Manila

[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2842080]Tell me about it. More like a medical doctor who is a chain smoker. LOL.[/QUOTE]When you found out Paul McCartney married his hooker second wife without a prenuptial, were you like "nooooooo" LOL.

Why do some prenups get thrown out and some like Trumps always hold up in court when challenged.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2842098]When you found out Paul McCartney married his hooker second wife without a prenuptial, were you like "nooooooo" LOL.

Why do some prenups get thrown out and some like Trumps always hold up in court when challenged.[/QUOTE]I don't know about Trump's prenup, but in my work, I have frequently had prenups thrown out by the court. Usually, the problem is procedural irregularities. If you decide to marry someone and want a prenup to stand the best chance of being enforceable, make sure your prospective wife has her own legal representation and opportunity to be advised before signing the prenup. Problems arise when a husband simply whips out a prenup, drags is fiancée to a notary, and tells her to sign it, without her having the opportunity to read it or consider it with legal counsel. Those are easy to get thrown out.

RG.

[QUOTE=Zippos;2842087]Don't know how you do 1 chick for 3 weeks unless I read it wrong! I barely keep 1 chick for more than 2-3 days with an excuse of going to another city for work which does happens a lot though but if I'm in Manila for 10 days, I would have lined up at least 5-6 and 1 would be back up. Can't tolerate the same one for more than 2 max would be 3. I do switch places in between just for the sake of avoiding unexpected drama.[/QUOTE]That's simply my preference. I'm more into quality rather than quantity. I'd rather have a deep, erotic girlfriend experience with one gorgeous babe for three weeks, seeeing her getting enamored with me, as opposed to brief sexual interludes with multiple girls. To each their own, I suppose.

RG.

Well said sir I tried that once with my Indonesian MILF, only lasted 5 days and I was bored out of my mind. Maybe something to try with a pina just to see how I make out of it. Thanks for the inspiration.

[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2842212]That's simply my preference. I'm more into quality rather than quantity. I'd rather have a deep, erotic girlfriend experience with one gorgeous babe for three weeks, seeeing her getting enamored with me, as opposed to brief sexual interludes with multiple girls. To each their own, I suppose.

RG.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zippos;2842230]Well said sir I tried that once with my Indonesian MILF, only lasted 5 days and I was bored out of my mind. Maybe something to try with a pina just to see how I make out of it. Thanks for the inspiration.[/QUOTE]I have no interest in MILFs or girls who have had kids. I like them young, petite, and tight. My 3 weeks with my young spinner from Surigao City went by too fast. She had a hyper-charged sex drive. Admittedly, I was tempted to propose to her, but I learned the hard way that the US changes these girls. Better to have the awesome memories and move on to a new chickie. 😊.

[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2842212]That's simply my preference. I'm more into quality rather than quantity. I'd rather have a deep, erotic girlfriend experience with one gorgeous babe for three weeks, seeeing her getting enamored with me, as opposed to brief sexual interludes with multiple girls. To each their own, I suppose.

RG.[/QUOTE]Who said it has to be one or the other? 😜.

I've had numerous multi day or even multi week liaisons that have been topped up with short time hookups while she is back at work / home for the day. Best of both worlds.

I'd certainly agree that if a girl is telling me the right lies or pressing the right buttons then there is no reason to change her out simply to have a new face.

I'd also agree with your comment about memories. The only thing is keep them as memories and don't go back and try to relive the past. It always disappoints. Chasing the dragon is never as good as the first hit.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2842029]You are a divorce attorney and still married a chick in the US. That's like a prison guard marrying a serial killer under her watch. "Ted has changed. He has found god, and is really sweet. ".[/QUOTE]This is an excellent discussion thread with sage advice. Everyone contemplating marriage in the PI should read it twice. Intra-cultural marriages are risky ventures whatever the nationality. Add in an income and age disparity and the risk is higher.

The PI is NOT a marriage market for submissive asian brides trained to worship and serve. It's more of a mental cage match where the most savvy and agile wins. You need to go in with the attitude that "It's a business transaction with a performance artist / con-women".

Be up front that you know the game and are not interested in their life story of family tragedy. Just tell them you will pay them to pretend they are an actress in a TV romance and the better they perform the higher the salary. At the end of the day all you really want is good sex at bargain basement prices.

If you are looking for true romance then you are in the wrong place. Join a church in your home country and find a nice parishioner.

One last thought. Think about "Marriage Market Value". The girls you are targeting have zero market value in the Philippines. They are past their "Sell-By" date, and are essentially desperate leftover women. In this world, men control access to marriage, women control access to relationships (hookers excluded as that's not a relationship). Don't waste your pick for a long term partner on leftovers.

[QUOTE=Mahaba;2842326]This is an excellent discussion thread with sage advice. Everyone contemplating marriage in the PI should read it twice. Intra-cultural marriages are risky ventures whatever the nationality. Add in an income and age disparity and the risk is higher.

The PI is NOT a marriage market for submissive asian brides trained to worship and serve. It's more of a mental cage match where the most savvy and agile wins. You need to go in with the attitude that "It's a business transaction with a performance artist / con-women".

Be up front that you know the game and are not interested in their life story of family tragedy. Just tell them you will pay them to pretend they are an actress in a TV romance and the better they perform the higher the salary. At the end of the day all you really want is good sex at bargain basement prices.

If you are looking for true romance then you are in the wrong place. Join a church in your home country and find a nice parishioner.

One last thought. Think about "Marriage Market Value". The girls you are targeting have zero market value in the Philippines. They are past their "Sell-By" date, and are essentially desperate leftover women. In this world, men control access to marriage, women control access to relationships (hookers excluded as that's not a relationship). Don't waste your pick for a long term partner on leftovers.[/QUOTE]I'm not looking for "true" romance in the Philippines, but I enjoy my 3-week flings to be romantic, which is why I'm not into bargirls or P4 P types. I've had those, but they always were disappointing. I'll never overtly lie to girls, by promising marriage, etc. , but I won't tell them it's impossible either. So perhaps I'm lying by omission, so to speak, because they'll then make all sorts of efforts to make me fall in love with them. Yes, perhaps this is dirty pool, but I don't care.

RG.

[QUOTE=Mahaba;2842326]The PI is NOT a marriage market for submissive asian brides trained to worship and serve. It's more of a mental cage match where the most savvy and agile wins. You need to go in with the attitude that "It's a business transaction with a performance artist / con-women".

Be up front that you know the game and are not interested in their life story of family tragedy. Just tell them you will pay them to pretend they are an actress in a TV romance and the better they perform the higher the salary. At the end of the day all you really want is good sex at bargain basement prices..[/QUOTE]Faaaark. Tell me you've been burnt without saying you've been burnt. 😜.

Yes, there are many disastrous mixed marriages but there is also a silent majority of successful ones too. A mongering bulletin board is probably not the best place to go looking for the later.

FWIW, here are some risk factors that I've noticed to both.

Horror stories:

1/. Fall in love after 2 weeks online or in country. Have no awareness of wider PI culture or her values specifically.

2/. Immediately shower her with gifts / use $$ as the main attractant.

3/. Use looks and hotness as the primary selection criterion.

4/. Buy houses, businesses, jewellery etc in country. Lots of sunk costs that are easily garnished by her and require no continued presence by him.

Success stories:

1/. Long term commitment after months in country and getting to know her on a daily basis.

2/. Lots in common for the other 97% of the day.

3/. A 'normal' girl met in 'normal' circumstances. Not online, in a bar etc. Her friends are employed and mostly married to pinoys, not churning thru foreign boyfriends on a weekly basis.

4/. Obviously net worth is likely to be very different but similar social standing, education level and <10 yrs age gap.

5/. Family disasters etc are paid out of her salary / bank account / allowances, not automatically handed to him. Many see no family payments at all.

Most of all, if every girl the guy meets is a money hungry scammer, then perhaps it's not the girls' fault?? Maybe he's just not looking in the right areas. It's great fun to hook up for a few days or weeks but no one is holding a gun to guys' heads to turn this into forever.

Sure there are guys like RG who, despite doing the right things, are still unlucky. I feel for those guys. But there are also many others who ignore the most glaring warning signs and still charge ahead. For those, I have no sympathy.

Enjoy. G.

P.S. For those saying they don't have months to spend in country, then simply don't commit. Come for fun and go back home. If you can't prioritise a few months to make a lifelong commitment, then just don't make that commitment. It will save a lot of $$ and stress.

[QUOTE=Mahaba;2842326]One last thought. Think about "Marriage Market Value". The girls you are targeting have zero market value in the Philippines. [/QUOTE]If this is true, then the guy is looking in the wrong place for a LTR. Broke single moms are great for a night or two of fun. Anything longer or more permanent should be sourced elsewhere.

Enjoy. G.

G.

After your advice on PL and Davao, I must've collected at least a dozen of single moms! Are these by product of some hidden fuck fest that I didn't know about or does Filipino follows Amish culture strictly 😅. Some of them has 4/5 brothers and sisters.

On another topic, what's up with the "paid drinking companion scam!" Wouldn't buzz for P4 P but will take money to drink with me and then decide whether to spread the legs for another fees!

[QUOTE=Goferring;2842373]If this is true, then the guy is looking in the wrong place for a LTR. Broke single moms are great for a night or two of fun. Anything longer or more permanent should be sourced elsewhere.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]

Just out of curiosity, how much do you pay for such duration aside from buying gifts and paying for food and etc?

[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2842348]I'm not looking for "true" romance in the Philippines, but I enjoy my 3-week flings to be romantic, which is why I'm not into bargirls or P4 P types. I've had those, but they always were disappointing. I'll never overtly lie to girls, by promising marriage, etc. , but I won't tell them it's impossible either. So perhaps I'm lying by omission, so to speak, because they'll then make all sorts of efforts to make me fall in love with them. Yes, perhaps this is dirty pool, but I don't care.

RG.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2842369]Faaaark. Tell me you've been burnt without saying you've been burnt. 😜.

Yes, there are many disastrous mixed marriages but there is also a silent majority of successful ones too. A mongering bulletin board is probably not the best place to go looking for the later.

FWIW, here are some risk factors that I've noticed to both.

Horror stories:

1/. Fall in love after 2 weeks online or in country. Have no awareness of wider PI culture or her values specifically.

2/. Immediately shower her with gifts / use $$ as the main attractant.

3/. Use looks and hotness as the primary selection criterion.

4/. Buy houses, businesses, jewellery etc in country. Lots of sunk costs that are easily garnished by her and require no continued presence by him.

Success stories:

1/. Long term commitment after months in country and getting to know her on a daily basis.

2/. Lots in common for the other 97% of the day.

3/. A 'normal' girl met in 'normal' circumstances. Not online, in a bar etc. Her friends are employed and mostly married to pinoys, not churning thru foreign boyfriends on a weekly basis.

4/. Obviously net worth is likely to be very different but similar social standing, education level and <10 yrs age gap.

5/. Family disasters etc are paid out of her salary / bank account / allowances, not automatically handed to him. Many see no family payments at all.

Most of all, if every girl the guy meets is a money hungry scammer, then perhaps it's not the girls' fault?? Maybe he's just not looking in the right areas. It's great fun to hook up for a few days or weeks but no one is holding a gun to guys' heads to turn this into forever.

Sure there are guys like RG who, despite doing the right things, are still unlucky. I feel for those guys. But there are also many others who ignore the most glaring warning signs and still charge ahead. For those, I have no sympathy.

Enjoy. G.

P.S. For those saying they don't have months to spend in country, then simply don't commit. Come for fun and go back home. If you can't prioritise a few months to make a lifelong commitment, then just don't make that commitment. It will save a lot of $$ and stress.[/QUOTE]Man, some people are really jaded by life, and I get it. My first marriage (not to pinay) ended after 15 years and numerous affairs by her, her giving me a std because she didn't have the decency to use a fucking condom even, and then deciding that she was a lesbian and moving her girlfriend in. I stuck it out as long as I could because divorce laws suck in no-fault states and, even though I was honestly faithful that entire time, I still had no realistic shot at physical custody and owe an exorbitant amount of money in child support each month. I will always support my kids, but it sucks to pay and not see them everyday.

My "serious province girlfriend" I spoke of earlier is actually my wife, and has been for over a year already. I'm just not particularly proud messing around on her. We met online, introduced by her cousin living in the US, and had ldr for a couple of years because of pandemic lockdowns. She never once asked me for money; the only thing she asked me for before I came to Philippines was when I wanted to send her a gift for Vday and she asked for a new phone because her old one was really bad. I took that $60 for the phone as an investment; the worst case would have been that it is lost. But it turned out that she was a keeper. After foreigners were allowed in, I was on one of the first flights in so I could be with her in the province and really see who she was. We got married after a few months and she just had our first child a few months ago. She works hard with her own business and, though I send money now, I found out when I went this summer that she actually has been saving most of it and using the money she makes for daily needs and bills. She is a quality woman, and she has never approached me with a family emergency, even though she has 11 siblings, 9 of whom can't manage their lives! The plan is to move there when the right work opportunity opens up for me.

The only drawback is she doesn't really enjoy sex, mostly because of an injury that she is too embarrassed to have fixed. She enjoys during, but hurts for days after. So, I have her tacit approval to play, as long as I don't tell her about it, don't do it in her province, and always use protection. If asked by a provider why I want to use a condom, I'll tell them why. Which is why I found it so hilarious that this young lady I was seeing in Manila was obsessing over not using a condom if I see her in December because she is my girlfriend, too, according to her. It's crazy!

So let me get something straight. Are most of these guys that marry pinays marrying hookers or regular girls at the mall. Are the hookers as attractive as the girls that work the counter at the malls. The girl smiles at them and it's marriage visa time.

I personally have never considered bringing any girl to America under any type of visa. Especially a hooker. That's a simp move. Enjoy the illusion for a week and then come back to earth.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2842456]So let me get something straight. Are most of these guys that marry pinays marrying hookers or regular girls at the mall. Are the hookers as attractive as the girls that work the counter at the malls. The girl smiles at them and it's marriage visa time.

I personally have never considered bringing any girl to America under any type of visa. Especially a hooker. That's a simp move. Enjoy the illusion for a week and then come back to earth.[/QUOTE]I don't even want to bring me back to the USA as soon as I escape.