Hong Kong Club Reports

[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2936592]I was consistently making the hottter girls agree for $100, consistently they all came down to $100. I did not check lower than $100 but if I did I could have them go for $80 and this is when it was busy with more guys than girls, Thursday night. It does take some finesse and experience but can be done.

I noticed the girls are more anxious these days because of lack of business. They are forced to pay for outrageous fecha payments while promised can charge $150 and to the most part they can't get $150, hence the anxiousness. HK are in danger of losing their women.[/QUOTE]So you make a girl agree to $100 but you could have them go for $80. First I would be interested to know how you make a girl go for $100. And secondly why you wouldn't make her go for $80? Seems to me your bragging about your ability to get a lower price but your foolishness to pay more than what you need to. If I bought a car I wouldn't go around bragging about the discount I received and at the same time brag that I could have paid even less. It seems to defeat the purpose of bragging about the price you paid.

The second comment of yours really made me laugh. I think you are seeing what you want to see and maybe believe to much of what these girls tell you. HK gives the girls plenty of opportunities to make money but most of the girls are lazy. I've said this many times that the biggest competition for HK is girls going online and not need to work in the club. HK has their own site for this but I don't know how much business they get from it. Also the cost of living in Tijuana keeps getting worse, the inflation last month was almost another 6%. So before girls could come to stay in Tijuana and make good money while living there for very little. Now they might make the same but they are paying more to be in Tijuana. So some of the other bars in parts of Mexico might be a better option for them. Since I don't spend much time in Tijuana I can't verify this it's just a theory, what I do know from visiting other bars in Mexico or seeing what's posted is that many of these other bars hire foreigners so its more competition. HK is very loyal to hiring only nationals and some girls respect that.

[QUOTE=ABAJoeSmith123;2936685]I am 100% serious! I've been going for years back when the going price was $60. Now the trend is $150 - $200. It is possible to negotiate down a little but like someone else said on this forum, it takes finesse and honestly I feel the whole mood is destroyed already when you're trying to negotiate a price down. Many girls won't budge. Unless you have some chemistry and are a repeat customer to a girl that knows you, goodluck finding anyone hot that will go for less than $150.

I don't mind the prices for the girls. What gets me is the cost of the hotel ($40) and the beers / wine prices the meseros drown you in if you try to sit with a girl rather than just immediately going upstairs. It's nice to spend time sitting with a girl, but with the meseros poaching your wallet every 2 minutes for another $12-40 dollars for another beer / wine glass, the clock is ticking and the fun is dwindling..[/QUOTE]2 years ago the maximum price used to be $100. And this was for the hottest girls in the club. The ones with the big Brazilian butt lift / fake butts, big round jiggly butt cheeks from their natural fat being injected into their butt. These girls would charge $100.

But if they are now charging $150, that is definitely a quick increase in rates. I have no idea why the price would increase that much in just 2 years. Seems very weird.

Is the service any good at least? Or is the service complete garbage.

If the girls charging that much aren't open to agreeing to give a solid service for that price, then I don't think it's worth it. If it's $150 for "slam, bam, thank you ma'am" type of service where you fuck them for 10 minutes and they don't even take their shoes off or get fully naked, then yea that's not worth it. And honestly that kind of service is not even worth any amount of money in my personal opinion (these days, I only pay for high quality service, and I'm willing to pay top dollar for it).

If you're willing to pay $100-150 more, you could just spend time sourcing sugar babies in your home city and get good quality service that way.

As opposed to paying $150 to source women in HK, who (it seems) to majority only be interested in giving you no better than garbage service in exchange for your $150. I'm sure you can source a hot one that will give excellent service at $150, but I don't think there are that many hot HK girls that would do that.

All depends on what time and money means to you.

The more these hot HK girls push up the price, to $200 per session, $250, $300, $350 etc. The less attractive it becomes to go to HK.

Got to the club last night around 10 pm. Almost immediately ran into Valerie, one of my current favorite girls, she was doing her hour in the chavelas side so I accompanied her for her remaining hour. After spending that time with her I really wanted to bang her so I ended up getting a room for the night figuring if I do 2 Arribas I will have paid less by paying for the entire night instead of ST. After we had an Hour of fun in my room I released her back into the wild thinking I might even bang her again a little later if she happened to be free. After a couple laps I spotted another long time big boobed favorite but she was busy drinking with a client, who eventually took her arriba.

Noticed a new girl dancing on the bar and she looked very familiar but I couldn't remember from where or what at the time. Later on it suddenly clicked she's a dead ringer for this TikTok girl Dixie D’amelio (picture attached). I approached her with a tip and asked if she was into girls. She actually responded in pretty decent English. She said "yes, of course, I'm bisexual" I said oh ok perfect I have a friend around here somewhere maybe we can get together in a little bit if I can track her down, thinking about the first girl I banged since I've already done several threesomes with her. I left to see what she was up to but Unfortunately some guy ended up cuffing her for the rest of her shift. I went back to the Dixie girl and didn't want to spend time vetting her so I got straight to the point and asked how much to go arriba. She said 130. I countered 120 thinking she would accept but she stood firm and said she actually usually charges 150 so she was giving me a "fair" price LOL. Didn't feel like haggling, plus I didn't even know if she would be worth it performance wise, so I told her I was going to make a couple more rounds and come back later. Not long after that I ran into big boobed girl from earlier and said fuck it let's go back to my room so we left and had a pretty good time as well. She made me cum with an unforgettable titty fucking, which we had actually never done before. You would think it would have been one of the first things I ever did with her seeing as how she has an amazing rack. I was pretty tired after that so I crashed out for the rest of the night.

I was going to go back tonight but maybe I'll just stay home and relax, depending on how I feel. Although truthfully that Dixie girl is still on my mind.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2936624]Nice.

How is the safety around HK and when it comes to taking Ubers or DiDi to and from the border?

Are there stray bullets and sht?

I remember some idiot guys associated with cartels I think got shot like right outside HK, but this may have been a year ago by now.

Is the safety there still ass?[/QUOTE]LOL. Safety is fine. Never personally had any problems with anyone (policia or gang-related folks) in 12+ years going down to Zona Norte walking around or taking Ubers / DiDi in Tijuana. I feel safe down there, though I do use common sense and take proper precautions.

[QUOTE=Sol12;2936779]So you make a girl agree to $100 but you could have them go for $80. First I would be interested to know how you make a girl go for $100. And secondly why you wouldn't make her go for $80? Seems to me your bragging about your ability to get a lower price but your foolishness to pay more than what you need to. If I bought a car I wouldn't go around bragging about the discount I received and at the same time brag that I could have paid even less. It seems to defeat the purpose of bragging about the price you paid.

The second comment of yours really made me laugh. I think you are seeing what you want to see and maybe believe to much of what these girls tell you. HK gives the girls plenty of opportunities to make money but most of the girls are lazy. I've said this many times that the biggest competition for HK is girls going online and not need to work in the club. HK has their own site for this but I don't know how much business they get from it. Also the cost of living in Tijuana keeps getting worse, the inflation last month was almost another 6%. So before girls could come to stay in Tijuana and make good money while living there for very little. Now they might make the same but they are paying more to be in Tijuana. So some of the other bars in parts of Mexico might be a better option for them. Since I don't spend much time in Tijuana I can't verify this it's just a theory, what I do know from visiting other bars in Mexico or seeing what's posted is that many of these other bars hire foreigners so its more competition. HK is very loyal to hiring only nationals and some girls respect that.[/QUOTE]I was checking the girls if they agree for $100 with no intention of taking them up. Already had 2 panochas and I had no milk left. With ease, for me at least all of them agreed for $100, as I wrote these are the hotter girls, with $80 very possible but did not try it, will try it next time. An amigo of mine screwed a girl all natural for mil pesos on Tuesday night from Tropical. Again takes some skill, you can't be pushy and have to push some of their emotional buttons. If you have seen a guy on the floor and have all this chicas bounce off him smiling ear to ear, that would be me. One girl planted her body on mine while I was standing and and the first thing she whispered in my ear was, tu tienes experiencia, she must have observed what I was doing. I guess I am bragging a bit, but it is delivered for those chodes who foolishly pay $150/30 for a star fish.

As for the 6% inflation in Tijuana, we have the same inflation here with no salary increases. Either way 6% inflation doesn't merit 50 to 100% price increase. HK are seeing their status as the only star club in the area, grabbed all the market and now feel in liberty to charge outrageous amount of fechas from the girls while at the same time telling them they can charge as much as $150 to $200 and that these stupid sex starved US Americans will pay it.

One important note I want to repeat is that the girls look to me more stressed. That is my observation. They seem to be under a lot of pressure from the club to pay up unfair amount to work there.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2936784]2 years ago the maximum price used to be $100. And this was for the hottest girls in the club. The ones with the big Brazilian butt lift / fake butts, big round jiggly butt cheeks from their natural fat being injected into their butt. These girls would charge $100.

But if they are now charging $150, that is definitely a quick increase in rates. I have no idea why the price would increase that much in just 2 years. Seems very weird.

Is the service any good at least? Or is the service complete garbage.

If the girls charging that much aren't open to agreeing to give a solid service for that price, then I don't think it's worth it. If it's $150 for "slam, bam, thank you ma'am" type of service where you fuck them for 10 minutes and they don't even take their shoes off or get fully naked, then yea that's not worth it. And honestly that kind of service is not even worth any amount of money in my personal opinion (these days, I only pay for high quality service, and I'm willing to pay top dollar for it).

If you're willing to pay $100-150 more, you could just spend time sourcing sugar babies in your home city and get good quality service that way.

As opposed to paying $150 to source women in HK, who (it seems) to majority only be interested in giving you no better than garbage service in exchange for your $150. I'm sure you can source a hot one that will give excellent service at $150, but I don't think there are that many hot HK girls that would do that.

All depends on what time and money means to you.

The more these hot HK girls push up the price, to $200 per session, $250, $300, $350 etc. The less attractive it becomes to go to HK.[/QUOTE]I've had both absolutely terrible service for the $150-200 ladies and also amazing service. I will say that the vast majority of times it's garbage service of just smash and dash for 5-10 minutes. The girls won't smile, put any effort; they just are aggressive and make you climax as fast as possible so they can ditch you and leave. You feel used and have that WTF did I just spend $200 on that feeling.

If it were cheaper I wouldn't mind hte quick smash and dash. But when you're shelling out $50--100 on drinks, $150 for girl, $40 for hotel room, $20 ish in tips, $20 for parking, and uber fees all for a quick 5-10 minutes smash and dash from someone putting no effort, it's not really worth it unless you're absolutely desperate to get fucked.

[QUOTE=ABAJoeSmith123;2936852]I've had both absolutely terrible service for the $150-200 ladies and also amazing service. I will say that the vast majority of times it's garbage service of just smash and dash for 5-10 minutes. The girls won't smile, put any effort; they just are aggressive and make you climax as fast as possible so they can ditch you and leave. You feel used and have that WTF did I just spend $200 on that feeling.

If it were cheaper I wouldn't mind hte quick smash and dash. But when you're shelling out $50--100 on drinks, $150 for girl, $40 for hotel room, $20 ish in tips, $20 for parking, and uber fees all for a quick 5-10 minutes smash and dash from someone putting no effort, it's not really worth it unless you're absolutely desperate to get fucked.[/QUOTE]I wrote before you pay $500 and that won't change one ounce of what type of service you get. It really really really depends on you and her and whether you two can be in a good vibe together. That is it. Almost all women (or all persons with feminine trait) are emotional, they gauge their world via how they feel about a situation.

Usually when you pay a girl what she asks and take her up based on that, you are guaranteed you will get a nasty star fish. That is because it shows to her you are horny when you approached her. Guys that approach while horny pay higher and get bad service. Approach and contact her with a good vibe, qualify her, state your price and stay firm, if she agrees then usually the service will be better. Also pay after not before.

[QUOTE=ABAJoeSmith123;2936852]I've had both absolutely terrible service for the $150-200 ladies and also amazing service. I will say that the vast majority of times it's garbage service of just smash and dash for 5-10 minutes. The girls won't smile, put any effort; they just are aggressive and make you climax as fast as possible so they can ditch you and leave. You feel used and have that WTF did I just spend $200 on that feeling.

If it were cheaper I wouldn't mind hte quick smash and dash. But when you're shelling out $50--100 on drinks, $150 for girl, $40 for hotel room, $20 ish in tips, $20 for parking, and uber fees all for a quick 5-10 minutes smash and dash from someone putting no effort, it's not really worth it unless you're absolutely desperate to get fucked.[/QUOTE]Well said, I've experienced similar while I was there on my past few trips to the zona / HK. This was years ago, back in 2021 and 2022. So seems like the service is still garbage on average and hasn't improved.

I will say though that I did have a few sessions that were really really good, so that still happens. But those sessions were like 1 for every 5 or 6 sessions. So for the most part, I agree, the service will most likely be garbage.

With that being said, it seems like HK has gone to shit, or a better phrasing would be that it has remained shit compared to years ago. I'm leaning towards not making another trip now that I've heard this intel from you guys. Thanks for the heads up.

[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2936891]I wrote before you pay $500 and that won't change one ounce of what type of service you get. It really really really depends on you and her and whether you two can be in a good vibe together. That is it. Almost all women (or all persons with feminine trait) are emotional, they gauge their world via how they feel about a situation.

Usually when you pay a girl what she asks and take her up based on that, you are guaranteed you will get a nasty star fish. That is because it shows to her you are horny when you approached her. Guys that approach while horny pay higher and get bad service. Approach and contact her with a good vibe, qualify her, state your price and stay firm, if she agrees then usually the service will be better. Also pay after not before.[/QUOTE]I do think there are mongering locations that exist in the world where you can show up, discuss what you would like, get the price quote from the girl, and then actually get a good quality service and leave happily.

HK just isn't that place though. Finding a place where you can consistently get good service is a gem. You shouldn't have to fight for it every time. Going to places like HK makes you believe that you need to fight to get good service when you are paying and are willing to pay.

It screws up your perception because the standard in HK is to deliver garbage service. That just means you're going to garbage mongering locations. Has nothing to do with the concept of wanting to consistently pay a woman to get good service out of her.

The other thing that hasn't been brought up is how out of towners or inexperienced mongers also fuck up the pricing of the girls. There's this HK girl I've gotten to know pretty well in particular, just within the last couple weeks she told me about two incidents with clients. A friend of hers reached out to her for a threesome. She said she never quoted him anything since she trusted her friend who said he was a good client. He ended up giving her $200 for roughly 45 minutes, 30 of which they were just chatting. He offered her DOUBLE for BBFS but she declined. Or so she says, which I'll give her the benefit of the doubt since I havent caught her in a lie yet. Either way, that particular price offering is insane.

Another recent instance she told me about was this out of towner in his 50's who took her arriba. She never quoted him anything because he never asked and seemed like a decent guy. He ended up giving her $300 unprompted.

A few months back another girl Ive known for a while from Chicago told me she had a client who flew in from new York who had never been to the zona so he basically knew nothing. He gave her $500. She admitted to giving him a BBBJ but no BBFS, which even if she did do BBFS, for that kind of money who could blame her.

So it's no wonder that aside from inflation, these girls think $150 isn't too bad for us living in the states when we have guys like that throwing money around.

[QUOTE=Nothing24;2937096]The other thing that hasn't been brought up is how out of towners or inexperienced mongers also fuck up the pricing of the girls. There's this HK girl I've gotten to know pretty well in particular, just within the last couple weeks she told me about two incidents with clients. A friend of hers reached out to her for a threesome. She said she never quoted him anything since she trusted her friend who said he was a good client. He ended up giving her $200 for roughly 45 minutes, 30 of which they were just chatting. He offered her DOUBLE for BBFS but she declined. Or so she says, which I'll give her the benefit of the doubt since I havent caught her in a lie yet. Either way, that particular price offering is insane.

Another recent instance she told me about was this out of towner in his 50's who took her arriba. She never quoted him anything because he never asked and seemed like a decent guy. He ended up giving her $300 unprompted.

A few months back another girl Ive known for a while from Chicago told me she had a client who flew in from new York who had never been to the zona so he basically knew nothing. He gave her $500. She admitted to giving him a BBBJ but no BBFS, which even if she did do BBFS, for that kind of money who could blame her.

So it's no wonder that aside from inflation, these girls think $150 isn't too bad for us living in the states when we have guys like that throwing money around.[/QUOTE]Also US pussy prices have skyrocketed for both providers and regular girls. The best seeking deal I found was $300 ppm. The US pros are even more expensive. Guaranteed the mexican girls know the cost of US girls.

[QUOTE=Guardman;2937112]Also US pussy prices have skyrocketed for both providers and regular girls. The best seeking deal I found was $300 ppm. The US pros are even more expensive. Guaranteed the mexican girls know the cost of US girls.[/QUOTE]Seeking is not bad, I would say it depends on where you live.

For example, if you can get excellent service for $200-300 on seeking in your home town, then that would probably be better than traveling to HK and having to pay the girls there $100-150.

Factoring in the cost of flight and hotel basically increases your average rate to around $200-300 anyway. This is why it may be better to just pay a higher PPM to a girl on seeking.

In terms of where you would get better service. A girl from seeking or an HK girl. I would say that it seems it would vary widely.

In both cases though I do think you would have to grind through girls regardless. Meaning you would have to message a bunch of them, see which ones are receptive, let them know you can provide a good rate, etc. And on the HK side you would have to approach the girls, buy them drinks to talk to them, see which one is receiptive and willing to provide a good service, etc.

The same level of grinding. I wouldn't say one would be significantly smoother or easier to grind compared to the other.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2936784]2 years ago the maximum price used to be $100. And this was for the hottest girls in the club. The ones with the big Brazilian butt lift / fake butts, big round jiggly butt cheeks from their natural fat being injected into their butt. These girls would charge $100.

But if they are now charging $150, that is definitely a quick increase in rates. I have no idea why the price would increase that much in just 2 years. Seems very weird.
[/QUOTE]1) Highest inflation since the Jimmy Carter administration, which began after COVID.

2) USA Dollar trending weaker the past couple of years vs. Mexican peso (though dollar has rebounded nicely the past 4 months or so).

3) Basic supply and demand. As far as I know the prices had been pretty much constant since well before even the early 2010's when I started going to Tijuana until just a few years ago. They were bound to increase at some point. Americans and rich foreigners are generally more than willing to pay even more than the prices as they are currently so would expect them to go up even further at some point. Think some of it is more people finding out about HK / Zona Norte, some of it is the ever-incresing dominance of HK and its affiliated clubs in the Zona Norte market (I. E. , monopolies lead to higher prices). Capitalism at work. It is what it is. Agree that it's not quite what it used to be when I first started going but I'm only in Tijuana three times or so a year anyway. Still a great time for me, LOL.

[QUOTE=BrotherMouzone;2937121]1) Highest inflation since the Jimmy Carter administration, which began after COVID.

2) USA Dollar trending weaker the past couple of years vs. Mexican peso (though dollar has rebounded nicely the past 4 months or so).

3) Basic supply and demand. As far as I know the prices had been pretty much constant since well before even the early 2010's when I started going to Tijuana until just a few years ago. They were bound to increase at some point. Americans and rich foreigners are generally more than willing to pay even more than the prices as they are currently so would expect them to go up even further at some point. Think some of it is more people finding out about HK / Zona Norte, some of it is the ever-incresing dominance of HK and its affiliated clubs in the Zona Norte market (I. E. , monopolies lead to higher prices). Capitalism at work. It is what it is. Agree that it's not quite what it used to be when I first started going but I'm only in Tijuana three times or so a year anyway. Still a great time for me, LOL.[/QUOTE]Just like Spirit Airlines is now breaking the back of SW who now has become a main stream expensive airlines, if an airline makes it easy for Mongers from the west coast of the US to reach South American destinations, HK will be a toasted Bun in no time.

Lots of guys will be put off by these prices now quoted on the floor, 130,140, 150,160, 170,200, 250. Come on, you add room prices to all of these it becomes a joke. HK can become like Deja Vu someday where the regular monger never sets foot.

There is no question the mood of the girls is more intense these days, the normal exuberance we are used to is gone. The girls are stressed, tired and anxious. Bummer!

Here's my version of the same type of grousing. I had already typed it up so I'm posting it.

Went a few times last week, sometime between 6:00 pm And 11:00 pm So I could catch the last trolley. Easy pat down and metal detector, never a cover charge or mandatory drink purchase. First time in each trip and it's like this is heaven man. So many beautiful women. But nowadays it's a bikini bar for the most part. Even on the main stages, many just go topless and the ones that do go nude don't proudly show you their pussy for a tip. (I didn't take notes or keep counts so I might be exaggerating.).

I did buy one girl a beer. She actually came up and said Hello,. When she asked to go upstairs I verified that the rooms are now $40. So I said no thanks. It would take a really hot nympho who was all over me for me to do that, which means never. And the hotel rooms are now 90+ so you would have to do at least three girls per day to make that pay versus $40 each time. I also worked out the VIP card and it wasn't helpful for me because I wouldn't be staying two Monday nights. Sorry, I don't remember the details on that.

Very few women do any hustling for drinks or more. I'm old so I understand about me but same for young guys too.

For me, HK is now about watching beautiful women and the shaving cream show where you can do some serious touching for a few dollars.

Ah for the good old days, long gone. (he sheds a tear).

[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2936851]I was checking the girls if they agree for $100 with no intention of taking them up. Already had 2 panochas and I had no milk left. With ease, for me at least all of them agreed for $100, as I wrote these are the hotter girls, with $80 very possible but did not try it, will try it next time. An amigo of mine screwed a girl all natural for mil pesos on Tuesday night from Tropical. Again takes some skill, you can't be pushy and have to push some of their emotional buttons. If you have seen a guy on the floor and have all this chicas bounce off him smiling ear to ear, that would be me. One girl planted her body on mine while I was standing and and the first thing she whispered in my ear was, tu tienes experiencia, she must have observed what I was doing. I guess I am bragging a bit, but it is delivered for those chodes who foolishly pay $150/30 for a star fish.

As for the 6% inflation in Tijuana, we have the same inflation here with no salary increases. Either way 6% inflation doesn't merit 50 to 100% price increase. HK are seeing their status as the only star club in the area, grabbed all the market and now feel in liberty to charge outrageous amount of fechas from the girls while at the same time telling them they can charge as much as $150 to $200 and that these stupid sex starved US Americans will pay it..[/QUOTE]Which was my point that you don't "make" a girl do anything. Also seems to be strange to just going around asking girls about going up and not doing anything. As far as the girls jumping on you and being so happy with you why is it that you have to pay at all? I know plenty of guys that have banged these girls for free when they really like you or just want to hang out.

You might want to brush up on how inflation works, it has been going up year over year so 6% in one month on top of what it has already gone up. HK charges what it thinks people will pay. Trust me if they really wanted to charge more and screw over people they could. The girls make prices not HK.

I'm not sure what super power you think you have to know how each girl feels by looking at them but they don't pay the club to work there. If you have any proof of this we would all enjoy to see it.