Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=AdamCki;2997898]Thanks a lor Socrates! Outstanding job. I will be in SP the First week of June a report Will follow, also First week of December.

In your experience is there a month / s when you don't recommend Scandallo or to make It easier when its absolutely most recommended during the year? Of course weather can be a factor?[/QUOTE]June might be a bit slower at Scandallo as it's Brazilian winter. Some of the girls will be traveling.

1st week of December should be normal or rocking as girls want to make that holiday paper.

But SP and Scandallo in particular is so big, that even at its "low", it's incredible.

I recall when my boys and I first visited during the pandemic. There was a 9 pm curfew and the disco and big outdoor terrace wasn't even open. The first impression we had was still WOW! And we are all experienced hobbyist having mongered all over the world. If Scandallo at 30-40% strength was that good. Imagine how it is now at 80%. I say 80%, as colleagues and locals say it was even better pre pandemic.

Thanks a lot for some great reports! Very useful as I will soon travel to Braz for the first time. Will definitely check out Scandallo. How is talent in May? Will try collect numbers.

Have anyone mongered in Santos? Any tips to share from that place?

Very nice beach spot Guaruja-Santos, perfect transportation. There is a metro station in SP Jabaquara that connects the bus terminal.

I haven't mongered there, but when I got to Santos a Sunday morning around 10 am, there was a very broad street with lots of bars and people still in heavy party at 10 am. So debauchery is assured.

The beauty on the beach was interesting. Paulistans arriving at the beach to enjoy a weekend, warm sea, being a winter morning. Brazil.

If anyone interested on my videos / pics of spots and more, feel free to drop me a pm. As you can see I have a solid photo / video archive dating from the early 2000's.

[QUOTE=BusinessTravl;2998471]Have anyone mongered in Santos? Any tips to share from that place?[/QUOTE]

Finally getting around to writing this after a busy month dealing with personal matters. I won't repeat what's already covered extensively on the forums—just sharing some key takeaways as a first-timer.

Accommodations.

I stayed in Moema & Vila Mariana, trying three hotels:

Wyndham Ibirapuera Convention Plaza Hotel.

Mercure São Paulo Moema Times Square.

Mercure São Paulo Grand Plaza Paulista.

All were GF-friendly and well-located, but airport noise in Moema is no joke. Compared to the Wyndham, the Mercure Moema Times Square was the better choice.

Clinicas.

The Palms.

The girl insisted on CBJ (the only one I got all trip), which was odd, but she was hot. Upon arrival, the front desk hands you an iPad to browse available girls—you can pick three for a live presentation. They also have TS options if that's your thing.

Moema Prime / 57 Friends.

Girls are presented in person, but nothing caught my eye, so I didn't session.

Miruna.

You sit on a couch, and each girl introduces herself with a name and a cheek kiss. After the lineup, the receptionist asks who you'd like. Quality was solid.

Clubs.

Casarão.

Enter through the right-side door—bouncer pats you down and checks ID. Inside, present your credit card, get a drink ticket, and proceed into the main area. Spot a girl you like? Smile or wave her over to negotiate. Sessions happen at the adjacent hotel, but you can return for more fun afterward. I took one girl overnight to my hotel for are $700, and she was amazing.

Scandallo Lounge.

Similar setup to Casarão but far more upscale—better ambiance, hotter girls, and higher prices. The big difference? The hotel rooms are inside the building, so everything happens on-site.

Pro Tip: Save Scandallo for the end of your trip. If you go too early, other places might feel underwhelming afterward.

SIM Card.

Got an eSIM from TIM at Ibirapuera Shopping Center (3rd floor) with just my passport. Important: Ask them to disable autopay to avoid next-month charges.

[QUOTE=TattooedTuna;3000439]The Palms.

The girl insisted on CBJ (the only one I got all trip), which was odd, but she was hot. Upon arrival, the front desk hands you an iPad to browse available girlsyou can pick three for a live presentation. They also have TS options if that's your thing.[/QUOTE]Unless things have changed, it sounds like Sharon because you get to pick 3 and the ts option. The live presentation is giving you a chance to interview the girl. You could avoid the CBJ if you wanted.

Four visits during my time here. Had a great time partying at night on Wednesday and Thursday night with SocratesNY and my harem from the last trip. Ended up taking two new ones for the first two nights and the just kept two till Sunday so I could have variety in demand 😜.

Came in Monday afternoon before my flight and SocratesNY convinced me to change my flight so we could party one more night (wasn't very hard to at that point of the day high as fuck and slightly drunk) and party we did 🤣. Back again on Tuesday as I write this but going to take it easy tonight.

Prices are staying the same 800-1000 R for an hour here and 2000 R for an overnight. I don't negotiate hard anymore. I just tell them what I am willing to pay and that is that. The girls know we are regular gringos and they have seen us a few times around plus we know all the waiters and bouncers so that helps in the negotiations. Again, YMMY.

Really no point in getting numbers and trying to get them outside the club. They aren't going to come out for cheaper and they know what you're trying to pull. Just like all the other fucking Brazilians trying the same thing. Enjoy your time in the club with its awesome laid back luxury atmosphere, tons of hot women dressed elegantly and a party waiting to happen if you are willing to let it flow!

Sunday night we hit up Casarao and it was the same as the last time I went. Much lower quality of girls and the overall venue. Did take one home for an overnight who was cute but nothing great.

Stayed at my regular hotel — Renaissance and it worked out well .. like the area and it is walkable to many restaurants and bars. Suite upgrades cleared beforehand and we had a nice suite with a total of three guests allowed. One night they checked the registrations of the girls and I had to add the third girl to SocratesNY’s room but after that, they didn’t say anything. They do charge a $45 per day extra guest fee.

Can't wait for my return trip!!

I am vacationing in Sao Paulo right now. I have a very hard time getting the girls to come to my hotel room because all of them that I talked to want me to send them the security deposit in advance first before they can come to my hotel. There is no way in hell I would send my money to anyone I don't know. What if I got scammed? What if the person that I sent the money to took the money and ran away? There is nothing protecting my money when it's out of my hand. That's how people get scammed by making that mistake. I wouldn't want to be one of the victims of such fraud. But if I don't do it, how am I supposed to get any of them to come to my room? I even suggested to show them the prove of my hotel reservation along with the room number I am staying in to prove that I am legit but that won't work either. They won't take that as an alternative. It's either their way or no way. Some of them even gave me an attitude when I denied their request by telling them I don't trust them with my money. What the hell is going on here? What are they afraid of to the point that they have to ask you to send them the money in advance? I understand that they don't have anything to lose should the clients stood them up or they could just take the money and run if they really want to piss them off. But on the other hand, there is nothing protecting the clients from losing their money when it's out of their hands. That's not fair, isn't it? Anyway, it doesn't matter. I am still going to stand my ground by not sending my money to anyone I don't know in advance not knowing what's going to happen to it. These girls have their own phone number that they advertised their ads on the websites like.

[URL]www.splove.com.br[/URL]

[URL]https://clubmodel.com.br[/URL]

[URL]www.fatalmodel.com[/URL]

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo[/URL]

There is also a website called [URL]https://www.gp-guia.net/viewforum.php?f=276[/URL] which is the website where the locals use for the info on how to find the escorts and reporting the feedback about the experience with them. Let me know if anyone knows of any good escort agency websites in Sao Paulo where there is no advance payment required.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3000481]
Really no point in getting numbers and trying to get them outside the club. They aren't going to come out for cheaper and they know what you're trying to pull. Just like all the other fucking Brazilians trying the same thing. Enjoy your time in the club with its awesome laid back luxury atmosphere, tons of hot women dressed elegantly and a party waiting to happen if you are willing to let it flow!
[/QUOTE]Not cheaper but it can work both way. I am going to give an example, and let's call it an exception. A college girl who can only work one day a week. You took her number and pay her fair club rate, would she come? I bet she would because she does not have to pay the club and the man does not have to pay for the room. This also works to her favor timewise because she actually gets paid.

Or get her to come at a fair price before she goes club to work , so you do her first at a lower total cost. This way she has money in the bag, and can drive a harder bargain to make man pay more. LOL

If you are a weekend warrior then there is not much point doing so but if you stay for substantial amount of time. You can session in the club and get numbers. Why not go and do 1 or 2 in the club one night and get enough numbers so you can have one for each night the rest of the week at a fair price to the girl. The other way is go to pay the club (entrada+ takeout) each night to bring the girl back to your place so it depends on how you value your money or if you go there for the club or the girl

[QUOTE=Pneumoniall;3000756]I am vacationing in Sao Paulo right now. I have a very hard time getting the girls to come to my hotel room because all of them that I talked to want me to send them the security deposit in advance first before they can come to my hotel. There is no way in hell I would send my money to anyone I don't know. What if I got scammed? What if the person that I sent the money to took the money and ran away? There is nothing protecting my money when it's out of my hand. That's how people get scammed by making that mistake. I wouldn't want to be one of the victims of such fraud. But if I don't do it, how am I supposed to get any of them to come to my room? I even suggested to show them the prove of my hotel reservation along with the room number I am staying in to prove that I am legit but that won't work either. They won't take that as an alternative. It's either their way or no way. Some of them even gave me an attitude when I denied their request by telling them I don't trust them with my money. What the hell is going on here? What are they afraid of to the point that they have to ask you to send them the money in advance? I understand that they don't have anything to lose should the clients stood them up or they could just take the money and run if they really want to piss them off. But on the other hand, there is nothing protecting the clients from losing their money when it's out of their hands. That's not fair, isn't it? Anyway, it doesn't matter. I am still going to stand my ground by not sending my money to anyone I don't know in advance not knowing what's going to happen to it. These girls have their own phone number that they advertised their ads on the websites like.

[URL]www.splove.com.br[/URL]

[URL]https://clubmodel.com.br[/URL]

[URL]www.fatalmodel.com[/URL]

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo[/URL]

There is also a website called [URL]https://www.gp-guia.net/viewforum.php?f=276[/URL] which is the website where the locals use for the info on how to find the escorts and reporting the feedback about the experience with them. Let me know if anyone knows of any good escort agency websites in Sao Paulo where there is no advance payment required.[/QUOTE]I guess my question is why are you doing outcall? Go to the clubs. Scandallo. Casarao. Meet the girl in person. Check the chemistry. Fuck on site. Or bring her back to your room. You are in the best club scene on planet earth. Skip the web and prepayment. Go get a girl in person. There is no better city to do so and if you don't take advantage you will wish later you had.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3000896]I guess my question is why are you doing outcall? Go to the clubs. Scandallo. Casarao. Meet the girl in person. Check the chemistry. Fuck on site. Or bring her back to your room. You are in the best club scene on planet earth. Skip the web and prepayment. Go get a girl in person. There is no better city to do so and if you don't take advantage you will wish later you had.[/QUOTE]Do I have to pay the bar fine before I can take the girl to my room?

The first time a girl ask me to pay first got my wtf reaction. I soon learn that club scene you have to pay first, spas the two I went to you pay afterwards. Getting them to come to your place was a double headache. For one most airbnb wants you to get a pic of their ID document and have you send it to them for them to send to security to let them in. And most girls give you a hard time on this process in addition want to charge you more. Also if they are in a club you have to pay for them to leave. This scenario I hated about Sao Paulo and I am anxious to find away around it. But the sex will be great no matter where you have it with them. Thats 99% charles barkley guranteed.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3000896]I guess my question is why are you doing outcall? Go to the clubs. Scandallo. Casarao. Meet the girl in person. Check the chemistry. Fuck on site. Or bring her back to your room. You are in the best club scene on planet earth. Skip the web and prepayment. Go get a girl in person. There is no better city to do so and if you don't take advantage you will wish later you had.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3000481]Four visits during my time here. Had a great time partying at night on Wednesday and Thursday night with SocratesNY and my harem from the last trip. Ended up taking two new ones for the first two nights and the just kept two till Sunday so I could have variety in demand 😜.

Came in Monday afternoon before my flight and SocratesNY convinced me to change my flight so we could party one more night (wasn't very hard to at that point of the day high as fuck and slightly drunk) and party we did 🤣. Back again on Tuesday as I write this but going to take it easy tonight.

Prices are staying the same 800-1000 R for an hour here and 2000 R for an overnight. I don't negotiate hard anymore. I just tell them what I am willing to pay and that is that. The girls know we are regular gringos and they have seen us a few times around plus we know all the waiters and bouncers so that helps in the negotiations. Again, YMMY.

Really no point in getting numbers and trying to get them outside the club. They aren't going to come out for cheaper and they know what you're trying to pull. Just like all the other fucking Brazilians trying the same thing. Enjoy your time in the club with its awesome laid back luxury atmosphere, tons of hot women dressed elegantly and a party waiting to happen if you are willing to let it flow!

Sunday night we hit up Casarao and it was the same as the last time I went. Much lower quality of girls and the overall venue. Did take one home for an overnight who was cute but nothing great.

Stayed at my regular hotel Renaissance and it worked out well .. like the area and it is walkable to many restaurants and bars. Suite upgrades cleared beforehand and we had a nice suite with a total of three guests allowed. One night they checked the registrations of the girls and I had to add the third girl to SocratesNYs room but after that, they didnt say anything. They do charge a $45 per day extra guest fee.

Can't wait for my return trip!![/QUOTE]It has worked for me before and stated it in my last report. I tool a couple of numbers and I met one of the chicas at my hotel for less than 600 reals. You have to be patient and not be in a rush. In my last trip, I met a girl at who works both at Casarao and Scandallo. On my way out from Casarao stopped to talk to her as I noticed she had been 2 guys in quick sucsession. I told her she must an expert as she had 2 guys done so quickly, she replied itwasnt 2 guys, but three guys. I asked for her number and told her I would see her tommorow at Casarao and she replied She wouldn't be available as She would be working at Scandallo. Same girl Casarao 500 reals, Scandallo 1000 reals. You know which option I chose. She came to my hotel for 500 reals. No harm in trying.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3000896]I guess my question is why are you doing outcall? Go to the clubs. Scandallo. Casarao. Meet the girl in person. Check the chemistry. Fuck on site. Or bring her back to your room. You are in the best club scene on planet earth. Skip the web and prepayment. Go get a girl in person. There is no better city to do so and if you don't take advantage you will wish later you had.[/QUOTE]Never pay in advance. There are tonnes of girls available. Photoacompahantes, com, [URL]fatalmodel.com[/URL], [URL]gpguia.net[/URL], [URL]gparena.net[/URL] and so many other websites. The last two are Brazilian forums with reports and reviews. Also go to the prives and clinicas, clubs and massage parlours. See them live and take numbers. A lot of the pictures on websites are either photoshopped or old. What you order, might not be what you get. Do some research and be patient.

[QUOTE=TattooedTuna;3000439]Finally getting around to writing this after a busy month dealing with personal matters. I won't repeat what's already covered extensively on the forumsjust sharing some key takeaways as a first-timer.

Accommodations.

I stayed in Moema & Vila Mariana, trying three hotels:

Wyndham Ibirapuera Convention Plaza Hotel.

Mercure So Paulo Moema Times Square.

Mercure So Paulo Grand Plaza Paulista.

All were GF-friendly and well-located, but airport noise in Moema is no joke. Compared to the Wyndham, the Mercure Moema Times Square was the better choice..[/QUOTE]The overnight girl was 700 R, typo.