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Oh please. The AC system is rather unique and prices vary greatly from one end of the street to the other, not to mention bar to bar. I highly respect someone who comes and wings it and learns the ropes. Some of the most informed members at ISG are people who visited before the Internet existed.

Not naming names, but I have a lot more loathing for members who pontificate, yet never add a meaningful picture nor field report.

Anyway, great so see you are back in PI AV. How is the boat? When are you leaving?

[QUOTE=Amavida;1944345]Have to admire the chutzpah of someone to arrive in AC and only then start asking RTFM questions. Just sayin'.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;1944248]The bar fines at Fields Avenue bars are around 3,000 PHP. Some will vary from this. This is all inclusive and unlike in Manila or BKK, there is no need to pay the girl a separate fee. You may of course give the girl a tip at your discretion. The bar fines at the Perimeter bars (from Eruptions at mid-Perimeter through to Drill Shack on the far Perimeter) are between 1500 - 2000 PHP. Sometimes you will pay the fee to the mamasan and sometimes you will give the money to the girl. The girl will not get changed into street clothes until the money has been paid.

The bar fine at the night time bars is meant to be for LT (I. E. The girl leaves in the morning), but as has been discussed extensively before, many of the girls will leave at around 2. 00 am after 1-pop. They will cite a number of totally unbelievable reasons. There is nothing you can do about it. Just let her go and if your cock still needs more attention, go out on the prowl again and collect another girl. It's no big deal.

Many of the Perimeter bars are day time bars, opening around 12.00 noon. If you bar fine a girl there, the understanding is that you will release her at around 9. 00 pm so she can go home. Obviously, as with anything in AC, everything can be negotiated.

When you enter a bar, the girl on stage might make eye contact with you or the waitress might invite you to select a girl. When you bring the lady down to the seat next to you, buy her a lady drink and commence the interview process. This is when you negotiate the services she will offer and the time she will leave. Confirm that she is not on her period. Of course she can change her mind on anything she agreed to once she is in your room. Remember to tip the waitress.

If the girl says to you "may be you go with my friend", then take that as a no. Don't push it further. This response means any or all of the following:

1. I don't like you.

2. I'm on my period.

3. I've been barfined enough this week / month and I can't be bothered.

Please let us know how you go![/QUOTE]Good advice. To add to this there is no sure fire way to have a guaranteed good time in AC. Individual experiences vary. Take good with the bad. There are plenty of girls to go around. If you are not watching your pennies you will have a good time. AC although comparatively inexpensive still need to spend to have a good time. Gone are the days when you barfine, no tip, girl stays with you till morning, gives you as many pops you like, totally GFE etc. Even though I visit AC for a couple days (old habits never die) rarely barfine anybody. Usually I will have a dating site girl with me. But for adult Disneyland AC fits the bill. No age barrier, sex rules, do not feel out of place.

By contrast Thai girls generally do fulfill their obligations once you barfine them in my opinion.

[QUOTE=MachoDik;1944299]I arrived my hotel Central Park tower and taking a long walk all the way to Lewis grand, but don't see any candy bar club only saw hide, emotion or eruption, not sure if bar is open or close except if there is some girls in the front door.[/QUOTE]You didn't walk far enough. Those bars are a bit past Lewis Grand. Search for one of the AC bar maps.

[QUOTE=MachoDik;1944259]I heard that those waitresses at the bar can also be bar fine? SNIP

At least if they left by one or two early morning then still will be 2 pops at the end? LOL.[/QUOTE]MD: The answers to your questions are available thru RTTF. I have answered many of your questions in PM (assuming you would stop asking them on the open board). Just go experience the place for yourself.

On occasion, a good Board Member here will tell me (or others) to stop stifling the newbs who ask questions. This is what you get: he is somehow ADHD, and every question that goes thru his head must come out of his mouth (or pen / keyboard). He will want answers (on the open board) to every question he has, and he will ask them 1-2 at a time as they go thru his head, for weeks. How will I get to AC? How much will it cost? How much is the barfine? Do I have to tip the girl? How many bars are there? Is it like Patts? Do I have to buy the girl a drink? Do the girls do anal? Do they demand condom? Will the sidewalk be cement or asphault? Will the Filipina belly buttons be inny? Outty? Will it rain on Wednesday between 4 - 4:30 pm? Will fairies fly out of my ass and sing when I cum? The answer to all those questions is: "Yes".

I kind of have to agree with you Westie. I had advised the BM to get a copy of Wayne's AC Map before he arrived in AC and if he had bothered to do so he would have known that Candy Bar and Ice Bar were just a couple of blocks past the Lewis. I also warned him about the quality in MBC before he arrived in Manila. Oh well, some guys have to learn from experience. I do not find him that objectionable since he is paying it forward with his own trip reports. He will learn and be a part of the community I hope.

Now on a totally different and much more serious matter: it seems we have a troll lurking on the forum whose only reason for being here is to trash AC and ruin this forum as an informational source on things AC. I tried communicating with him in a PM format and he accused me of being "a serial positive angeles poster" with "a vested interest to post what "{I} do {that} suits {my} pockets " and furthermore with "{my} photos that many have questioned by pm to {him} as not being yours{meaning mine} only copied and pasted".

HA HA. This guy is out of his mind. I would love to know who PM'd this idiot and suggested I had a financial stake in any business concern in the PI let alone AC, but I know he is just making this stuff up. And I would also really like to know who questioned the authenticity of my photos. What photos? I have not posted pics of my girls in the public forum for a long, long time because I don't like camouflaging their faces to hide their identities since it is the face that is the most important feature I look at when I check out a girl. Yet at the same time, I realize the importance of protecting my girl's identities. Its is a problem I have addressed several times in the past because I would like very much to post pictures of my girls. Some of my girls look really outstanding. I do, however, exchange in private many unobscured, untouched photos of my girls with ISG friends that I trust. Of course the troll would not know this. He is clueless.

But then the troll goes on to write, thinking he is making some clever disparaging point, "I always argue and say nah if one wanted to copy and paste at least they would choose good looking girls, so as you see many suspect your motives and I have to agree with them". All made up BS. I mean what kind of person makes this shit up in a private one on one PM to another person? A moron for one and a completely dishonest moron for two.

So I had my doubts about this guy for a long time since everyone of his posts since coming on the forum in his present identity is a bad rap on AC and he posts about nowhere else. Now after lying and making things up about me in a PM to me, I can only come to the conclusion that this troll is either out of his mind siting in his mama's basement typing posts to this forum in his underpants or he is a darker character working for some NGO or Church outfit. It is funny how he came on the forum at about the same time the Reverend McCobb was getting kicked off. He has the same repetitive message.

Finally in a PM I asked this guy to tell me where else he had mongered and what places he liked since it was clear he disliked AC so much. He wrote back, " thanks for putting me forward for my own forum, I will make you a special member, then maybe you will learn something about angeles, thailand and Jakarta, nearly 2000 posts and not a clue LOL" I then asked him one last time to direct me to only one or two of his posts not on AC and I got nothing back.

I know the general rule is: don't feed the Troll, but in this guy's case, he is more than a troll. His purpose is to discourage BM's from posting reports and to dissuade newbies from checking out AC. At first I suggested he be given his own forum so he could stand alone and be ignored, but after his completely disingenuous PM's to me, I now believe he should be banned from the ISG just like the Reverend. He is not one of us. He is not a monger.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1944535]I know the general rule is: don't feed the Troll, but in this guy's case, he is more than a troll. His purpose is to discourage BM's from posting reports and to dissuade newbies from checking out AC. At first I suggested he be given his own forum so he could stand alone and be ignored, but after his completely disingenuous PM's to me, I now believe he should be banned from the ISG just like the Reverend. He is not one of us. He is not a monger.[/QUOTE]Perhaps this is Matthew Cobb with a new name LOL.

Westie you are way to kind and generous to mangers like this guy are they plenty on other threads (eg UAE) and mainly get told to RTFF and do some basics before asking so many questions.

As you said NB, you ask for proof and nothing comes back, you call them out then some ie admin say you are abrasive and should not be so unkind. But then a quick check of the troll's FR history clearly points to a troll. So I let Westie be kind etc as he is a nice guy and me I just call them out or ignore (depends what mood am in. Playful / annoying or bored LOL).

As I reached AC as report back earlier and after waking pass Lewis Grand, at first I can not locate the Candy bar of which I suddenly mentioned In my report but not seeking advise which Westie reply with a bit disappointment. Sorry Westie not asking questions in that post. Anyway, so happy some other member have send me PM and even cautioned me to be careful walking there. Thanks!

Anyway, I got my first experience with a BG from the bar next door of candy bar. I just notice this after the girl I am with told me. I BF her php 1600 but she told me straight that she will only stay till 8:30 pm, ok for me as already expected. She give me a good BJ CIM and after few hours later a fuck in her pussy. Ok for her without condom but definitely no way for me. Drained Ana unable to repeat another BF tonight at the waking street.

Been too Atlantis, doll house, lollipop. Initially wanting to go another BF with the lollipop BG but she told me she only go for ST to tonight and promise for an LT tomorrow which I just decline to BF not because of the ST / LT issue but because I was so drained today. Feeling I will not enjoy sex then.

Here is the photo of the perimeter BG of today:

It's been so difficult to upload photo due to slow internet from Globe. Anyway here is some photos of the hotel and I also asked housekeeper to vacate the mini bar;.

Bar fines are set by the bar. I have run in to occasions where the BG has a higher rate than the set rate. Especially if the girl is popular (8.5+) or have regular drinking customers coming in later.

The bars can not make the BG go with you. Get it out of your mind that barfining is as easy as putting money in a vending machine and you are in your way. The K's might point and pay but I am sure they hear the rules later and when they pass out the girl is running home.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1944535]So I had my doubts about this guy for a long time since everyone of his posts since coming on the forum in his present identity is a bad rap on AC and he posts about nowhere else. Now after lying and making things up about me in a PM to me, I can only come to the conclusion that this troll is either out of his mind siting in his mama's basement typing posts to this forum in his underpants or he is a darker character working for some NGO or Church outfit. It is funny how he came on the forum at about the same time the Reverend McCobb was getting kicked off. He has the same repetitive message. [/QUOTE]So lets just ask. Napa, are you affiliated with any NGO, or any non-mongering organization (s)?

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1944535]Finally in a PM I asked this guy to tell me where else he had mongered and what places he liked since it was clear he disliked AC so much. He wrote back, " thanks for putting me forward for my own forum, I will make you a special member, then maybe you will learn something about angeles, thailand and Jakarta, nearly 2000 posts and not a clue LOL" I then asked him one last time to direct me to only one or two of his posts not on AC and I got nothing back.[/QUOTE]Natty *does* have a point. So lets just ask. Napa, you are a monger, right? And where have you mongered outside AC?

Postcript: I miss Father Cobb (just a bit).

[QUOTE=MachoDik;1944544]
Been too Atlantis, doll house, lollipop. Initially wanting to go another BF with the lollipop BG but she told me she only go for ST to tonight and promise for an LT tomorrow which I just decline to BF not because of the ST / LT issue but because I was so drained today. Feeling I will not enjoy sex then.

Here is the photo of the perimeter BG of today:[/QUOTE]Note: all mobile internet in the bar district is usually tragically slow. As soon as you move away from that small area (to other cell towers) speeds go up. If desperate, save up your pics and upload away from the bar district.

Thanks for sharing MD. Nice pics. Enjoy your trip mate 👍.

[QUOTE=Amavida;1944683]Note: all mobile internet in the bar district is usually tragically slow. As soon as you move away from that small area (to other cell towers) speeds go up. If desperate, save up your pics and upload away from the bar district.

Thanks for sharing MD. Nice pics. Enjoy your trip mate 👍.[/QUOTE]Thanks Amavida,

Yes you are right, I was simply can not have any internet connection at the walking street area but I got a faster one when I reached the Jolibee then.

Last night I sleep alone in my big soft bed at my hotel, so sorry for myself not making any BF at all because I was so drained yesterday afternoon with the BG from the perimeter bar. A mistakes? I don't know but I have sleep well last night and planning to BF some prospective in lollipop tonignt or perhaps other bar. But what to do before 6 pm today? Should I have to visit another afternoon bar? What if I find another girl I like? Then drained again? LOL, well as I initially plan one BF for the afternoon ST and one BF for the night is no longer a reality after I reached here, I am really old, can not do it this way now, may be due to the fact that since last week I have almost consecutively with different girls and totally drained me.

Perhaps you guys are young or pergolas you have some technique to enjoy the sex at this limited time.

Cheers,

MD.

[QUOTE=MachoDik;1944724]Thanks Amavida,
Last night I sleep alone in my big soft bed at my hotel, so sorry for myself not making any BF at all because I was so drained yesterday afternoon with the BG from the perimeter bar.

Perhaps you guys are young or pergolas you have some technique to enjoy the sex at this limited time.

Cheers,

MD.[/QUOTE]Ha! Ha! MD you realise there is probably about a thousand horny punters reading your happy reports and deeply envious right now? 😋😋😋.

I'm from the 72 hour school. Blow in, have non stop promiscuous sex for 3 days and then be carried to the plane on a stretcher LOL! Viagra + Gatorade essential. Sleep optional but advisable.

Cheers mate.

[QUOTE=Amavida;1944728]Ha! Ha! MD you realise there is probably about a thousand horny punters reading your happy reports and deeply envious right now? 😋😋😋.

I'm from the 72 hour school. Blow in, have non stop promiscuous sex for 3 days and then be carried to the plane on a stretcher LOL! Viagra + Gatorade essential. Sleep optional but advisable.

Cheers mate.[/QUOTE]You were having promiscuous sex? Oh my!! Why not share the details as any worthy BM would do?

I will say you do an excellent job of brown nosing newbiess w / out a clue.

Bravo! Oh, and I won't hold my breath for your field reports.

[QUOTE=Amavida;1944728]Ha! Ha! MD you realise there is probably about a thousand horny punters reading your happy reports and deeply envious right now? 😋😋😋.

I'm from the 72 hour school. Blow in, have non stop promiscuous sex for 3 days and then be carried to the plane on a stretcher LOL! Viagra + Gatorade essential. Sleep optional but advisable.

Cheers mate.[/QUOTE]LOL, incidentally, last night at the walking street a foreign mongers like us have been carried out from Viking by a stretcher to the ambulance parking outside. I suddenly heard from a street vendor shouting oh! That guy just by from him a viagra! May be he was fainted due to being pervert! I look at that street vendors and saying to my self, I better give myself a break that night and it's good I bring my own cialis or else buying fake drug from them may resulted like that guy's fate!

Cheers,

MD.