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Macho Dik,

I read your last post. It looks too much like the 'Manager' style.

Surely you know the answers to the questions you pose?

If you had read my post only a few days ago you would not be asking some of those questions.

As I am generous by nature, I will give one little tit bit of info you should already know, from reading this forum. Your telling me your going to be in AC, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. With the exception of Saturday, you could not have made a worse choice of days to visit any bar scene, incl. AC.

Having a pm facility, does not trick me. Do your homework, then ask questions to refine the info you have. Good luck on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, LOL.

Oh, X Man, you should have been a detective.

My German trike driver. Oh he had a ghostly look about him. He was strongly built as a Hun should be, no weakling pinoy this one. Plus he had a seriousness and sadness about him. What gave it all away was his voice. Deep and heavy. Genetics, cause he never had a chance to copy his Daddy, in that or any other regard. He said his father was from Germany, someone else seemed to know more about his daddy than trike driver, I think it was the flip people who adopted him (as an abandoned baby). And confirmed his Dad was the real thing, a German from Germany. War crimes, now this, when will it ever end, for 'us' ? LOL.

So X, if you think you are the father, then please own up, LOL.

As you have a forensic mind, I assign you the task of tracking down his Dad. Start with the cemeteries in Germany LOL (kid 47, dad most prob dead).

Think I will run into German trike driver again. Anyway I will ask the 'depot' for the Hun driver, and they will deliver. Flips always deliver for me, well not always, but mostly. Its cause of my attitude lads, cause of my attitude. I will get the haunted Hun again, next trip and take a pic, and send to you X Man somehow. Will not post publicly, of course. Its a sad story, but one of many, guys spreading their sperm, but not their better self. Pic says: "Hun, hun" ! On his own, he weighs the trike down, that one. On his own.

Anyway, second time I wanted trike same spot (NOT outside Kokomos, no where near a tourist strip, this time) Hun turns up. Drops me off at Margarita, I give him P100 , for a P50 trip, and said "We must look after the German Brotherhood" , big beaming smile from him, and a genuine 'thank you'. I told him earlier on this 2nd trip, I too had a german father who pissed off on me and I too was adopted. So we are in effect 'brothers'. Stories, stories, there are heaps of them. Phils a great source of 'happenings'. More happens to me in a day in Phils than a year back home! Except of course, when I am with Miss AC!

If only, if only.

[QUOTE=SaltyPete;1935802]This is a great list, Simmer! I'd like to correct the prices at EDSA, though. Php1950 is paid to the bar and the girl charges 2000-2500ST, 3500-4000 LT. So yeah, it is not the cheapest option. But for me, it is the best.[/QUOTE]Add subic 1500 p BF for all night long with sexy, sweet young (21 why o, 34 b-24-34) mmmmmmmmmasarap! Cheers!

Just a few observations of my time in Angeles last weekend.

The perimeter bars, much the same, many bars quiet of both girls and punters, the few bars that have punters and girls are Korean owned and girls mainly aimed at that market, all are welcome though, girl quality definitely low.

Fields, Atlantis had customers and was the busiest for girl numbers and punters of all the bars I visited, cold beer, popcorn and good shows, no stunners but some cuties in the shows.

Koreans, Malaysians throwing money around like millionaires and hence have the better looking girls sitting with them in most of fields avenue bigger bars.

As the bar scene was getting boring real quick and I was not ready for sleep decided to head on to the freelance discos, here's what I found.

Skytraxs, Had not been here for some while but had over the years met some cuties here, very small amount of freelancer girls in here now, mostly girls in groups with pinoy friends / husbands / boyfriends, the freelancers were mainly on the dance floor surrounded by a mixture of Malays, Japanese, pinoys and a couple of westerners, basically the guys outnumbered the freelancers by a long long way, moved on.

High society, Many more freelancers here and a jump up in quality girls, no stunners but definitely some cuties, the punters were totally different here to skytraxs,9 out of 10 were Koreans, the best looking girls were sat at tables with Koreans surrounded by top shelf bottles and a table full of food, girls that were not seated definitely no as attractive / slim.

All in all, The guys having the best time in Angeles is the guys that are throwing money around like it is going out of fashion, the guys that are not spending large are not getting any attention from the cuties.

[QUOTE=SaltyPete;1935802]This is a great list, Simmer! I'd like to correct the prices at EDSA, though. Php1950 is paid to the bar and the girl charges 2000-2500ST, 3500-4000 LT. So yeah, it is not the cheapest option. But for me, it is the best.[/QUOTE]Thanks, and thanks for the correction. Guess it was more than I remember (4 years ago). Sometimes I wish this website had a Wiki section for each country that just had a very brief rundown on the modus operandus, costs, scams, etc. My first time in AC involved trawling through this website and several others to get the general lowdown on things (and even then jawdropped slightly at my bar bill. My fault entirely for failing to absorb the information succinctly).

[QUOTE=DCups;1936087]Add subic 1500 p BF for all night long with sexy, sweet young (21 why o, 34 b-24-34) mmmmmmmmmasarap! Cheers![/QUOTE]Good information. Is that literally the whole cost or is the girl expecting a couple of thou as well?

I probably should have said any "in bar pickups" (mostly those labelled barfine but plus others like LA Cafe) should expect to pay for lady drinks too, if not included in the bar fine to a limit. Damn those of us on a budget!

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1936133]High society, Many more freelancers here and a jump up in quality girls, no stunners but definitely some cuties, the punters were totally different here to skytraxs,9 out of 10 were Koreans, the best looking girls were sat at tables with Koreans surrounded by top shelf bottles and a table full of food, girls that were not seated definitely no as attractive / slim.[/QUOTE]The Koreans always bring their own girls to High Society.

[QUOTE=DCups;1936087]Add subic 1500 p BF for all night long with sexy, sweet young (21 why o, 34 b-24-34) mmmmmmmmmasarap! Cheers![/QUOTE]To DCups.

Most bar at Barrio barfined are 1800 -2000 p now days 1500 p price is 3 yr ago, I was there a few month ago quality is down and some girl don't stay all night.

Fast Eddie 48.

I must be lucky Eddie because I am there now and only paid 1500 p at midnight rambler for real sexy young one no kids all night long. The other one I met after work so there was no barfine at al but she was only a 6 but had nice tits and gave megood massage, ball licking blow joband three fucks for 1500 p. Ll

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1936565]To DCups.

Most bar at Barrio barfined are 1800 -2000 p now days 1500 p price is 3 yr ago, I was there a few month ago quality is down and some girl don't stay all night.

Fast Eddie 48.[/QUOTE].

DC,

I think you are indeed lucky as 1500 seems to be going the way of the Dodo. Seems to have changed a lot in the last year as many bars were still 1500 a year ago but only 3 months a go was hard to find. Forgive my ignorance but is Midnight Rambler an actual Bar Fine bar or a freelance joint? My MO these days is bar fine a few and make daytime arrangements with the ones you like (and are willing) to come over day time or their day off and pay half. Also agree with FE48 girls are no longer guaranteed all night best ask how long they stay before you do the deal unless you are happy with ST. I found a couple who just assumed it was ST. WTF? AC attitudes invading BB? I hope not!

Southeaster.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1936565]To DCups.

Most bar at Barrio barfined are 1800 -2000 p now days 1500 p price is 3 yr ago, I was there a few month ago quality is down and some girl don't stay all night.

Fast Eddie 48.[/QUOTE]Have to agree, my last trip a couple of months ago the girls were quoting 1800-2000 and hoping in vain someone might take the bait.

Have heard that many bars in barrio are now closing a few days per week due to lack of customers? Maybe that's why they have reduced the barfine to 1500 to try and get some bites?

Barrio for me has always been the poor brother of Angeles when it comes to bars and girls.

Few of the old school Angeles bar owners headed off to barrio some years back in a bid to make it the next Angeles, never even came close IMHO.

I got a full refund.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1935907]With due respect X, what exactly will one be complaining about, a runner?

As you are fully aware prostitution is illegal all over the Phills, taking a bargirl to your room for sex is HT which carries a mandatory 20 years in jail and is an unavailable offence if caught, the same for the bar that supplied said girl.

Please don't tell me that you actually think any one in the bar industry is going to admit to supplying girls for prostitution.

Best advice is fully expect most girls to skip early, do not complain to anyone, as said it could land one in very deep shit, pay up and move on with a smile.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1935907]Please don't tell me that you actually think any one in the bar industry is going to admit to supplying girls for prostitution.

Best advice is fully expect most girls to skip early, do not complain to anyone, as said it could land one in very deep shit, pay up and move on with a smile.[/QUOTE]My experience is different. I have received refunds of differing types in the past: Full, partials, and offers from mamas / managers to replace the bad girl with another girl. Have also been told NO REFUNDS. Hit / miss. At the very least, I'm going to lodge a complaint with the mama / manager; there is nothing to lose.

Thanks Westie for your input Westie, here is where asking for a refund can get very messy.

Good friend had arranged to take a girl for long time from a bar he is known in very well, girl did not fulfill her promises and left early, guy goes back to bar and complains to manager and mummy, was told OK we will speak to the girl and see what her side of the story is, come back tonight, well he went back that night only to be met by a very angry girl who was she felt being cheated out of her money, her story was that she had been forced to do things of an unnatural nature against her will (total bullshit) if the punter wanted to take the matter further then a police report would be filed, friend shit himself, excepted the loss and does not ask for refunds.

Another old timer friend in Angeles tried also to get a refund from a bar girl by complaining to the bar, as the punter was very well known to the bar and a big spender they offered to swap the girl, 3 nights later the old boy was put in hospital by the girls brothers / pinoy boyfriend.

These are a few things that can go wrong with asking for money back, yes years ago I too had many refunds / exchanges, now I find,1 the bars do not discuss prostitution and 2,my freedom and good health without broken bones is more important to me than a few dollars, each to their own I expect, but never forget we are but mere visitors with no rights what so ever, if the shit hits the fan then paying many many more times the price of a barfine for ones freedom / safety is to be fully expected.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1937058]My experience is different. I have received refunds of differing types in the past: Full, partials, and offers from mamas / managers to replace the bad girl with another girl. Have also been told NO REFUNDS. Hit / miss. At the very least, I'm going to lodge a complaint with the mama / manager; there is nothing to lose.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;1936697]DC,

I think you are indeed lucky as 1500 seems to be going the way of the Dodo. Seems to have changed a lot in the last year as many bars were still 1500 a year ago but only 3 months a go was hard to find. Forgive my ignorance but is Midnight Rambler an actual Bar Fine bar or a freelance joint? My MO these days is bar fine a few and make daytime arrangements with the ones you like (and are willing) to come over day time or their day off and pay half. Also agree with FE48 girls are no longer guaranteed all night best ask how long they stay before you do the deal unless you are happy with ST. I found a couple who just assumed it was ST. WTF? AC attitudes invading BB? I hope not!

Southeaster.[/QUOTE]It was a bar fine for 1500. She is 21 no kids great body tight pussy very affectionate all night long 3 pops joanna. Geez I don't give a crap if you guys don't believe me.