[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1530078]How far was the drive one way?[/QUOTE]From Santiago to La Vega about 45 minutes.
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[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1530078]How far was the drive one way?[/QUOTE]From Santiago to La Vega about 45 minutes.
Spend my morning a Black beards chica draining my love juice ahaha.
$50 taxi ride to Sosua and check into my hotel at Terra Linda. Spend the afternoon browsing shops and looking for non monger activities. Stumbled onto a place that had the most beautiful server. I decided right away that this is the woman I'm going to marry. Total non pro. I spent hours trying to close that deal. Trying.
Out walking around I was stopped by two workers (separately) that offered services for dos mil. I give the WTF and they quickly change to 1500.
Later at night I wondered into a spot on the main drag called D'Latin. This place kinda puts me in the mind of del rey in san jose. I hadn't been keeping up with the boards and didn't know its been there a year. It was atleast 200 girls in and out of there during the night. Plenty of lookers. Most asked for 2000-2500. I mami, too mucho and they right away lower by 500dop. The super stunners were really proud of themselves and wouldn't budge from 3500dop. I saw guys approach but it didn't appear any were willing to seal the deal at 3500.
Spent time drinking, talking and dancing with plenty of girls. Finally just picked one to take care of me for an hour before I slept.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;1530018]So how old is an older guy anyways?[/QUOTE]But I was talking to a dude I know at the beach yesterday. He kept saying in conversation, he was a old dude (blah blah blah ). The thing is, he is only 53. My friend that had his cologne stolen was 71. I would consider him an older dude, more than the other guy who is only 53. But depending on who the principals are, the 53 yr old could be considered an older dude if one is relating / comparing him to someone much younger than him.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1530022]It's just my opinion. Didn't mean to get your panties in a bunch.
My opinion is based on 37 years of observation and experience throughout 40+ countries. I've seen way more youngsters than us older farts take a serious plunge for the working girls, especially in SEA. 27 years in the military allowed me to learn by others' mistakes.
Us old fucks no longer think with the little head, at least in the cases I have seen. I'm a people watcher and I've seen and experienced quite a bit in my lifetime, thus, my opinion.
The one older dude you mentioned was perhaps new to the hobby? That happens as well.[/QUOTE]You will be pleased to know, you did no such thing Tom. Remember, I only think in one head. I can't process what you read from me in my head. You feel something I don't.
I'm reading your explanation , and what I'm reading confirms that you and I don't completely disagree with each other. And you didn't even have to buttress your opinion by telling me about 37 yrs of observation and experience. Your one statement NOW said it all."You have seen way more youngsters than older farts take a serious plunge for the working girls etc etc." Thats a perspective I can apply.
I don't have a problem with that statement. In fact, I can relate to that as well from my own observations and experiences. So there are three things you could take into consideration here which illustrates what I was conveying to you. One, you don't completely disagree with me like you assumed. Two, your new statement is not a fallacious conclusion / generalization like your initial statement. And Third, when you claimed you disagreed, you left me puzzled and with the task of trying to apply a statement that can't support itself, because there were no reasons there to draw from.
Now Tom don't take this as anybodies panties being in a bunch. What I'm saying can be construed as passing on a little wisdom. An older guy should be or could appreciate that without charging it to panties being in a bunch. But it also has been said, one can't teach an old dog new tricks. I have never fully adopted that saying when applied to people. Not every old dude is stubborn and unwilling to accept new information. BTW, my buddy was new to mongering in Sosua, the DR. Him being older did not help him in those incidents. And like I said earlier, there is no telling what other mistakes or errors in judgement he made when he was with any chicas.
One last question Tom. In all of your observations and experience, have you seen any younger dudes that did have a fucking clue? I mean any? You know where I'm going with this, dont you?
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1530078]How far was the drive one way?[/QUOTE]It was about 35 minutes. It was Saturday night, about 7pm. There was virtually no congestion or heavy traffic on Route 1 leaving Santiago. When there is traffic / congestion you can add anywhere from 10 to 20 minutes to that time. It also depends on where in Santiago you are starting from. We were quite close to the monument, so it was a straight shot on the highway.
She must be an amazing fuck LOL.
[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1529921]You missed the entire purpose of the video. Apparently there ARE some guys that think "he is going to elevate a woman to a life of virtue and hence decides to send money". If you have hung around ISG for any length of time you can't help but come across some of these (horror) stories (like the guy who married a well-known pro (Daniela) and had his wedding in Classicos).
Your assessment of the video is not in alignment with the (overwhelmingly positive) comments left by guys who have watched the video.
Photos courtesy of [b]Orgasmico[/b]:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2227-Sosua-Reports&p=1274614&viewfull=1#post1274614[/url]
[b]Video Model Daniela:[/b]
[url]http://youtu.be/kNo2wp71moo[/url]
I don't have the link to the [b]suicide letter[/b] One monger sent her, LOL. I think this was something only us old heads were aware of and discussed behind the scenes.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1530045]No surprise at all Wrx. I went out with a girl in Santiago before and when it came time to take her home she did not know how to get to her house. After so much time I got fed up and pulled over and flagged down a taxi and gave her 300 pesos to get home. Total airhead.
Driving isn't a problem. When I first met my girl I drove her back to Higuey from Santo Domingo. I didn't have shit else to do and I always wanted to see Higuey. I ended up spending the night at her crib and with her family treating me like a king the rest is history.[/QUOTE]This woman has an aunt that lives in Santiago, but as far as knowing her way around. Street names, turns to take? She was clueless. Earlier before we got to the Supermercado she actually pointed to where she catches the bus. But after we left the store I wasnt sure of getting my bearings straight. Plus she had groceries, and I thought it would be better for her if I drove her. Ideally, I would have preferred her taking the bus, so I could easily steer towards going home. However, we had enjoyed each others company up to that point, so it wasnt a difficult decision to go against my preference to drop her off at the bus.
[QUOTE=Bliadun;1530212]She must be an amazing fuck LOL.[/QUOTE]She was at the beach yesterday, hanging around#64. She looked like she put on some weight. In fact, it's possible she may be pregnant again because I saw a little pouch in front. What I notice though, when she is at the beach she looks Plain Jane. But when she heads out to Rumba, she makes a 180 degree transformation. The pants are tight, the heels are sexy, make up and hair are all in place.
[QUOTE=SavePros321;1529799]Good report bro. Although I'm surprised you had the balls to be driving at night! I've rode in a cab from Blackbeard's to Sousa once and that road seemed very treacherous.[/QUOTE]I do not think it is a good idea to drive the route from Santiago to Puerto Plata at night. It is very dangerous. There are not any or enough reflectors on the road or guard rails IMO. And definitely lacking in lights along the route. You got motos and cars on the road with you, no headlights and / or no taillights. People and animals walking on the side of the road, crossing the road. Major potholes, flood basins all over the place. In the day it is better, but at night it's worse and not a good idea. For me the trip between PP and Sosua is a welcome relief after going through Santiago to PP. When it comes to taking a taxi from STI to Sosua at night, I dont know how enough guys take that risk? Especially with a potentially Presidente induced and overly tired taxi driver?
[QUOTE]I think that is key. You have an apartment, so that is a game changer. More privacy, a couch to sit on (and not a wooden stool like at Terra Linda) , a stove, etc. I could not bee cooped up in a hotel room for a week in Sosua. The area surrounding the strip is so small that everyone (the hustlers, change guys, and of course the chicas) know your business. They know what day you arrived, which chica (s) you have banged, where you go to eat, etc. Plus, if you are staying at a place like New Garden, you've got all the guys hanging around outside their rooms hawking every chica that you bring through there.
The long short of it is that you've got an apartment, rental car, and established outside (of Sosua) connections. I would not be bored with those options. But I would be with seeing the same group of chicas day in and day out, dealing with the same hustlers day in and day out, eating the same restaurant or hotel food, and being confined to one block (the strip).[/QUOTE]Understood too bro. But even before having an apartment I was never bored. I had movies downloaded on my external harddrive to watch on TV,laptop or ipad. I walked around a lot to learn the area and for exercise. I rented cars if I wanted to explore other places. I went to Cabarete, even to Blackbeards for lunch, and search for apartments. I went to a restaurant on the mountain on the way to Moca. Did that based on a recommendation from a guy I met on the beach. Drove east to Las Terrenas,Samana. Drove the same route to get to SD. So, I never allowed myself to be confined to one block, the strip or my hotel.
As far as my established connections outside of Sosua, I basically put in the effort to get them. The time spent in Sosua I took the time to establish friendships and bonds with other guys and especially expats. Information I later used to get to where I am today. All of that effort made my time in Sosua and the DR more enjoyable, productive and a learning growing experience. So I wished more guys would consider these things before they suggest to others that one can only tolerate Sosua for a few days or a week concentrating mostly on the strip and dealing with chicas. Sosua or vacationing in the DR can be more rewarding or fullfilling if one were to put more effort into it. After all, it's one of the best places in the world as far as CCCC. (cost, convenience, climate and of course chicas ). All the things I did before having an apartment.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1530203]In all of your observations and experience, have you seen any younger dudes that did have a fucking clue?[/QUOTE]Sure, I saw a few in my time. Judging by your trip reports, I would say you have a clue.
"Sometimes when some guys get older they just arent as sharp as they once was."
That was the statement I was responding to and I disagreed with that comment. And then you disagreed to my comment; so be it.
I refuse to fill up the "Sosua Reports" thread with agreements with no ending, thus, YOU WIN!
Keep up the trip reports, I enjoy reading them.
Before arriving here last week I spent about three weeks beforehand chatting with a 26 year old who lives in Puerto Plata on the dating site. She has a six year old daughter and works in a pizza parlor six days a week and makes approximately 2,200 Pesos a week. We seemed to be able to communicate well in writing and I proposed a sleepover at my hotel upon meeting if we both felt inclined to do so. I met her at the Taxi stand in Sosua last week and when she showed up she was wearing high heels, dress pants / blouse, Christin Dior sun-glasses, a Gucci handbag, earrings, rings, necklaces, etc. All a bunch of phony stuff. It was though she was coming to meet Bill Gates! She was also wearing one of those knitted caps a lot of these girls wear here to protect their hair.
Before taking her to the Hotel we walked into town and stopped at Baileys to have some beverages and talk. I wanted to size this one up before proceeding further. She already knew what would be on the agenda in the room and that she would be receiving some money. She was attractive enough but I had some difficulty communicating with her verbally. I hadn't experienced anything quite this difficult with the three other dating site girls I'm seeing and it was a struggle to understand her let alone her understanding me. I had something similar to this with another one of the girls but got beyond it. I told her that I didn't want any misunderstandings if she came to the room and that she could leave at anytime if she felt uncomfortable and that I would give her a weeks pay for the night. I was concerned about being able to communicate with this one but thought what the hell, she might turn out to be a wild nympho which would be fine with me. When we got to the room she didn't want to take off that goofy hat of hers which she finally did. She had beautiful hair that I wanted to look at which was the truth. One thing led to another in the room, the clothes came off and she was a great kisser which she initiated, however the sex wasn't bad but wasn't off the charts either. We had dinner in the room and spent six hours together and where really struggling to communicate. Something came up about maybe she should go, etc. And I decided to cut my losses and told her I was really tired and that if she wanted to leave she could. While walking her to the Taxi stand she asked me why I wasn't content with her. I told her it basically was a communication issue. She appreciated me being honest with her and we parted on a friendly basis. I subsequently received some E-mails from her and she said she was disappointed that she wouldn't be spending any more time with me. I explained to her that if I was going to spend time with anyone we would need to be able to communicate if not verbally then non-verbally. She told me in one E-mail that she had never met anyone like this before and it was all new to her. I told her that there was nothing wrong with her and that the problem was on my end regarding the language. She said she would never try meeting someone again like this and I encouraged her to try to meet someone who understands more Spanish than me and to try to learn some English. She appreciated this and thanked me for being so kind and understanding with all the E-mails, etc. This is one very honest and sincere woman. What a breath of fresh air and I do feel sad for her. Oh well, tonight I have one of my dating site girls from my last trip coming over for a sleepover. I had some difficulty communicating with this one as well at first but after hitting it off sexually we have been able to communicate just fine.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;1530100]I'm still experimenting with these Haitians and won't be out on the Strip the next couple of nights as I have some Dominican Dating Site girls coming over for sleepovers and I eat these girls pussies![/QUOTE]I should have known if you'll attack a big wave you 'll eat a little pussy. Mr Gogo almost had me rationalizing the tongue roulette game. LOL
Surfer 500, reading your report made me think about my own on-line internet dating exploits. I haven't been back to the DR for over 2 years, coming back though hopefully in a couple of weeks. In the meantime I have accumulated around 70 phone numbers of some pretty gorgeous ladies from Dominican cupid, Badoo etc. However I am a bit dubious as to their motives to meet me and give me their numbers so easily, as I have never straight out asked them for sex or anything so direct. On top of that I am myself ambiguous as to my own motives, ie if one who was gorgeous etc really ONLY wanted a serious boyfriend etc, then I would take that seriously. But who to trust? It is a difficult thing to negotiate, and after having been to the DR twice, and as a guy in his mid 40's who has mongered all over the world and speaks pretty good spanish, I still do not really understand this country or it's people.
Anyway, I found a solution to this problem, not something I am exactly proud of. I set up a fake account on Badoo, using a couple of photo's of a random reasonably good looking guy I found online, and asked many of the same women I liked from my own correspondence (still following?) more upfront questions, to see their response, such as would you be interested to have make love / have sex with me, what present would you like for this etc. One girl said she wanted a Samsung Galaxy. When I said I would prefer to give her cash she asked for 1500 pesos! That is one cheap Samsung Galaxy! Some girls I thought were 'Good' girls gave me a price for sex in 10 seconds, others that I suspected were the 'Easy lays', refused my proposals and said they were not interested and were looking for a boyfriend / serious relationship etc. Hardly any were offended.
So now my head will be clearer when I phone these ladies, I know which ones I can shag for cash, and those who may be potential girlfriends. It's not something I've ever done before. I am usually too honest for my own good, but it has been a worthwhile exercise. So now, instead of worrying that I may say the wrong thing online and not get a chicks phone number, I am now more confident and direct, and usually get their numbers. I don't waste time having long internet conversations with them either. A couple of chicks I REALLY want to shag though, have given the 'fake' me their numbers and given a price for sex, but not replied at all to the 'real' me. So not sure what I will do for them, maybe phone them up and say the 'Fake' me gave me their number etc, so not sure how that will work out!
[QUOTE=Coupe66;1530484]So now my head will be clearer when I phone these ladies, I know which ones I can shag for cash, and those who may be potential girlfriends. It's not something I've ever done before. I am usually too honest for my own good, but it has been a worthwhile exercise. So now, instead of worrying that I may say the wrong thing online and not get a chicks phone number, I am now more confident and direct, and usually get their numbers. I don't waste time having long internet conversations with them either. A couple of chicks I REALLY want to shag though, have given the 'fake' me their numbers and given a price for sex, but not replied at all to the 'real' me. So not sure what I will do for them, maybe phone them up and say the 'Fake' me gave me their number etc, so not sure how that will work out![/QUOTE]The flip side is that the person you are chatting with may also be a fake to begin with. Can't tell you how many times I have run into this on sites like Dominican Cupid. The profiles with one photo of the chica are usually the easiest (fakes) to spot.
What I sometimes do is ask them for their Whatsapp number, then add them to my whatsapp and lie in wait. What I am looking for is what kind of photos come across her whatsapp profile. Chicas who are active on whatsapp usually change their photos every few days. Recently I have run across chicas whose whatsapp photos were different than what they presented on Dominican Cupid. And of course, no photo (in their whatsapp profile) , no chat.
The only real way to tell if the person you are chatting with is actually the person in the photos is to get them on webcam via Skype or something. But since most chicas do not have webcams...
Gotta be real careful with this online stuff. You can end up divulging too much info (when you are arriving, where you are staying, where to meet up with you at, your Dominican cell number) inadvertently. Just think if you tell a (fake) chica too meet up with you on the Malecon. 5 different people who now know what you look like could have passed by profiling you while you are standing there waiting for the (fake) "chica from the online photos" to show up.
[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1530492]The flip side is that the person you are chatting with may also be a fake to begin with. Can't tell you how many times I have run into this on sites like Dominican Cupid. The profiles with one photo of the chica are usually the easiest (fakes) to spot.
What I sometimes do is ask them for their Whatsapp number, then add them to my whatsapp and lie in wait. What I am looking for is what kind of photos come across her whatsapp profile. Chicas who are active on whatsapp usually change their photos every few days. Recently I have run across chicas whose whatsapp photos were differnt than what they presented on Dominican Cupid. And of course, no photo (in their whatsapp profile) , no chat.
The only real way to tell if the person you are chatting with is actually the person in the photos is to get them on webcam via Skype or something. But since most chicas do not have webcams.[/QUOTE]I appreciate your advice and see your point to an extent. Many have given me their facebook pages though, where I've seen load of photo's of them, their families and lives etc. Believe it or not I don't have whatsapp on my phone, many of them have given me their whatsapp number, which is also their phone number too I guess? Anyway, whats the worst that can happen? I will meet a chick in a bar, who isn't who they said they were, and I'll leave. I certainly won't arrange to meet them at my place on a first date! But I won't be deceiving anyone. Anybody I arrange to meet, I'll do through my real profile and my photo etc, the purpose of the fake account was just to ask them some screening questions and not to worry about the replies I got, as I didn't 'burn' any potential action that way, if they didn't like my questions. I now know their real objectives better too. I'm also pretty good at knowing real and fake photo's and profiles, and I don't tend to go for the more barbie types, who are more prone to have fakes anyway. If something looks too good to be true, it usually is!