Manila

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2872790]I've said it before and I'll say it again. You go to The Philippines ON VACATION. Of course I could date LA girls and get sex for theoretically cheaper if I count dinner and drinks in LA and then I compare it to the airfare and the Central Park Jacuzzi suite in AC. But I go there to relax and chill watch sports in the morning and day drink and wander around and do nothing during the day and then nap and have a raging nightly adventure that always results in bare sex. My monthly credit card charge in LA is generally about 4 k USD for food and entertainment. That's exactly the amount of cash I bring to PH for a month, and I don't use a credit card there so that's a break-even. And I will tell you that 4 k brings me a LOT more fun than it does in LA.[/QUOTE]My point is PH (or at least the S. A. Scene there) won't be cheaper for long if we normalise paying girls to just show up for a meal, and then pay them western prices on top for travel pussy.

We're already seeing the phenomenon of travelling Filipinas all over East Asia who visit for 1-2 weeks and charge $200-300 per hour. Soon they might not need to travel for that kind of money anymore if people are willing to pay that in the Philippines.

Where do you guys buy your Antibiotic?

Seems I had too much fun and need to buy 1000 MG az.

I can buy in Bangkok but not sure in Manila.

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2872790]I've said it before and I'll say it again. You go to The Philippines ON VACATION. Of course I could date LA girls and get sex for theoretically cheaper if I count dinner and drinks in LA and then I compare it to the airfare and the Central Park Jacuzzi suite in AC. But I go there to relax and chill watch sports in the morning and day drink and wander around and do nothing during the day and then nap and have a raging nightly adventure that always results in bare sex. My monthly credit card charge in LA is generally about 4 k USD for food and entertainment. That's exactly the amount of cash I bring to PH for a month, and I don't use a credit card there so that's a break-even. And I will tell you that 4 k brings me a LOT more fun than it does in LA.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RainMania;2873032]My point is PH (or at least the S. A. Scene there) won't be cheaper for long if we normalise paying girls to just show up for a meal, and then pay them western prices on top for travel pussy.

We're already seeing the phenomenon of travelling Filipinas all over East Asia who visit for 1-2 weeks and charge $200-300 per hour. Soon they might not need to travel for that kind of money anymore if people are willing to pay that in the Philippines.[/QUOTE]Anyone concerned about Curtis' spending should have a read of the Seeking Forum on this site. Everyone complains about Burgos but Seeking is the top of the totem pole when it comes to 'hot at any cost' mongering and his weekend was quite tame in comparison. Many simps spend hundreds or even thousands to put girls on a pedestal and pussy worship them with little or no return.

Before anyone says that we can't compare prices in NYC to Manila, remember that he also paid $700 a night for his Boracay room. Ie having a hot-as-sin sex kitten for three days cost him about the same as one night's accommodation.

Could he find someone equally as cute in any city in the Philippines? Probably. However, he would be highly unlikely to find said girl, ready to go, in two days.

To anyone concerned about hoeflation etc, do they really think Day 2 Girl won't be available, down the club, as soon as the 40 k is spent?

It's certainly not a market that I'm about to jump into but he spent his money and had a great time as a result. I don't think anyone can complain about that.

Enjoy. G.

Curtis,

For shits and giggles, solve an age old debate here at ISG??

I've often said it is cheaper to fuck a hooker than feed her in the Philippines. Many have disagreed.

You paid Day 2 Girl 47 k?? What was your Room Service and meals bill for the same period??

Enquiring minds need to know. LOL.

I'm betting it was less. 😜.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2873032]

We're already seeing the phenomenon of travelling Filipinas all over East Asia who visit for 1-2 weeks and charge $200-300 per hour. Soon they might not need to travel for that kind of money anymore if people are willing to pay that in the Philippines.[/QUOTE]Actually this is not as easy as you think. Phils immigration is ridiculously strict on letting young single girls out of the country. In Singapore we have thousands of imported working girls from Thailand and Vietnam and pre Covid China. They all come to Singapore on 30 day visas. Philippine girls can also come on the same terms but they cannot get out of their own country. Hence there are very few working Filipinas here and most are contracted to the buy me drink bars because they get sponsored work permits. The only freelancers are waitresses and others doing a bit of moonlighting and of course the domestic workers who can only fuck on Sunday afternoons.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2873105]Actually this is not as easy as you think. Phils immigration is ridiculously strict on letting young single girls out of the country. In Singapore we have thousands of imported working girls from Thailand and Vietnam and pre Covid China. They all come to Singapore on 30 day visas. Philippine girls can also come on the same terms but they cannot get out of their own country. Hence there are very few working Filipinas here and most are contracted to the buy me drink bars because they get sponsored work permits. The only freelancers are waitresses and others doing a bit of moonlighting and of course the domestic workers who can only fuck on Sunday afternoons.[/QUOTE]As someone who lives in the Philippines, I can attest to the veracity of the above. Young womenparticularly those traveling alone or in small groupshave an extraordinarily difficult time leaving the country even with round trip tickets and sufficient cash to support themselves. Philippines Immigration is extremely strict and often refuses to allow them to leave the country, particularly to well-known sex tourist destinations. Often, even those traveling with boyfriends have to provide ample proof of a pre-existing relationship and the Immigration officials do not have to justify their decisions.

GE.

Yeah very true. I remember on my second visit, literally the last day I was there I met a girl who completely infatuated me. We kept in touch after I returned to the US and I considered flying her here for a couple of weeks. She was smart and explained the complications of such a thing, and upon further research, yeah, it was complicated not really practical. In hindsight I'm glad I didn't do it anyway.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2873110]As someone who lives in the Philippines, I can attest to the veracity of the above. Young womenparticularly those traveling alone or in small groupshave an extraordinarily difficult time leaving the country even with round trip tickets and sufficient cash to support themselves. Philippines Immigration is extremely strict and often refuses to allow them to leave the country, particularly to well-known sex tourist destinations. Often, even those traveling with boyfriends have to provide amply proof of a pre-existing relationship and the Immigration officials do not have to justify their decisions.

GE.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2873105]Actually this is not as easy as you think. Phils immigration is ridiculously strict on letting young single girls out of the country. In Singapore we have thousands of imported working girls from Thailand and Vietnam and pre Covid China. They all come to Singapore on 30 day visas. Philippine girls can also come on the same terms but they cannot get out of their own country. Hence there are very few working Filipinas here and most are contracted to the buy me drink bars because they get sponsored work permits. The only freelancers are waitresses and others doing a bit of moonlighting and of course the domestic workers who can only fuck on Sunday afternoons.[/QUOTE]For country bumpkin Filipinas who don't know what they're doing, yes they'll have a hard time getting through PH immigration.

But for those who do find their way through (and they do in their hundreds and thousands), their numbers are plentiful in HK, Korea, Japan, Taiwan and even the major cities of Mainland China. Check the MR / smooci pages for these countries and you're bound to find a bunch of Filipinas taking advantage of the dire mongering options non-local men have there.

Even domestic helpers in HK are now asking for US $150 for what usually amounts to ST.

Nice report CurtisMack!. Looks like money well spent and also great to know SA is the way to go.

I did something similar with Smooci girls and took one of them out to Banao on my rice terrace trip- but those are definitely more pro types so will give SA a try next time when I am there.

[QUOTE=CurtisMack;2871786]First off, thank you to all who helped me and answered my questions on this forum as I prepared for my trip and to all who have posted helpful reports. I could not have had as much success as I did without all your help.

This is going to be a long and detailed report, so TLDR I met girls from SA and had a blast with each one and took one with me to Boracay.

Although I stayed in a hotel in Makati, I am posting in the Manila forum as my experience could have been had anywhere in the Manila area, as I met girls only from SA and did not venture to P Burgos or any area specific to Makati (although I planned to visit P Burgos but was having too much fun with SA girl, so I scratched that plan).

Firstly the other dating sites. I also signed up for pinalove and filipinocupid, but did not meet any girls from those sites. A lot of the girls were, sorry to say, just not attractive enough for me. Also I was ignoring any profiles that were empty or near empty (just one or two sentences), had phone number in the profile or said "serious relationship only not for fun". That may have been a reason why I couldn't find any girls on those sites. There may have been some hot legit girls who were down for just fun among the ones I ignored. The few girls I did find extremely hot and met my profile requirements did not respond to my messages. I tried on those sites for a few days then gave up. There were just way too many profiles that did not interest me, and I use SA back home and am familiar with sugaring and just felt more comfortable using SA.

Now on to SA. As I mentioned in my previous posts, I was looking to have some fun in Manila then BYOG to Boracay, so I added "travel with you" to my "show members seeking" filter. I also added filters to "do not show members seeking" for "seeking transgender," and "seeking trans-friendly" (note I still got trans girls in my search, so be wary). I added some basic information about me and was up-front in my profile and stated that I was just looking for temporary fun and to find someone to go with me on a weekend getaway. About a week before my arrival I set my location to Makati and started going through profiles. I ignored profiles that were empty or near-empty, had only one photo, had only obviously filtered photos or had only "glam" photos and no "real" cellphone photos. I opened with a brief message that mentioned something from her profile to show I'm not just copy-pasting my messages and said that I would like to discuss arrangements outside of the site on whatsapp. I got a response from about half of the girls I messaged.

After moving to whatsapp I laid out my proposal. 3 k for first meet (coffee or drinks). If we move the meet to my hotel for a LT date another 4 k. Any additional LT dates 7 k each time. If she comes to Boracay with me (3 nights) then 35 k plus cost of travel. I specified that the 35 k would be given at the end of the trip as to protect myself from no-shows and bailers. Note that back home I never offer anything for first meet over coffee or drinks, as all of the SBs back home have cars and can drive themselves. I figured 3 K for just a meet would be enough to draw interest and an amount I would be okay with giving if things didn't proceed from there. It didn't matter in the end because no initial meet did not end up back in my hotel room, as I banged each girl I met. Also I know many of you will probably say I overpaid, but compared to sugaring back home it is just a fraction of the price. I wanted to make an offer that would get a lot of initial interest and was an amount I would be happy with.

From the messages I started blocking girls who either asked for money up front or asked if I wanted to buy pics / vids. One girl started giving me a sob story about family hospital bills, and although she didn't ask for money, my senses were telling me she would soon, so I told her I didn't think we would hit it off and blocked her. A couple girls told me up front that they would be unable to go with me to Boracay, but would still be open to meet up. I kept those girls in my back pocket.

Of the girls that were interested, some did not respond after first day of chatting. Of the ones that maintained contact, I started to talk in more detail about what I was looking for in arrangement. I mentioned that I liked BBBJ, DATY and bb sex. Those that did not want to do those I told them sorry it won't work out and ended communication. Of those that were okay with those, I requested a quick video chat. There was none who denied, so it was easy to verify all of the girls I was still chatting with were real and can speak English very well. At this point I was left with six potentials.

Day 1 - Girls 1 and 2.

Girl 1. Met at Starbucks. We met early afternoon, as I had planned to meet with another girl later that night. She was an hour and half late, but as previous posts in this thread had mentioned, this was expected and I prepared for that by choosing the Starbucks right across the street from my hotel. She was super cute and even better looking in person compared to our video chat. No extra fat on her and very attractive. We had a great chat, and she was very excited about the possibility of going to Boracay, as she said she has never been. It was time to see how we got along in the sack. I invited her up to my hotel room where we chatted a little more on the couch before things started to get handsy and soon we were making out. BBBJ on the couch before we moved to the bed where we had excellent sex. She tasted clean. She said she wasn't on birth control so asked me to finish outside so I obliged and decorated her stomach. First sex of the trip so I blew my load pretty quickly. But after a quick rinse in the shower and some chit chat while naked in the bed I was ready for round 2. Again great sex and this time I finished in doggy and decorated her back. She was very intimate and I had such great sex that I had a strong feeling that she would be hard to beat. But later that night I met girl #2.

Girl 2. Asked her to meet me at my hotel bar. This one was actually on time. This one was even more attractive than the first. We had a drink and I had a great chat with her as well. After we finished our drinks I was about to invite her up to my room, but before I could she asked if I wanted to have another drink at a different bar. That sounded like fun, so I agreed. She gave me the name of the place she wanted to go and I called a grab. We got to the bar and had a couple drinks. During this time she was getting more and more flirty and handsy. This was getting me aroused and at times causing me to get an erection that I was trying to hide as I didn't want other patrons of the bar seeing me walking around with a raging hard-on LOL. BTW I highly recommend cialis over viagra. At times I have difficulty getting it up when I go on sex marathons, and this was my first time using cialis. My friend told me how much better it is because you can just take it early in the day and you will be ready when it comes time, unlike viagra where you have to time it an hour before. Cialis worked like a charm. I took it a couple hours before meeting the first girl, and I was getting hard like a school boy 12 hours later even after having blown two loads earlier in the day. After a couple drinks we left and she led me around outside to get some late night street food. We then took a grab back to my hotel, where we showered together as I have been sweating buckets in the humid manila heat. Moved to the bed and had even better sex than the first girl. Even more intimate and more into it plus she was on birth control so let me cip. Took another quick shower and she asked if she could take a nap for a couple hours before she left. We went to sleep cuddled up and was awakened by her alarm a couple hours later. She said she was too sleepy and asked if she could just stay the rest of the night. Woke up in the morning and cuddled some more which led to hands roaming and I was hard again. Had a morning sex session, she washed up and left. There was a new front runner.

Day 2.

After Girl 2 left in the morning I did some sight seeing around Manila. After all I came for travel in addition to the girls. I don't like to be misleading, so I messaged Girl 1 to let her know that I met someone that I had a better connection with (although I lied and said I met her the day after instead of a few hours after she left LOL) and said I'm sorry but we probably won't be going to Boracay together. She said she understood. I also arranged another date with Girl 2 for the following day. She offered to spend the day with me and show me around Manila a bit. So we agree to a day date around the city then dinner. I had arranged a date with Girl 3 for the night but she messaged me to say that she was on her period, but that she was towards the end of it, so we postponed until Day 4. Girl 3 BTW is the only one who countered me and asked for more. She asked for 10 k each date and 40 k for the Boracay trip. This girl is insanely hot. She looked like a 10/10 absolute bombshell in her photos that I thought were too good to be true, but our video chat confirmed that she was real, and this was still far less than what I would pay for sugaring back home, so I agreed. After Girl 3 messaged to postpone, I tried messaging the two girls who I had been keeping in my back pocket who couldn't go with me for the weekend but still open to meet. One said she couldn't meet that night but the other was available. However the messages started to feel weird. She was way too eager in the messages with the "oh baby I can't wait to meet and fuck you" and "I can't wait to suck your dick". I tried to re-confirm with her the amount for the PPM, but each time I asked "so is 7 k good with you" instead of confirming she would just respond with "I want your cock so bad". I didn't like the way the conversation was going so I told her never mind and blocked her. It was late, so no sex this night.

Day 3.

Girl 2 again. Met at my hotel early afternoon, and she took me to a museum and we walked around SM MOA. When she suggested the mall I thought she would surely ask me to buy her something, but she just bought some stuff with her own money. After that dinner at a place I had been wanting to to go then back to my hotel for another round of great sex ending in cip. At this point I was pretty certain she is the one I'll be taking with me to Boracay as she was so fun to talk to and the sex has been fantastic. Only one round of sex but I was tired from all the walking around that day anyways. She said she couldn't meet the next two days as she had some stuff to do, so we agreed our next meet would be the day we leave for Boracay. This put me in a dilemma, as I had hoped the one I went with would meet up the day before the trip, so I can pay for the trip once I am certain of my choice, and I still hadn't met the insanely hot Girl 3. So I told Girl 2 that I wanted her to go with me, but I had hoped to meet the day before for me to buy the fights. She proposed instead that she buy the fights herself and that I just pay her back, which was the perfect solution. Again as I try to be honorable with the ladies I told her that I was meeting someone else the next day, so she told me to message her after my date to confirm. These girls probably already assume that men are seeing multiple girls anyways, so she didn't react negatively at all and was very understanding. At this point I thought Girls 4, 5 and 6 had virtually no chance of beating out Girl 2 as my time remaining in Manila was running short, so I let them know that sorry but I don't think it's happening. They were all very understanding.

Day 4.

I messaged Girl 3 to see what time she could meet up with me. While waiting her response I checked out a couple other museums. Girl 3 got back to me and said she was still on her period and didn't think she would be off it until the following day. At this point as much as it hurt me to give up on this bombshell, I told her that would be too late, and I will have to make a decision before then. She understood. But I still wanted to bang this girl badly I told her if she's open to just meeting for one PPM for the agreed upon 10 k I can see her the next day. She said she would get back to me. I never heard from her again. Meanwhile Girl 1 whom I have already told we were not going to Boracay together had been messaging me every day just to chat over whatsapp. So I figured maybe she just wants another PPM, so I asked if she wanted to meet up again just for a PPM. She said yes but that she wasn't going to be in the area until the next day. So we arranged to meet tomorrow instead. So then I reached out to the one back pocket girl I had remaining, and she was available. If she hadn't been available I probably would have ventured out to P Burgos, but backup girl met me at the hotel bar. Had a drink and yet another good chat before moving to my room. This one was the least attractive of the girls I've met, but still very attractive. The sex was yet again incredible. At this point I'm wondering is every girl in the Philippines very intimate and GFE or am I just getting lucky? This one was on birth control so I finished cip. A quick rinse in the shower, small talk in bed, then round 2 cip finish. She left and I slept like a baby.

Day 5.

I told Girl 2 we are good to go, so I told her the flight numbers of my departure and returning flights and she bought them and sent me a screenshot (came out to more than 9 k but less than 10 k). She told me she would be at my hotel 4 hours before flight time. She's been on time for our previous dates, so I wasn't too concerned about her showing up late and missing our flight. Spent my last full day in Manila checking out a few other places and eating at restaurants I had been wanting to go. After dinner Girl 1 arrived, and had another great time in the sack again but with no cip. She lives in a province about an hour away (2-3 hours by bus) so she said unfortunately could not stay for round 2. That was fine with me as the sex was so good anyways and she is so cute and pretty I felt like I got my money's worth. She left and I started to pack my things so I can be prepared to check out the next day.

Days 6-9.

I will keep this part just as a summary. Girl 2 arrived on time, I gave her 10 k for the flights and headed to the airport. The 3 nights in Boracay might be the best 3 night stretch of my life. Spending that time with a beautiful woman with plenty of sex at a resort with beautiful beaches and some fantastic snorkeling will be unforgettable. My suite came with a balcony hot tub and we made sure to have sex in that too. At the end gave her the agreed upon amount plus 5 k extra because she was everything I hoped for and more. We departed ways and she said if I'm ever in the Philippines again to give her a message. I don't know when I'll go back, but if I do I will definitely be reaching out to her.

I don't know if I just got lucky with the girls, but this was the best p4 p trip I've ever had. Sure I spent more than my trip to Thailand, but I literally had 100% of my sex encounters in the Philippines be with very attractive girls who all were very intimate and GFE. In Thailand I had some duds and some that were not as attractive. Compared to that I would gladly put up more again for what I had in the Philippines.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RainMania;2873114]For country bumpkin Filipinas who don't know what they're doing, yes they'll have a hard time getting through PH immigration.

But for those who do find their way through (and they do in their hundreds and thousands), their numbers are plentiful in HK, Korea, Japan, Taiwan and even the major cities of Mainland China. ST.[/QUOTE]You forgot Dubai where the top of the class lot go. Hooking runs in some families and they pass tips to each other, money to carry, line to tell at immigration etc. Like any other trade, you have fast learners and, as you say, country bumkins.

This feeds backwards. Why do short time in Manila when you can make 100 times the amount for less work in the ME.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2872079]

As an aside, not many girls can / will drop 10 k on an airfare at a moment's notice based solely on a monger's promise. He definitely had the cheat code for gaining the girls' trust and best performance.

Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]He already gave her more than that for meeting and one night. Besides she did not want to miss the big payout and trip to Boracay. She knows very well about the competition in Philippines for high paying client.

I would never pay that kind of money in Philippines and I have posted pictures of very pretty girls I have been with and paid much much less. S A girls joining that site to get maximum amount of money.

[QUOTE=MohdirFan82;2873049]Where do you guys buy your Antibiotic?

Seems I had too much fun and need to buy 1000 MG az.

I can buy in Bangkok but not sure in Manila.[/QUOTE]In any pharmacy. Get a prescription from a doctor first. Doc visit is 400-800 pesos.

I suggest you stock up in Bangkok.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2873110]As someone who lives in the Philippines, I can attest to the veracity of the above. Young womenparticularly those traveling alone or in small groupshave an extraordinarily difficult time leaving the country even with round trip tickets and sufficient cash to support themselves.[/QUOTE]This is called offloading and IO's have increased in their communist esq enforcement of these offloading rules.

The most polarizing case in recent times was a woman who was traveling to Israel and they held her until her flight took off so that she wasn't offloaded but missed her flight forfeiting the flight.

This is much more commonplace than people realize go ahead and search youtube for "manila offloading". Its extremally difficult for a single young woman to get past these OI's, It does happen and it does depend on the IO that you get so it is a bit of a crapshoot in terms of if the girl will get offloaded or not. Some OI's don't give a shit others are by the book.

I have included links at the bottom with the offloading guidelines and the actual document itself here ([URL]https://doj.gov.ph/files/2023/IACAT/2023%20Updated%20Guidelines%20[/URL](for%20 publishing) _1. Pdf).

And the actual IACAT post about the anti-trafficking rules.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/InterAgencyCouncilAgainstTrafficking/posts/pfbid02toR6k88uEuSwDcQWbfCBV6SaBY6AYkBD6SuuWW6EZgMDJwXgP7C98v3vgkKwnwLl[/URL]

Most of the "pinay" hookers that manage to sell themselves overseas do it on their off hours from their OFW work and very rarely on some kind of swapped visa visit run. For this reason the women are never very youthful outside phils they normally are run down and middle aged at best as to get by the IO's and to meet the IACAT requirements. When traveling in other countries I often times visit the OFW meat markets but they are far far worse quality than even that of Manila which some people already have a hard time with, OFW pinays are a joke and massively over priced for no good reason.

Any chance you could share seeking ID of those girls.

[QUOTE=CurtisMack;2871786]First off, thank you to all who helped me and answered my questions on this forum as I prepared for my trip and to all who have posted helpful reports. I could not have had as much success as I did without all your help.

This is going to be a long and detailed report, so TLDR I met girls from SA and had a blast with each one and took one with me to Boracay.

Although I stayed in a hotel in Makati, I am posting in the Manila forum as my experience could have been had anywhere in the Manila area, as I met girls only from SA and did not venture to P Burgos or any area specific to Makati (although I planned to visit P Burgos but was having too much fun with SA girl, so I scratched that plan).

Firstly the other dating sites. I also signed up for pinalove and filipinocupid, but did not meet any girls from those sites. A lot of the girls were, sorry to say, just not attractive enough for me. Also I was ignoring any profiles that were empty or near empty (just one or two sentences), had phone number in the profile or said "serious relationship only not for fun". That may have been a reason why I couldn't find any girls on those sites. There may have been some hot legit girls who were down for just fun among the ones I ignored. The few girls I did find extremely hot and met my profile requirements did not respond to my messages. I tried on those sites for a few days then gave up. There were just way too many profiles that did not interest me, and I use SA back home and am familiar with sugaring and just felt more comfortable using SA.

Now on to SA. As I mentioned in my previous posts, I was looking to have some fun in Manila then BYOG to Boracay, so I added "travel with you" to my "show members seeking" filter. I also added filters to "do not show members seeking" for "seeking transgender," and "seeking trans-friendly" (note I still got trans girls in my search, so be wary). I added some basic information about me and was up-front in my profile and stated that I was just looking for temporary fun and to find someone to go with me on a weekend getaway. About a week before my arrival I set my location to Makati and started going through profiles. I ignored profiles that were empty or near-empty, had only one photo, had only obviously filtered photos or had only "glam" photos and no "real" cellphone photos. I opened with a brief message that mentioned something from her profile to show I'm not just copy-pasting my messages and said that I would like to discuss arrangements outside of the site on whatsapp. I got a response from about half of the girls I messaged.

After moving to whatsapp I laid out my proposal. 3 k for first meet (coffee or drinks). If we move the meet to my hotel for a LT date another 4 k. Any additional LT dates 7 k each time. If she comes to Boracay with me (3 nights) then 35 k plus cost of travel. I specified that the 35 k would be given at the end of the trip as to protect myself from no-shows and bailers. Note that back home I never offer anything for first meet over coffee or drinks, as all of the SBs back home have cars and can drive themselves. I figured 3 K for just a meet would be enough to draw interest and an amount I would be okay with giving if things didn't proceed from there. It didn't matter in the end because no initial meet did not end up back in my hotel room, as I banged each girl I met. Also I know many of you will probably say I overpaid, but compared to sugaring back home it is just a fraction of the price. I wanted to make an offer that would get a lot of initial interest and was an amount I would be happy with.

From the messages I started blocking girls who either asked for money up front or asked if I wanted to buy pics / vids. One girl started giving me a sob story about family hospital bills, and although she didn't ask for money, my senses were telling me she would soon, so I told her I didn't think we would hit it off and blocked her. A couple girls told me up front that they would be unable to go with me to Boracay, but would still be open to meet up. I kept those girls in my back pocket.

Of the girls that were interested, some did not respond after first day of chatting. Of the ones that maintained contact, I started to talk in more detail about what I was looking for in arrangement. I mentioned that I liked BBBJ, DATY and bb sex. Those that did not want to do those I told them sorry it won't work out and ended communication. Of those that were okay with those, I requested a quick video chat. There was none who denied, so it was easy to verify all of the girls I was still chatting with were real and can speak English very well. At this point I was left with six potentials.

Day 1 - Girls 1 and 2.

Girl 1. Met at Starbucks. We met early afternoon, as I had planned to meet with another girl later that night. She was an hour and half late, but as previous posts in this thread had mentioned, this was expected and I prepared for that by choosing the Starbucks right across the street from my hotel. She was super cute and even better looking in person compared to our video chat. No extra fat on her and very attractive. We had a great chat, and she was very excited about the possibility of going to Boracay, as she said she has never been. It was time to see how we got along in the sack. I invited her up to my hotel room where we chatted a little more on the couch before things started to get handsy and soon we were making out. BBBJ on the couch before we moved to the bed where we had excellent sex. She tasted clean. She said she wasn't on birth control so asked me to finish outside so I obliged and decorated her stomach. First sex of the trip so I blew my load pretty quickly. But after a quick rinse in the shower and some chit chat while naked in the bed I was ready for round 2. Again great sex and this time I finished in doggy and decorated her back. She was very intimate and I had such great sex that I had a strong feeling that she would be hard to beat. But later that night I met girl #2.

Girl 2. Asked her to meet me at my hotel bar. This one was actually on time. This one was even more attractive than the first. We had a drink and I had a great chat with her as well. After we finished our drinks I was about to invite her up to my room, but before I could she asked if I wanted to have another drink at a different bar. That sounded like fun, so I agreed. She gave me the name of the place she wanted to go and I called a grab. We got to the bar and had a couple drinks. During this time she was getting more and more flirty and handsy. This was getting me aroused and at times causing me to get an erection that I was trying to hide as I didn't want other patrons of the bar seeing me walking around with a raging hard-on LOL. BTW I highly recommend cialis over viagra. At times I have difficulty getting it up when I go on sex marathons, and this was my first time using cialis. My friend told me how much better it is because you can just take it early in the day and you will be ready when it comes time, unlike viagra where you have to time it an hour before. Cialis worked like a charm. I took it a couple hours before meeting the first girl, and I was getting hard like a school boy 12 hours later even after having blown two loads earlier in the day. After a couple drinks we left and she led me around outside to get some late night street food. We then took a grab back to my hotel, where we showered together as I have been sweating buckets in the humid manila heat. Moved to the bed and had even better sex than the first girl. Even more intimate and more into it plus she was on birth control so let me cip. Took another quick shower and she asked if she could take a nap for a couple hours before she left. We went to sleep cuddled up and was awakened by her alarm a couple hours later. She said she was too sleepy and asked if she could just stay the rest of the night. Woke up in the morning and cuddled some more which led to hands roaming and I was hard again. Had a morning sex session, she washed up and left. There was a new front runner.

Day 2.

After Girl 2 left in the morning I did some sight seeing around Manila. After all I came for travel in addition to the girls. I don't like to be misleading, so I messaged Girl 1 to let her know that I met someone that I had a better connection with (although I lied and said I met her the day after instead of a few hours after she left LOL) and said I'm sorry but we probably won't be going to Boracay together. She said she understood. I also arranged another date with Girl 2 for the following day. She offered to spend the day with me and show me around Manila a bit. So we agree to a day date around the city then dinner. I had arranged a date with Girl 3 for the night but she messaged me to say that she was on her period, but that she was towards the end of it, so we postponed until Day 4. Girl 3 BTW is the only one who countered me and asked for more. She asked for 10 k each date and 40 k for the Boracay trip. This girl is insanely hot. She looked like a 10/10 absolute bombshell in her photos that I thought were too good to be true, but our video chat confirmed that she was real, and this was still far less than what I would pay for sugaring back home, so I agreed. After Girl 3 messaged to postpone, I tried messaging the two girls who I had been keeping in my back pocket who couldn't go with me for the weekend but still open to meet. One said she couldn't meet that night but the other was available. However the messages started to feel weird. She was way too eager in the messages with the "oh baby I can't wait to meet and fuck you" and "I can't wait to suck your dick". I tried to re-confirm with her the amount for the PPM, but each time I asked "so is 7 k good with you" instead of confirming she would just respond with "I want your cock so bad". I didn't like the way the conversation was going so I told her never mind and blocked her. It was late, so no sex this night.

Day 3.

Girl 2 again. Met at my hotel early afternoon, and she took me to a museum and we walked around SM MOA. When she suggested the mall I thought she would surely ask me to buy her something, but she just bought some stuff with her own money. After that dinner at a place I had been wanting to to go then back to my hotel for another round of great sex ending in cip. At this point I was pretty certain she is the one I'll be taking with me to Boracay as she was so fun to talk to and the sex has been fantastic. Only one round of sex but I was tired from all the walking around that day anyways. She said she couldn't meet the next two days as she had some stuff to do, so we agreed our next meet would be the day we leave for Boracay. This put me in a dilemma, as I had hoped the one I went with would meet up the day before the trip, so I can pay for the trip once I am certain of my choice, and I still hadn't met the insanely hot Girl 3. So I told Girl 2 that I wanted her to go with me, but I had hoped to meet the day before for me to buy the fights. She proposed instead that she buy the fights herself and that I just pay her back, which was the perfect solution. Again as I try to be honorable with the ladies I told her that I was meeting someone else the next day, so she told me to message her after my date to confirm. These girls probably already assume that men are seeing multiple girls anyways, so she didn't react negatively at all and was very understanding. At this point I thought Girls 4, 5 and 6 had virtually no chance of beating out Girl 2 as my time remaining in Manila was running short, so I let them know that sorry but I don't think it's happening. They were all very understanding.

Day 4.

I messaged Girl 3 to see what time she could meet up with me. While waiting her response I checked out a couple other museums. Girl 3 got back to me and said she was still on her period and didn't think she would be off it until the following day. At this point as much as it hurt me to give up on this bombshell, I told her that would be too late, and I will have to make a decision before then. She understood. But I still wanted to bang this girl badly I told her if she's open to just meeting for one PPM for the agreed upon 10 k I can see her the next day. She said she would get back to me. I never heard from her again. Meanwhile Girl 1 whom I have already told we were not going to Boracay together had been messaging me every day just to chat over whatsapp. So I figured maybe she just wants another PPM, so I asked if she wanted to meet up again just for a PPM. She said yes but that she wasn't going to be in the area until the next day. So we arranged to meet tomorrow instead. So then I reached out to the one back pocket girl I had remaining, and she was available. If she hadn't been available I probably would have ventured out to P Burgos, but backup girl met me at the hotel bar. Had a drink and yet another good chat before moving to my room. This one was the least attractive of the girls I've met, but still very attractive. The sex was yet again incredible. At this point I'm wondering is every girl in the Philippines very intimate and GFE or am I just getting lucky? This one was on birth control so I finished cip. A quick rinse in the shower, small talk in bed, then round 2 cip finish. She left and I slept like a baby.

Day 5.

I told Girl 2 we are good to go, so I told her the flight numbers of my departure and returning flights and she bought them and sent me a screenshot (came out to more than 9 k but less than 10 k). She told me she would be at my hotel 4 hours before flight time. She's been on time for our previous dates, so I wasn't too concerned about her showing up late and missing our flight. Spent my last full day in Manila checking out a few other places and eating at restaurants I had been wanting to go. After dinner Girl 1 arrived, and had another great time in the sack again but with no cip. She lives in a province about an hour away (2-3 hours by bus) so she said unfortunately could not stay for round 2. That was fine with me as the sex was so good anyways and she is so cute and pretty I felt like I got my money's worth. She left and I started to pack my things so I can be prepared to check out the next day.

Days 6-9.

I will keep this part just as a summary. Girl 2 arrived on time, I gave her 10 k for the flights and headed to the airport. The 3 nights in Boracay might be the best 3 night stretch of my life. Spending that time with a beautiful woman with plenty of sex at a resort with beautiful beaches and some fantastic snorkeling will be unforgettable. My suite came with a balcony hot tub and we made sure to have sex in that too. At the end gave her the agreed upon amount plus 5 k extra because she was everything I hoped for and more. We departed ways and she said if I'm ever in the Philippines again to give her a message. I don't know when I'll go back, but if I do I will definitely be reaching out to her.

I don't know if I just got lucky with the girls, but this was the best p4 p trip I've ever had. Sure I spent more than my trip to Thailand, but I literally had 100% of my sex encounters in the Philippines be with very attractive girls who all were very intimate and GFE. In Thailand I had some duds and some that were not as attractive. Compared to that I would gladly put up more again for what I had in the Philippines.[/QUOTE]

Yes, offloading does happen, but the percentage of single travelling filioinas who get offloaded is tiny compared to those who make it through.

Example: [URL]https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-seoul/busty-vixen[/URL].

She's not an OFW. She's been plying her trade all over East and SE Asia since at least 2016. I've availed of her services and yes it wasn't worth what she was charging even back then (50% of current rates) despite her literally looking like a prime Kim Kardashian back then. There are far more Filipinas on insta and other places that are doing this kind of work abroad and earning big bucks for a few weeks / months before returning home for the rest of the year. They recruit new members to their groups and help each other through the process financially and logistically (for a cut of the proceeds of course).

My point is these Filipinas may no longer need to travel abroad to earn the big bucks if there are more and more foreign customers willing to pay them western prices in the Philippines. More win for the girl, less overhead cost and more security.