Angeles City

Hi all,

After reading all those post lately, it suddenly feeling cold in my little brother and like being pour cold water for my sexcitement in the plan forthcoming trip to AC.

Bars girls only ST, robbery, anti forefinger, scam etc etc. Wow! This giving me second thought specially initial plan to stay at Lewis grand hotel but hearing you guys rob by trike driver, dangerous Walking At night, Christ good lord, this should not be a good way to visit AC?

Can anyone outhere give me a more persuasive for me to push thru my idea of goon AC or I just stay in Manila and look for freelancer I LAC, at least if the girl decided to ST instead of agree LT then she got the ST Value only.

Reading all recent post giving me second thought and my trip is on the end of this month, a week after next week.

Have a bad experience in China before and feeling be phobia on all this specially now a days duterte is so anti foreigner!

Cheers,

MD.

[QUOTE=MachoDik;1938197]Hi all,

After reading all those post lately, it suddenly feeling cold in my little brother and like being pour cold water for my sexcitement in the plan forthcoming trip to AC.

Bars girls only ST, robbery, anti forefinger, scam etc etc. Wow! This giving me second thought specially initial plan to stay at Lewis grand hotel but hearing you guys rob by trike driver, dangerous Walking At night, Christ good lord, this should not be a good way to visit AC?

Can anyone outhere give me a more persuasive for me to push thru my idea of goon AC [/QUOTE]Bro, you have to go get your own experience. You can not go by what others say. You can only use it as a loose guide. When I go to a new place I look to ISG to find out where the women are, what place to stay that is guest friendly, and a general ball park on prices. I know that I am going to go pick the girls I like, negotiate my own price (which is 9 times out of 10 lower than what someone reported), and go make my own experience. So I don't put weight on somebody else's experience on the quality, whether a chick sucked his dick, or whether some chick turned LT into ST. Most of that shit is Your Mileage May Vary. I have been to AC at least 10 times and have never had the complaints that some people report. Never got robbed or scammed, never had a girl leave early, never had a complaint about quality.

My only complaint about AC is that it is boring during the day time. There is only so much bowling, shooting pool, or movies at Shoe Mart Mall that I can do. There is only so much walking back and forth between Margarita Station and Kokomos that I can do.

In the Dominican Republic thread there is a big thing of people saying not to drive there. Many people say it is too dangerous and scary and if you get into an accident you will go to jail. I have been driving there for years and have my own experience. I have even totalled a rental car there. The police were actually helpful; I did not face jail. All that happened was the tow truck came to get me and the car, took us back to the rental car place, and they gave me another car. The insurance on my credit card paid for the car. So all the scary stuff that people post was nothing close to my first hand experience.

Go to AC and get your own experience.

Channeling Orwell and Dickens, I was down and out in AC. Previously I had the best of times and now I was having the worst of times. Then three incidents happened which completely changed my outlook. AC has the ability to turn on the charm when you least expect it. I will detail the three positive experiences in separate reports.

After all of my travelling and pounding, I was genuinely tired and felt like a legitimate massage. So I found Hanna and Grace Massage parlour on a side street off Fields Ave. Just look for Manson Drugstore and wander down 100 m. This place just looked sleezy and a MILF dragged me in. I stripped off and she proceeded to give me an excellent massage. Then about 40 minutes into the massage, before the flip, she started playing with my balls from behind. I kindly told her stop as I didn't want to cum. I told her that I was going to barfine a young chica and needed to save my load for boom-boom later. She then said "why don't you boom-boom me? As I was thinking about it, her co-worker, another MILF, just came into the cubicle, grabbed my cock and said she would blow me and I could then fuck her colleague. I told them both I didn't want do it in the shop. First MILF then said, " no problem sir, we come to your hotel". How could I refuse such an offer? Where am I going to get a chance like this?

So we agree the price, they lock up the shop and we wait for my hotel car to come and pick us all up. Car arrives and me plus two MILFs bundle in. Driver greets us as sir, ma'am, ma'am. We arrive at hotel and me with two MILFs in tow go upto my room. No one bats an eyelid as I guess they've all scene crazier things before. The entire situation was just comical.

We all showered, plenty of DFK, and MILF 2 gave me an excellent BBBJ while MILF 1 was kissing me. Then on with the condom and I pounded MILF 1 while MILF 2 kissed me. I said I want to shoot on their tits. "No problem sir". We then cleaned up, got dressed and I got the driver to drop them off on Fields. All up damage was 1,000 tip to each MILF plus 300 for the massage fee.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;1938235]We all showered, plenty of DFK, and MILF 2 gave me an excellent BBBJ while MILF 1 was kissing me. Then on with the condom and I pounded MILF 1 while MILF 2 kissed me. I said I want to shoot on their tits. "No problem sir". We then cleaned up, got dressed and I got the driver to drop them off on Fields. All up damage was 1,000 tip to each MILF plus 300 for the massage fee.[/QUOTE]That is what I am talking about ED. Great story. Just go with an open mind and some fun (and cheap) shit is bound to fall into you lap. Big difference between the experience you have going into the situation as you did or going in with tunnel vision that you have to find someone who meets a narrow set of criteria that must agree to do x, y, and z during the session.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1938215]Bro, you have to go get your own experience. You can not go by what others say. You can only use it as a loose guide. When I go to a new place I look to ISG to find out where the women are, what place to stay that is guest friendly, and a general ball park on prices. I know that I am going to go pick the girls I like, negotiate my own price (which is 9 times out of 10 lower than what someone reported), and go make my own experience. So I don't put weight on somebody else's experience on the quality, whether a chick sucked his dick, or whether some chick turned LT into ST. Most of that shit is Your Mileage May Vary. I have been to AC at least 10 times and have never had the complaints that some people report. Never got robbed or scammed, never had a girl leave early, never had a complaint about quality. [/QUOTE]MD,

I strongly second Mr. E's post.

I've been to AC 5 times in a little under 2 years and have mostly had purely positive experiences.

In general, having your own experience is priceless.

I wouldn't come in thinking every moment can be planned, would also not worry too much about things going sour, just come in knowing pretty much where to go and give it a shot.

I personally love AC and really enjoy coming back every time. I enjoy hanging around fields better than perimeter, but I guess you should try each and decide for yourself.

Come in feeling you'll have a blast and you probably will.

D

While I agree that all mongers should try out a new destination with an open and positive outlook there are times where I would do my research and weigh up what by far the majority are saying as to what to expect.

Over the last pages here we have post after post claiming, Angeles is dangerous, I was robbed, I was cheated, the girls are mostly fat, the girls are mostly ugly, the better looking girls won't barfine, the better looking girl want drinks only, the better looking girls act like princesses, the girls will only go with Koreans, the lower tier girls that have no other choice but to barfine promise long time only to leave after a very short time, the prices have gone through the roof, airport security are setting up visitors, police are setting up visitors, trike drivers have turned to out and out scamming, the food is the worst in the world, the hotels are very expensive for the quality, etc.

When most are reporting and feeling like this about a destination then something is just not right, count back over the last 30 pages and many long time Angeles visitors have said they will not return again, why is this if everything is just fine as some claim.

I fully agree that if one does not walk alone in Angeles, accepts that the pretty girls just do not barfine and if they do they will choose a Korean, as a westerner one has to lower his choice in order to find a girl that will barfine, guys are having to throw big money around in order to attract the pretty girls attention in the bars then Angeles can be fun, but and there always is a but very nearby destinations do not have most of the problems listed above and at similar or better prices all in a safe environment, most western punter have voted with their feet and do not visit Angeles, some insist on sticking their head in the sand and accepting what Angeles has become.

Sorry to be brutal guys but the truth sometimes is not pleasant, hopefully the guys that own bars in Angeles will grow some balls and stand up to their girls, start to cut out the bullshit the girls are pulling in the bars / out on barfine, that the new president will execute enough scum that is on every street in the Phills and return to a country where citizens and tourists can venture out without fear, I live in hope.

They (Manager class) are taught as young kids to be frugal.

Hence they want everything guaranteed before they spend a dime. Not possible, hence their 'frustration'.

As they say, where I come from: "You will never never know, until you go, go, go".

Me, early 1970's no Internet, no intel = lots of adventure and fun finding out. Best to stay in the basement if you want everything worked out before you step on the plane.

"Nothing ventured, nothing gained".

The most unusual experiences happen when you least expect them in AC. I was walking back from Walking Street one night dateless and desperate. I had been bar hopping in many of the clubs and became more and more disillusioned. I don't know if it was pussy fatigue or just sick of being scammed by the girls. They all looked so disinterested doing the AC zombie shuffle on stage. I was also sick of the fat, ugly waitresses hanging around me for an LD or barfine which was never going to happen in a million years.

So I was just walking along near Phillies Sports Bar feeling sorry for myself and about to cross the road to get a trike, when this massage girl grabbed me and handed me her card. "Sir, I'm Reema and I do massage and everything in your room now. I do deep throat blowjob, fucking and you cum in my mouth. Up to you on tip. " Well, with an introduction like that, what did I have to lose?

Reema was a bit on the curvy side, like a real woman. Some would say plump. But after dining on nothing but skin and bone for the past five days, a bit of meat on the bones was just what I needed. Reema told her handler she was off with me and we got in a trike and headed for my room.

After 5 minutes, we dispensed with the massage and got down to business. She gave me the best BBBJ I have ever had in my entire life and I've been doing P4 P for more than 30 years now. This girl knows how to suck cock. We then fucked in multiple positions. Reema is a few inches taller than the standard pinay, so I was able to do doggie properly. I'm 6'2" so you can imagine the difficulty I'd been having previously because of the height difference. What she did next completely shocked and amused me. After I came in the condom, she took it and drank the contents straight from the bag. There was some spillage on the sheets which she just licked off.

After this we cleaned up and just lay in bed. She texted her handler. I presume to let her know she was going to be late. She then proceeded to tell me about her love life and sought my counsel. She has four live marriage offers. I didn't believe it, but she showed me all of the correspondence, photo albums and pleas begging her to marry.

I hope I don't bore you with these details, so only keep reading if you're interested.

Suitor 1 is a famous Australian surgeon with a big profile. I know this guy, so it was strange seeing him pop up on Reema's messages. He has visited her twice now in AC and is waiting for her to say yes. His sisters have interviewed Reema by Skype and have given their blessing. He has a hot 22 year old son from his first marriage whom Reema has a crush on (you know where this is going). Surgeon wants to go to the province to meet her brother who is a fisherman. Reema doesn't really love him, but wants to have a baby with him and be a rich surgeon's wife. I don't think Reema quite knows how big a fish she has actually caught.

Suitor 2 is an African American welder from California. He has met her in AC and they had a two week holiday in Palawan. She actually loves this guy, but he's not rich. Reema is okay with that and feels that true love is more important. He has proposed and wants to marry her now.

Suitor 3 is an Indian jewellery shop owner who is seriously rich. He wants to marry her and take her to live in Bangalore.

Suitor 4 is a Singaporean restaurant owner.

None of these poor suckers knows what she really does for a living. She met them all on FC dating site. All four are sending her money each month. I asked her why she is still working if she's getting so much money sent to her. She replied that she loves sex and making new friends. This is one of the few working girls who has said she loves her job.

I told her to marry the surgeon, have his baby and then look for other amusement on the side!

Please PM me if you want Reema's number.

I see the latest news is saying Duterte has been voted "The Worlds most popular President". Bad news for all the Trump lovers in Angeles as it is rumoured Roddy may have been born in Hawaii. Hahaha love US politics from afar.

I've just come back from AC and all this talk of Koreans being the top dogs in AC and Westerners being relegated to the fat, ugly middle-aged waitresses is highly exaggerated and unnecessary.

In my whole trip covering AC, Manila and Mindoro, I did not meet one single girl who liked Koreans, and I interviewed dozens of them. Many said they would not go with a Korean. They universally agreed that Koreans are rude kuripots, don't by LDs, don't tip and were rough / perverted in bed and horrible company. Several girls said that Koreans occasionally assaulted the girls and it then became a police matter. One girl said that Koreans would only tip them if they stayed until 3. 00 pm the next day. If they left at 12.00 noon, then there was no tip.

In every bar I went to, I was able to attract the attention of virtually any girl I wanted, be it at Atlantis or at the Drill Shack on the Perimeter. I did not bar fine every girl I interviewed, but all were prepared to come with me. All it cost me was a 250 PHP LD and a 50 PHP tip for the waitress to get to meet them. I did not see any westerner without company. I did however see groups of Koreans drinking full strength SMBs, but without an LD in sight. Groups of girls would gather around them, but no matter how long they hovered, kuripot K was not going to buy an LD.

There are thousands of girls in AC and you don't need to bar-fine the best looking spotlight girl at the biggest bar anyway. She is never going to perform wether you are a Westerner or Korean. So stop worrying about the Koreans dominating the scene. It's all a myth.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;1938976]I've just come back from AC and all this talk of Koreans being the top dogs in AC and Westerners being relegated to the fat, ugly middle-aged waitresses is highly exaggerated and unnecessary.

In my whole trip covering AC, Manila and Mindoro, I did not meet one single girl who liked Koreans, and I interviewed dozens of them. Many said they would not go with a Korean. They universally agreed that Koreans are rude kuripots, don't by LDs, don't tip and were rough / perverted in bed and horrible company. Several girls said that Koreans occasionally assaulted the girls and it then became a police matter. One girl said that Koreans would only tip them if they stayed until 3. 00 pm the next day. If they left at 12.00 noon, then there was no tip..[/QUOTE]ED,

You claim you can barfine any hottie or that any hottie will sit with you from Atlantis then I ask you, what happened then.

You clearly state in your trip report that you went with 3 girls, the first 2 were well over the hill milfs and a fat massage girl. No mention of any slim good looking girls at all.

As for your claims of any Atlantis girl would sit with you for a 250 peso drink then ill take that with a pinch of salt as the drinks in Atlantis are not 250 pesos and never were.

Let me let you into a few secrets ED, prostitutes tell their punters what they want to hear, if they are with a westerner then westerners are no 1 and everyone else is wicked, tight, a pervert etc.

When they are with a Korean then all westerners are all of the above and the Koreans are kind, generous and no1.

Best advice is don't listen to prostitutes, period. Truth is not one of their strong points.

To say Koreans are not sitting with girls and not buying drinks and spending large amounts of money enjoying themselves and making it rain is just not true in the slightest IMHO.

A simple you tube search or Koreans in Angeles will bring up many many videos of Koreans making it rain and throwing money around like its going out of fashion, also they show most punters in angeles bars are asians and they are the ones sitting with the top girls with tables full of girl drinks.

Not sure why you are not seeing this if you have genuinely been in Angeles as you claim.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1926153]Janboi has not paid the $20 subscription and thus most probably is a 'Manager' by default. Get the drift? As you say, the answers to his queries are already on the website, just need a bit of reading as you suggest. Next they will be asking us to fuck the girls for them, LOL.[/QUOTE]Good comment Sxxxx, he has asked lots of questions but he has also been to the country 5 times (in a relationship he said) but knows nothing about the country. He restarted posting earlier this year. The last time was 2010 in Mexico (only 2 FRs). Manager for sure and trying to show how lazy he is.

His latest 'contribution' in the AC thread is full of silliness IMHO with a 600 pesos / day room or a 4 k pesos a month apartment. Very impressive. He has been told to RTFF and contribute before.

As some of said before me he should RTFF and stop wasting others times and more importantly intel.

Thank you to the forum readers who have sent me advice and notes of encouragement. I agree that its best not to plan anything in AC. What could be a bad experience today might turn out to be brilliant tomorrow. Even after four visits, I'm still learning new things. It's very easy to become overwhelmed and to think that you must pack so much into 3-4 days. One reader mentioned that AC is all not about going into the biggest bar and fining the hottest chick. If that's the attitude you go in with, then only disappointment will result. It's with this in mind that I decided to give the Perimeter bars another go. I recall Dg8787 is a big fan of these low key bars and I enjoyed his reports about threesomes and then ordering up Jollibee to the room.

So after my bad experience with a Perimeter girl who did a runner, I went into Candy Bar for a look at 12.30 pm (they open at noon). I could not believe what I saw. There were 8 stunning girls on stage, all who were absolutely gorgeous. These girls would have made the grade at Burgos or EDSA, no doubt about it. One of them immediately smiled at me, so I said "come on down baby". Her name was Regerma, which I later learnt was a combination of her father's and mother's names. She was such a sweety and I couldn't keep my eyes or hands off her. I bought her an LD and she agreed be my girlfriend until 10.00 pm. So I paid the bar fine of 1,600 PHP (yes, that is not a typo) and took her with me. We hung out all day, went to SM Clark, Starbucks, saw a movie and did what normal dating couples do. It was excellent. We then went back to my hotel at 6. 00 pm and got down to business. Wow, the long lead up ensured a fabulous time. She was just simply awesome. I was really tired by 8. 00 pm, so I gave her a generous tip and showed her out. As soon as she got home, she texted me a nice thank you note.

So that's how I finished up my AC trip. Would I return. Yes please!

I agree with ED on Candy Bar.

I was in AC 14 days and every day, yes every day, I visited Candy Bar. It only disappointed me once.

The line up is normally good, sometimes very good, yet guys on this Forum criticize the place. What are they looking for, fat jumbo's or skinny skeletons?

I referred to Candy Bar as my "Fav bar" in my reports, cause I did not want too much competition whilst in AC. Now that I have left Phils you can all rush to Candy Bar, hope you find what I found there, every day, except once, when the good ones had already been barfined. And I agree that the girls there could easily get a job in Walking St, and as I said in one of my Fav bar reports the girls told me, they make more money working in a bar that charges P1600 bar fine, than they would in a place charging P3000 BF. Single LD's bring a commission of only P50 for the girl. Takes a lot of them to add up to P700 , Candy' girls share of BF. Funny, one girl had 8 sisters and two brothers. She was the bread winner for the family, LOL. Think she earned P150 a day salary = keen to be barfined. 19 and no kids.

Call before 3 pm when the good ones are already BF'd. 12 noon to 2 pm 1st shift and supposedly eye candy for K's. Not so, in my experience. Very inconsistent, can be hot ones there at 12 noon, or hot ones arrive and start on the 2 pm shift. Varies.

OK, go ahead and criticise the talent at Candy Bar. I don't mind, LOL.

I've got my doubts about stories girls make so much with LD's they can't be bothered BF-ing. I never got a knock back for a BF, ever. And I could easily be the girls great grandfather! Nicely dressed, not obese, smiley fun loving, willing to spend = bingo, every time.

Wow, 8 absolute stunning girls in candy bar that could quiet easily work on Burgos st Manila.

I was at the opening of candy bar some 8-9 years ago, I have very often popped my head in there over the years with only last weekend the last time.

It would be fair to say that over my many many visits I have never seen a stunning girl in candy bar ever, have never even seen a girl pretty enough to buy a drink for there.

Just goes to show that what is one mans absolute stunner might be most other guys no thank you even for free.

Anyways glad you had a great time there, keep happy.