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[QUOTE=Delbo1;2970816]Actually the exact opposite of what you described look young 32. White slim average build.

One girl I had before kept calling me captain America as she says I look like the actor Chris Evans who plays him in the marvel movies so I can't be that bad.

I do think there are girls in there who foreigners are a no go for them for whatever reason maybe they don't like uncircumcised men. It's the same as when I went to.

Emporium before when they called the girls toward me a couple chose to remained seated. I asked him about that he said whether true or not they are expecting their customer to arrive.

I actually saw a girl screw up her face when an Indonesian guy selected her she resisted to go to him and stood her ground. He was ugly though in classic.

So yea maybe there are girls that think they are too good to go with white men.[/QUOTE]I only had one girl reject me, and that was at the ground floor in Classic, where they are twice as expensive. The one and only time I went there, just to try. Mamasan said it was due to the girl being scared of big dick, and there can not be any doubt that even though otherwise I'm not that big in stature, there must be several other telltale signs indicating John Holmes himself would be embarrassed standing next to me in a dick lineup.

If that was the true reason I do not know of course.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2970821]I only had one girl reject me, and that was at the ground floor in Classic, where they are twice as expensive. The one and only time I went there, just to try. Mamasan said it was due to the girl being scared of big dick, and there can not be any doubt that even though otherwise I'm not that big in stature, there must be several other telltale signs indicating John Holmes himself would be embarrassed standing next to me in a dick lineup.

If that was the true reason I do not know of course.[/QUOTE]If you think about it there will be a hierarchy in there who.

Are selective about who they will go with. But in our eyes they are all hookers but in their eyes they might think I'm.

Not desperate to go with a bule.

[QUOTE=XXL;2970708]In the old days mamasans often introduced us to "new girls". What they said was "anak baru" which should be translated by "new girl" though a literal translation yields "new kid". "Anak" means kid but is the way Indonesians refer to young people. "Baru" means new. It turned out that every single girl pointed out to us as "anak baru" accepted bareback without any fuss. We concluded "anak baru" (= "new girl") was a code word for "no condom ok" as far as we were concerned.[/QUOTE]I've been hearing "gadis baru" or "cewak baru" I agree that all the ones that are supposedly. "baru" are easier to get BBFS from even now.

-Gabacho.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2970639]Indo girls can be dangerous per GG (and only him). Thinks they may have a knife so be careful. Hehe.

5th floor opens 5 or 6 and best to not go until 6 or 7. You are stupid if you do not go up and check out that floor since it is soooo close and will cost you a whopping 33 cents to do so. There are more girls on the other side of the stage. SO girls, stage, girls. SO many guys I know never figure that out. Read my old posts earlier this year. Maybe Ci-Ci was on floor 3 because floor 5 has closed.

FYI Ci-Ci is a good F for me. I only have one shot a day and I like to be sure I share amongst all the girls I can. ChaCha has lied several times about the "new" girl thing and it pisses me off and twice I have informed her of this.

I do not think it is because they remember me. I have been there several times but only here and there and they never did that before. All happened in my 3 visits I took within the same 9 days. They always put their hand out for the money but the 2 mami only handed the room number and condom and walked off. That is why I asked the third one one when asked for the money and she said either before or after. So I wanted to know how Classic was and she asked for the money but said I could pay after. One of you newbies go find out if YOU can pay after so we know.[/QUOTE]Opens at 6 pm*.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2970639]5th floor opens 5 or 6 and best to not go until 6 or 7. You are stupid if you do not go up and check out that floor[/QUOTE]Somewhat guilty as charged.

I left Classic Terminal 2 at 8 pm. I asked the doorman if there was something upstairs. He said yes, on the 5th floor. As I started to walk up the escalator, he said to take the elevator. I don't think you can get to Terminal 5 if you take the escalator. If you select "5" (European 5th floor / American 6th floor) on the elevator, it takes you to Terminal 5.

In the atrium where Classic Terminal 2 is located at, the escalators are turned off after Terminal 2. The lights are off above Terminal 2. Terminal 5 is located above the atrium. There is no sign for Terminal 5 on the elevator on the ground floor. You just have to know about it.

I like the layout of Terminal 5; it's more modern than Terminal 2. 2 huge LED screens. Same system as Classic Terminal 2. 5 K cover; same prices for girls and beers. Live band.

There was about 100 something number of girls. Same as Terminal 2. Less girls today at Terminal 2.

I initially thought the sexy lady dancers were better than Classic 2. There were more of them; better outfits; and some of them were cuter. There was one or two pretty cute ones. I asked mommie if they were available; she said no.

But fuck that! After they danced, 3 of them surrounded me with a waitress with a tray of shots. They asked me to buy them a shot (probably colored water). I said no. As I took a sip of my beer, 3 of them grab a shot glass, and toasted my beer glass and drank the shot. The waitress asked me to buy the shots. I said no a few times. Then later, other girls came, and started with the handshake routine.

After the initial shock, I just waved them off. I am starting to get a thick skin (which isn't good; I'm getting jaded).

Don't like the lady drink pressure. I was told the lady drinks are 40 K.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2970943]
After the initial shock, I just waved them off. I am starting to get a thick skin (which isn't good; I'm getting jaded).

Don't like the lady drink pressure. I was told the lady drinks are 40 K.[/QUOTE]They now know you are not a sucker. You go there tomorrow and I bet they leave you alone now. Do not get jaded.

They approached me once and then several months later. They will remember you and leave you alone. I asked them why I would buy drinks for girls who do not "F"? Some will I am sure but for a high price that will include an overinflated attitude with horrible service I am sure. Their facial expression scream WITCH!

Classic again today observations:

Took a pretty girl to room gave me the impression she is new seemed a bit innocent and not hardened like some are.

Took a load up her no problem.

Tipped 100 she was very happy.

We make our way back to the floor and before she even reached her seat her mamasan led her to a man sitting nearby at a table so they went to the room again. So 2nd time for her.

Wait for this. , later I took another girl and when I was coming back out the room she was going in again with another customer so 3 times including me in the short space of time. Well I took 3 too I was trying to keep up but 3 is very floppy and a struggle.

Last girl I took was more mature and more shapely curvy but in the bedroom it was disappointing.

Still not recognising any of the girls I've had out of classic from previous trips I don't think they are there anymore.

Tried contacting a couple I had their WhatsApp but it's clear you are talking to a handler abd they want you to transfer money online so it stopped there.

Saw an Indian guy sitting same as me and he asked for a girl to come sit with him damn she was so small and a huge rack lucky him.

A lot of the girls slouch back so hard to see if they have decent tits. I don't know how he spotted her.

Checked out Lokasari before heading back to hotel spent a bit of time there waking around with a friendly mamasan accompanied me was not pushy in the slightest quite helpful in fact. There were some holed up in FF hotel it was full of cigarette smoke. A lot of the handlers are wonky eyes. Group of young girls outside KFC everyone of them smoking in a group. Saw that there are groups sporadically placed around Lokasari mamasan took.

Me to each one. I didn't bother this time as it was too late and also I wasn't reloaded after classic and the girls seemed really rough and tough.

She was ok with me leaving and going home. I've experienced pushy ones there before.

Terminal 5 and Travel's girls apply high pressure on guys to buy these fake shots. They would come by with waiters carrying trays of 100 shots. Girls would beg you to buy them 1 shot. I kept telling them no, but relented under duress. If you buy them 1 they would ask for more, 20 or 50 shots, for them and their friends. Soon, all kinds of girls surround you pressuring for shots. The girls can knock down 10 or 20 very quickly. Some even knock them down before you give approval. I tasted the shots; they are just weak tea.

Each shot costs 40 or 50 K are. The bills can get steep quickly. Immediately after knocking down the shots, the girls just scoot away. You never get any mileage with their companies. This is the worst bar robberies in the world. I got pissed off being ripped off so cold and ruthlessly. I would shoo away any girl asking for shots in bars and won't take their girls to bed.

Girls' drinks in Classic 2 are the same prices as guys. Girls will sit with you, drink, talk, feel up a long time. This set up is much more fair. I had good times sitting and drinking with girls in the club and hot sessions with them in bed.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2970943] But fuck that! After they danced, 3 of them surrounded me with a waitress with a tray of shots. They asked me to buy them a shot (probably colored water). I said no. As I took a sip of my beer, 3 of them grab a shot glass, and toasted my beer glass and drank the shot. The waitress asked me to buy the shots. I said no a few times. Then later, other girls came, and started with the handshake routine.

After the initial shock, I just waved them off. I am starting to get a thick skin (which isn't good; I'm getting jaded).

Don't like the lady drink pressure. I was told the lady drinks are 40 K.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2970821]I only had one girl reject me, and that was at the ground floor in Classic, where they are twice as expensive. The one and only time I went there, just to try. Mamasan said it was due to the girl being scared of big dick, and there can not be any doubt that even though otherwise I'm not that big in stature, there must be several other telltale signs indicating John Holmes himself would be embarrassed standing next to me in a dick lineup.

If that was the true reason I do not know of course.[/QUOTE]In Japan and Korea the girls are told westerners are full of STIs and have big dicks that will ruin them. 1 girl was so scared but the manager really tried to help me out. He kept asking the size of my chilli. I decided to pick another cute girl but she also had the same fear but was a little more adventurous and said she would try but if it was too big she would leave. Here I am sitting around a group of guys drinking talking about the size of my chilli. We had a laugh and the guys apologized for the embarrassing conversation. The adventurous girl turned out great and I think If I went back I could have had my pick.

I just checked with them on Instagram.

They are still open during Ramadan 12 noon to 2 AM.

Going to be there on a business trip during Ramadan.

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Maybe I should store a picture of my regular sized dick on my phone, and show it to the manager or the girl in a situation like that?

Finally, some really useful dick pick.

Can any kind soul advise how to open the ISG site in Jakarta, sorry for being such a noob, I am no tech guy. How does one activate it through VPN and how does it work and the settings on the apple phone.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2970943]Somewhat guilty as charged.

I left Classic Terminal 2 at 8 pm. I asked the doorman if there was something upstairs. He said yes, on the 5th floor. As I started to walk up the escalator, he said to take the elevator. I don't think you can get to Terminal 5 if you take the escalator. If you select "5" (European 5th floor / American 6th floor) on the elevator, it takes you to Terminal 5.

In the atrium where Classic Terminal 2 is located at, the escalators are turned off after Terminal 2. The lights are off above Terminal 2. Terminal 5 is located above the atrium. There is no sign for Terminal 5 on the elevator on the ground floor. You just have to know about it.

I like the layout of Terminal 5; it's more modern than Terminal 2. 2 huge LED screens. Same system as Classic Terminal 2. 5 K cover; same prices for girls and beers. Live band.

There was about 100 something number of girls. Same as Terminal 2. Less girls today at Terminal 2.

I initially thought the sexy lady dancers were better than Classic 2. There were more of them; better outfits; and some of them were cuter. There was one or two pretty cute ones. I asked mommie if they were available; she said no.

But fuck that! After they danced, 3 of them surrounded me with a waitress with a tray of shots. They asked me to buy them a shot (probably colored water). I said no. As I took a sip of my beer, 3 of them grab a shot glass, and toasted my beer glass and drank the shot. The waitress asked me to buy the shots. I said no a few times. Then later, other girls came, and started with the handshake routine.

After the initial shock, I just waved them off. I am starting to get a thick skin (which isn't good; I'm getting jaded).

Don't like the lady drink pressure. I was told the lady drinks are 40 K.[/QUOTE]I was on ground floor of classic and I wanted to take a dancer to a room. Mommy told 2. 4 mil or there abouts. Her body was so hot I almost went through with it. Later on someone on this board mentioned he actually did pay the money but the action in the bedroom was kind of meh. I will spend 2. 4 if there are higher odds that the service will be really good and multiple shots are part of the deal. At this point I can't imagine service from any woman at classic will be worth anymore than the 365 K standard fee.

- I went to CJs at 10 PM. 260 K cover, which gives you a drink from a limited list. Did they raise the cover (from 200 K), or was it just because it was Christmas? It was empty at 10 pm. The band started to play around 10:30 pm. Bintang drafts are 120 K.

- A few girls started to show up around that time. Above average and nicely dressed, but nothing special. I observed guys come in with girls, and get bottle service. Not sure if the girls were working, or if they were real dates. CJs is in a 5 star hotel.

- I observed 4 girls walk in, but they went to the top and sat at the couches with their backs turned; so I couldn't see how cute they were. Then the waiter brings 2 older guys, and the guys sit between them. I see the waiters greet unaccompanied girls. So it's obvious girls are available, even tough there is a list of rules in front, in which one of them states "no prostitution".

- I left around 11:30 pm. It still wasn't that crowded. Never asked the prices, since I'm not interested in spending all that money when there's better venues around. Does it get better later on the night?

- I went to Malio aound midnight. In the front, there is the Malio Spa; I was told it closes at 1 am. Then behind it is the Malio Club. I was told it closes at 3 am. It is a pseudo topless bar. The girls dance on stage with see thru tops. Nothing special about the girls. You can see the same quality at Classic. Maybe the best girls were already taken. Cover is 150 or 155 K.

- Anker can (no Bintang) is around 66 or 67 K.

- I was told the ladydrink is 66 K.

- Four girls and a waitress with a tray of shots approached and stood around me. I grabbed one and said I will buy her one ladydrink. Then the waitress asked if I would like to buy all the girls a drink. I said no, just her. The waitress said 4 ladydrinks. I said no, just one. The girl, who I was grabbing, said 2 was the minimum. I said no, just one. Then they all left.

- Was I in the wrong? I probably would have eventually bought her 4, if she behaved correctly. I would have much preferred if each ladydrink was priced at 132 K, rather then having a 2 drink minimum. Was that just a semi-scam on her part? Or is that the normal mode of operation at the Malio Club?