Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;3014284]Hello friends. Hope you can help guide me on my first trip to Sao paulo. Planning to be there in mid August for a week, with the solo purpose of mongering......

A bit about me: I don't like to be cheap, especially when I am doing a s*x vacation. Don't mind splurging on best looking girls. Hence, planning to hit Scandallo every night (seems like closed on Sunday though). Is Scandallo open during afternoons as well, and has some girls then? Also planning to explore Bomboa, Casarao. During day time, I also plan to hit some of the clinicas (the luxury ones seem to be The Palms and Lushness).

My game plan: I usually try to get 3-4 shots in a 24 hour period. So, planning for 1 at a clinica in the morning / afternoon; 1 in early evening at Scandallo / Bomboa / Casarao, and 1-2 with a girl overnight at my hotel (or a love motel. See below) that I pick up from Scandallo.

I am most confused about hotel: ..... I have RTFF and seems like Moema neighborhood is a good choice, but seems a bit far from Scandallo. However, has the I checked out Rosewood, but seems very expensive for a week long stay ($500-$600 USD per night). What will you recommend as a solid 5 star hotel in the 200-350 USD per night range? I also got intrigued by the concept of Love motels (e. G. , Lush motel looks very nice! Should I just stay at a love motel for 7 nights? Or is it only for a few hour trips you would recommend I. E. Pick a girl from Scandallo and spend the night with her at Lush motel and then come back to my home base hotel?[/QUOTE]I agree with Anaggie comments. Here are a couple reports from SocratesNY that should be read if you missed.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2997731&viewfull=1#post2997731

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2997729&viewfull=1#post2997729

The luxury hotels will be girl friendly, but I have not found the mid-range Moema hotels and Airbnbs to NOT be very girl friendly. Sometimes you can unregister a person and add another the next night, but many are stricter and security often like to flex their power. A good number are women as well, so harder to give a tip with a wink like the male porteros in Medellin. For luxury I have stayed at the Grand Hyatt, JW Marriott, and W Hotel. All have been quite girl friendly.

If you do stay in Moema, you can get a love motel as you need it. I like Asturias which is 400 r / nt, so $70, and works well if your hotel is picky. They may charge a little bit more for additional girls, but unsure. There are other love motels for even cheaper if you search. I do not believe you can stay there 24-7. Usually you rent for 6 or 12 hours. They do have food and drink menus for convenience.

In regards to traffic, YES it is bad during the day, but I have not found it that bad when I was going to Scandallo from Moema (7-10 pm) or returning (12-1 am) usually.

Lastly, you're a high roller, which is good. Just be prepared to shell out some decent coin for Scandallo. I haven't been to Dubai, but guessing that prices are on par with that. Definitely more than Costa Rica or Germany, and much more than Colombia. The clinicas on the other hand are quite equitable and 350-450 r a pop.

Practice your Portuguese and Enjoy!

What is the policy of massage clinics, private houses, nightclubs, swing houses, love motels, and similar businesses when it comes to providing identification? In all of my prior travels in Germany and Europe I have never had to show identification. My concern is that the ID will be stolen (rare, I am sure) or copied, and then later used for fraud or (worse) extortion. I might expect a love motel to want to see my ID, but what about all these variations on brothels? I like to use a nickname and prefer a clinic or house not to know my given name and country.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3014246]The rooms at Casarao usually are busy especially after 2 am. The were times I had to wait more than half hour for a room and don't think management would let me stay for than few minute more than I paid for. After hearing how successful you are getting girls for are $200 or so, I shouldn't be surprised to learn Casarao management lets you stay in the room for up to an hour when you paid for half hour. I hope you continue have such great success.[/QUOTE]LOL, management has no clue how much one negotiated for with a girl. The room cost is the same regardless. If it's not busy, no line for the rooms, they'll let the time run over a bit, especially if they like you.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3014315]Great tip!

I try to take my own shots of the girls and I find that most boate girls are fine with it. Some are extrovert and will pose, others will only allow face shots or selfies of the 2 of us. Most girls will loosen as they become more comfortable with me after a couple of repeat sessions back at the hotel. But I find that clinca girls are more reluctant to pose. Usually, the most they will give me are head shots, but some clinica girls are opposed to even that. That is where your instagram tip can really help out.[/QUOTE]Yup same experience--though Asian garotas in clinicas and boates were super protective of their privacy. When meeting garotas first time I got tired of the wassap numbers changing or the garotas moving friom clinica to clinica changing haircolor, makeup, and different names, some bouncing back and forth from Rio to SP via blablacar. Or cheap $45 usd one way flight, they change hairstyles color. , cellular. Some have personal and a professional instagram accounts to keep the circles separate. But as you say after a couple of meetups there is a comfort level.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3014351]I have not found the mid-range Moema hotels and Airbnbs to NOT be very girl friendly. Sometimes you can unregister a person and add another the next night, but many are stricter and security often like to flex their power[/QUOTE]After reserving my last AirBnb, I received broader house rules adding all visitors must be pre-registered with language including non-registered guests would be absolutely prohibited So, I registered someone prior to check-in. On the 2nd night of my stay, late evening, she arrived in a revealing, short, tight black dress, heels. Turned towards reception but before I took two steps, security waved me away with very enthusiastic smiles. Continued with other guests for the rest of the day.

Compiled list of Love Motels frequently mentioned in posts with a review.

With Moema as a starting point.

Sao Paulo. Love motels.

Andar de Cima. Sutes. Centro, So Paulo (erotic fun suites, short Uber from Casarao, next door to Love Cabaret, suites suitable for threesome, foursome all night, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service, fun party atmosphere in suites).

Motel Colonial Palace (fucking best economical deal on the budget, decent pool, excellent food, and breakfast, short Uber from Scandallo, suitable for threesome, foursome all night, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service, damn uber drivers prefer pickup outside instead of meeting in suites, the religious uber drivers never come inside, only outside drop-off, or pick up or they cancel the ride).

Lush Motel (unidade Ipiranga) (pool with toys, modern suites, short Uber from Scandallo decent size pool, suitable for threesome, all night, foursome are a bit tight, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service).

Secrets Motel are. Sebastopol, 47 - Vila Inglesa, So Paulo (nice daytime midpoint place to meet garotas when they live far away, suites average, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, marola friendly, service sucks, order iFood).

Hotel For Lovers, one minute walk from Jabaqura Metro.

Are. Dos Jequitibs, 261 - Jardim Oriental, (the rooms suck, the service sucks, and the price is cheap mas barrato, order iFood, however, the location for afternoon meetup, no Uber needed. Garotas takes the metro to Jabaquara Metro, walks less than one minute to the motel, a good meet-up spot when there is rain, afternoon thunderstorms, and traffic backed up for miles, and promised to meet at 5 pm, nothing else to recommend about the place). Garotas can leave by metro or onibus, easy in easy out for them).

Swing Motel, no Morumbi, So Paulo (far from scandallo, 20 min uber from Moema, erotic fun suites, suites suitable but tight for threesome, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for more garotas, ok service, colorful suites).

Chicago85.

Love Motel. Motel Asturias.

Perhaps this should go in a different thread, but I figured it comes up enough to put in the main SP one.

Last night I was in a familiar scenario where I didn't want to add another guest to my airbnb and needed an option. I'm staying in Moema and did not want to travel far and went to Motel Asturias (Pinheiro) on a friends suggestion. It turned out to be a great spot if you're with a first time girl who may be sketchy or if you just want to have a solid sport fucking session with a garota or two. It's 400 are for the base suite, but this is two floors, probably 1000 sq ft and includes a jacuzzi as well as sauna (plus queen bed). The Presidential suite is 650 are and includes a pool. In my case it was a hell of a lot of fun fucking the girl all over the suite (jacuzzi, bed, on stairs, shower, etc.). I even got a last rushed one in at her request as her Uber was on the way.

Chicago85.

If you do stay in Moema, you can get a love motel as you need it. I like Asturias which is 400 are / nt, so $70, and works well if your hotel is picky. They may charge a little bit more for additional girls, but unsure. There are other love motels for even cheaper if you search. I do not believe you can stay there 24-7. Usually you rent for 6 or 12 hours. They do have food and drink menus for convenience.

Steve 9696.

First, a shoutout to Lush motel. OMFG this place is fire! 🔥 They have 3, 6, and 12 hour blocks and you can book same day. But the key is how off the hook it is, especially for the price. I booked their Lush Spa Splash for 12 hours for $130 And boy is it worth it.

The suite is over 700 sq ft. And INSIDE the suite is a jacuzzi, sauna, and 10 x20 pool! Wtf! It is epic! There is this magic cabinet where when you order food and drinks, a bell rings and the shit shows up in the cabinet. No answering the door or having some dude deliver stuff. Just food and drinks at the beckon and it magically appears. Prices weren't bad either. You should def go to Lush, preferably with a duo which makes it even more fun.

[URL]https://lushmotel.com.br[/URL]

In Rio.

Panda Motel Botafogo, (top end suites with fvcking large ass pool, suitable for threesome, foursome all night, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service in tuxedos, short Uber from Monte Carlos).

Mr Enternational.

Actually the love motels in Brazil are some of the most extravagant in the world. If you look at some of the porno movies, they film a lot of them there. They have pools and waterfalls and shit. Just search "moteis (plural of motel) rio de janeiro".

[URL]https://bambinahotel.com.br/[/URL]

[URL]https://corintohotel.com.br/[/URL]

[URL]https://demaiohotel.com.br/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Ak233;3014373]What is the policy of massage clinics, private houses, nightclubs, swing houses, love motels, and similar businesses when it comes to providing identification? In all of my prior travels in Germany and Europe I have never had to show identification. My concern is that the ID will be stolen (rare, I am sure) or copied, and then later used for fraud or (worse) extortion. I might expect a love motel to want to see my ID, but what about all these variations on brothels? I like to use a nickname and prefer a clinic or house not to know my given name and country.[/QUOTE]You are being overly paranoid. Yes you have to give ID at most places. Scandallo and Casarao for sure. But don't sweat it. No one is going to blackmail you. They hardly speak English. Much easier to blackmail a rich local. Not that that will happen either. These places live or die on discretion. Even credit card charges are obfuscated under some innocuous name. It never says Joes Blowjob Emporium.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3014386]You are being overly paranoid. Yes you have to give ID at most places. Scandallo and Casarao for sure. But don't sweat it. No one is going to blackmail you. They hardly speak English. Much easier to blackmail a rich local. Not that that will happen either. These places live or die on discretion. Even credit card charges are obfuscated under some innocuous name. It never says Joes Blowjob Emporium.[/QUOTE]Yeah, my last trip I was settling the bill at a club (forget which one) and saw a charge for two "desserts" on there. I said I had not ordered any desserts. They told me that was code for a couple of condoms LOL! I typically like to use my own but don't always get to. But yes, discretion is very important and maintained at these establishments.

[QUOTE=Ak233;3014373]What is the policy of massage clinics, private houses, nightclubs, swing houses, love motels, and similar businesses when it comes to providing identification? In all of my prior travels in Germany and Europe I have never had to show identification. My concern is that the ID will be stolen (rare, I am sure) or copied, and then later used for fraud or (worse) extortion. I might expect a love motel to want to see my ID, but what about all these variations on brothels? I like to use a nickname and prefer a clinic or house not to know my given name and country.[/QUOTE]I used my old driver license. They do not care what kind of document you show, until it has picture, name, and dob.

[QUOTE=Ak233;3014373]What is the policy of massage clinics, private houses, nightclubs, swing houses, love motels, and similar businesses when it comes to providing identification? In all of my prior travels in Germany and Europe I have never had to show identification. My concern is that the ID will be stolen (rare, I am sure) or copied, and then later used for fraud or (worse) extortion. I might expect a love motel to want to see my ID, but what about all these variations on brothels? I like to use a nickname and prefer a clinic or house not to know my given name and country.[/QUOTE]I understand some of the concern, but as the other commenter noted, these places operate on discretion as well as loyalty, and one bad review could sink them.

In my experience in SP. Clinicas (no ID), love motels (ID), nightclubs including Scandallo-Casarao-Gauguin-Bomboa (ID).

In Rio. Clinicas (no ID), Termas (usually ID), love motels (no ID), nightclubs (50-50 on ID).

FWIW, I just carry my passport card or an expired military ID. Something that doesn't have any additional details like address to be used. I have known more paranoid guys to use fake IDs for running around as well, just be sure you don't get caught coming back to the USA With it.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3014246]The rooms at Casarao usually are busy especially after 2 am. The were times I had to wait more than half hour for a room and don't think management would let me stay for than few minute more than I paid for. After hearing how successful you are getting girls for are $200 or so, I shouldn't be surprised to learn Casarao management lets you stay in the room for up to an hour when you paid for half hour. I hope you continue have such great success.[/QUOTE]I always paid for an hour. I thought the rooms where hourly. LOL, It like the old butcher shops, when you took an number and waited for your number to come up.

Could someone describe to me what are clinical and boates? I have been only in Belo Horizonte and visited motels near the bust terminal in the north so I'm not all that Brazil experienced but will get there hopefully soon. Also is anyone could provide any addresses in Rio and São Paulo. Thanks in Advance.

[QUOTE=CaliTraveler;3014478]Could someone describe to me what are clinical and boates? I have been only in Belo Horizonte and visited motels near the bust terminal in the north so I'm not all that Brazil experienced but will get there hopefully soon. Also is anyone could provide any addresses in Rio and So Paulo. Thanks in Advance.[/QUOTE]A clinica is a brothel with a set price that you select a girl and have sex. A boate is in a club setting with freelancers. Most of the clubs have room on site. You can mingle with girls in some clinicas like in a club but usually no foreplay that is common clubs like Scandello.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;3014419]I always paid for an hour. I thought the rooms where hourly. LOL, It like the old butcher shops, when you took an number and waited for your number to come up.[/QUOTE]I think others assume it was half hour because of how much you paid the girl.

[QUOTE=Tochka;3014378] But as you say after a couple of meetups there is a comfort level.[/QUOTE]I gave the girl the phone to take picture and let them decide what is comfortable for them. One girl would not use my phone and she has to use her phone. The difference is that she has the filter always on, not sure how she did it.

I have been playing with the giimbal to remote control it with my watch. The girl knew it's there but she has no idea how I control it. LOL.