Angeles City

My initial trip to Angeles was in 2013 and I was last here in 2014. Just as I have read in the forum, this time there were more rejections to my requests to go out. Fortunately, both from experience and RTFF, I do not buy the gals a drink until a short interview. Expecting this, it did not bother me at all, just move onto the next gal or next bar.

No rain for 2 consecutive days!

The Scorebirds Pool Party does not start until 2 pm on Saturdays so my intel to show up shortly after 12 was a bummer.

At the airport, there are free tourist SIM cards available for your smartphone; 200 got me unlimited data for 5 days. So cheap. Another 100 got me minimum calls. Globe and Smart have booths in the exit lobby.

Around Phillies Bar before you get to Walking Street entrance, I was handed business cards for outcall massage by young looking gals. I was tempted but declined; I consider these girls free lancers though their cards name a company. I am a little cautious so worried about [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] and scams.

At one Perimeter bar, I got a surprise answer during interview: when asked how long she would stay, she said 'up to you'. I ended up declining to choose her mainly because she is approaching 30 and has 3 kids but I still bought her a drink.

I shall return to Angeles.

Cal8.

I have visited AC 45 times from 2003 to 2013. After a 3 year hiatus, I decided to stop by for 5 days after being in Bali for a week. I have been reading all the negative reports posted here about Koreans taking over the bars. The girls only going with Koreans. The girls only wanting short time. Just a lot of Joli-bellies dancing now. The very poor attitudes, Etc. Etc. Etc.

Since I remember the 'How it was' and now know 'How it is' I will give you my trip experience.

Positives:

Day 1- BF'the a 7 from Viking for the afternoon. 3000 P. Very GFE. Had her leave at 7 pm.

-BF'the an 8 from Club RA (formerly Golden Nile). 3000 P. Very GFE. Stayed all night.

Day 2-BF'the a 7 from Pony Tails for the afternoon. 3000 P. Very GFE and stayed until I asked her to leave about 7 pm.

-BF'the a 7 from Club RA. 3000 P. Very GFE and stayed all night and had breakfast in the morning. Left about 10 am.

Day 3- BF'the an 8 from Pony Tails for afternoon. 3000 P. Very GFE and kept her all night for free. Spent the next day with her and sent her home 6 pm.

Day 4- BF'the an 8 from Club Ra. 3000 P. Very GFE, Stayed all night and had breakfast with me.

Day 5- BF's a solid 8. 5/9 from Club XS (sister club to Club Ra) 3500 P (I think). Very GFE and stayed all night. I would have kept her a couple of days if I had more time.

I took a trike to the perimeter clubs during the day with no problems.

I never felt overrun with Koreans.

2 girls willing to go BBFS. Nope!

2 girls wanted a foreign baby and asked me if I was willing. Uhhhhh. No thanks.

Negatives:

Had 1 super star girl from Atlantis tell me 'No' that she had mens. Not sure if true. But she did not seem interested in BF'ing. Too bad. She was a hottie.

Had an afternoon girl (very cute 7) from Geckos say 'No' she had men. I know the mamasan forever and had her check. Yep. Sure enough. She had mens. No harm. No foul.

Had an afternoon girl 7/8 from Viking tell me she only goes with Koreans. Waitress friend told me it is true. She is afraid of a foreigner's big dick.

Summary:

Go to AC and enjoy. I visited several more clubs but did not spot any of interest to me. Maybe the best were already gone. The girls do tell me I am very handsome and waitresses and mamasan's will tell the girls I am a nice guy. That can help. Still not sure why other posters have not had good luck.

I enjoyed 7 hot girls in 5 days. The overnights hugged me all night long. Enjoyed seeing so many friends I have known. All in all a great time. So I am planning to return again next year.

Great Report AsianLover. I like your style of hitting the bars you like often and sampling an assortment of the talent within. I remember hooking up with some very sexy cultural dancers & black dress dancers in Golden Nile on my last couple of visits. It was my favorite AC bar. I liked it much better than Doll House or Atlantis where the atmosphere seemed more artificial and contrived, especially Atlantis. I am glad to hear Club RA has still got the talent. Can you tell me more about Club XS? Is it in the same building different floor? What if anything differentiates it from Club RA?

And lastly, so 2 girls wanted to have your baby. That's funny! Just what a punter wants to hear. LOL.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1947847]Great Report AsianLover. I like your style of hitting the bars you like often and sampling an assortment of the talent within. I remember hooking up with some very sexy cultural dancers & black dress dancers in Golden Nile on my last couple of visits. It was my favorite AC bar. I liked it much better than Doll House or Atlantis where the atmosphere seemed more artificial and contrived, especially Atlantis. I am glad to hear Club RA has still got the talent. Can you tell me more about Club XS? Is it in the same building different floor? What if anything differentiates it from Club RA?

And lastly, so 2 girls wanted to have your baby. That's funny! Just what a punter wants to hear. LOL.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your post.

As you have not visited Angeles in few years then those girls in the black dresses are probably grandmothers now LOL and golden nile bar is a shadow of its former self IMHO.

As far as Atlantis bar I would have to totally disagree with you, I would say it has the best atmosphere with the best looking girls of any bar in Angeles.

No it is not wall to wall stunners but when compared to the type of girls most other Angeles bars are employing then without a doubt Atlantis tries very hard to employ what talent is available.

Thanks for your opinions.

Have to fully agree that the better looking girls are making excuses not to barfine.

The main reason for this is unfortunately many Asian punters are in most top bars having a few drinks with friends, talking business deals, discussing their short golf tour etc with the added bonus of having girls to serve / sit with them while they talk, fucking is not their main concern, these guys think nothing of buying many high commission lady drinks and leaving empty handed hence the better looking girls get the princess syndrome and do very nicely indeed without having to fuck anyone.

You are fully correct that recently score birds has started at 2 pm for anyone wanting to try this out, girls were poor on my last visit but not a bad way to kill a few hours chatting to fellow mongers over few beers in the afternoon.

Have always avoided the massage girls on the streets with the business cards, most look of dubious age so would not take the risk due to the severe penalties involved if set up.

You made the right choice on the 30 year old with 3 kids, might have had to tie a plank across your ass in case you fell in had you relented LOL.

[QUOTE=Sammon;1944439]Good advice. To add to this there is no sure fire way to have a guaranteed good time in AC. Individual experiences vary. Take good with the bad. There are plenty of girls to go around. If you are not watching your pennies you will have a good time. AC although comparatively inexpensive still need to spend to have a good time. Gone are the days when you barfine, no tip, girl stays with you till morning, gives you as many pops you like, totally GFE etc. Even though I visit AC for a couple days (old habits never die) rarely barfine anybody. Usually I will have a dating site girl with me. But for adult Disneyland AC fits the bill. No age barrier, sex rules, do not feel out of place.

By contrast Thai girls generally do fulfill their obligations once you barfine them in my opinion.[/QUOTE]What I like to do is take a girl in the afternoon from one of the perimeter bars. Since I always stay at the Clarkton hotel while in AC its almost always a girl from MIRRORS (Open 3 pm) LIA, Roadies or After School (12 pm). Looks matter a bit (Not taking a ugly girl just something cute not to fat or to skinny) however attitude is better for this girl then looks. Since the Fields bars don't get hopping till at least 8-9 pm. Its nice to hang out with attitude girl for the remaining of the after noon swimming maybe a nap. I take the girl for 2 nights and double pay her EWR one for that night then one for the next night. Sometimes I waste the 2nd day but most of the time I get a 2 day deal. This girl now becomes my barhopping buddy. If I really like her I can do a revisit on her at a later date sometimes I do sometimes I don't. Why I take the 2 day deal is You can't hit more then half the fields bars on a night of barhopping IMO there are just to many of them to check out. So I usual divide them up.

OK so you get one of those little note pads that can fit in your back pocket easily and a pen. You then go into each bar with your barhopping buddy and have a sit near the stage. Order a drink for you and her. She will be charged regular rates for her drinks so you save tons on LDs. She will also allow you to scout the place without the hassle from the waitresses or the dancers to by them drinks. Basically they think she's your girlfriend so they don't bother you. It usually takes 10 -20 minutes for a medium sized bar and 20-30 minutes for a mega bar to see almost all the girls the bar has to offer. You then write the numbers down of the girls from that bar so you revisit them later in your trip. By the end of the 2 nights you could have numbers for 40-60 different girls from about all almost all the bars on fields. What this allows you to do is revisit bars that had the better selection girls and not waste time on the bars that didn't have anything you liked. You revisit you note pad and plan out your alone barhop looking for the girls you already thought were the best. Since you have there numbers already you will not waste time sitting with girls you really don't like or staying in that bar if the girl is already gone just hop to the next place The only problem with this is you can never get to all the girls you wanted and you leave after your vacation wishing you could have got to a few you didn't. To many girls not enough time.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;1944895]You will have plenty of time on your hands in AC and it's always a struggle to find stuff to do when you are (a) not banging a girl and (b) not sleeping. Massage is always an option and can kill a couple of hours a day. Here is a list of massage options in AC. This is not exhaustive. As you all know, AC is a morally corrupt bubble, so almost anything can be negotiated. You will not offend anyone by asking.

1. Street Massage Girls.

About 18-months ago, groups of street massage girls wearing coloured scrubs would congregate at about 7. 00 pm just at the entry to Walking Street. Their modus operandi would be to hook a potential punter at the Walking Street entrance before he actually got to the bars. This was kind of smart, but was bad business for the bar owners. So the bar owners drove them away from Walking Street and now they hang out looking for customers outside Phillies Bar and Grill on Fields Avenue. In the process (to attract less attention from bar owners), they've lost the nurses scrubs and just wear normal street clothes. These girls have no massage skills whatsoever. They are just hookers. The "massage fee" is around 300 PHP per hour and this is the price to get the girl into your room. She will give a portion of this initial fee to her pimpette who will be hanging around at the pick up spot. Once in the room, its sex as usual and BBBJ, CIM, FS etc can and will be provided. There's no set fee for the sex. Just negotiate in the 1500 - 2000 PHP range. One massage girl told me she can earn a lot more than a bar girl for a lot less effort. Its ST only, she doesn't need to dance and can go home after she has pulled a couple of tricks a night. These girls aren't subject to the normal weekly "hygiene test", so using a condom would be a good idea.

2. Legitimate Massage.

There are few legitimate massage places in AC. There's a couple on Fields Avenue (one is near the supermarket) and few in the side streets off Fields. These places usually have nice colourful pictures of people being massaged on the front window and there is the ubiquitous hot stone massage picture. The girls inside all wear uniforms and have been trained in proper massage. They will get the punter to don a pair of boxer shorts or will cover the guy with a towel during the massage. There is only a curtain separating each massage cubicle. I have asked for extras and have been refused with a "sorry Sir, we don't do that". Price is around 300 PHP and I usually tip 100 PHP. These girls will also travel to your hotel room. You might be able to coerce some into extras at your room, but it is not guaranteed.

3. Semi Legitimate Massage.

These places provide a good massage service, but extras are always available if you ask. The massage girls are almost always middle aged MILFS and they don't wear uniforms. In the shop, they will provide BBBJ and HJ. At your room, you can ask for anything. The fee for massage will be around 300-400. Just negotiate the rest. An example of this is Star Massage on Fields Avenue. It's in the second bunch of shops down from the jeep terminal (heading towards Walking Street on the left). Every girl here is up for action. There is a smoking hot MILF at Star Massage called Mavi, who also works as a waitress at Eruptions. She might even pass Mr Slapper's taste test. I was going to do her, but just ran out of time. If you like a particular MILF at these type of places, you can also pay the EWR fee to her boss and take her for the day (it's like a bar fine, but equal to 4 massages). It's up to you what you do with her. Just give her a good tip at the end as her boss will keep most of the EWR. I've previously done this with Maricel at Star Massage a couple of times and it was an awesome GFE.

Another example of this type of massage place is Hanna and Grace Massage just down the side street from Phillies Bar. Those MILFs will do anything!

4. Hotel Massage.

All hotels provide a massage service. Sometimes the massage girls works for the hotel as employees and sometimes the hotel will outsource the service and will clip her ticket. Once the girl is in your room, you may ask what else is on the menu. I've never tried a hotel provided massage, so can't comment.

5. Korean Massage.

There are quite a few K-massage places in AC (surprise surprise). They are located in streets off Fields and there is also one near Jollibees. Just look for the Korean writing. Korea Town also has lots of them. I've also seen a few near the upper Perimeter bars. I've never been in one, so can't comment.[/QUOTE]Now this is information I can use.

AL2,

Just to clarify a point on your observations. You said 2 girls willing to go BBFS without condom. Nope! Does that mean only 2 of seven were willing to screw without a rubber or you refused or what? It used to be that condoms were rarely an issue and were pretty much up to the customer and indeed had to be insisted upon on occasion (if you were that type of concerned guy of course). Have things changed that much? 5 of 7 insisted on a rubber? I will probably be castigated by the membership but one of the reasons I still go to the PI is because I hate the things and can (could?) still get laid without them.

Southeaster.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1947847]Great Report AsianLover. I like your style of hitting the bars you like often and sampling an assortment of the talent within. I remember hooking up with some very sexy cultural dancers & black dress dancers in Golden Nile on my last couple of visits. It was my favorite AC bar. I liked it much better than Doll House or Atlantis where the atmosphere seemed more artificial and contrived, especially Atlantis. I am glad to hear Club RA has still got the talent. Can you tell me more about Club XS? Is it in the same building different floor? What if anything differentiates it from Club RA?

And lastly, so 2 girls wanted to have your baby. That's funny! Just what a punter wants to hear. LOL.[/QUOTE]Club XS is across the street from Kokomos. Was formally club Forbidden City. Seating is more stadium like than Club Ra as you walk down toward stage. I prefer Club Ra over Atlantis too as I can get a better view of all the talent. As far as sampling talent within 1 club, it can pay off. Believe me when I say more girls talk about their barfines with each other than we do. Being a 'good boom boom' , treating a girl like a true girlfriend and giving a decent tip will pay off in spades when asking the other girls to go out. When returning to a club I get my barfined girls all telling me "Oh honey ko, barfine me, I go with you again, OK? Or even better. They will recommend a girlfriend that wants to meet me.

To answer how much I tipped? I tipped trike money and 1000 P for all the girls except the 8.5/9. I gave her 1500 P + trike.

Also, this was my first visit that I only had 1 girl at a time. Must be getting old.

[QUOTE=AsianLover2;1947811]I have visited AC 45 times from 2003 to 2013. After a 3 year hiatus, I decided to stop by for 5 days after being in Bali for a week. I have been reading all the negative reports posted here about Koreans taking over the bars. The girls only going with Koreans. The girls only wanting short time. Just a lot of Joli-bellies dancing now. The very poor attitudes, Etc. Etc. Etc.

Since I remember the 'How it was' and now know 'How it is' I will give you my trip experience.

Positives:

Day 1- BF'the a 7 from Viking for the afternoon. 3000 P. Very GFE. Had her leave at 7 pm.

-BF'the an 8 from Club RA (formerly Golden Nile). 3000 P. Very GFE. Stayed all night.

Day 2-BF'the a 7 from Pony Tails for the afternoon. 3000 P. Very GFE and stayed until I asked her to leave about 7 pm.

-BF'the a 7 from Club RA. 3000 P. Very GFE and stayed all night and had breakfast in the morning. Left about 10 am.

Day 3- BF'the an 8 from Pony Tails for afternoon. 3000 P. Very GFE and kept her all night for free. Spent the next day with her and sent her home 6 pm.

Day 4- BF'the an 8 from Club Ra. 3000 P. Very GFE, Stayed all night and had breakfast with me.

Day 5- BF's a solid 8. 5/9 from Club XS (sister club to Club Ra) 3500 P (I think). Very GFE and stayed all night. I would have kept her a couple of days if I had more time.

I took a trike to the perimeter clubs during the day with no problems.

I never felt overrun with Koreans.

2 girls willing to go BBFS. Nope!

2 girls wanted a foreign baby and asked me if I was willing. Uhhhhh. No thanks.

Negatives:

Had 1 super star girl from Atlantis tell me 'No' that she had mens. Not sure if true. But she did not seem interested in BF'ing. Too bad. She was a hottie.

Had an afternoon girl (very cute 7) from Geckos say 'No' she had men. I know the mamasan forever and had her check. Yep. Sure enough. She had mens. No harm. No foul.

Had an afternoon girl 7/8 from Viking tell me she only goes with Koreans. Waitress friend told me it is true. She is afraid of a foreigner's big dick.

Summary:

Go to AC and enjoy. I visited several more clubs but did not spot any of interest to me. Maybe the best were already gone. The girls do tell me I am very handsome and waitresses and mamasan's will tell the girls I am a nice guy. That can help. Still not sure why other posters have not had good luck.

I enjoyed 7 hot girls in 5 days. The overnights hugged me all night long. Enjoyed seeing so many friends I have known. All in all a great time. So I am planning to return again next year.[/QUOTE]Good summary. I am sure paying 3000 P makes you a nice handsome guy. A recent posting by another referred to giving 1000 P tips. There are bargirls giving really open sincere podcasts on their lives as bargirls on Youtube. Although there are exceptions, do not lose sight that money really does make one very handsome and nice!!

[QUOTE=Fastpiston;1948232]Good summary. I am sure paying 3000 P makes you a nice handsome guy. A recent posting by another referred to giving 1000 P tips. There are bargirls giving really open sincere podcasts on their lives as bargirls on Youtube. Although there are exceptions, do not lose sight that money really does make one very handsome and nice!![/QUOTE]Maybe I should have mentioned I tip for performance. GFE earns the 1000 P tip. Moreover, I have had many girls meet me outside the clubs for free. I treat the girls I am with like a girlfriend. $82 for an all night date with a beautiful Pinay for me is hardly overspending. I can remember paying 500 P BF's. And I was still 'handsome' then! LOL.

However, Now I am willing to pay the going rate for a girl that looks good to me.

But I understand everyone has a budget.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;1947928]AL2,

Just to clarify a point on your observations. You said 2 girls willing to go BBFS without condom. Nope! Does that mean only 2 of seven were willing to screw without a rubber or you refused or what? It used to be that condoms were rarely an issue and were pretty much up to the customer and indeed had to be insisted upon on occasion (if you were that type of concerned guy of course). Have things changed that much? 5 of 7 insisted on a rubber? I will probably be castigated by the membership but one of the reasons I still go to the PI is because I hate the things and can (could?) still get laid without them.

Southeaster.[/QUOTE]To answer your question, 5 of the 7 asked if I had a condom before we were about to 'do it'. I did not push it with those girls as I use a condom. The other 2 either opened up or rolled sideways for a BB session.

Now in the past, I have taken girls to other PI resort areas. Before the trips, I took them to the local medical facility and paid about $80 I (I think) to have them tested for everything (AIDS test was not available). Then I took a chance and did not pack any condoms.

I remember years ago the DOLLHOUSE had a blowjob video some of the girls told me they watch to learn the trade. This visit one girl who asked about using a condom told me they showed them a video of diseased TiTi's and Puki's. So maybe some of the girls are getting educated as to the risks.

With that said, I am sure you can find girls willing to go BB if that is a chance you are willing to take.

[QUOTE=Fastpiston;1948232]Good summary. I am sure paying 3000 P makes you a nice handsome guy. A recent posting by another referred to giving 1000 P tips. There are bargirls giving really open sincere podcasts on their lives as bargirls on Youtube. Although there are exceptions, do not lose sight that money really does make one very handsome and nice!![/QUOTE]Maybe I should have written I tip for performance. A GFE with an all night stay gets 1000 P. The 1500 P tip I paid was for a real beauty and the best sex I had all week. I plan on spending a few days with her on my next visit.

I am sure you are aware that some of those YOUTUBE videos are another way of getting some poor sensitive guy to send money. I know girls that are on several dating websites and a video trolling for money.

[QUOTE=Fastpiston;1948232]Good summary. I am sure paying 3000 P makes you a nice handsome guy. A recent posting by another referred to giving 1000 P tips. There are bargirls giving really open sincere podcasts on their lives as bargirls on Youtube. Although there are exceptions, do not lose sight that money really does make one very handsome and nice!![/QUOTE]Have to fully agree with you Fastpiston.

Funny how some guys on monger boards have an ego so large that they lose sight that none of them could get laid by a prostitute without large payment.

They call prostitutes, dates, girlfriends, they claim she genuinely likes me, she calls me handsome, she cuddles me, she tells me I'm a great lover, she tells her friends how great I am.

Some even want this board to believe prostitutes give them totally free sex because of how handsome / great they are.

Learning to speak / understand the local language would have the same fellows jumping off the 14 floor if they could understand what is really being said by these girls to friends about them.

As you have pointed out many prostitutes talking frankly about their punters on line and it is not at all kind LOL.

[QUOTE=AsianLover2;1948260]Maybe I should have written I tip for performance. A GFE with an all night stay gets 1000 P. The 1500 P tip I paid was for a real beauty and the best sex I had all week. I plan on spending a few days with her on my next visit.

I am sure you are aware that some of those YOUTUBE videos are another way of getting some poor sensitive guy to send money. I know girls that are on several dating websites and a video trolling for money.[/QUOTE]Just my opinion, but I truly think you are overtipping. Sure, its great to have GFE, but I get that and often tip 500 p and never more than that. They ALWAYS WANTED ME AGAIN. Remember its just not the tips they like, but the main factor is you are also good to the girls, giving them the BFE= BoyFriendEffect. They have already made enough money (based on PI wage scale) from the BF alone that will keep them happy for awhile.

--IMO.

Cheers.