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I don't think that anything is bad in Angeles because of the Koreans. There are still good chances to find a nice girl to have fun. (Even learning Korean is not the end of the world.) But it isn't that easy any more obviously.
So it's time to ask for alternatives.
If you like to have sex with young attractive girls for an affordable price in a more or less safe environment, where would you advice to go to?
There are many beautiful girls working at the Perimeter bars, particularly at Candy Bar. Given these girls could walk into any of the big bars on Walking Street where the bar fines are almost double, I asked many of them why they stayed at the Perimeter. Here's what they said:
1. Many have good friends at the Perimeter bar and enjoyed working with them. Often they were introduced by a friend or distant relative from their own village from the provinces and they have a sense of loyalty to them
2. The girls enjoy the fact they have a more 'normal' life in that they go home at 10.00 pm and get a proper nights' sleep. They very rarely do LT beyond this time and only with customers they like or if they are taken on excursions for 2-3 days
3. The girls hate dancing on stage with high heels. If they are bar fined at 2. 00 pm, they can then escape having to dance for the rest of the day. In fact, being on their feet all day in super high heels is what they hated most about the job
4. As the bars are smaller with fewer girls, there was a lot less competition and they routinely picked up more bar fines in a month than many of their sisters on Walking Street. Also, as the bar fines were less, punters were more likely to spend money at the bar without hesitation
5. As the bar fines were much, much lower, there was a chance the punter would tip them more after good service. This was certainly true in my case as I didn't hesitate to 'top up' her bar fine to the full amount I would have paid on Walking Street. She does not have to share the tip with the bar, so she can be easily ahead of the Walking Street girl
6. The girls enjoyed being taken out during the day for lunch / dinner, the mall for window shopping or to just hang out with the customer at the pool. There was less emphasis on sex during the day
7. Many of the girls were quick to recommend a friend at the same bar for a threesome. "I lick her and she licks me. And I not hide in the CR while you boom-boom my friend". Although I'm not sure of the uptake, this up-selling could certainly improve the earnings of the girls without much effort
Some of these girls are more sensible, sharp and commercially astute than we give them credit for. I got the impression that their earnings for the month at the Perimeter were more than many of their counterparts on Walking Street. I just hope they save their money and are able to return to a normal life.
QUOTE=Engine Driver: There are many beautiful girls working at the Perimeter bars.
Picked up a nice one at Touch of (CL) ass, a slight resemblance to young Sophia Loren with my beer goggles on. She was a true champ spending two nights with me, rocking my world, and then followed me to Manila for a third night there. I don't remember what I paid but it was way less than the 3 K the top tier ones get on Walking Street. Then I met this tiny 32 Kg! Spinner with big Bee cup knockers on a 32 inch bust and spent two nights with her (second night was no bar fine from Club Asia). Then I saw her Saturday at the bikini contest where she was a finalist. These two yum yums were rounded out by my regulars on the roster so you guys that complain about AC, Koreans, etc. , its all bullshit to me! It is what you make it! For extracurricular fun go to the American Legion post on Sundays (cold, cheap beer and good cheap food) and you can watch football with some great guys and / or old rocker wannabe dudes like me will wail it on guitar with some other amateur rock / country / folk musicians on their covered stage in the back. The Orchid Inn, my preferred hotel in AC, is also a good place to watch NFL games. They will air any of them at your request, even at 1 AM! Next report will be in the Subic thread so as not to upset the thread nazis.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1939838]Some guys are susceptible to Pretty Woman Syndrome. SNIP
Observant guys who spend a lot of time among Filipinos will eventually realize that even legally married Filipino men allow their wives to go out and fuck foreigners for money and to con them out of house and lot if possible. Smart guys learn to avoid getting emotionally involved with Filipinos, leave the country permanently, or learn to accept that [B]the local pussy is community property.[/B] [/QUOTE]Spot on, sir. Its not always this way, but the country seems filled with provincial girls who fall into this category. They pinoy boyfriend / husband may (or may not) be cognizant of what's going on. But often he is, and he is not discerning as long as the girl is bringing home the bacon (or the Empirador). Several of my regulars fall into this category, and its been this way with them for some years now. There is a boyfriend / hubby and several children waiting at home for her to come back from her 3-day trip out of town with some pasalubongs (money stupidly spent on cakes and alcohol) and cash.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1941138]Spot on, sir. Its not always this way, but the country seems filled with provincial girls who fall into this category. They pinoy boyfriend / husband may (or may not) be cognizant of what's going on. But often he is, and he is not discerning as long as the girl is bringing home the bacon (or the Empirador). Several of my regulars fall into this category, and its been this way with them for some years now. There is a boyfriend / hubby and several children waiting at home for her to come back from her 3-day trip out of town with some pasalubongs (money stupidly spent on cakes and alcohol) and cash.[/QUOTE]Ironic isn't it that every Filipino expat that one meets abroad recommends going to the province to find a so-called good provincial girl like Maria Clara? To hear Filipino expats tell it one would think that 100 percent of the bar girls in AC come from what they refer to as liberated areas in big cities like Manila. I don't know if it was different in the days before the rise of the internet and ubiquity of cellphones but those provincial girls are certainly not shy about fucking for pleasure and profit. Many are already sly and cunning vixens before ever crossing the threshold of a bar, so the old belief that they go bad after a couple weeks in the bar needs to be thrown out. Too many foreigners have been fleeced by supposedly innocent province girls with a pinoy boyfriend or husband sleeping in a hammock back in the bamboo shack at the edge of a rice field. According to what the girls say, these pinoys fuck them up to 12 times per day when they are back in the province. Judging from the size of their families, it is most likely true.
Hi All,
Just finalize my booking at Central Park tower resort, this is nearer to field avenur but I want to also go to Perimeter road, although it seems not far but worry of walking there at night and as the cautioned I receieved from the hotel staff, that they don't. Recomend me to walk at night at perimeter road. But after reading here, I think I want to give candy bar a visit, so any brothers can give me more insight if the location I choose of my hotel is right? The hotel staff say that their hotel is located right at the center of the entertaiment district. By the way, how far is the walking streeet from my said hotel?
Mix of confusion and excitement on this upcoming trip.
The hotel also can arrange the transfer from my hotel in Manila to Angeles at Php 2700, is this advisable or I take the Bus at phippine rabbit to dau station?
Sorry, my first visit and thus full of confusion indeed. Need your advises here.
Cheers,
MD.
[QUOTE=MachoDik;1941198]Hi All,
Just finalize my booking at Central Park tower resort, this is nearer to field avenur but I want to also go to Perimeter road, although it seems not far but worry of walking there at night and as the cautioned I receieved from the hotel staff, that they don't. Recomend me to walk at night at perimeter road.
The hotel also can arrange the transfer from my hotel in Manila to Angeles at Php 2700, is this advisable or I take the Bus at phippine rabbit to dau station?
Cheers,
MD.[/QUOTE]Under no circumstances should you walk from your hotel to the Perimeter bars. It is just too dangerous. I would suggest you get the hotel car to drop you off or get a trike for 100 PHP. Please don't scrimp on transportation costs. There have been muggings and even shootings on the Perimeter Road. The road is also very busy, so you could easily get hit by a bike, trike, jeep or car when you try to walk.
If this is your first time, the airport transfer service is a good option and 2700 PHP is the correct price. The driver will meet you and take you to your hotel. It will take between 2-4 hours depending on Manila traffic.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;1941211]Under no circumstances should you walk from your hotel to the Perimeter bars. It is just too dangerous. I would suggest you get the hotel car to drop you off or get a trike for 100 PHP. Please don't scrimp on transportation costs. There have been muggings and even shootings on the Perimeter Road. The road is also very busy, so you could easily get hit by a bike, trike, jeep or car when you try to walk.
If this is your first time, the airport transfer service is a good option and 2700 PHP is the correct price. The driver will meet you and take you to your hotel. It will take between 2-4 hours depending on Manila traffic.[/QUOTE]Thanks Ed for the quick reply. I don't. See any reason of savings some bucks against safety, definitely PHp 100 for a safe trip is nothing but what about on the return to the hotel, I wonder the trike I take will wait for me or should I called the hotel to send another one for pick up then? I hesistate to flag down any trike or taxi after hearing such a lot of sotries about robbery.
Shooting in Perimeter road? What? This happened? My my Good Lord!
I been to Bangkok and no problem on the peace and order there, been in NEP so many times and bringing back bar dancer for over night and never have any issues with them. Philippines seems to be a lot more different from Thailand. I wish this first time mongering there will be able to let me make a good report then.
Just hook up with fews DIA girls and some of them looks cute quote me straight php 6000 for the night and some play a little game, I wonder if this will be safe to meet them as we did not know if they have some other intentions than just meetign and make some side lines money then.
Cheers,
MD.
I propose that a new forum be created called NapaSlapper's AC Forum. Anybody want to second this motion?
[QUOTE=MachoDik;1941221]I don't. See any reason of savings some bucks against safety, definitely PHp 100 for a safe trip is nothing but what about on the return to the hotel, I wonder the trike I take will wait for me or should I called the hotel to send another one for pick up then? I hesitate to flag down any trike or taxi after hearing such a lot of sotries about robbery.
I been to Bangkok and no problem on the peace and order there, been in NEP so many times and bringing back bar dancer for over night and never have any issues with them. Philippines seems to be a lot more different from Thailand. I wish this first time mongering there will be able to let me make a good report then.
Cheers,
MD.[/QUOTE]1. Get a copy of Wayne's AC Map. Google it.
2. Most Perimeter Road Bars are primarily afternoon bars. Technically I believe Perimeter Road begins at the Jeepney Terminal or Checkpoint Charlie. Therefore Pony Tails and ABC Hotel are on Perimeter Road. There is no danger walking from Fields to ABC or Lewis Grand. I have done so at midnight alone and with girls and never encountered a problem. During the day, again, there is no problem walking from say the Lewis to the Candy Bar area although it is hot and if you are walking more than 3 or 4 blocks in this heat you will be sweaty by the time you reach your destination which is not a good idea if your are planning on picking up a girl, so my advice is take the hotel shuttle, if available, or a friendly trike to Perimeter especially if you are going out to the Lost in Asia / Clarkton Hotel area. Then when you are with a Perimeter Bar young lady, you will most definitely want to take a trike back to your hotel unless we are talking about a short distance from say Pony Tails to ABC or Touch of Class to the Lewis or something equivalent in distance. So Download Wayne's AC Map and print it out for easy reference until you get the hang of things which will only take a day or two once you are in AC.
3. Always keep your eyes and ears open and be aware what's going on around you in your proximate location. There is absolutely no point in talking to the shills or anyone that comes up to you in the street. Be civil, but keep walking. AC and Manila are definitely not as safe as Buddhaland, but they are not particularly dangerous if one exercises some street smarts and does not go off the main drag looking for adventure (trouble). There are trike drivers waiting for customers outside all the bar areas and hotels. They are reliable so there is no need to keep one after he has dropped you off at your 1st Perimeter bar destination. And again, I have never had a problem of any kind walking back to ABC or the Lewis Grand around midnight and there is no problem period in the daytime. Late at night, I usually leave it up to the girl. Some like to walk, some are hungry and want to stop off for some tasty BBQ chicken to take back to the hotel room, and others want to take a trike.
Have a great time in AC. Despite what the doomsayers post, I know you will.
[QUOTE=MachoDik;1941198]Hi All,
The hotel also can arrange the transfer from my hotel in Manila to Angeles at Php 2700, is this advisable or I take the Bus at phippine rabbit to dau station?
MD.[/QUOTE]There is a thread at the bottom of the Philippines Forum page that discusses transportation between Manila Airport and AC. If this is your first time, then I too recommend the hotel service for pick-up. They will meet you in the terminal and have a car waiting for you, vice you waiting 30-60 minutes for a taxi to take you to a bus terminal. But if you are leaving AC for a Hotel in Manila, you should look into taking one of the private busses that go from hotel to hotel as they are a LOT cheaper and do not take much longer. If you become a veteran, then the local bus from station to station is the most economical but may be a pain if you have lots of luggage to cram in a trike.
While you are "below the line" check out the thread on DateInAsia, as well. PHP 6000 is way above asking price. Then you will probably have to wait on her to show up, and who knows what you will actually get (ladyboy, googly-eyed, Jollibee butt and gut? You can probably get the very same girl for 1/3 to 1/2 the price if you find out where she is working.
[QUOTE=MachoDik;1941198]Just finalize my booking at Central Park tower resort, this is nearer to field avenur but I want to also go to Perimeter road, although it seems not far but worry of walking there at night and as the cautioned I receieved from the hotel staff, that they don't. Recomend me to walk at night at perimeter road. But after reading here, I think I want to give candy bar a visit, so any brothers can give me more insight if the location I choose of my hotel is right? The hotel staff say that their hotel is located right at the center of the entertaiment district. By the way, how far is the walking streeet from my said hotel?[/QUOTE]Dude. You are overthinking this shit. I guarantee that when you get there you will try walking to or back from Perimeter. I usually walk there then since I am lazy and drunk after (plus it is dark and you can not see shit) I take a trike back. I would say it is more dangerous to cross Sukhumvit than to walk to Perimeter. And it is not far at all. Plus once you get to the area of Perimeter you will have to walk from bar to bar anyway.
And Central Park is half a block to Walking Street (which is not big at all either).
Before I had ever been to AC I asked my fraternity brother how it was. He described it as being just like Pattaya but 1/50 of the size.
Needed to go from NAIA to AC and back 6 or 7 times this past April, May, Aug and earlier this month. I mostly used the Public buses. Read some mention of the Philippine Rabbit, It may still have that route but you may be waiting a while. Lately would recommend the Five Star or Victory in Pasay City, they seem to make the route most frequently. You need to be specific to the NAIA taxi to each station as they are in the same general area and though technically within walking distance of each other its not such a wise area to be hauling your stuff around. The evening after the Davao bombing it took the taxi 90+ minutes to get from terminal 3 to the Pasay bus terminal, that was the longest short taxi ride of my life.
The cost is P149 so its pretty cheap. If the bus isn't full they look for stragglers along the route to EDSA which slows down the process.
Lately Dau was not been the AC destination to look for exclusively. Also look for a small MARQUEE or MARQUEE MALL sign lower closer to the driver in the window which stops at the newly burgeoning Bus station right off the EDSA in AC near city hall. I have no patience for waiting in terminals and the Marquee bus usually arrived before any bus stopping in Dau so I took it mostly. The trike ride is a little longer than from Dau. They also have a long special Jeep which frequently makes a route from Marquee to Dau via the EDSA and ends up in SM Clark terminal during mall hours if you don't have much gear I took that just once and it cost I think 16 pesos or 20 pesos?
On the way back I think Dau is still the place to catch the bus. The Marquee seems to be a northerly bound stop. Returning to Manila make sure to verify the Bus will go all the way to the Pasay terminal. Twice I was the last person on the bus and we were near Roxas Blvd close to Mall of Asia and they let me out in the middle of the street where it was a 'term for female dog' finding a taxi. Was that allowed? Jeez it was hard to complete that phrase.
The last Pasay to AC bus I took, all the buses were flooding the Marquee terminal which is really built to handle Jeeps and it was a zoo but I managed to find a trike pretty quick luckily. I don't know if this is a temporary situation or if the routes are shifting.
[QUOTE=SaltyPete;1941338]There is a thread at the bottom of the Philippines Forum page that discusses transportation between Manila Airport and AC. If this is your first time, then I too recommend the hotel service for pick-up. They will meet you in the terminal and have a car waiting for you, vice you waiting 30-60 minutes for a taxi to take you to a bus terminal. But if you are leaving AC for a Hotel in Manila, you should look into tak [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1941310]3. Always keep your eyes and ears open and be aware what's going on around you in your proximate location.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1941341]Dude. You are overthinking this shit. [/QUOTE]Spot on. MD, if you have specific questions, please hit me or other board regulars in PM.
Gents, stop feeding the troll. Macho the is probably a nice guy, but look at what he is asking, and look how we are responding. He is a previous phils visitor with a bad history on this board (taking without giving). He asks oodles of questions (and for advices). His last 23 posts going back to March 2015 are phils posts of questions, without much in the way of any solid FR's (some pics) after his visits. Both Pete and Natty's kind response (Always keep your eyes and ears open) are longer than all of Macho's descriptive FR's combined. MD is hitting the minutia, and we are enabling him.
MD: Stop worrying. Go have fun. Report back your highs and lows (hotel details, girlie bar details, girlie details, restaurant experiences, transportation experiences, other experiences, expectations vs reality, etc).
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1941296]I propose that a new forum be created called NapaSlapper's AC Forum. Anybody want to second this motion?[/QUOTE]+1. Good suggestion Natty.