Jakarta

[QUOTE=Safado70;2976304]Thanks for checking Fashion Hotel. What time did you go?[/QUOTE]I went around 11.30 pm, had planned to check out Maxwell hotel also today since it is not that far but I am going to rest up today, feeling a bit tired, will check and report back tomorrow.

BTW I contacted Collosseum /1001 via Whatsapp, couldn't get a lot of info. But they told me to check out the 3rd floor which is the spa, will check that out tomorrow too, it is a little far from my hotel but lets see. Maybe I will start a little early, hopefully traffic will be less on weekends. Anybody who has already been to 1001 and has a good know-how of the place, please share the price structure, what to expect once inside, I got one online site which says minimum spend is 1. 7 m ([URL]https://nightlifeasia.wiki/Jakarta[/URL]), money is one thing, another thing is what services / length of time they are available for etc. I can obv. go in blind see what's what but it is a long trip and since I pay only in cash, guidance beforehand will help me go in prepared.

A few days ago I went to 1001. It was after a late afternoon session in Kota Indah. Current price is 1,6 Mio for the local girls. If you don't take a girl, the entrance fee is 200 k. There were almost 100 of them and I was quite impressed. I would rate most of them between 7 and 8.

I was tired and had no intention of taking a girl. I just wanted to get to know the place. I decided just to have a late lunch / early dinner there. I never asked for a "contest" (that's how they call it in Jakarta when they present a group of girls at your table). But my table was close to the fishbowl, and the girls had to pass by when they went to contests at other clients' sofas / tables. I've spent about one hour there, and during the entire time no more than 4 girls were picked by clients. These girls apparently don't get a lot of clients, which might give the clients a better chance of a decent service than what you get from the high volume girls at KI or Classic. Together with the nice ambience this might justify the higher price.

Hi, long time lurker here.

I don't know how people in Classic seem to have mostly good experiences (by reading this forum).

I have been in Classic more than 10 times in the last year, and most of my experiences have been varying levels of bad.

Overall I think I had 2 great experience in Classic, 1-2 ok ones, and about 7-8 bad ones.

The problem is that it is always something different bad next time, so its hard to know what to anticipate.

Some girls would have bad attitude in the room or just be a dead fish, some don't speak any English and then communication in the room becomes super awkward (and usually leads to bad experience), some girls would not want to kiss (which is important for me) despite promising otherwise, some kiss but super weirdly, like opening mouth really wide like a fish, etc.

For example one time in the room one girl in missionary during sex literally locked her arm around my neck using force and would not let me go (which was extremely off-putting). When I finally used a lot of force to pull away and was like WTF? Turned out she had some weird meat lump around her knee area that she didn't want me to see (ironically forcing me down was a lot more off putting than that thing on her knee).

Or the other time I tried a threesome with an ok girl from previous day and her friend which she recommended and I didn't screen properly (big mistake), which turned out to be absolute worst with 2 girls talking loudly with each other the whole time, insisting on swapping condoms in between, and in general very unsexy behavior in the room.

Or just having an attitude in some way, don't do this, don't want to do that, have you finished, etc.

Just today for example I selected a pretty looking girl named Emily which seemed to have a nice attitude, but just was not willing to kiss outside, saying she would kiss in the room.

Yeah right. In the room she was avoiding my face like a plague. But the worst part is that she had some of the most disgusting baby damage I've ever seen. Literally skin on the bottom part of her torso was super wrinkled like an old grandma, and the boobs were the same.

It was almost like a grandma's body with a young face. It was super weird and disgusting. Maybe I just didn't see much baby damage before, I don't know.

At the time though she still had a nice attitude throughout which helped to go along with the deed and finish, but oh my god, in retrospect I wish I could unsee that.

When I read this forum I always wonder how is it that most people seem to have amazing (or at least good) experience in Classic, but I always seem to stumble on bad ones?

Also considering that Classic setup with loud music where you cannot talk, dark lights and lots of smoking already makes it quite an unpleasant experience to begin with.

The value for money and the sheer amount of choice is what keeps me coming back again and again hoping against all odds that it will be good this time (it should be, right? So many girls to choose from), but somehow I mostly end up unsatisfied or unhappy in some way afterwards.

I feel like I now have to prepare a questionnaire or a checklist and thoroughly test potential girl on everything before taking her upstairs: does she speak English, did she have a baby, is she ok to kiss (and then try it with her), see if she is fun to talk with, is there a chemistry between us, are there any red flags, etc.

But when you just want to have some fun, thoroughly testing the girl is the last thing on your mind.

Oh, and don't start me on the tips. Somehow the ones with the worst service want tips the most (and also ask for more that usual).

In terms of other places, I haven't been to that many of them, but I haven't found anything consistently good, especially with a good value for money.

Travel is too dark everywhere except for sofas, so after going there a few times I gave up, as I simply can't see the girls on offer.

I had high hopes for Emporium, but their girls are nothing special in terms of looks (compared to what you may expect by reading this forum) and Classic girls are usually better in that sense.

However the service is much much better at Emporium. But I only been there 2 times, and I had 1 great experience and 1 OK one (which for that kind of money is actually bad), so not enough to be conclusive. And to be honest I am not really looking forward to go back as they don't have pretty girls there.

CJ was fun one time I went there, but I wasn't ready to take anyone that night and it was super cold inside which I did not expect, so didn't stay long. Worth coming back I think, but due to my living situation taking someone for the night is not an option for me.

Will try to reach more northern parts and check out 1001 and Kotah Indah at some point, but due to my location getting there from the south-west is a big commitment.

Just my 2 cents.

P.S. Registering and activating account on this forum seems to be quite a quest too. I wish it was easier to activate your account, as the experience is quite confusing and most email providers don't seem to receive emails from here.

[QUOTE=Safado70;2976375]A few days ago I went to 1001. It was after a late afternoon session in Kota Indah. Current price is 1,6 Mio for the local girls. If you don't take a girl, the entrance fee is 200 k. There were almost 100 of them and I was quite impressed. I would rate most of them between 7 and 8.

I was tired and had no intention of taking a girl. I just wanted to get to know the place. I decided just to have a late lunch / early dinner there. I never asked for a "contest" (that's how they call it in Jakarta when they present a group of girls at your table). But my table was close to the fishbowl, and the girls had to pass by when they went to contests at other clients' sofas / tables. I've spent about one hour there, and during the entire time no more than 4 girls were picked by clients. These girls apparently don't get a lot of clients, which might give the clients a better chance of a decent service than what you get from the high volume girls at KI or Classic. Together with the nice ambience this might justify the higher price.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I believe gathering from earlier posts that the room fee is separate so picking a 1. 6 m girl will actually cost you 1. 9 m as a final cost. Did you get a chance to enquire about the CIS girl prices at 1001?

[QUOTE=ArnoldNe;2976454]Did you get a chance to enquire about the CIS girl prices at 1001?[/QUOTE]I didn't really really pay attention. I think it was more than 3 juta.

[QUOTE=Safado70;2976375]A few days ago I went to 1001. It was after a late afternoon session in Kota Indah. Current price is 1,6 Mio for the local girls. If you don't take a girl, the entrance fee is 200 k. There were almost 100 of them and I was quite impressed. I would rate most of them between 7 and 8.

I was tired and had no intention of taking a girl. I just wanted to get to know the place. I decided just to have a late lunch / early dinner there. I never asked for a "contest" (that's how they call it in Jakarta when they present a group of girls at your table). But my table was close to the fishbowl, and the girls had to pass by when they went to contests at other clients' sofas / tables. I've spent about one hour there, and during the entire time no more than 4 girls were picked by clients. These girls apparently don't get a lot of clients, which might give the clients a better chance of a decent service than what you get from the high volume girls at KI or Classic. Together with the nice ambience this might justify the higher price.[/QUOTE]At what time did you go? I'll visit too and will certainly session provided I can pay by "tap". That's how they call "tap-and-pay" (credit card or Google / Apple Pay). I see next to 1001 there's a place called Collosseum. Is that also a sex venue? Ok, I see it's the alternative name of 1001.

Travel Hotel.

Went here about 5-6 pm and quite surprised there seemed to be only 4 sofas of girls whereas we all know Classic has like 10 sofas in a circle. Strange because last time I visited Travel also had about 10+ sofas in a circle, now it's like a semi-circle or maybe it was too early. I tried to find the dancer that I had last time, she is a normal girl there but she has like a chunky dancer / cheerleader type figure but couldn't find her at all.

Spoke to Mamasan Tina, have to say her girls aren't great. Normal slim types but no-one really stood out.

Then MMS Nur, she said all her girls from Java but they were even worse.

MMS Kelly, chose 2 but then they said no kissing not even if one of the girls kiss the client so I got rid of them.

Finally MMS Titin & I saw this girl with huge boobs walking back to the sofa and just knew I had to take her. Even if she has a bad attitude I just thought wow her knockers are the biggest I've seen on a small girl. I think they were F cups but as it turned her attitude wasn't the best so I chose another girl who did have a better attitude and took both of them. Different to my last visits at Travel both girls joined me in the room at the same time but they seemed to be nattering away as they were best friends apparently. Normally I wouldn't choose girls who are best frds because of this exact reason but her friend was actually cute. But they were super OCD about the hygiene and really used the tissue soaked with listerine very thoroughly everywhere. The big boobed girl was relucatant for me to touch her boobs and avoided coming into the shower, it was only during sex that she let me touch them but they did feel so good. Then after she got me hard with the BJ she suddenly told me to wait, got her phone out using translation and asked me "how long you last during sex"? I was like wtf why ask me that right before we do it and obviously I'm going to go soft if she delays the act after the BJ.

She wasn't great on top but I think she got into it more when I drilled her in mish then reverse spooning when I came squeezing her boobs and sinking my teeth into her neck gently.

But the other girl Nita, it was a disaster. Inexperienced, teeth and nails scratching on my little bro as she was doing the BJ and getting on top when I wasn't hard enough which happened a couple of times. After the 3rd time, she tried to grind in CG but she wasn't very good. Then she got off and gasped as there was a small patch of blood behind her but she said her period definitely over so didn't know where it came from. After a while I just called it off.

On my way to the hotel but first impression of civvies at the airport leaves a lot to be desired. Really below average girls not worth a second look even and this worries me, though it seems too fast to judge. I have exactly 3 days here and 3 days in Bali before a 4 nighter in Pattaya.

I hope Indonesia doesn't disappoint.

[QUOTE=XXL;2976471]At what time did you go? .[/QUOTE]My Grab history says I got there Wednesday at 19:41.

[QUOTE=Safado70;2976500]My Grab history says I got there Wednesday at 19:41.[/QUOTE]What exactly did you expect? A line up of bikini clad models greeting you at the gate?

[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2976499]On my way to the hotel but first impression of civvies at the airport leaves a lot to be desired. Really below average girls not worth a second look even and this worries me, though it seems too fast to judge. I have exactly 3 days here and 3 days in Bali before a 4 nighter in Pattaya.

I hope Indonesia doesn't disappoint.[/QUOTE]Huge difference between Civvies and ones that you will see in the clubs, Civvies I have seen on the streets and other places don't wear too much make up in general and also the Hijab covers them up completely. Disappointment is relative to expectations of course, so go through the thread (unless you already have), that should give you an idea of what to expect.

Personally I haven't come across anyone yet who is very skilled at the act (most are amateurs who wait to see what you do next, others are pros who want to gain a quick buck without putting too much effort. Story that echoes globally these days), but there is a good mix of beauty and differences lie in the scale of what they will allow you to do.

Happy hunting!!

[QUOTE=Astral100;2976440]Hi, long time lurker here.

I don't know how people in Classic seem to have mostly good experiences (by reading this forum).

I have been in Classic more than 10 times in the last year, and most of my experiences have been varying levels of bad.

Overall I think I had 2 great experience in Classic, 1-2 ok ones, and about 7-8 bad ones.
[/QUOTE]If you can accept this without taking offence, with those numbers, I'll say it's not them, it's you.

I'm not sure how many times I was in Classic during my two Jakarta trips so far, but I'm guessing somewhere around 10-15. Even my worst experience, two very mercurial girls in a BBFS, pussy-swapping threesome, was at least ok and left me happy enough, even though I'm fairly sure they said "well, fuck you" to me a few times while we were in bed, and I was thinking the same about them. I don't think I ever had what I'd rate as a bad session at Classic, as I'd not tip for a bad session, and I've tipped after every session at Classic I think.

Reading about your and the other guy's recent experience, I don't think I've just been really lucky and you have just been really unlucky.

What I do is spend a minute, or less, to gauge the girls I find attractive. At Classic, she's standing next to me, maybe standing between my legs as I sit on the bar stool. I speak zero Indonesian unfortunately, but during that one minute I get them smiling or laughing, and treat them more like a normal date that has progressed to the "being close together phase", than a p4p girl. We touch a little, maybe brush lips, etc. If I feel she's indifferent (or worse), I send her away and look for somebody else.

I never get the girl to promise kissing, or anything else* before going to the room with her. If I want to kiss her, I'll kiss her upstairs. If I repulse her so much she doesn't want to do that there and then, she's not going to suddenly start kissing me in the room just because she said she would.

My suggestion: work on getting some rapport with the girl from the time you meet upstairs all the way until you're naked on the bed downstairs. Get her laughing, smiling, hitting you playfully.

My #1 mistake when I started mongering, just a couple of years ago, was not doing that, and getting a lot of bad to so-so experiences in return. I was thinking since they're somebody I'm paying to bang, why should it matter if they like me or not? After I changed that, my experiences greatly improved, and equally importantly, it gave me a way to filter out many girls who would probably have ended up as a bad experience.

*the one exception to this I would make is BBBJ, but since that's the standard at Classic, I don't need to make sure of that, though I did see the report recently from one guy regarding that.

Day 1:

So after a redeye flight, with no sleep and energy reached the hotel around Noon.

Jakarta seems like a dump. I mean it's not a real dump but simply cannot be compared with Bangkok, just my opinion. For some reason I assumed both are similar. The sheer difference in standard of living is unbelievable. It just looks like a decaying inner city neighborhood with graffiti all over and just did not give any good vibes. But other than hotels, just about everything in Bangkok is miles ahead. I don't think I will ever come back here.

Reached the hotel couple of hours earlier but they didn't make me wait and gave the room right away.

Showered, changed clothes and immediately set foot outside and had fried noodles at a mom and pop shop. It was crazy busy being Sunday afternoon and lots of social family lunches and food was average with too much noodles and no meat. But the caramel green tea which I tried for the first time was bloody amazing. So worth the 100 k bill.

Came out and wondered what to do at 2 pm. Opened Google Maps and noticed a few KI bars were open. Randomly chose Sugar. The fucking grab app (similar to what another poster had mentioned, wanted to verify my card again) was useless and I ended up taking the Gojek ride which wasn't bad. Reached the bar and the receptionist immediately guided me to the 2nd floor which was a meeting place with sofas and a bunch of mamasans. This is the first time I am meeting an Indonesian pro so I was worried about the looks. I was pleasantly surprised when I saw a few girls with other customers and they seemed doable though in the dark room it was difficult to see. The mamasan open the tab and showed pictures of the available girls. I basically chose the youngest one and within five minutes she was there and I was relieved to know she indeed was an acceptable girl. Both the mamasan and the girl spoke broken English, enough to communicate. She said she was 25 yrs old and it could be true. No more than 30 for sure.

The rest was just the standard script- a quick shower, lame massage, few positions to finish, shower again and leave.

Couple of things I liked- the girl was very friendly throughout, spent time in the shower before and after together. The bed linen and pillow cover were changed in front of my eyes too.

On my way out, one Asian dude has asked for a lineup it seems and all the girls were paraded in front of him. So I got a chance to see about 8 or so girls. All were decent, mid 20's to mid 30's, lots of makeup, pure white skin and not a single brown colored one, no fatties or grannies, all were average and doable. I would rate then all 5-6's. A lot of them looked more like Thais than Indos, again my noob opinion.

Final bill was 1 M for 1 HR of total time spent from entering to leaving.

650 k for 1 hour, 220 k for drinks I bought for the girl and mamasan since they spent a good amount of time with me chilling on the sofa, plus miscellaneous bull shit tax I guess. I did not tip the girl (and neither did she ask) since the session was just average but it seems they have padded the bill by 100 k or so which I did not mind.

Overall experience - 5/10.

Girls quality - 5/10.

Girl attitude - 7/10.

Will I repeat. No, but if you just wanted to get rid of a boner then yes.

3 things I didn't like:

1) The security procedures were paranoid. They insisted I left my belt bag in a locker, alleging it had a "tali" ie a belt. Did they think I would use it to strangle the girl? After being seated I remembered I had left my sagami condom in my belt bag, so I asked to go down again. They didn't like this at all, hinting there was a 2000 IDR fine every time a customer needed to go down to the locker. Guards with talkie-walkies were everywhere like in a high-security prison. You couldn't open a door or walk ten feet without being ckecked and escorted. What was this all in aid of?

2) Compared to the luxury of the place, the room was disappoinging. It had no mirror and was dark. We fumbled with switches in the hope of conjuring up more light but to no avail. I was paying up to 2 million for this and I felt cheated not to be able to see clearly what I was putting my dick into. There were 2 celing lamps above the bed but the light bulbs were dead. Maybe this room was the one to which they sent customers they didn't want as repeat customers (more of this below).

3) When I asked for 69 the girl warned me BJ had to be covered. I told her in that case to stick to using her hand. To her credit she ended up doing some kind of BBBJ. There was the possibility that covered blowjob was part of the house rules.

On the positive side:

1) The line-up seemed better than Emporium's. Taller girls on average. I was early so the full line-up was perhaps stunning if you came late.

2) I could pay everything by NFC, including the girl's tip. Good as I wanted to hoard my cash.

I'm glad I visited but I won't be back. Too expensive, not so good vibe, unerotic rooms. If you didn't take a girl there was a cover charge of 300k (this included one drink if I remember right). I didn't feel totally welcome and had the impression they wanted me to know they could do without a cheapskate of a bule like me for a customer. After I paid the final bill they refused to give me the receipt from the machine. They said blankly I was not allowed to have the receipt.

P.S. It dawns on me in the old days there was a 1001 club near Stadium. I remember visiting said 1001 and feeling so unwelcome I didn't even ask to see the girls. Afterwards one of my regular girls told me this 1001 near Stadium was not for westerners.

[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2976543]
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Jakarta seems like a dump. I mean it's not a real dump but simply cannot be compared with Bangkok, just my opinion. For some reason I assumed both are similar. The sheer difference in standard of living is unbelievable. It just looks like a decaying inner city neighborhood with graffiti all over and just did not give any good vibes. But other than hotels, just about everything in Bangkok is miles ahead. I don't think I will ever come back here...
.[/QUOTE]Yes, much more poverty in the street than in Bangkok. It may have to do with the higher Indonesian birthrate. Which birthrate may have to do with .... Jakarta having fifty times more to offer to a western monger than Bangkok. Relax, you ain't seen nothing yet.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2976152]Didn't you used to do around 6 ectasy per night at Stadium?

Do you know a girl named Elga?[/QUOTE]

I knew one Ella.

If I remember right you are the ISG member who doxxed me back then on this forum after asking for info about me at Maribaya's.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2900014]I went to BATS Friday night and CJs Saturday night. BATS was like a reunion of girls I knew 20 years ago. Haha. It's amazing those same girls are still going at it....[/QUOTE]Is that so? Well well well, I must pay BATS a visit then. How I'd love to meet Nikken, Vika, Shanty, Iis, Sophie, Judith, Ella ...