Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2737031]Thailand broke new ground to attract tourism money that nobody thought possible just a couple of years ago now that people are buying all forms of smoke-able and edible cannibis from trucks, shops and tables popping up everywhere on the busiest streets and sidewalks at ground zero for Thai tourism.

How about breaking new ground on the sexual play for pay front by adding BBFS, BBFS+CIP and BBBJ+CIM+Swallow explicitly on the menu?

Ok, maybe require a recent (within 2 weeks?) HIV / STD test result document be shown in order to book it similar to the "Cannabis For Medical Reasons" qualifier.

What else could possibly matter and make as big a difference at a so-called and supposedly PSE or GFE sex shop? New curtains and a thicker mattress on the cots?[/QUOTE]I know it is like kissing your sister, but man up and weigh the overall risks to the industry and everyone else, at best you'd get the government involved or some NGO starting a union to protect the sex workers and BOOM! Talk about inflation.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2736952]Here's a short story I wrote from my Winter 2018 visit to La Bella. It's a soapy massage or high end brothel in Bangkok. Personally, I didn't find anyone at GoGo Bars or Doki Doki to my liking but I thought this place was great. If you know anything like it or places similar let me know.[/QUOTE]Nice report! You mean La Belle?

[QUOTE=TConor;2737352][b]BBFS, BBFS + CIP is not the healthy way to go[/b]
I know it is like kissing your sister, but man up and weigh the overall risks to the industry and everyone else, at best you'd get the government involved or some NGO starting a union to protect the sex workers and BOOM! Talk about inflation.[/QUOTE]I didn't realize women engaging in sex for money with strangers was all about good health habits.

Where does smoking openly sold weed and drinking openly sold booze in the midst of fellow high flying motorcycle, car, bus and truck drivers fall on the list of healthy habits to adopt?

Did some light RTFF, first trip since 2018. Good to see my regular places like Tulip, Mango and addict are still operating. Does anyone happen to know if Can Cam (not sure if that's the correct spelling) is still around? I'm pretty sure they used to have a website but there seems to be no recent info on the place.

I have been a loyal customer of SW. If they can maintain same service level, I will travel to BKK just to experience their service again. Earlier the better.

[QUOTE=AssLover945;2736457]The owner of now shuttered Snowwhite is looking for a venue to reopen snowwhite.

She will be scouting for shops around BTS. She said the old location is difficult to get back due to high rent.

Tentatively by year end OR beginning of next year.

She is a bit apprehensive of getting back the business, What do you guys think?

Answer here, I will relay your thoughts to her.[/QUOTE]

I can see how my post might have been interpreted as that business model but I was speaking more generally.

Tulip by staying open and having BBFS girls probably has the market cornered there.

However there might be room for another one I guess.

My bet is there is room for something to replace devils den style threesomes. My point really was to succeed long term after being out for two years she needs to develop a decent hook. She might have to watch some Japanese porn or European porn to get an idea.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2737031]Thailand broke new ground to attract tourism money that nobody thought possible just a couple of years ago now that people are buying all forms of smoke-able and edible cannibis from trucks, shops and tables popping up everywhere on the busiest streets and sidewalks at ground zero for Thai tourism.

How about breaking new ground on the sexual play for pay front by adding BBFS, BBFS+CIP and BBBJ+CIM+Swallow explicitly on the menu?

Ok, maybe require a recent (within 2 weeks?) HIV / STD test result document be shown in order to book it similar to the "Cannabis For Medical Reasons" qualifier.

What else could possibly matter and make as big a difference at a so-called and supposedly PSE or GFE sex shop? New curtains and a thicker mattress on the cots?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Supmam;2737750]I can see how my post might have been interpreted as that business model but I was speaking more generally.

Tulip by staying open and having BBFS girls probably has the market cornered there.

However there might be room for another one I guess.

My bet is there is room for something to replace devils den style threesomes. My point really was to succeed long term after being out for two years she needs to develop a decent hook. She might have to watch some Japanese porn or European porn to get an idea.[/QUOTE]This is a video of a legitimate type of club in Japan. The specialty of the house is a certain kind of double team BBBJ+CIM+Swallow.

Unless it is blocked in one's area, I encourage everyone to settle in for an hour or so to check out how a high level of skill, expertise and understanding of what a Real Blowjob is all about can be sold and delivered, imo.

I am not a fan of the communal room element presented here. But I know some are. I would prefer a private cubicle for me and the ladies.

Yeah, yeah, I know this will trigger a parade of Thai punters who will claim they arrange and get this exact treatment all the time in every Thai BJ Bar, all the way down to the Swallow and following clean up. Really! Every time! LOL. Ok.

But I will go on record saying if any supposed PSE Shop or BJ Bar in Bangkok or Thailand, the potential New and Improved Snow White, for example, provides this particular service officially and clearly on their menu as a standard provided service, I'm there:

[URL]https://m.tnaflix.com/asian-porn/Asian-cum-in-mouth-at-the-club/video401976[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2737451]I didn't realize women engaging in sex for money with strangers was all about good health habits.

Where does smoking openly sold weed and drinking openly sold booze in the midst of fellow high flying motorcycle, car, bus and truck drivers fall on the list of healthy habits to adopt?[/QUOTE]But I fail to see 2 wrongs making a right.

[QUOTE=TConor;2737821]But I fail to see 2 wrongs making a right.[/QUOTE]However, it's only wrong if someone forces a girl to engage in any sex act against her will. Just because something is on a supposedly PSE Shop menu doesn't mean every girl must agree to it with every customer every time. It would be as true of BBFS+CIP as it is for Anal+, Rimming, CIM, COF, DFK, whatever.

If we're really concerned about everyone's health in this hobby, first thing we ought to accept if not demand being scratched off every PSE Shop menu and Escort profile is DFK. Then probably Anal+ after that, even with a condom.

From what I read here, punters are getting no hassle BBFS+CIP all throughout Bangkok and Thailand at rates anywhere from 75% to 100%. So it not appearing routinely on supposedly PSE Shop and Escort Service menus with it up to every girl to opt in or opt out on that offering seems like a rather silly business model oversight.

It's all up to the Snow White folks, of course. Maybe they can rile up more excited customer traffic and keen interest with a Buy 1 Get 1 Club Soda Night every now and then when they re-open.

[QUOTE=AssLover945;2736457]The owner of now shuttered Snowwhite is looking for a venue to reopen snowwhite.

She will be scouting for shops around BTS. She said the old location is difficult to get back due to high rent.

Tentatively by year end OR beginning of next year.

She is a bit apprehensive of getting back the business, What do you guys think?

Answer here, I will relay your thoughts to her.[/QUOTE]Definitely looking forward to it, will go as soon as it opens, as long as she keeps the same old PSE standards. For PSE, we're down to only Tulip right now, all other shops are hit and miss, and at over 2000-2500 baht for 1-2h, I don't like missing. Competition is sorely needed.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2738966]Definitely looking forward to it, will go as soon as it opens, as long as she keeps the same old PSE standards. For PSE, we're down to only Tulip right now, all other shops are hit and miss, and at over 2000-2500 baht for 1-2h, I don't like missing. Competition is sorely needed.[/QUOTE]If went to Tulip on up coming trip, how would it go, what would. Should I expect to get during session, thanks a quick run down would be greatly appreciated, ie: such as CIM, anal, ass eaten and so on!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2737837]However, it's only wrong if someone forces a girl to engage in any sex act against her will. Just because something is on a supposedly PSE Shop menu doesn't mean every girl must agree to it with every customer every time. It would be as true of BBFS+CIP as it is for Anal+, Rimming, CIM, COF, DFK, whatever.

If we're really concerned about everyone's health in this hobby, first thing we ought to accept if not demand being scratched off every PSE Shop menu and Escort profile is DFK. Then probably Anal+ after that, even with a condom.

From what I read here, punters are getting no hassle BBFS+CIP all throughout Bangkok and Thailand at rates anywhere from 75% to 100%. So it not appearing routinely on supposedly PSE Shop and Escort Service menus with it up to every girl to opt in or opt out on that offering seems like a rather silly business model oversight.

It's all up to the Snow White folks, of course. Maybe they can rile up more excited customer traffic and keen interest with a Buy 1 Get 1 Club Soda Night every now and then when they re-open.[/QUOTE]Of course there is risk, but it's about minimizing risk. BBBJ, DFK, DATY, and rimming carry far less risk then uncovered vaginal or anal sex. That's really impossible to debate. Using a condom for these acts not only minimizes your risk but also minimizes the girl's risk and the punter's that come after you. And no I don't think BBFS it's something that should be advertised or promoted. One thing I like about the online environment is that I have yet to come across a gal who would allow BBFS. I don't engage in the practice but I always like to inquire to see where the girl stands on it. CIM is definitely possible but then again that carries far less risk. And another aspect I like is that the local punters are a bit more concerned with their own health and the health of their fellow hobbyists. If a dude is trying to skin it with the gals he runs the risk of being blacklisted by the agents and sorry, I'm quite comfortable with that.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2739055]Of course there is risk, but it's about minimizing risk. BBBJ, DFK, DATY, and rimming carry far less risk then uncovered vaginal or anal sex. That's really impossible to debate. Using a condom for these acts not only minimizes your risk but also minimizes the girl's risk and the punter's that come after you. And no I don't think BBFS it's something that should be advertised or promoted. One thing I like about the online environment is that I have yet to come across a gal who would allow BBFS. I don't engage in the practice but I always like to inquire to see where the girl stands on it. CIM is definitely possible but then again that carries far less risk. And another aspect I like is that the local punters are a bit more concerned with their own health and the health of their fellow hobbyists. If a dude is trying to skin it with the gals he runs the risk of being blacklisted by the agents and sorry, I'm quite comfortable with that.[/QUOTE]I'm perfectly comfortable with that too.

I thought this was about brainstorming what the new money behind a possible reopened Snow White can do to fire up more customer interest and justify reopening the business. It wasn't for me. I have plenty of money for what I need and have so much BBFS+CIP available to me my biggest challenge is scheduling it to maximize my pleasure. Which from what I read is the only challenge most Thai punters have regarding BBFS+CIP.

And for less money and with more attractive girls than the rates paid and the girls I have seen at those supposedly PSE shops.

Virtually every expat and visiting punter I have met over the years is looking for BBFS+CIP and where to buy it from the moment they hit the airport arrival area.

If the Snow White folks want to ignore that reality, can't compete, want to pretend that it isn't something most customers want and leave a ton of money on the table (as well as any and every girl in Snow White refusing to agree to it as his their right), that's their choice and also perfectly fine with me.

If all the so-called PSE shops in Thailand disappeared forever today and never reopened, it would not put a moment's glitch in the steady stream of BBFS+CIP every expat and visiting punter I know is getting from attractive 20's-30's year old girls they meet on TF or Tinder delivered to their door for less than 2,000 baht or perhaps for double that if seen in the flesh first in a gogo bar.

My point is it's going to take some pretty fancy new curtains and cushy new foam mattresses on the cots if Snow White, Tulip, Mango or whatever hope to compete and capture some of that BBFS+CIP trade money being spent everywhere else in town with young ladies who never even heard the term "PSE".

I have been coming to Thailand for over a decade and have met plenty of punters along the way. I have no doubt that there are a ton of guys looking for BBFS and I have partaken myself on the odd drunken night with a gogo girl or two, but to say that everyone is hunting for it all the time and that these girls need to offer it as a standard is madness. The vast majority are practicing safe sex, and it tends to be the older guys or the ladies who struggle for work that are offering it up when someone throws extra money their way. Generally you need to be a regular of the girls, and even then I have to question WTF is wrong with you that you would even want this in the first place.

Who wants to be the 4th or 5th guy that day to stick his dick in a bird working in a knock shop when other guys have been leaving loads in her? Good god man.

You have an odd view that is not shared by most people, especially ones who would prefer to remain healthy.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2739087]Virtually every expat and visiting punter I have met over the years is looking for BBFS+CIP and where to buy it from the moment they hit the airport arrival area.
[/QUOTE]There is no way. I would think less than 10% to 20% do what you do. That is bang every girl without a condom.

Most of us that live in BKK probably have done it occasionally or have a regular that we have known for a while and have stopped bagging up with her.

IMHO 80% or more of punters would avoid BBFS first up due to the risk of a bad health outcome.