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[QUOTE=ThreeInches;2973343]I used the search looked through a few 100 posts but nothing about pros and cons about the classic hotel specifically like a normal hotel review and nothing on if they allow outside guests and why guys prefer to say at non mongering venue hotel and travel to this hotel if they travel to this hotel everyday anyways, there has to be some reason why they don't just stay at classic hotel and choose to travel to the hotel daily absorbing travel costs that would negate any savings. One reason might be that they don't want a mongering venue on record but if this is not an issue would they just stay at classic hotel. Hard to have any plausible deniability if you stay at classic hotel as well as the other venues I mentioned in the original post this much I understand is there any other reason why not to?
Haven't found the follow up about classic to this one.
This person says they RTFF and didn't see recommendations to stay at classic hotel as well.
No details about the hotel.
There are many reviews of the terminals and nightlife but the hotel it self if you can find a review please share it as I've tried to find it.[/QUOTE]Because I changed my plan and stayed at the sparks life hotel on mangga besar for the first few days instead.
My reasoning was that I wanted to bring in outside girls to my room and figured that classic would frown on this since they have their own brothels inside the same place.
I later moved to an Airbnb and walked to classic many times over the course of about 7 weeks and I saw that many people do stay there. Especially in the elevator going to T5 I would see other mongers get out on the 4th floor I think those guys were staying there.
From what I could tell it looks just like an average hotel but It would be convenient to stay there for access to T2 and T5 and has some restaurants attached too and is walking distance to a mall. But if you wanted to bring in civvies or street girls or girls you met from online, then I think Classic would not be good for that.
-Gabacho.
P.S.: I may stay there for first few days during my upcoming may trip but I haven't decided yet.
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[QUOTE=ArnoldNe;2973472]Dear All,
I will be I will be in Jakarta this weekend, and will share all my experiences as and how I come across them, have been following this forum for past 6 months, and most of the reports (80-90%) are about Classic, it almost feels like I will be visiting Classic and not Jakarta LOL.
Just wondering if there are any locations or setups for casual interactions (like not bang-bang) but some foreplay (DFK, casual touches, etc only), this is mainly to kill some time between the sessions or like a recharge / warm-up for the next session. I have read about Kotah-Indah bars but from what I have understood so far they are also about taking the girl to the room for a bang. Haven't read a lot about Blok M and if they provide such entertainment, Malio from what I have understood is a strip club with option to take girl to room (this is more in line with what I am looking for), however I understand that girls over here will try to rip you off with the shots scam (I will give it a try to see for myself). It will be helpful if anybody could shed some light on these setups and whether they or something similar is available in Jakarta.[/QUOTE]Yes, it feels like that but it is by no means the only thing. There is also: Travel, Emporium, Club 1001, Starmoon Bar, New Medika, Malio, Kota India. Grand LA, MTR, New Sari Ayu, CJS Bar, BATS Bar, Lokasari.
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[QUOTE=Joe2422;2973534]Yes, it feels like that but it is by no means the only thing. There is also: Travel, Emporium, Club 1001, Starmoon Bar, New Medika, Malio, Kota India. Grand LA, MTR, New Sari Ayu, CJS Bar, BATS Bar, Lokasari.[/QUOTE]Thanks, did come across these names across posts some more than once (pretty familiar with the Classic, Emporium SOP by now), looking for something where you don't get bound to 1 girl for the entire session (typical bang session), instead just chill out at the venue / couch with multiple girls (one after another) over drinks and tips for their company (with some fun elements included as mentioned in prev. Post).
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More days in Jakarta
Day 2 in Jakarta.
Emporium.
Arrived in Emporium at 5 pm and went to the spa. I felt like I was late, because there were 3 or 4 guys before me picking exactly the girls I would have chosen.
When it was my turn there were only about 8 girls available. Luckily one of them looked very nice, for 1,2 juta. And this time I got the service I was looking for.
Nothing rushed, lots of DFK, her enjoying DATY, great BJ, long fucks in many positions, it was great. When I offered 500 k tip for BBFS she declined and I didn't offer more.
But still a very good experience, my best so far.
Classic Terminal 5.
Later I went to Terminal 5 and picked a skinny 18 why / o. She said she liked alcohol and very quickly drank the beer I offered her. That might have been a mistake.
She later acted too drunk for my taste. The session started okay with a decent enough blow job. When negotiating BBFS she drove a hard bargain and I accepted 300 k.
I wish I had not, because the actual fucking was just horrible. In mish she twisted her legs in a very strange way which made it very difficult to fuck her.
And in doggy she arched her body forcefully in the wrong way which was equally annoying. When I stopped because it just didn't work she begged me to come back.
After that it got just a little bit better. I managed to come, but it really wasn't fun at all.
Malio.
If you like beautiful girls with fantastic huge breast, and you have money to burn, this is the place for you. But for me? 4 juta for FS? Hell no. The ladydrinks cost 66 k and don't last long.
Day 3.
I saved my energy for a Tinder date I had dinner with. She was okay looking, but dull and didn't even kiss on the first date. That sucked. Put her in a Grab and went directly to:
Travel.
First I stayed in front of the stage. Some of the dancers are actually very nice. Some great boobs on display. Ladydrinks are 35 k. For 3 of them I kissed and groped.
One of the dancers for a while. It was fun. She first asked for 2,4 juta for FS. When I didn't accept, she lowered the price to 2,1. I still wasn't interested.
But I got her number and she would have come to my hotel the next day for 1,5 juta. But no BBFS on offer.
I went to the back part and got a nice looking 20 why / o. Very bad choice. She wouldn't kiss. When I said I would cancel the session because of that, she asked for 100 k tip for DFK.
I accepted because I'm stupid. By now I should have learned that it never makes sense to pay a hooker for DFK. If she doesn't do it for free it always sucks.
Like in this case. Anyway, this wasn't the biggest problem. First I got the worst and weirdest BJ of my live. After every 10 seconds of sucking, she would stop and wipe the tip of my dick with a tissue. WTF? I tried to stop the session. She got worried and dropped the tissue. But she still stopped every 10 seconds to look at my dick. What was that about? Was she checking if I had come??
Than I tried to fuck her. The tissues returned. After every change of position, she wiped my dick with a tissue and than put new lubricant on it. WTF was this for? I still managed to fuck her for about 10 minutes, but at the end it was so weird and annoying that I stopped. She saw that the condom was empty and got a bit worried. But I told her it was okay.
Anyway. This might have been one of my worst P4 P experiences in my life. I hope it gets better from now on. To save my day I went back to:
Classic terminal 2.
Got a nice 21 why / o hard body. Great DFK, one of the best blow jobs I had in a while. We couldn't agree on BBFS. I don't remember how much I offered. It was 300 k at least. I'm not even sure she would have accepted at all. But the session was so good that I tipped 200 k at the end anyway. This girl should teach the other girls how to give a proper blow job!
Day 4.
Emporium.
Got there at 14:15. I think I was the first customer. The place opens at 14:00 and there was nobody else in the pool. There were about 12 or 14 girls to choose from.
Got a girl with fantastic see cups, small waist and a great ass. What a perfect body.
She tried to rush a bit. But I managed to slow her down and got a very good session from her. I offered 500 k for BBFS. She asked for 1000 k and I declined.
I tipped her 300 k. The minimum is 200 k and I wanted to show that I liked her performance.
Actually, the condom that was provided really was too small. I have a normal, medium sized dick. But this Indonesian stuff sucks. I'm happy I brought my own.
Later at 10 pm I went to Classic. I checked all 3 floors but couldn't find anything I liked.
Conclusion.
So far I'm happy with my trip. It's a welcome change from Pattaya. The only thing that is different from my expectations is: so far it seems that I have to choose between good service and BBFS. And I'm spending way more money than expected.
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[QUOTE=Gabacho;2973323]I my reports of classic in Nov and Dec I specifically reported times where I walked directly up to the sofas and picked a girl and then asked her for her mami. It works quite simple actually. In T5 it's basically always done like that but they all have the same mami in there but in T2 it works too you just have to wait for the right mami that belongs to the girl you pick, then you pay the 365 k and it's off to the room.
-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]Just wondering how this works if you want to pick 2 girls (the 500 k deal)?
Let's assume I want to have one wearing a red dress and another wearing blue. Is the 500 k deal available even though the girls had different mamis?
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[QUOTE=Jalle;2973668]Just wondering how this works if you want to pick 2 girls (the 500 k deal)?
Let's assume I want to have one wearing a red dress and another wearing blue. Is the 500 k deal available even though the girls had different mamis?[/QUOTE]I believe the 500 k deal for two girls is available regardless of which mamasan the girls have. Someone correct me if I am wrong (as I have only ever done one girl at a time in classic) but I don't see why it would matter if the two girls you choose have different mamasans.
It has been reported here that it's 2 girls for 500 k and you get 90 minutes in the room instead of 60 mins like you get with just one girl. That's a hell of a deal if you want a three sum but myself personally I like to focus on one girl at a time so I am not particularly into doing three sums.
Gabacho.
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[QUOTE=Jalle;2973668]Just wondering how this works if you want to pick 2 girls (the 500 k deal)?
Let's assume I want to have one wearing a red dress and another wearing blue. Is the 500 k deal available even though the girls had different mamis?[/QUOTE]No I've been told several times that doesn't work. Has to be from the same mami.
If is possible, if you really insisted they may even charge you 365 k x2 and not 500 k. That's my theory anyway.
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[QUOTE=Scarer;2973469]The security personnel don't have access to the keys. ATMs are typically managed by third party agents responsible for loading and unloading the cash. If security staff had the keys, it would make it much easier for robbers to knock him down and steal the money.
I once forgot my card in an ATM attached to a large bank. When I asked the security guard, he said there was nothing he could do. The next day, during bank hours, I went to the branch and was informed that all ATM cards left behind / struck inside the machine are sent to the bank's head office, where they are later destroyed. This process is handled by a third-party service, not the branch itself. Unfortunately, they never return the cards. The only option is to apply for a replacement.[/QUOTE]I got my bank card back but it's been marked and no longer useable at any ATM machines in Jakarta that I know of. It's so fukn dumb. I even had to sign paperwork that I would never use this card at one particular bank.
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[QUOTE=Sychip1;2973429]
What else did you want to know? Because it's a 3-star hotel, don't expect it to have a ton of other facilities.[/QUOTE]Thanks for replying I appreciate it.
Do they still make you get the short time rooms or can the girl go up to your room inside classic hotel is it even an option?
I also tried to book on their site and I used several different cards all got the same error about exceeding the MAX fraud. I had to book on Agoda but I could only book the lowest possible room? I wanted to get the suite because this place is not that expensive but its just not an option on agoda. How / Where did you book the hotel?
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2973490]
My reasoning was that I wanted to bring in outside girls to my room and figured that classic would frown on this since they have their own brothels inside the same place.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply, you echoed a lot of what I was thinking.
True or not true that is what I'm trying to figure out. If they allow outside girls this is not a bad option if they do indeed frown upon it then that is reason enough to find something else.
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BBBJ or BBFS
I've been to Jakarta a few times and want your advice on asking for BBBJ or BBFS since most girls don't speak much English at Classic, Travel or Kota Indah.
On my most recent trip in Sept, I ended up showing them a text on my phone that said "blowjob without condom" translated to Indonesian. Most girls interpreted my text to be "sex without condom" and objected. After some hand gesture, I indicated I only wanted a blowjob without condom but sex with condom is fine.
Just wondering how some of you guys communicate with the girls. Any advice is appreciated.
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[QUOTE=Jalle;2973668]Just wondering how this works if you want to pick 2 girls (the 500 k deal)?
Let's assume I want to have one wearing a red dress and another wearing blue. Is the 500 k deal available even though the girls had different mamis?[/QUOTE]No it is not, you only get this offer if you choose 2 women from the same group. If you want two women from 2 different groups you pay 2 x 365,000.
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2973761]I've been to Jakarta a few times and want your advice on asking for BBBJ or BBFS since most girls don't speak much English at Classic, Travel or Kota Indah.
On my most recent trip in Sept, I ended up showing them a text on my phone that said "blowjob without condom" translated to Indonesian. Most girls interpreted my text to be "sex without condom" and objected. After some hand gesture, I indicated I only wanted a blowjob without condom but sex with condom is fine.
Just wondering how some of you guys communicate with the girls. Any advice is appreciated.[/QUOTE]I found that most girls do BBBJ normally without any prompting. The normal routine with a girl that is average and doesn't have much chemistry is to take a shower together where you are cleaned thoroughly, then after the shower she will get you to lay down and ask if you want BJ and she will have her little kit of tissue paper and listerine. Out of being with probably 50-60 girls there I think only 2 did not give BBBJ. In the beginning before committing to the deal I would ask each girl about BBBJ most would say yes, but now I take it for granted and would find it odd if they did not. Many do give lazy BJ so I mostly just concentrate on how attracted I am to the girl, and trying to get an idea of what the chemistry is like. These days I only ask if I am going with the two girl option if they are going to insist on doing the listerine wipe down every time before they swap. Very few seem to allow CIM, or anal, but BBFS, I find is very common. Standard tip seems to be about 100 k, If sex is really good, I am feeling generous or we have nice chemistry I give 150-200. I haven't done BBFS with the two girl option but other users report it is possible with some girls.
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[QUOTE=Joe2422;2973771]No it is not, you only get this offer if you choose 2 women from the same group. If you want two women from 2 different groups you pay 2 x 365,000.[/QUOTE]Can anyone confirm whether or not this is true?
And how would that work in T5 then where all the mamasans are in charge of all the girls?
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[QUOTE=Safado70;2973649]Day 2 in Jakarta.
So far I'm happy with my trip. It's a welcome change from Pattaya. The only thing that is different from my expectations is: so far it seems that I have to choose between good service and BBFS. And I'm spending way more money than expected.[/QUOTE]Good report, just curious as to why the Travel girl quoted you such a high price, I believe Travel prices are similar to Classic with the exception of 200 k entrance fee, was it bcoz she was a dancer girl?
Also it seems that you might have tried too hard for the BBFS aspect, check Gabacho's reports and how much is the avg. Tip for said service. If girl you are with is not upto the offer (shouldn't be more than 100/200 k for fair price and 300 k if you are feeling generous), switch to the next girl, so many reports of girls doing it across places, it is possible that the next girl you choose will probably do it even for 100 k.
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[QUOTE=SeanWilkds;2973817]I found that most girls do BBBJ normally without any prompting. The normal routine with a girl that is average and doesn't have much chemistry is to take a shower together where you are cleaned thoroughly, then after the shower she will get you to lay down and ask if you want BJ and she will have her little kit of tissue paper and listerine. Out of being with probably 50-60 girls there I think only 2 did not give BBBJ. [/QUOTE]Curious to know you handled that, Accepted covered BJ? Myself I'd probably be turned off enough to cancel the session, which I guess means I'd be out 365 k unless the girl changed her mind at that point.