=Protocol;1943745]I've been in and out of SPB for some years. I don't wander too far. Maximus has been the barometer for me. The first time I went maybe six years ago it was packed with gorgeous blond girls and girls with great bodies. If a girl was older she was like a 31 year old super hottie still that didn't lose anything because of her age but had just lost the vapid stupidity and quest for brand names, along with the arrogance and disdain of the younger girls. And had also lost the pushiness because it's got to be tiresome to be so push.

But those days are over.

[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more. I have only been going to SPB for about three years and have seen the change just in that time. My last trip to Maximus was a real dogfest of girls pleading for the $500 "all night" back at my hotel (=quickie). And the one and only stunner I met that whole night was from, yes, Belarus.

What little time spent in Moscow, they are more expensive and nowhere near the quality as SPB.

I am still finding some success at the salons for now but when that dries up, and it will, then will probably pack this endeavour in that city as well.

[QUOTE=Meesee;1945125]I couldn't agree more. I have only been going to SPB for about three years and have seen the change just in that time. My last trip to Maximus was a real dogfest of girls pleading for the $500 "all night" back at my hotel (=quickie). And the one and only stunner I met that whole night was from, yes, Belarus.

What little time spent in Moscow, they are more expensive and nowhere near the quality as SPB.

I am still finding some success at the salons for now but when that dries up, and it will, then will probably pack this endeavour in that city as well.[/QUOTE]Ahhhhh yeah these girls. The all night promise. Love that line.

In Moscow now, I may pass by night flight just to say no to all the robots in there. There is some pleasure in that. If you go with one of those girls you are in for one of the most mechanical fake experiences of your life. It's like punching yourself in the face for $500.

I don't know what is setting the low bar entirely other than Instagram. I have checked with high level agencies that are a major pain in the ass to just begin to talk to. But you see legit photos and real girls. The thing is, they are pretty much real girls. Some of them are model quality but. 3,500 euro for a couple of hours? If they are asking it, someone is paying it. But for the most part it is your fairly average kind of girl, not bad looking, someone you'd be pleased to talk to in a club and date but would you fork over $1500 for spending a couple of hours with her? Probably not. Because once all the makeup and clothes are gone, she's just a girl. And nothing special. It's not like these girls are great in bed all the time. So that's the risk you take.

All I can imagine is that our southern neighbors with their fetish for blondes and their need for status symbols blow out this money and they really do not care. What they got is the headgame bonus. *I* am with *this girl* who otherwise would not be giving me the time of day. It's like a watch or a Ferrari or anything else. But it's an empty experience, no fun, no laughs, no nothing. And when you take away the makeup, the hairstyle, the instagram filters and the perfect poses, with sideways hips and standing on the toes, really it's not that beautiful a girl after all.

They are winning this game, the girls that is, not us.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1943905]OMG, you seem very unhappy these days. Sorry about that, I hope you get back to more optimistic thoughts soon.

I agree that there are many girls in the "sugar Daddy" league that you describe, but, to be fair there are others as well, not necessarily in SPB, for less.

Anyway, you are right, I go to SPB, not only for the buildings, but also the museums, the palaces, the gardens, the opera and ballet at the Mariinski. Not topics for this forum, I presume.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]That indeed is the true reason to visit that city. If you get the girls out of your head it is a great place. Factor in the girls and. You ruined your vacation.

[QUOTE=Protocol;1943745]I've been in and out of SPB for some years. I don't wander too far. Maximus has been the barometer for me. The first time I went maybe six years ago it was packed with gorgeous blond girls and girls with great bodies. If a girl was older she was like a 31 year old super hottie still that didn't lose anything because of her age but had just lost the vapid stupidity and quest for brand names, along with the arrogance and disdain of the younger girls. And had also lost the pushiness because it's got to be tiresome to be so push. But those days are over....[/QUOTE]I think that is a great description of what is going on in Russia, and to some extent around the world. But I am surprised that you write this specifically about Petersburg. I would say Petersburg is way better than Moscow for brothel hopping, lower prices, more attractive girls, and above all friendlier and more sincere girls (relatively speaking).

Zavist is a first chain of men bars, with a wide range of entertainment opportunities and pleasures, starting from easy flirting up to erotic show and seductive beauty of a women body. Each place has its own atmosphere and charm, and its own specific entertaining thematic programs:

Show-bar. A night club atmosphere, you can enjoy gorgeous show and party hard.

Strip-bar. A true striptease and a private foam-show in jacuzzi.

Lounge-bar a comfortable lounge rest in the pleasant female company.

Topless-bar. Nearly all staff reveals the beauty of the female body.

Cabaret-bar. A show program and seductive private dances.

Gentleman-bar. A new format of the men's entertainment.

A large choice of drinks, shakes and cocktails is at your service. Not to mention hookah and snacks, private VIP zones, entertaining karaoke, spa rooms and a crazy-menu.

Zavistbar? What a surprise I've been in this strip bar recently. My friends wanted me to see more then Hermitage in this city so we spent a night here. Passionate girls haunted my eyes, beckoning with their bodies. I didn't even know Zavistbar is so famous though it was really impressive.

[QUOTE=Protocol;1943745]I've been in and out of SPB for some years. I don't wander too far. Maximus has been the barometer for me. The first time I went maybe six years ago it was packed with gorgeous blond girls and girls with great bodies. If a girl was older she was like a 31 year old super hottie still that didn't lose anything because of her age but had just lost the vapid stupidity and quest for brand names, along with the arrogance and disdain of the younger girls. And had also lost the pushiness because it's got to be tiresome to be so push.

But those days are over.

It's been a slow slide. The prices went up over the years and the quality has been in a death spiral. SPB has always been the ugly sister compared to Moscow and maybe with the harder economic times the better looking girls have migrated down to the city where the traffic never sleeps.

Because they are sure not here now.

Don't get me wrong, it is still a whole level above the BS that you're going to get in almost every other country, but this club is called Maximus because that's the level of pushiness you're going to deal with. By the time you sit down you will have four girls surrounding you interrogating you with the same BS questions you'll always get. Where are you from, have you been here before, where are you staying...[/QUOTE]Your opinion is really true. When I read it I remember all those moments that I experienced. You can buy a girl in this town, but unfortunately, not love. Bitter truth!

I remember I felt myself really young when I visited this Russian strip bar Zavistbar It was Sadovaya street in the very center. Zavist is a Russian word but I understand the meaning of this word cause the beautiful girls and the relax in this bar. Really want to envy. Russian people are very generous. Luxury snacks and caviar and drinks. Amazing! If once I'll get in this city go there again.

[QUOTE=EddyBeg;1988810]I remember I felt myself really young when I visited this Russian strip bar Zavistbar It was Sadovaya street in the very center. Zavist is a Russian word but I understand the meaning of this word cause the beautiful girls and the relax in this bar. Really want to envy. Russian people are very generous. Luxury snacks and caviar and drinks. Amazing! If once I'll get in this city go there again.[/QUOTE]Wow! I'm actually is looking for something like this for good evening after working day. You mean this one [URL]http://zavistbar.com[/URL]? I'm really nearby now.

Hi all,

So I'll be moving to St. Pete in 2017 and was wondering if any mongers on the forum are living there? Would love to meet up if there are some. I've been on this website a long time and have lived all over the world. Looking forward to my time in Russia.

So finally got to try out Russia for my first time. And pretty much everything that could go wrong wen't wrong haha! But I loved it.

Arrived at airport and went straight to buy sim card to make everything easy. But it turned out my fecking phone was locked to my operator in Sweden (which was weird because I have been changing operator. Ironically Tele2 is kinda big in Russia and I just changed from that in Sweden. Duh. I immediately thought damn this was really bad because the list of roaming costs I got on SMS from my operator was expensive. But at least I could use roaming whenever I needed, right?

No not in Russia. For some reason it refuse to connect with 3 G /4 G and I can only make SMS and calls.

By now I start realizing this expert level country is going to be bumped up to master level, or more.

My first evening I had a set dinner date and even that turned out to be a hassle because she was ofc very late (even after rescheduling the dinner). And as soon as I left my hotels WiFi I was out in the dark.

Some WiFi in the city did work but some don't. This is because again you need to enter your phone number to get a pin code and unlock the "free WiFi". My operator is obviously garbage. The first thing I will change when coming back (Tele2 here I come again). However being at a high end restaurant really opened my eyes to how many nice looking ladies there are. Even coming from Stockholm it felt like a lot (usually everyone is sub-par to Swedish beauties).

Since my dinner date was a non-pro I won't bring up details from that. But she were 20 years old an tall and slim. Having her own central apartment. Think her parents had deep pockets.

Next day I decided that even though everything got so mixed up in my preparations I just had to try mongering. For some reason I love the challenge and after all the hunt in itself is one of the best parts in my book.

Started googling around (again) like crazy and sites like rusdosug. Ru was OFC blocked on the DNS level. Tried VPN to get around it but no luck. Found these forums that I somehow missed when I read thru ISG before and got very interested in Chika / Cheeky:

[URL]https://forum.amurspb.net/index.php?showtopic=71706&st=2640[/URL]

So prepared my translator app for offline mode and the basic questions I needed. Along with phone numbers (to several places as backup) and their names. When I wanted my hotel to fix a taxi for me they pushed to know where I was going. And I had to argue that I wanted to talk with the taxi driver where to "drive me around". Really weird but after a while they finally ordered a normal taxi. Turned out the taxi driver spoke at least a fair bit of English and he called the Chika / Cheeky places for me to find out the address. And I thought finally my luck is turning, but no.

This weekend was the Soldiers holiday and now the place only took bookings for the next day. So wen't for my last option to let the driver fix a place and he OFC knew where to start calling to meet a girl. He asked me if I wanted "good girls" or "normal girls".

The good places he said cost 5000 RUB / h and that was fine for me. Told him I wanted 2 h with a very good girl.

When we arrived I gave him a tip and he helped me up to the door (just like previous reports). It really is like a thriller movie passing the heavy metal doors like someone mentioned here. My taxi driver told me this building were over 300 years old and one of the first built in SPB. There were only a handful of girls and quality "OK". But very slim ones and two spoke pretty good English. The place was next to a strip club too.

Took 2 h plus some champagne. There were no real extras offered by my chosen girl so I thought this is going to be really mediocre. But at least I'm helping out the local economy a bit.

We agreed to have sex 2 times during this time which was no problem at all. Kinda standard but at the same time she did deep throat and I could pound away in any position I wanted. She really seemed to like it starting to stimulate herself when I went hard in doggy style. Mind you that she probably weighed in on 45 kg and were 168 cm tall. Very nice skin, thick long hair and ye slim by the very meaning. This is my favorite build in ladies.

So overall was a decent pound for sure. The sight from behind with her little pussy looking to get ripped in two was a sight to behold. And it was very wet too! Only sad thing was the no-anal rule she had. After my two times I hooked in to their WiFi and ordered a Uber and headed out in the darkness.

Funny thing was that when I was leaving the owner were watching cameras waiting for a bunch of hooded guys that camped outside the door before letting me out. And she talked about "police" to the girl and they seemed nervous. So it hit my mind that this master level could even go higher to god-level of difficulty for me.

Luckily they left after a while. Master level was after all enough for me to handle.

As people have mentioned before going to SPB plainly for mongering reasons is not recommended unless you have a decent level of Russian.

But the opportunities are very high and I really liked the challenge and risk-reward offered. Not to mention that everything is very very cheap. Probably not true for Moscow. Luckily I will come back in a month from now and I can't wait. Dunno why I loved it so much but I guess rough and hard environment is up my alley.

Been to Ukraine many times and almost every East European country. Except for Prague which is a easy and cheap mongering place SPB is now my absolute favorite. Even though it's by far the hardest place I've been to (especially when you fuck up like I did in my preparations).

On a side note I stayed at Petro Hotel which I can recommend for a cheap 4 star conveniently in the center. Quality was very good and spacious for a deluxe room. Would be perfect for a outcall session. Got 4-5 m in ceiling height and nice architecture.

No card for elevators if you manage to get a outcall.

Restaurants are open late, 01.00 or later in most cases. The expensive one usually state "until the last guest leave". Not on par with Kiev where many have 24/7 with sleeping chefs in the joint. Still better than most of Europe.

There were also some kind of 90 ies-retro-festival going on in Russia that were on all TV channels and people were singing bad Eurovision-90 ies-shit everywhere. Which hurt my fine ears a fair bit.

I texted (in Russian) probably 20+ numbers from my foreign number and not a single one answered. Except 1 of the Whatsapp numbers I texted. But they were closed.

Got some help from a nice fellow punter here on the forum to get in contact with a girl that new pornstars and such. But unluckily she never answered my emails before I got here. So maybe better luck next time I come!.

Felt kinda safe in the evenings / night time. Even when walking around in a expensive cashmere coat and black diamonds. Never even saw anyone I would label a "thug".

Now back to my Russian studies. And I can already see the potential of getting a even hotter girlfriend here than I had in Kiev, Riga and Tallinn before! Next time Mother Russia won't kick me in the ass. At least not this hard; the (But I loved it).

Hello,

Any recent information about opportunities to meet some working girls in Corinthia Hotel and around?

What is the most recent rate for a lobby girl for hour of room stay in the city?

I've been on this site for many years, and other sites like this even longer. Every now and then I check out other forum locations to see what's going on in that part of the world. I've checked this forum over the years from time to time as well.

And this post, is by far one of the best posts I've ever read anywhere. Really. Props to Protocol. I don't know if you meant it or not, but your discussion of the ladies and scene in SPB (which I've never been to), touched on so many social / societal / economic ills, and in such a simple manner.

A tip of the cap to you Protocol.

[QUOTE=Protocol;1943745]I've been in and out of SPB for some years. I don't wander too far. Maximus has been the barometer for me. The first time I went maybe six years ago it was packed with gorgeous blond girls and girls with great bodies. If a girl was older she was like a 31 year old super hottie still that didn't lose anything because of her age but had just lost the vapid stupidity and quest for brand names, along with the arrogance and disdain of the younger girls. And had also lost the pushiness because it's got to be tiresome to be so push.

But those days are over.

It's been a slow slide. The prices went up over the years and the quality has been in a death spiral. SPB has always been the ugly sister compared to Moscow and maybe with the harder economic times the better looking girls have migrated down to the city where the traffic never sleeps.

Because they are sure not here now.

Don't get me wrong, it is still a whole level above the BS that you're going to get in almost every other country, but this club is called Maximus because that's the level of pushiness you're going to deal with. By the time you sit down you will have four girls surrounding you interrogating you with the same BS questions you'll always get. Where are you from, have you been here before, where are you staying....[/QUOTE]