Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2993967]Lots of rookie mistakes but these can be fixed for your next trip.

1) Don't spend too much time with the girls if you aren't interested in them. 100% guarantee that they aren't going to go home with you for free just because you bought drinks for them.

2) don't argue with the girls or security. Talk directly to a manager. Ask the waiter to get him for you
F1 is a crazy time to be in So Paulo and in Scandello. I wouldn't go but others enjoy the craziness.[/QUOTE]These are all excellent points. During F1 week the garotas prices double & triple for average garota. Last year NFL in sao Paulo, the average scandallo garotas were streaming in from all of brasil, they were asking 2. 5!mil ,3 mil and 4 mil for an hour session upstairs. Bros first time to brasil, went nuts like the old days of help or 4 x4, with no porto (except google translate) they resorted to paying like ballers. F1 week same deal, average garotas asking price 2. 5 mil to 3 mil, scandallo did a special F1 deal to open the club on Sunday. Look for F1 weekend and NFL week promotion on scandallo instagram account.

The asking price is a premium during NFL and F1 weekend. Also weird WTF moment during NFL week was a whole bunch a sistas from philly in scandallo. They were giving brothers the evil eye for hooking up with all those fine ass big bunda loria brancas. Kkkk security eventually move their asses to the back patio corner table. Security had a hard time understanding hood slang, I helped move the group the fvck out the main room, and then I went back to my threesome garotas upstairs at the DJ booth.

Are you guys really paying almost 250 USD per hour for pussy in Scandallo?? That must be inflated gringo prices! I'm soon coming to Brazil and do not expect to pay that muchwhat is the normal going rate for experienced guys and did you manage to find anyone below 1000 r reais per hour. I would prefer to collect numbers and meet.

Them in my hotel later on for less. What do you normally pay them for all nighters? I read prices are much lower in the clinicas.

Your personality and thinking is the prime traits that end up the predicament being discussed. You fail to understand you are not in the states or europe where fairness is more available. You are on a different battlefield where you are the prey and source of income. They take your failure to fall back, deescalate and use that to there advantage to strip you of your money. Thats exactly what happened to this guy. Luck has been on your side but I won't say smarts.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2993946]Nothing like that has ever happened to me and I've been quite a few places. On the other hand, I'm not a chatter really. I have more trouble getting rid of girls than getting them to stay. But if I don't tell you I'm going to pay you for something don't expect that I'm going to give you any money for it. A tip is a tip because its optional. An agreement is not optional. In tyreses case, there was no agreement. She could have said no and left at any point in time. What's to prevent the girl from saying no, 1000 isn't enough it should be 3000 for me sitting here. Nothing. What if the guy intended to take her to a room but at the end she qoutes something too high. Does he still owe her money? No. I don't owe you anything unless I say I owe you something. Best to discourage this type of behavior.

I understand that the girls make money from sex. Then go have sex. Stop sitting around drinking and partying.

I'm much more of a rules based guy. You agree to pay the cover. You agree to pay for drinks. Its explicit. I hate this, I spent this time with you, so you owe me shit. I owe you nothing. My time is 100 times more valuable than yours.[/QUOTE].

Day time about 3 pm. About 4 girls, no stars but decent girls, shape. Owner said more come later. A guy that is a fixture there it seems insisted buying me a drink and gave me scoop on a few. English speaking black girl was sweet and aggressive so I chose her. Our session was very very intense and used up the full 1 HR as it ended with the phone ringing. The girl answered and mentioned time needed to shower. Which we did and it seem she wanted more but I was focus on not being charge extra. She was all smiles and as we stepped in the hallway the clean up lady was all smiles as well. I guess she heard alot LOL. She walked me to the front desk and I was shocked to see my bill 608. Quickly I ask what made the charges so high. So the guy who insisted to buy me a drink. They tried to charge me for those drinks. The shower me and the girl took after sex. They tried to say we were in the room hour 15 minutes. I challenged each addition and the guy confirmed he ordered the drinks and the girl came to my defense and said we were only in the room 1 HR. The charge dropped to 330 brl. Gave the girl a 30 brl tip and jump in a uber. So spas. Yankin no, tangara maybe, 57 house okay.

With no disrespect intended, let me offer my take.

[QUOTE=Tyrese1;2993765] This is where things started to get ugly. I told her to leave ... [/QUOTE]Actually telling her to leave your table -- after you yourself had invited her there -- was confrontational and humiliating to her. This is why the bouncer took her side. The right move was simply to switch your attention to another girl at the table and maybe get another bottle. The first girl would have probably left on her own -- or stayed and might have even agreed to your price later.

[QUOTE=Tyrese1;2993765] before 7 pm ... Chatted her up for a bit, she told me it was only her 2nd day working here ... I just told her are $1000 and let's go to the room [/QUOTE]Bingo -- this is one good way to do it especially if budget is a factor.

If you are acting like a high roller, getting tables and inviting half a dozen girls to join you, they reasonably expect that 2 k for upstairs would not be a problem, especially after they spent 2-3 valuable / peak hours entertaining you at your table.

It's not a regular club so you can't expect a prostitute working at Scandallo to spend two hours to entertain you for free. In Asia, men pay per drink or per hour to sit with a girl whereas in upscale boites they create an illusion that it's organic like a real club, but she still needs money to pay her rent.

[QUOTE=BusinessTravl;2993986]Are you guys really paying almost 250 USD per hour for pussy in Scandallo?? That must be inflated gringo prices![/QUOTE]Locals pay that price too. The sudden jump in price started around 2022 and 2023 on dating site first then Scandallo. We even have a theory for it. Take this and what other have said to form a better picture. All different observations can be right at the same time. One can make an negative observation at a high end clinica because he is given a small room and girl only provide CBJ. The other makes a positive observation because he is given a large room with a girl providing everything expected. One needs to take both points into account.

Looks like the talent is shrinking. Anyways made a quick decision on her girl. Her ass felt very naturally soft. Which convince me to overlook the breast. 500 brl was the damage plus 100 brl for the room. This was not the same experience I have had with other Brazilian girls. The kissing and affection was not there. The head game was there. But I pussy stunk. So much I never considered eating her. Haven't had that experience in awhile. Her breast was like a rock. And she kept grabbing my hand to touch them. She would accept cum in the face. I nutted on her titties. Gave her money and got the hell out of there. I was definitely going to return to Brazil cause the girl friend experience is insane. But I am also seeing the combination of uber, girls price, hotel, cambio not matching correct rates. These cost add up.

[QUOTE=BusinessTravl;2993986]Are you guys really paying almost 250 USD per hour for pussy in Scandallo?? That must be inflated gringo prices! I'm soon coming to Brazil and do not expect to pay that muchwhat is the normal going rate for experienced guys and did you manage to find anyone below 1000 r reais per hour. I would prefer to collect numbers and meet.[/QUOTE]On my last trip, 3 weeks ago, I found girls who did 800/900 per hour.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2993988]Your personality and thinking is the prime traits that end up the predicament being discussed. You fail to understand you are not in the states or europe where fairness is more available. You are on a different battlefield where you are the prey and source of income. They take your failure to fall back, deescalate and use that to there advantage to strip youof your money. Thats exactly what happened to this guy. Luck has been on your side but I won't say smarts.

.[/QUOTE]No offense taken. I'm not saying I would have punched her the face. But I also would not have paid 1000 R for nothing. I would have simply let the security escort me out. Or talked with the manager. She always has the option leave. Suppose there are 5 girls at the table, you going to give them all 1000 R? That's ridiculous. This was extortion plain and simple and shouldn't be allowed and the security guard, frankly should have been fired and the girl banned. I've been to countless of places in South America as well as asia, and never had anything like this happen to me. Imagine this, you let shit like this slide, and then girls start thinking oh, I don't even need to go to the room to make money. Girls just start pricing themselves out of ever going to the room, but stick around and hang out with clients and just demanding tips. Nah, don't accept it. Its bad for clients and bad for business.

Are you guys out of your minds?? Why the hell should you pay without receiving any pussy in return?? Never pay them only for their time, she should just leave and was free to do so. Girls will now demand 1000 reais just for talking and hanging out. Thanks a lot.

Those girls work for Scandallo thoughout the year I suppose. My first trip so I am a novice. Your visit is more often just for a week. So your rational becomes irrational for the establishment cause the girl becomes priority. They (girl & security) had more to gain by extracting this guy 1000 brl than excusing the lady from the table. Its all about money And if you don't know well this guy knows now. Lots of lessons in the foreign sex game.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2994085]No offense taken. I'm not saying I would have punched her the face. But I also would not have paid 1000 R for nothing. I would have simply let the security escort me out. Or talked with the manager. She always has the option leave. Suppose there are 5 girls at the table, you going to give them all 1000 R? That's ridiculous. This was extortion plain and simple and shouldn't be allowed and the security guard, frankly should have been fired and the girl banned. I've been to countless of places in South America as well as asia, and never had anything like this happen to me. Imagine this, you let shit like this slide, and then girls start thinking oh, I don't even need to go to the room to make money. Girls just start pricing themselves out of ever going to the room, but stick around and hang out with clients and just demanding tips. Nah, don't accept it. Its bad for clients and bad for business.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2994110]Those girls work for Scandallo thoughout the year I suppose. My first trip so I am a novice. Your visit is more often just for a week. So your rational becomes irrational for the establishment cause the girl becomes priority. They (girl & security) had more to gain by extracting this guy 1000 brl than excusing the lady from the table. Its all about money And if you don't know well this guy knows now. Lots of lessons in the foreign sex game.[/QUOTE]People come back to places they like. They don't go to places that have bad reputations. I'm pretty sure there are a lot less guys in Brazil willing to spend 1000 to 2000 R for an hour of sex than there are women in Brazil willing to sell themselves for 1000 R to 2000 R an hour. And of course its all about money. No doubt. You can have my money, but not for nothing. Like I said before this was extortion. Don't be so easy. I'm not saying start a fight, but stick up for yourself within reason, and this is definitely within reason.

Sao Paulo prices are outrageous. Girls seem to want more to come to your apartment than sex at the club. I exchanged $200 and it was gone after 2 girls. Other countries that's definitely 3 or 4. Africa that's probably 4 threesome LOL. El centro colombia10 girls. The most reasonable priced is the low level spas and even they out price the norm in other countries. Scandallo I met quite a few girls from Salvador Bahia. They said nice beaches. Beautiful black girls. My question if I am allowed LOL. What states in Brazil you can travel to where you can get sex under $50. If they the women can travel to get more money, I wouldn't mind doing the same to pay less money LOL.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2994085]I would have simply let the security escort me out. Or talked with the manager. [/QUOTE]Stand your ground and don't pay. Worst case scenario you'll be asked to leave but I doubt it since you're a tourist who got bottle service. And if they tell you to leave then you will leave with 1000 still in your pocket.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2994131] What states in Brazil you can travel to where you can get sex under $50. [/QUOTE]For an hour, Rio Grande do Sul and maybe Rio but I am not certain of the price nowadays. There is basically nothing in Salvador. LOL.