Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;1876472]You may be right, but sometime Thai ladies tip with their money when they think that the foreigner should have. It's one of these unspoken statements.

I also think the acting was because of a change of heart. In Thai culture an elaborate lie is better than a flat refusal. Of course that is especially ingrained in women of the trade.[/QUOTE]Sure, anything is possible. I can't claim to know much about Thai culture and how girls from Ibar may or may not perceive things. I have not been in Thailand in over a decade. So I really don't know. One could speculate on a number of reasons. I thought 100 Baht for a motorcycle taxi from Ibar to Central FEstival during daylight hours was a decent amount.

[QUOTE=Haven123;1876524] I thought 100 Baht for a motorcycle taxi from Ibar to Central FEstival during daylight hours was a decent amount.[/QUOTE]When you are going together with another person they charge double. At least that is what I have been paying. So 100 sounds about right. That is what they charged me last night when we left the restaurant and I live a little closer.

[QUOTE=Sammon;1876511]1. She wants to make sure you are not a lier. Do not know what you promised her.

2. To make sure if you can be a repeat customer or boyfriend or western union guy.

3. To see if it is a local sim or your real number from your country.[/QUOTE]None of these 3.

Pattaya Trip Report, Take 2 Day 1.

Ok, back in Pattaya for the final 5 days of my vacation that ends Thursday. The hotel ordered me a taxi to take me to HKT for a 3:10 PM departure on Bangkok airways to UTP. Cost for the taxi was 700. (The charge down from the airport to the hotel they arranged was 750 baht.) The airplane left about 10 minutes early and the flight to UPT was without problem, with an early arrival. I debated once again on whether to get to a private taxi or ride the van. The taxi was 1000 baht and the van / bus / whatever was 250. I was not in any hurry so I went with the van again. We departed at 5:03 and first made it in to the south of Pattaya for the first drop off just over an hour later. As we moved up into Pattaya the traffic got very bad. When we hit 2nd road it was totally backed up. I was finally deposited in front of my hotel, this time the Dynasty Inn, at 6:48. So, total trip time was 1:45. A taxi would have been maybe 20 minutes faster I estimate.

I headed out to WS around 9 PM or so. I first went to the New Yorker, I think it is called, for a lighter meal of fried rice. I need to purge out the McDonald's and Burger King junk. I-Bar is right there so I did a walk through first. Still plenty of seating and no sign of Pam. I was very tired from little sleep and did not want to stay out late. After eating, I headed down to Bliss to see Fon. No plan to BF her, no more BFing Fon, but to say Hello,. But, of course, she was not there. Fired already, night off or out with a client, I don't know where Fon was. My soda water was 90 baht, which included a 20% discount. This was a reasonable fee, I suppose, given they have a 1500 BF.

I then headed to Sugar Baby to see Bee. I did not see her, but when another girl came over to talk I asked about her, and when I mentioned she was the one with the big boobies she knew who I was talking about. She went and got her. (I had forgotten her number, which is 141.) That girl then remembered me, and pointed out to where I had been sitting with Bee on our previous 2 occasions. Bee was in the short skirt they wear, with her top opened up and breasts exposed. She was happy to see me, and she looked ravishing, but no conversation flowed. We talked a little, but I was hesitant to offer and LD and she didn't ask for one. It was time for her to dance and she left, and a short while later I snuck out It is not so much that I don't want to BF her, and I suppose I will go back and at least buy her a drink. I am still physically attracted her, but I have been there and done that twice, and the second time wasn't better than the first, so what is the point anymore? There are some other beautiful women to be with, though she is special.

Between Bliss and Sugar Baby, Sugar Baby was the winner. Bliss had more girls and, thus, more good looking girls. But I am respectful, and would not BF from Bliss with Fon there, nor from SB with Bee there. But Bliss I certainly recommend, but that BF can get you. Well, for that matter, the BF at both places is 1500. There are some lookers at Light House and their BF is just 700.

Went back down to I-Bar around 10:45 and it was still slow. Wnt to Red. Now I need to admit that this bar where they have singers and is not Red Car. I had mistaken this in the past, so in my past reports where I said Red Car I really meant Red. I am such a dummy. But I planted my butt at Red, had a real drink and should not have ordered those fries. Those steroids from Dr. Bangla (see my Phuket report on my contact dermatitis that caused me to go to that clinic) made me ravenous. They tasted fine, but the catsup was combined with mayo in same small container. I still don't understand mayo on fries. I tried to ask for just a container of catsup, but it was so freaking loud the waiter couldn't hear me. When the second act came on at about 10:30 they turned the music up louder. It was insanely loud. I put in my nerdy ear plugs, which brought the sound level form bleeding to merely splitting. I soon had to leave. These band members are going to have some tinnitus problems in a few more years. Only one band member I saw and any ear protection. After that, I finally figured out the place down the walk with the car in the way was THE Red Car, the disco. The sound coming down that little alley was ear bleeding so I didn't bother with it. I was tired and ready to go sleep. But, oh, I can go see Bell at the Light House first!

So I went there, not sure if I would just say Hi or if I might finally BF her. She saw me before I found her and she came right over. My soda water was 110 and her soft lady drinks were 150. Bell is bubbly and full of energy, always smiling, super tight, hard body but a little hard to understand. She wants me to BF her, saying I can do it today or tomorrow, but comments that I have been promising to BF her in the past and I never do. She plays with the boys a bit, but I know that if I see her tonight I will be low-energy and certainly unable to release with her just one night after my last (dern condoms), so I say I will come back tomorrow. She is a little disappointed, but more guys are coming in now so she might luck out anyway. The BF at Light House is just 700, which is good.

I leave and walk back to the hotel. I see no SWers until Soi 13, where there were several, but I just wanted to sleep. And I was feeling like a rat about lying to my Thai GF, who thinks I am leaving for home Sunday. Sigh. This girl is a keeper, and I am out cheating on her. She wanted to fly down the BKK to meet me at the airport to give me something she made for me. Sigh. Well, I have never made any commitments to her or ever used the L word, but if she knew what I was doing she would be devastated. Well, the time will come when I have to make a decision (or she will make it for me! She is supposed to be trying to get a visa, and this is a sore spot with me for reasons I won't delve in to, but if she gets it, then I will have to make a commitment. If she fails, then I don't know. I don't really want to marry her, and least not yet and not in Thailand. I could bring her over on a marriage visa, but I am not sure if after one visit I will be ready for that, or if I can get a second such visa if I later decide to go through with it. No way I want to live in Thailand, and I am not sure if she would consent to live in America, given her strong family ties. Sigh. Too many questions with no answers yet, so I keep mongering in the meantime.

But I digress. So, I go home empty, feeling like a cad to an extent, but not overly disappointed that I am alone. That Dr. Bangla fee set me back at little, but Sunday I hope to score on Soi 6, then I will have to decide about going to Bell for that long promised romp, or seeing someone else. I am a bit curious how it will be with Bell. She has an awesomely tight body, but how will that translate in bed? We have been friends of short, but will that translate to a near GFE? I have my doubts. Oh, I did ask her what her fee was. She said it would be up to me. Good answer. But I don't know.

[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;1876049]Writing these reports is becoming a refreshing time-killer, [/QUOTE]Yes, for me too. I get up, go eat breakfast and walk around, then come back and write about the prior nights experiences. Then I venture down to Soi 6, then come back and maybe do some more walking around, maybe get a bite, then back to the hotel to write of the Soi 6 (or wherever) adventure. Then a nap perhaps, and catching up on messages and the news, it is about time to head to WS, or even to search for an early evening SW.

So yes, I enjoy it, and it serves as a way to permanently document my adventures that I can delete from my computer.

[QUOTE=FLHawk;1876567]it serves as a way to permanently document my adventures.[/QUOTE]I agree. I keep a journal of my adventures while travelling and I try to keep it up to date on a daily basis while the memories of the previous night remain vivid and fresh. Then after my trip when I am back home and have plenty of time, I go over my journal entries to edit & correct the grammar for posting purposes. In effect I re-live my good times when I go over them and make the final edit before posting.

I have found that without keeping a journal, many of my girls and many pleasurable nights sadly become vague and distant in my mind. Even the best nights begin to blur in my memory over time. But rereading a journal entry, even years later, brings it all back like it just happened. This is why I write.

Photos are real important as well to preserve those memories in a physical form and to serve as a quality control device. I am not kidding. If a girl still looks good to me 6 months after the night, then I KNOW I did good, but sometimes a photo evokes a "what the hell was I thinking" self response which focuses my attention to what I was thinking and doing right before I selected the "plain" girl. I then tend to choose wiser and not fall into bad decision traps on subsequent trips. Over the years this method has really helped hone my selection process ensuring the selection of pretty damn sexy hot girls every time and thus has greatly improved my game.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1876619]I agree. I keep a journal of my adventures while travelling and I try to keep it up to date ....[/QUOTE]I had beeing doing something similar but I stopped a decade ago or so owing to possible legal trouble down the road. Laws and law enforcement is not getting better by the day for mongers and even if it were possible to have copies of IDs etc, who knows what burden of proof will be imposed 5 years from now. This is made worse by the need of crossing borders with data carriers full of pics. I still have shoe boxes full of (paper) pics from the good old days. I guess I will have to burn them when I move for good.

[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;1876459]Yesterday I brought a young lady to my room and once there she asked for my number, then she rang it. It took me a short while to realize why.

Who can tell the reason? Mr E. And other residents please refrain to say - I'll come up with harder questions for you![/QUOTE]She wanted you to have her phone number in your phone?

AND / OR.

She wanted your phone number in her phone in case something bad happened to her and the authorities would have a record of who she was communicating with?

[QUOTE=XXL;1876635]I still have shoe boxes full of (paper) pics from the good old days. I guess I will have to burn them when I move for good.[/QUOTE]Or scan them and upload them to some anonymous cloud-based picture repository.

[QUOTE=David2;1876641]She wanted your phone number in her phone in case something bad happened to her and the authorities would have a record of who she was communicating with?[/QUOTE]Yes. Only since a recent time Thai SIMs are registered with an ID.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1876530]When you are going together with another person they charge double. At least that is what I have been paying. So 100 sounds about right. That is what they charged me last night when we left the restaurant and I live a little closer.[/QUOTE]That's cause you got the " The Good Looking, Most Interedting Guy in the World " discount!

And, I got the " Old Man Discount ".

Haha!




( think about it ...you'll get it sooner or later )

[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;1876538]None of these 3.[/QUOTE]Yeah, she checked the phone number and said to herself, he's the " Old New Guy " ????

I know him from before. " he's the New Old Guy ".

😜

[QUOTE=Haven123;1876697]Yeah, she checked the phone number and said to herself, he's the " Old New Guy " ????
I know him from before. " he's the New Old Guy ".[/QUOTE]Spot on, I had been using that nick also! Then switched because of a lost password or something.

Just back from another night on the prowl. Engaged a slim looker at the Red Car, the sophisticated type with good English and silicone. Semi-friendly at the beginning, she said it was her first time there, whatever! Request 3K, but she was unhappy with my location (did I said that Naklua was OK? And passed a ton of attitude. No deal, actually she quickly turned unpleasant. My loss two drinks, which are quite cheap at RD.

The petite from my first night covers the pillar nearest to the bathrooms, if she could just deliver par to the look of her hotpants, legs and lips I would take her out 9 times out of 10.

Moved to Ibar, UV was doing his thing with Miss Hot Pattaya, drunk girls zonking out, massive young foreigners dragging their 1000 Bt special fare hos. The usual.

Next stop Marine. But I had no much energy left. Doing nothing all the day is fatiguing. Did not wanted to repeat a slim one from yesterday.

Unable to tell myself apart from the other leftovers, wrote off the night and took home Bt 10 of fried dough. Satisfaction guaranteed.

[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;1876813]Spot on, I had been using that nick also! Then switched because of a lost password or something.

Just back from another night on the prowl. [/QUOTE]Both you guys are something else! Hats off! As for me, after the previous night's epic fail, I actually did not sleep well until after almost 4 pm. Woke up at about 1230 and did not feel like going out. Even though I was hungry and had only had yogurt, fruits water, strawberry milk and Doritos all day to clean out my system. LOL.

Super hungry now. And headed now to Central Festival at 1020 am. And from there to Sanctuary of Truth (part of the reason I did not want to go out last night) and will return to visit the Soi 6, 7 and other Soi bars which I have never seen (the other reason I wanted to be able to do day time activities rather than sleep all day after going to bed at 9 am for 3 straight nights).

Also, been researching the Tiger Zoo in Sriracha and will definitely check that out later this week, when I need a rest day. LOL.

Won't be drinking though until I head towards Walking Street around 1230 tonight. Will surely visit IBar and spend some extended time 808, and maybe Mixx too tonight, as suggested by Mr ENT.

BTW, for those newbies like me, Soi Diana has some decent accomdations with a good location. Such as LK Renaissance, Areca Lodge and a couple others (just seeing the view from the outside and many bars and LK Metro nearby). Whitehouse Condotel (mentioned by some here looked quite poor from the street and I'm glad I never gave that much time. Bay View Hotel looks great as well and anyone wanting a hotel may want to consider that. However, no Pattaya beach view. So, I think I made the right decision with View Talay 6, beach view balcony and really nice apt and service from DanceWatchers. Having Central Festival mall right next door also a huge plus, and being on 2nd road, of course, and around the corner from the Hilton.

Maybe I'll see you both (Old New Guy and Uncle V) around later. In Walking Street? Won't be checking here until late afternoon.

Ciao and cheers.

[QUOTE=Haven123;1876385]2. Re throwing up, I just did not think she was that drunk. And if indeed she was to a point where she would need to throw up, it would be a huge turn off for me and it would have resulted in zero action on my part in bed. So, given that, maybe if she was indeed going to throw up, her leaving was probably best for both of us. I myself have only thrown up thrice in the last 11 years and I sure would not want anyone to be around me for at least 48 hrs after that. I thoroughly detest myself when I do it to myself and I'm very sure I did not have a single drink after that, on each occasion, at least for a week, because after I throw up, just the thought of drinking alcohol is a huge turn off for me. So, how I feel about that is consistent in both instances / or directionally.[/QUOTE]No offense mate, but you are to serious. Those line's show enough.

We all here understand your point, but you line out very strict limit's. Don't overstep those, otherwise I'm out of the game! Right?

Hell, you partying in the nightlife area of Thailand until SUN rises again! What do you expect from a 40 kg girl at this stage of day?

If those written principles are so important to you, why not rebalanced your own approach? 7 am in the morning won't get you a sober girl which is not throwing up. You may find out a better time by yourself.

You may find sober girls at this time, but those won't be very intriguing for the punter's, as they are themselves not very sober at the moment. Old vice versa problem haha.