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[QUOTE=GreenBud;2971141]- I went to CJs at 10 PM. 260 K cover, which gives you a drink from a limited list. Did they raise the cover (from 200 K), or was it just because it was Christmas? It was empty at 10 pm. The band started to play around 10:30 pm. Bintang drafts are 120 K.

- A few girls started to show up around that time. Above average and nicely dressed, but nothing special. I observed guys come in with girls, and get bottle service. Not sure if the girls were working, or if they were real dates. CJs is in a 5 star hotel.

- I observed 4 girls walk in, but they went to the top and sat at the couches with their backs turned; so I couldn't see how cute they were. Then the waiter brings 2 older guys, and the guys sit between them. I see the waiters greet unaccompanied girls. So it's obvious girls are available, even tough there is a list of rules in front, in which one of them states "no prostitution".

- I left around 11:30 pm. It still wasn't that crowded. Never asked the prices, since I'm not interested in spending all that money when there's better venues around. Does it get better later on the night?

- I went to Malio aound midnight. In the front, there is the Malio Spa; I was told it closes at 1 am. Then behind it is the Malio Club. I was told it closes at 3 am. It is a pseudo topless bar. The girls dance on stage with see thru tops. Nothing special about the girls. You can see the same quality at Classic. Maybe the best girls were already taken. Cover is 150 or 155 K.

- Anker can (no Bintang) is around 66 or 67 K.

- I was told the ladydrink is 66 K.

- Four girls and a waitress with a tray of shots approached and stood around me. I grabbed one and said I will buy her one ladydrink. Then the waitress asked if I would like to buy all the girls a drink. I said no, just her. The waitress said 4 ladydrinks. I said no, just one. The girl, who I was grabbing, said 2 was the minimum. I said no, just one. Then they all left.

- Was I in the wrong? I probably would have eventually bought her 4, if she behaved correctly. I would have much preferred if each ladydrink was priced at 132 K, rather then having a 2 drink minimum. Was that just a semi-scam on her part? Or is that the normal mode of operation at the Malio Club?[/QUOTE]Right now there is a whole crew of mid 20's women that come to CJ's from Bogor. Sometimes they come in one herd. Sometimes they link up at CJ's and disperse. Some of them are pretty hot. Try to go there when there isn't a band and its a little less active around midnight. Its a buyers market around that time. I scooped a hot one for oevernight for much less than she was asking a few hours earlier around 12:30. I went to BATS one time and a woman there explained to me that woman from BATS don't go to CJ's because they have to compete with younger woman. From my experience CJ'see is mid 20's. Mid 30's. BATs is mid 30's on up. All this is with some exceptions of course. In either place be careful not to waste time on woman who are there to hook a rich foreign husband. They will be all flirty but are angling for a dinner date sometime in the future. In most cases they will not go back to your room regardless of how much game or money you offer.

[QUOTE=Safado70;2971111]Maybe I should store a picture of my regular sized dick on my phone, and show it to the manager or the girl in a situation like that?

Finally, some really useful dick pick.[/QUOTE]Well, all joking aside, from what I understand from most girls, the average western dick is quite a bit bigger than the average asian dick they are used to. Of course, once I'm fucking them there is never any problem, and if they think about it, things are designed so that a whole baby will come out of that hole, but if they've never had sex with a western guy before, they may indeed be a bit dick scared.

Anyway, I'm sure your dick would be too big, but I can send you a pic of mine to use, which should alleviate any and all fears they may have.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2971118]Can any kind soul advise how to open the ISG site in Jakarta, sorry for being such a noob, I am no tech guy. How does one activate it through VPN and how does it work and the settings on the apple phone.[/QUOTE]It's easy and free you download OPERA onto your phone and use that instead of safari if it's iPhone and has a free vpn. You can actually configure the vpn further if needed to by holding vpn.

Tried Lokasari again as I was too late yesterday. I met the same helpful mamasan she called her girls and took over an hour to arrive she kept calling them and kept motioning me to wait. In that time I saw a beauty of a girl from another mamasan turn up I asked to take her mamasan said no WTF said another customer is taking her I said I'm here now have money but she stuck to her guns. I got asked how much I was willing to pay I said 400 she says the girl wants 1 million I said no way I can go to classic. I was next to the girl and gestured me and her 400 she shook her head. Mamasan justifies it by saying previous customer paid 1 million these cunts ruin it by overpaying and overtipping it will end up like Philippines and Thailand. I'm not paying 1 million for Lokasari street girl.

Eventually a girl turns up from the helpful mamasan we all go to FF hotel I gave the 400 to mamasan she counts it out in front of her girl and hands 300 to the girl she leaves the room girl is sending lots of messages instead of getting down to business. Kept asking me how much I paid her mamasan I show 4 fingers she asks me for another 100 I refused she wasn't happy about that I already paid the room 120.

Anyway got down to business wasn't that great. I didn't feel safe in that environment just felt something was off seeing her writing messages before starting it felt like she was wasting time So wanted to leave quickly after I finished she tried to call me back as I left the room but it felt like she was expecting someone. There were a few bystanders in the hallway eyeballing me one was hotel security I eyeballed back.

May as well. The lift couldn't come quick enough by this time she was next to me I was watching the numbers of the lift come up to our Floor I got in the lift with her and exited the place. Saw the mamasans they were asking me for a tip.

So I should mention they overcharged me earlier for 2 cans of coke me and mamasans 30,000 I said that's too expensive. And I also met the famous pipit which she confirmed she's not a mamasan she goes with customers her words. She demanded a tip I said I've used up my money she went off her head and said fuck you fuck you fuck you I said don't speak to me like that I can go to that shop and get you money she said fuck you I get nothing. At this point when I offered to resolve it and still getting insulted there's no point going back.

Long story short expect things not to go smoothly waiting for a long time, changing prices, shady people hanging around, I was there at 6 pm and girls didn't appear until 7:30 pm plenty of Chinese / Japanese / Koreans hanging around waiting for girls to appear so you are up against them. I had friendly and willing girls from there before but the amount of time wasted and the dodgy goings on it's not worth putting yourself in that environment anything can happen.

[QUOTE=Delbo1;2971244] I got asked how much I was willing to pay I said 400 she says the girl wants 1 million I said no way I can go to classic. I was next to the girl and gestured me and her 400 she shook her head. Mamasan justifies it by saying previous customer paid 1 million these cunts ruin it by overpaying and overtipping it will end up like Philippines and Thailand. I'm not paying 1 million for Lokasari street girl.
[/QUOTE]LOL, plenty of people here like to overtip and will continue to do so.

[QUOTE=Delbo1;2971244]Tried Lokasari again as I was too late yesterday. I met the same helpful mamasan she called her girls and took over an hour to arrive she kept calling them and kept motioning me to wait. In that time I saw a beauty of a girl from another mamasan turn up I asked to take her mamasan said no WTF said another customer is taking her I said I'm here now have money but she stuck to her guns. I got asked how much I was willing to pay I said 400 she says the girl wants 1 million I said no way I can go to classic. I was next to the girl and gestured me and her 400 she shook her head. Mamasan justifies it by saying previous customer paid 1 million these cunts ruin it by overpaying and overtipping it will end up like Philippines and Thailand. I'm not paying 1 million for Lokasari street girl.

Eventually a girl turns up from the helpful mamasan we all go to FF hotel I gave the 400 to mamasan she counts it out in front of her girl and hands 300 to the girl she leaves the room girl is sending lots of messages instead of getting down to business. Kept asking me how much I paid her mamasan I show 4 fingers she asks me for another 100 I refused she wasn't happy about that I already paid the room 120.

Anyway got down to business wasn't that great. I didn't feel safe in that environment just felt something was off seeing her writing messages before starting it felt like she was wasting time So wanted to leave quickly after I finished she tried to call me back as I left the room but it felt like she was expecting someone. There were a few bystanders in the hallway eyeballing me one was hotel security I eyeballed back.

May as well. The lift couldn't come quick enough by this time she was next to me I was watching the numbers of the lift come up to our Floor I got in the lift with her and exited the place. Saw the mamasans they were asking me for a tip.

So I should mention they overcharged me earlier for 2 cans of coke me and mamasans 30,000 I said that's too expensive. And I also met the famous pipit which she confirmed she's not a mamasan she goes with customers her words. She demanded a tip I said I've used up my money she went off her head and said fuck you fuck you fuck you I said don't speak to me like that I can go to that shop and get you money she said fuck you I get nothing. At this point when I offered to resolve it and still getting insulted there's no point going back.

Long story short expect things not to go smoothly waiting for a long time, changing prices, shady people hanging around, I was there at 6 pm and girls didn't appear until 7:30 pm plenty of Chinese / Japanese / Koreans hanging around waiting for girls to appear so you are up against them. I had friendly and willing girls from there before but the amount of time wasted and the dodgy goings on it's not worth putting yourself in that environment anything can happen.[/QUOTE]Nice update on the Lokasari scene. And good on ya for sticking to your price. As I've said many times before here, and as you just confirmed, some of these arrogant punters on here who think they're being cute by overpaying and throwing around big tips is the reason prices go up. A Lokasari street girl now asking for 1 M is a prime example of what I was trying to warn people about.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2970993]Terminal 5 and Travel's girls apply high pressure on guys to buy these fake shots. They would come by with waiters carrying trays of 100 shots. Girls would beg you to buy them 1 shot. I kept telling them no, but relented under duress. If you buy them 1 they would ask for more, 20 or 50 shots, for them and their friends. Soon, all kinds of girls surround you pressuring for shots. The girls can knock down 10 or 20 very quickly. Some even knock them down before you give approval. I tasted the shots; they are just weak tea.

Each shot costs 40 or 50 K are. The bills can get steep quickly. Immediately after knocking down the shots, the girls just scoot away. You never get any mileage with their companies. This is the worst bar robberies in the world. I got pissed off being ripped off so cold and ruthlessly. I would shoo away any girl asking for shots in bars and won't take their girls to bed.

Girls' drinks in Classic 2 are the same prices as guys. Girls will sit with you, drink, talk, feel up a long time. This set up is much more fair. I had good times sitting and drinking with girls in the club and hot sessions with them in bed.[/QUOTE]Good warning. Note that Terminal 2 also has these same shot girls I think. The one time I went in the evening on my last stay I too was accosted by such a girl (a "dancer" I guess). She didn't give me the impression she'd scoot away immediately, but she wasn't my type either, and had a hustling vibe to boot, so I didn't bother buying the drink. Think she also said it cost 40,000.

Was in classic again and saw a Japanese / Korean whatever he was bring a bag in and sit at a table nearby me he calls a girl from her seating to meet him no laser he opens his bag and outcomes a cuddly fluffy tiger cub and gives it to her all the girls look so lovingly at that. He had another cuddly toy too it was a panda I think and was showing it to her pretty weird. Saw something similar in Bangkok Nana plaza he gave the girls on stage all sweets from a bag and they all unwrapped the sweets and ate them they.

Looked overjoyed.

I'm Confused if I were to do that I'm Sure they would disappointed as they want the money not a candy sweet or a cuddly toy. Hahah.

Live band playing entry fee 5,000 had a cola exit fee was 33,000 cheapest exit fee so far.

Very very busy at terminal 2 rammed with girls and Asian men customers. Met cha cha she wasn't as pushy as before and wanted to dance and sing in front of me a lot so she must be comfortable with me or her menopause is over Hahaha or possibly it was that busy she didn't need to bother me so much. I still got being brushed last and sulking look when I'm with a girl that's not hers.

1st girl I took huge rack as many do in there she been there a year when we were walking down to the rooms I noticed she walked in front.

Of me got to the room tried the no condom but she wasn't having it. She asked for tip at the end I smiled and said no condom 200 I'm sorry. She looked annoyed and again she walked separate going back up.

Next girl I took was a skinny one she walked hand in hand and seemed comfortable I got what I wanted and tipped her. Worked there 3 month apparently. Walked back out hand in and nice and comfortable.

The ones that knock me back for the condom so far have been the big titted ones.

Saw a couple of familiar faces possibly from this forum if it's you send me a message.

Finally recognised 1 girl I knew from before we made eye contact I showed her my translate we know each other she nodded she looked like she wanted to go with me but just met an Asian man.

At a table the drinks kept coming there was popcorn just so much stuff being bought and dancing together at the table.

Looked like he just wanted company.

I have a feeling most people don't know about this floor. If you want to go to T5, just walk in hotel classic on your right hand pass T1 (the club on the ground floor) straight to the elevators and tell the doorman "lima" (5). Enter the club and it's basically the same system as T2 as we all know.

With that being said I kind of liked the setup in T5, you have only 2 sections of ladies sitting on bench type seating like you see in a stadium which I believe I counted 3 rows and you have spotlights shining on the ladies. Not as many as in T2 but a lot of pretty girls also in T5.

There are a lot of barstool seating for us gents to sit and scope out the talent. I find it much easier because there are only 2 sections to concentrate on, where in T2 you need to keep changing seats to see what talent you have in different sections.

I arrived in T5 around 9 pm, I don't know what time they open but from the previous posts it seem to open around 6 pm? Anyway mammas instantly came to me to present their girls, but for those of us who know how the system works I politely declined their offer and they left me alone and I checked out the place on my own.

Only 2 sections that was easy! I saw a lot of potential, some didn't want to make eye contact with me, maybe shy, scared or I'm ugly I don't know? Others where smiling and holding up (Korean) heart signs I'm not Korean BTW.

I sat down by the first section again, a mamma from T2 I have met on my previous trip a couple of months ago recognized me (she works in T5 now) and came to me and we talked a bit. She lasered called one of her girls to me, cute girl, "new" girl, no baby, good service etc. (don't believe those things anymore) massive rack I would have totally do her.

BUT she didn't give me the vibe that she wanted to be here with me, she could've been shy or because she couldn't speak English or for whatever reason so I send her back to her seat.

Mamma signaled another girl over, cute but I wouldn't have picked her myself, but when she came over she was all bubbly, hugged me and looked happy to be at my presence. She couldn't speak English but we communicated through the translate app. After some questioning and ticking off my boxes, I called mamma over, signed the bill (more on that later) and we went to the room. (Same price as T2).

Eventually I was happy with my pick, she gave me a real GFE, BB everything (probably not my smartest idea but it feels so much better LOL) P.S. I didn't brought up the no condom thing in the interview.

Anyway she gave me good BJ after a while doing different possions I blasted my load in her she looked shocked when that happened but she wasn't bothered for long and she was fine with it.

She gave me a shower, tipped her 100 k, she gave me her WhatsApp I might send her a message and invite her over to my hotel one day.

Tip: I feel the no condom thing should be discussed in the room when you are both naked, when she sees you are clean, well groomed or shaven, smells good etc. Her answer would be yes no problem.

It doesn't work everytime, some girls are firm on the condom rule, but it has worked for me so far. If you both have great chemistry anything is possible.

Another tip, just pay at the end of your session by card it's much easier (maybe don't use your main credit card) but this way you don't have to visit the ATM and deal with a big bundle of cash and small change that often.

I use a debit card (Wise). On your credit / debit card statement it's shows: New CLs for T2 and CLs2 for T5. I only have cash in hand for tipping the girls, waiters or paying exit fee when not selecting a girl.

That's it for now, I have some other reports but that is for next time!

P.S. I have a random thing and I'll probably get some hate for it: what do you guys think about a dress code walking in these type of establishments?

I've seen foreigners maybe some of you ISG members (sorry) but also locals walk in with short and slippers like bums or they are going to a beach's etc. I don't mean you have to wear a 3 piece suit, but is it to much to wear long pants and a nice shirt? Back home you won't be going out to a club with shorts and slippers right?

Or am I the only one?

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[QUOTE=Delbo1;2971370]Was in classic again and saw a Japanese / Korean whatever he was bring a bag in and sit at a table nearby me he calls a girl from her seating to meet him no laser he opens his bag and outcomes a cuddly fluffy tiger cub and gives it to her all the girls look so lovingly at that. He had another cuddly toy too it was a panda I think and was showing it to her pretty weird. Saw something similar in Bangkok Nana plaza he gave the girls on stage all sweets from a bag and they all unwrapped the sweets and ate them they.

Looked overjoyed.

I'm Confused if I were to do that I'm Sure they would disappointed as they want the money not a candy sweet or a cuddly toy. Hahah.[/QUOTE]Maybe he does both or a really good customer. I'm guessing he is a repeat customer. I don't think that reaction will garner much enthusiasm if they never met prior.

[QUOTE=Delbo1;2971370]Was in classic again and saw a Japanese / Korean whatever he was bring a bag in and sit at a table nearby me he calls a girl from her seating to meet him no laser he opens his bag and outcomes a cuddly fluffy tiger cub and gives it to her all the girls look so lovingly at that. He had another cuddly toy too it was a panda I think and was showing it to her pretty weird. Saw something similar in Bangkok Nana plaza he gave the girls on stage all sweets from a bag and they all unwrapped the sweets and ate them they.

Looked overjoyed.

I'm Confused if I were to do that I'm Sure they would disappointed as they want the money not a candy sweet or a cuddly toy. Hahah.[/QUOTE]I was in one of the more popular Gogo Bars on Walking Street (Fields Ave) around 10:30 pm and a somewhat older guy shambles in and sits down by the side of the stage. He's got a huge plastic bag with him and starts pulling out stuffed animals, Santa style, and handing them to the dancers. They gushed over these trinkets and gave "Santa" big hugs. He never paid for a drink or tipped any cash. From what I could see, he didn't even speak to anyone. Just sat there, grinning.

WTF?

[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2971626]I was in one of the more popular Gogo Bars on Walking Street (Fields Ave) around 10:30 pm and a somewhat older guy shambles in and sits down by the side of the stage. He's got a huge plastic bag with him and starts pulling out stuffed animals, Santa style, and handing them to the dancers. They gushed over these trinkets and gave "Santa" big hugs. He never paid for a drink or tipped any cash. From what I could see, he didn't even speak to anyone. Just sat there, grinning.

WTF?[/QUOTE]Just stupid and weird. These girls are not children.

[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2971626]I was in one of the more popular Gogo Bars on Walking Street (Fields Ave) around 10:30 pm and a somewhat older guy shambles in and sits down by the side of the stage. He's got a huge plastic bag with him and starts pulling out stuffed animals, Santa style, and handing them to the dancers. They gushed over these trinkets and gave "Santa" big hugs. He never paid for a drink or tipped any cash. From what I could see, he didn't even speak to anyone. Just sat there, grinning.

WTF?[/QUOTE]Why is this surprising? A lot of these girls are just barely older than 18 from remote villages. Just because they work in a bar, doesn't mean they are not still interested in things other girls that age are interested in.