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From your lips to God's ears, let's hope you are right.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3033158]Thank you for taking the time to at least explain your point rather than spew insults.
20-30 million illegal immigrants is still a massive political influence even if they cannot vote. It is almost 10% of the total population. In a two party system, it is almost "rigging" elections if you have 20-30 million people strongly supporting one side, even if they can't vote.
And there are currently paths to legal status for illegal immigrants through asylum claims or marriage.
Illegal immigrants who have children born here would be citizens. A whole generation could be born, which again could sway elections for years to come.
Democrats once in power could create new laws to offer more social services, such as healthcare, or even legal voting status for illegal immigrants..[/QUOTE]There is zero evidence that an increase in immigration, asylum-seeking USA Constitutionaly-protected, legal, undocumented, illegal or not yet declared legal, on their way to being documented and legal, anchor-baby facilitated, you name it, is bad for America, its economy, crime levels or anything else.
On the contrary, there is overwhelming, abundant, repeatedly researched and inarguably concluded evidence that it is very good for America.
That is why Joe Biden"s immigration policies and stewardship are cited as a critical factor in his historically positive recovery from Trump's Pandemic, producing better economic results, faster, stronger, with less inflation, certainly far more jobs created and for USA Citizens than any other major country that foolishly closed their borders during the recovery and with the added bonus of Biden's policies lowering the crime rate that had skyrocketed under Trump on his way to creating the Envy of the World Economy that he and Harris handed Trump on a silver platter but that Trump as usual is trying to turn into shit before he kills it.
[B]How immigrants are helping keep job growth hot while inflation cools.
June 17, 2024[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/17/immigrants-help-economy-job-growth-inflation.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
[QUOTE]Immigration has helped the U.S. job market sustain a fiery run in recent months without reigniting inflation, economists and analysts say.
The U.S. economy added a whopping 272,000 jobs in May, but the consumer price index was unchanged.
This dynamic a hot job market and cooling inflation is in part the result of increased inflows of immigrants.
Recent spikes in immigration at the southern border and elsewhere in the U.S. have helped keep the labor pool full even as job gains kept apace.[/QUOTE]By stark contrast, Trump's border closure policy and stewardship along with his mission to keep America safe from low-cost, low-income, tax-paying, resource-denied nail salon technicians, farm workers, construction workers and gardeners will most certainly be cited as critical factors in his ongoing economic decline, terrible jobs creation numbers and very likely increased crime rates wherever he has not illegally deployed armed military. And possibly even there.
And on your prediction that when immigrants become USA Citizens by any of the legal means available to them they will vote for economy-improving, economy-expanding, crime rate-reducing and historic jobs-creating Democrats instead of Great Depression / Great Recession-creating, crime rate-spiking and historic jobs-destroying Republicans, well, damn, I for one sure as hell hope you are right about that.
More digital diarrhea from ISGs Tokyo Rose
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3033195]There is zero evidence that an increase in immigration, asylum-seeking USA Constitutionaly-protected, legal, undocumented, illegal or not yet declared legal, on their way to being documented and legal, anchor-baby facilitated, you name it, is bad for America, its economy, crime levels or anything else.
On the contrary, there is overwhelming, abundant, repeatedly researched and inarguably concluded evidence that it is very good for America.
That is why Joe Biden"s immigration policies and stewardship are cited as a critical factor in his historically positive recovery from Trump's Pandemic, producing better economic results, faster, stronger, with less inflation, certainly far more jobs created and for USA Citizens than any other major country that foolishly closed their borders during the recovery and with the added bonus of Biden's policies lowering the crime rate that had skyrocketed under Trump on his way to creating the Envy of the World Economy that he and Harris handed Trump on a silver platter but that Trump as usual is trying to turn into shit before he kills it.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/pre-viral/2025/10/21/report-texas-finds-thousands-of-illegal-immigrants-registered-on-state-voter-rolls/[/URL]
[URL]https://nypost.com/2024/08/24/opinion/democrats-handwave-the-real-election-threat-illegal-migrants-voting/[/URL]
Why aren't you rubes discussing how the Democrats are also stuffing red states with all these illegal aliens to run up their numbers in the Census when they get assigned House members.
40 million illegal aliens at 500,000 per house member is approx 80 fucking house seats.
Just look at California and how many house seats they get!
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Do you ever have anything except an unsupported opinion about these things?
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3033313]Your are way incorrect. Crime rates at historic highs. How many fentanyl deaths in last 5 years? Border was a disaster under Biden and must be secured.
And again. Race has nothing to do with this, this has to do with money and safety and race should never be brought into it.[/QUOTE]If you ever have anything except an unsupported opinion about these things, please post a link to it.
Otherwise, my links showing virtually zero economic downside and obvious positive economic upside to Biden's border policies and stewardship vs Trump's prove me right, as usual, and you very wrong, as usual.
And here is the refutation of your very wrong unsupported opinion about the crime rate under Biden vs Trump, for which I could post many credible report links and have previously but I generally just go with the ones that don't require a subscription to access:
[B]What we know about the increase in U.S. murders in 2020.
Jan. 27, 2021[/B]
[URL]https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/10/27/what-we-know-about-the-increase-in-u-s-murders-in-2020/[/URL]
[B]Why did U.S. homicides spike in 2020 and then decline rapidly in 2023 and 2024?
Dec. 16, 2024[/B]
[URL]https://www.brookings.edu/articles/why-did-u-s-homicides-spike-in-2020-and-then-decline-rapidly-in-2023-and-2024/[/URL]
[B]FBI report disproves Trumps claim of a Biden-era out-of-control crime wave.
Annual figures released Tuesday reflect a 4.5% year-on-year decrease in all violent crime nationally in 2024.
Aug. 6, 2025[/B]
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/06/fbi-report-trump-biden-crime-wave[/URL]
When do the MAGA Brownshirts get to the millions of illegal white immigrants?
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3033313]Your are way incorrect. Crime rates at historic highs. How many fentanyl deaths in last 5 years? Border was a disaster under Biden and must be secured.
And again. Race has nothing to do with this, this has to do with money and safety and race should never be brought into it.[/QUOTE]Race as everything to do with it!
Want to tell that lie, to your MAGA Fuhrer's Brownshirts (ICE) as, they ONLY seem to mostly target the Latino community and other people of color. When are they going to arrest, face plant and deport, the millions of illegal white immigrants or visa violators?
Electrostate vs. Petrostate: Is fossil fuel baseload "functionally extinct"?
New research article on fossil fuel baseload power, explains why baseload power is "functionally extinct", and has wrecked the business model of baseload generators, given the rise of renewables like rooftop solar and batteries, in Australia.
[LIST][i][b]Baseload power is functionally extinct[/b], Apr 22, 2025.
"Baseload power is considered functionally extinct because the rise of renewable energy sources like solar and wind has made traditional baseload generators, such as coal and nuclear, increasingly unprofitable and impractical. The energy market is shifting towards a model that relies on flexible, renewable sources paired with energy storage to meet demand. ..."[/i] [URL]https://johnmenadue.com/post/2025/04/baseload-power-is-functionally-extinct/[/URL] -OR- [URL]https://energysystems.anu.edu.au/baseload-power-functionally-extinct[/URL]
By Harry Armstrong-Thawley (PhD Candidate | Energy Systems Researcher).[/LIST]So for the Global South, who are installing solar, wind and batteries at an alarming rate, is proving to be key and pivotal, for a generation that aren't necessarily buying into the [B]fossil fuel baseload myth[/B] for a renewables gird.
The Global South, are skipping the "drill baby drill" and fossil fuel dependence, and directly looking more towards an abundance of greener, cleaner and more flexible energy security, with more renewables and less dirty fossil fuels.
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Set your clock by this one:
[QUOTE=Spidy;3033399][b] When do the MAGA Brownshirts get to the millions of illegal white immigrants?[/b]
Race as everything to do with it!
Want to tell that lie, to your MAGA Fuhrer's Brownshirts (ICE) as, they ONLY seem to mostly target the Latino community and other people of color. When are they going to arrest, face plant and deport, the millions of illegal white immigrants or visa violators?[/QUOTE]The answer to your question is; about the same time a Trump ally rather than a critic gets indicted by Trump's DOJ for checking an inaccurate but not illegal box on a mortgage loan form and when Trump sends armed military into the highest crime rate Red cities and Red states.
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Dems surge in Party Identication
Of course, as everyone knows, this is not really happening, can't be happening, because Repub MAGAs are winners. Always. Even when they lose special elections they insist that is "what winning looks like". For them.
You know, the Dem Party "is disappearing. It will go away without a vaccine" just like Trump assured us was happening with his Trump's Pandemic virus. Even as it was marching forward to kill at least a million Americans so far, virtually all of whom were convinced by conman Trump not to bother getting the vaccine.
But it is still interesting:
[B]CNNs Data Guru Stunned by Shocking Swing to Dems Before Midterms.
Oct. 21, 2025[/B]
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/cnn-data-guru-stunned-shocking-161428994.html[/URL]
[QUOTE]Gallups party ID polling asks voters to self-report whether they consider themselves Republicans or Democrats. The third-quarter data found that 48 percent now consider themselves Democrats, compared with 41 percent who identify as Republicans.
In the previous quarter, there was only a 3-point difference between those who identified as Democrats (46 percent) or Republicans (43 percent), with the two parties tied at 45 percent each in the first quarter of 2025.
"Last year, going into the 2024 presidential election, that was the rare time in which Republicans actually held a lead in Gallups party ID measure," Enten said. "That Republican lead is no more. Adios amigos, eliminated."
..........
Enten noted that during the same period leading up to the 2018 midterms, when Democrats went on to achieve a net gain of 41 seats in the House, the party had just a 4-point lead in Gallups party ID poll.
The results just over a year before the 2022 midterms, when the GOP failed to deliver the predicted red wave, showed Democrats ahead by only one point.
"They're actually doing better at this point than they were doing during the 2018 cycle," Enten said. "At this particular point, what you're seeing is Democrats doing considerably, considerably better than they did back in the 2022 midterm cycle. And more than that, Democrats have been gaining throughout this year compared to what we saw back in 2021."[/QUOTE]Then again, we must assume neither Gallup nor CNN is factoring in legitimate USA Citizen voters in big Blue Cities and Blue States being tackled to the ground, zip-tied and carted off to jail by armed military, purely by accident of course, while peacefully on their way to a ballot drop box in the days before and on election day and certainly on their way to their polling places on election day.
And that might put a little extra Trump-directed winning Repub MAGA spin on the Repub MAGA winners' ball. As planned.
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He knows more about everything he knows nothing about more than anyone. Don'cha know.
Where to begin.
[B]Trump says USA Cattle ranchers 'don't understand' tariffs, must lower prices.[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/22/trump-ranchers-beef-tariffs-argentina.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
[QUOTE]President Donald Trump said U.S. cattle ranchers dont understand how they have benefitted from his tariffs.
They also have to get their prices down, because the consumer is a very big factor in my thinking, also! Trump wrote on Truth Social.
Some ranchers and Republican lawmakers have openly criticized Trumps proposal to import beef from Argentina in order to bring down prices for American consumers.
National Cattlemens Beef Association CEO Colin Woodall said that his organization cannot stand behind the President while he undercuts the future of family farmers and ranchers.[/QUOTE]And here is his typical Repub MAGA unsupported opinion that flies in the face of all available data, evidence, facts and easily observable reality that proves it:
[URL]https://youtu.be/49kG7HfD-oM?si=TJX8rbUJB5z5vukF[/URL]
Will America ever be Ronald Reagan's 'Shining City Upon a Hill'?
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3033158]Thank you for taking the time to at least explain your point rather than spew insults.[/QUOTE]A bit disingenuous. Don't you think?
I mean, When did you last "thank" and berated MDS1 or Elvis 2008 for not spewing insults, when they responded to a question?
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3033158]20-30 million illegal immigrants is still a massive political influence even if they cannot vote. It is almost 10% of the total population. In a two party system, it is almost "rigging" elections if you have 20-30 million people strongly supporting one side, even if they can't vote.[/QUOTE]My understanding, is that most illegal immigrants, try to keep their heads down, don't bring attention to themselves and tend not to make waves, for fear of being ICE'd and deported.
So please explain how this [B]massive political influence[/B] from these millions of illegal immigrants, occurs enough to sway an election? BTW, any evidence to backup these wild claims? Or is it just your so called opinion?
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3033158]And there are currently paths to legal status for illegal immigrants through asylum claims or marriage. Illegal immigrants who have children born here would be citizens. A whole generation could be born, which again could sway elections for years to come.
Democrats once in power could create new laws to offer more social services, such as healthcare, or even legal voting status for illegal immigrants.[/QUOTE][NOPARSE]Once you're a U.S. Citizen, there is NO GUARANTEE which way naturalized citizen's will vote. Oddly enough, Ronald Reagan, would disagree on the immigrants vote.[/NOPARSE]
But doesn't your so the results from the recent 2024 elections, that fly in the face of your wild assumptions, since more Latinos and other people of color got suckered into voting for your for your MAGA Fuhrer?
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3033158]Again, this has nothing to do with race, it is just common sense that so many illegal immigrants entering one country so rapidly is not good for the country and could sway elections drastically for generations to come.
I think a good solution would be to get illegal immigrants legal status with the understanding, them and their children can never vote or receive well fare / social services they have not paid into, and if you break the law, your gone no questions asked, no costly court date. Just my two cents. [/QUOTE][NOPARSE]I beg to differ!...Once you're a taxpaying U.S. Citizen, you should be afforded every means, under The Declaration, The U.S. Constitution and The Bill of Rights.
Besides I think in practice these "carve-out exceptions" are extremely difficult to implement in practice and only serve to sew division and create second-class or two-tier U.S. Citizenship, with taxation without representation.[/NOPARSE]
[U]Race has EVERYTHING to do with it...according QAnon/MAGA doctrine:[/U]
Okay, I think it's commendable you say, [I][b]"...race should never be brought into it"[/b][/I][NOPARSE] and of course you'd be right. However reality and the real-world, your QAnon/MAGA/Repubs political party, paint a totally different picture! [/NOPARSE].
[NOPARSE]In reality, your MAGA Fuhrer may preach and openly tell you "...it's about money..." (as they siphon taxpayers money and pick your pockets), but secretly, the QAnon/MAGA/Repubs ideology, dogma and dog whistles, tell you that, [/NOPARSE][I][b]you should fear the "Browning of America"[/b][/I].
Remember, it was (to his credit) [I][b]Repub Ronald Reagan's famous "ode to immigration"[/b][/I] rhetoric framed immigrants as aspirational, freedom-seeking assets. [I](Note: He's been mostly correct on that front).[/I] he saw them as future Republicans, people fleeing government control and embracing American ideals of self-reliance. His "shining city upon a hill" was populated by people from all over the world who chose to come to America.
Again, note [I][b]Reagan saw immigrants as "future Republicans."[/b][/I] [NOPARSE]So fast forward to present day, and the QAnon/MAGA/Repub Conservatives, have drummed up a race campaign and nationalist anxiety, to stop this (Ronald Reagan) "Browning of America", as the inevitable changing demographics in American, loom large.[/NOPARSE].
The browning of America, projected to make white Americans a minority later this century, [I][b]has triggered a politics of racial and cultural preservation[/b][/I] [NOPARSE]for a right-wing QAnon/MAGA segment of the electorate. The optimistic, color-blind assimilation Reagan preached has been replaced by a fear of demographic displacement.[/NOPARSE].
So while "race" should have nothing to do with it, unfortunately nothing could be further from the truth, according to your MAGA Fuhrer and party politics.
Oh, in advance, "thank you", for not spewing insults!
