Hong Kong Club Reports

[QUOTE=ToungeFlicker;2938009]Staying at tropical overnight. Can we hang at the bar while waiting on check in? Flight lands at noon in Tijuana and check in not until 3, so that's almost 3 hours to wait with my stuff. Any suggestions.[/QUOTE]Depending on the day of the week and how busy they are sometimes they'll let you check in a bit early (though definitely wouldn't count on that honestly). I've never stayed at Tropical's hotel but I very regularly stay at HK's hotel (Cascadas) across the street that's owned by the same folks. At HK they have a waiting room in the main lobby where you can wait with your bags until your check-in time, Tropical's hotel might have a similar waiting room though I wouldn't know. At either hotel I'm sure they'd let you check your bags with them for a little bit while you go down to the bar, though they might expect a small tip as a courtesy.

[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2937892]Recently a girl that works in a restaurant that we frequent somewhere in Zona Rio was on to me. She told my buddy she wants to know me more. Later visit I was there, asked her for her phone and she gave it to me with a big smile on her face. Then the lack of civic experience I talked about hit home. I felt uncomfortable and thought with the language and in your face sexual advances I am used to in the zona I'd fack it all up. I felt uneasy about the restraint that comes with dating and most of all dreaded the high chance of disappointing her being outright direct about everything. I haven't called her and I stopped going to that restaurant. In the Zona I am happy, relaxed and somewhat Euphoric. When I think of civic dating I feel gloom and doom, restrained and nervous.[/QUOTE]I also don't have any experience with civvies but had a somewhat similar experience on my last trip in May. Went to a new spot I'd never been to on Revolucion and was cracking jokes with a bunch of the folks who worked there. As I'm heading out to leave one of the male servers slips me a paper with the name and number of one of the girls working in the back who wrote down her name and number on the paper for him to give to me (I never even noticed her when I was there since she was in the back). Ended up messaging her on Whats App later that day, seemed to be a pleasant, pretty enough girl. She wants to meet up and go on a date the next time I'm in Tijuana. Still debating whether I should go through with that. One big thing there is the girl doesn't speak English, so a true "date" would probably be hella awkward, LOL. One of my favorite regular chicas at HK I've been seeing for a few years now also speaks zero English but that seems way different. Also not really interested in "dating" any of these chicas, quick hook-ups are much more my thing in Tijuana. But she seems nice so we'll see when I'm out there next month.

[QUOTE=KetoAndKettle;2938080]I would completely move to Mexico, but the only thing that stops me is the policia stuff. Too much corruption within their departments. Wouldn't be able to take a leisurely walk down to the cafe' from my home without worrying about being hassled by one that decides he wants some extra pesos to spend that day. Mexicanas are my fave, dead stop.[/QUOTE]LOS bed in Tijuana for many years and never stopped by a cop when walking around and the times it happened while driving was because I did something wrong and was just given a ticket no bribe.

[QUOTE=SeaBeeJoe;2937988]Your afraid of rejection which is a normal human thought. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7zn8ixycEU[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks. Guy talks facts. Makes a lot of sense. Would I do what he advises?. The immediate necessity has to be there for the majority of us to make the effort to do better things, only few %age of people in this world go out of their way to learn better things without that precence of immediate necessity. Those people are extremely high achievers.

It is an excellent advice the video gives though if followed with action.

[QUOTE=BrotherMouzone;2938113]I also don't have any experience with civvies but had a somewhat similar experience on my last trip in May. Went to a new spot I'd never been to on Revolucion and was cracking jokes with a bunch of the folks who worked there. As I'm heading out to leave one of the male servers slips me a paper with the name and number of one of the girls working in the back who wrote down her name and number on the paper for him to give to me (I never even noticed her when I was there since she was in the back). Ended up messaging her on Whats App later that day, seemed to be a pleasant, pretty enough girl. She wants to meet up and go on a date the next time I'm in Tijuana. Still debating whether I should go through with that. One big thing there is the girl doesn't speak English, so a true "date" would probably be hella awkward, LOL. One of my favorite regular chicas at HK I've been seeing for a few years now also speaks zero English but that seems way different. Also not really interested in "dating" any of these chicas, quick hook-ups are much more my thing in Tijuana. But she seems nice so we'll see when I'm out there next month.[/QUOTE]I have another story where a bar server girl gave me her number while serving us in a bar in the Aqua Rio area. The way this girl talked gave me the confidence to approach our interaction exactly the way I interact with the girls in the zona. I was right, my feelings were correct. I wrote her after some back and forth about life, saying that I wanted to see her in my hotel room in Tropical and that I would compensate her for her time. We met in the big bar by Rivo, we grabbed a taxi, took her to my hotel room. We facked like rabbits for 2 hours, and I gave her $120 and sent her away in a taxi.

The following meeting, we met in the big bar again, but for some reason, she was a different person. She was saying she was a special girl, blah blah blah. I felt uneasy taking her; she was combative, rude, and demanding. I left her there, right on Rivo, and walked away. Never seen her again. My buddy told me she is now working in HK.

A second story in the US is that, I saw a beautiful girl in a gas station filling her car. I was behind her, filling gas in my car. We both left the gas station, I was driving to work, and on the way there was a big Marriott hotel. She went into the hotel's driveway. For some reason, I felt compelled to talk to her. She stopped, and as she walked towards the main hotel entrance, I waited for her there and said Hi when she approached. I asked her if she was staying in the hotel, and if she was, I'd like to spend time with her for sex. She asked me if I was a cop, and I said no. We went up together, and I faked her, paid her and left.

The reason I bring up these stories is to demo the effect the "right" feelings one gets have on self and how they allow to act while the wrong feelings stifle. Feelings are not always based on facts but they are powerful. When we learn things what we are doing is shaping our thinking, which become feelings, which become habits.

Always kills the vibe when you have a chica's whatsapp number and you text back and forth for a while like normal people and then they finally pop the question asking you to send money to them via western union for some random shit.

It literally destroys the vibe and any trust you can have in that person anymore. It's a lose lose situation for the guy imo because if you say yes and give money you are basically saying you're a simp with no backbackone who is easily exploited. Yet, if you say no, the entire "relationship" is gone and they will probably stop talking to you or going arriba with you at the club.

Happens everytime. Is this normal culture in Mexico for all these girls to always ask for money or is it just be / see we are dealing with entitled scheming hookers from HK?

Thoughts?

[QUOTE=ABAJoeSmith123;2938466]Always kills the vibe when you have a chica's whatsapp number and you text back and forth for a while like normal people and then they finally pop the question asking you to send money to them via western union for some random shit.

It literally destroys the vibe and any trust you can have in that person anymore. It's a lose lose situation for the guy imo because if you say yes and give money you are basically saying you're a simp with no backbackone who is easily exploited. Yet, if you say no, the entire "relationship" is gone and they will probably stop talking to you or going arriba with you at the club.

Happens everytime. Is this normal culture in Mexico for all these girls to always ask for money or is it just be / see we are dealing with entitled scheming hookers from HK?

Thoughts?[/QUOTE]Honestly have not had too many chicas ask me for money. In all my years going to Tijuana none of the girls I've hooked up with more than once, including my regular chicas who I see much more frequently, have asked me for money. Have had a handful or so of girls ask for money after hooking up with them once and then chatting with them for several weeks on Whats App but that's been more an exception to the rule, most girls have never asked. I'll note that I live on the East Coast so am probably not in Tijuana nearly as much as you all who are having this issue.

Most of the time that I've been asked for money it's been under the premise of the girl living in another part of Mexico far from Tijuana and needing the money to fly to Tijuana so they can see me and work in the clubs. One girl a few years ago asked me for money because she'd been out of work for a while due to a plastic surgery (breast implants, butt lift or whatever) that had a complication resulting in her being out longer than expected.

I always quickly say no to money requests, basically tell them I don't have any extra money for them. Couldn't ever see myself giving any extra money to any these chicas, outside of a small tip if I enjoyed their services or several ficha drinks if I enjoy their company. No problem taking them out to lunch / dinner or occasionally buying them a (nonextravagant) gift but boggles my mind that dudes actually give these chicas large sums of money because they want to stay connected to them. Also, I don't at all see it as a "lose lose" situation when a chica asks for money. If the girl you say no to never speaks to you again, in my mind that's clear "win" as there are countless other fish out there in the sea.

With all of the above said, I fully support the girls asking dudes for money. If I was in their situation, it's what I'd do probably. There are many, many, many simps out there who will say "yes" and a lot of these girls get really good over time at feeling out which dudes they can most easily extract $$$ out of. More power to them for getting as much money as they can out of some of these dudes who come to strip clubs looking for long-term relationships, it's just they're damn sure not going to be getting that kind of money out of me LOL. I don't see chicas asking for $$$ from dudes as "entitled" or "scheming" as you put it. Given all the simps out there who are actually willing to just hand over money to these girls upon request, why not ask? Doesn't offend me personally, I just look at it as part of the business.

[QUOTE=BrotherMouzone;2938571]Honestly have not had too many chicas ask me for money. In all my years going to Tijuana none of the girls I've hooked up with more than once, including my regular chicas who I see much more frequently, have asked me for money. Have had a handful or so of girls ask for money after hooking up with them once and then chatting with them for several weeks on Whats App but that's been more an exception to the rule, most girls have never asked. I'll note that I live on the East Coast so am probably not in Tijuana nearly as much as you all who are having this issue.

Most of the time that I've been asked for money it's been under the premise of the girl living in another part of Mexico far from Tijuana and needing the money to fly to Tijuana so they can see me and work in the clubs. One girl a few years ago asked me for money because she'd been out of work for a while due to a plastic surgery (breast implants, butt lift or whatever) that had a complication resulting in her being out longer than expected.

I always quickly say no to money requests, basically tell them I don't have any extra money for them. Couldn't ever see myself giving any extra money to any these chicas, outside of a small tip if I enjoyed their services or several ficha drinks if I enjoy their company. No problem taking them out to lunch / dinner or occasionally buying them a (nonextravagant) gift but boggles my mind that dudes actually give these chicas large sums of money because they want to stay connected to them. Also, I don't at all see it as a "lose lose" situation when a chica asks for money. If the girl you say no to never speaks to you again, in my mind that's clear "win" as there are countless other fish out there in the sea.

With all of the above said, I fully support the girls asking dudes for money. If I was in their situation, it's what I'd do probably. There are many, many, many simps out there who will say "yes" and a lot of these girls get really good over time at feeling out which dudes they can most easily extract $$$ out of. More power to them for getting as much money as they can out of some of these dudes who come to strip clubs looking for long-term relationships, it's just they're damn sure not going to be getting that kind of money out of me LOL. I don't see chicas asking for $$$ from dudes as "entitled" or "scheming" as you put it. Given all the simps out there who are actually willing to just hand over money to these girls upon request, why not ask? Doesn't offend me personally, I just look at it as part of the business.[/QUOTE]I met a girl in the bar I started "dating". She never charged me once we developed a relationship. After several years and trips she figured out I'd never marry her then she asked for $$ That's when it ended.

[QUOTE=ABAJoeSmith123;2938466]Always kills the vibe when you have a chica's whatsapp number and you text back and forth for a while like normal people and then they finally pop the question asking you to send money to them via western union for some random shit.

It literally destroys the vibe and any trust you can have in that person anymore. It's a lose lose situation for the guy imo because if you say yes and give money you are basically saying you're a simp with no backbackone who is easily exploited. Yet, if you say no, the entire "relationship" is gone and they will probably stop talking to you or going arriba with you at the club.

Happens everytime. Is this normal culture in Mexico for all these girls to always ask for money or is it just be / see we are dealing with entitled scheming hookers from HK?

Thoughts?[/QUOTE]They are not civilians, they see you as a source of income, there business. Even in the normal dating world you are seen as the provider even when she makes more money, if she doesn't see you as the provider of survival, protection, emotional support, money, access, etc. then she will inherently treat you like a piece of shit, she can't see you a suitable man, her pussy dries and every fiber in her being stands to despise you. That is the nature of women towards men they don't find unsuitable. We are different, if she has pretty feet we give her our house, if her feet are ugly, we puke if she talk's to us. (replace feet with whatever floats your boat) Have you not seen the rooster providing food to his chicken and the second she grabs the food he mounts her. Through out nature's most replicating systems the feminine and masculine exist that way.

[QUOTE=ABAJoeSmith123;2938466]Always kills the vibe when you have a chica's whatsapp number and you text back and forth for a while like normal people and then they finally pop the question asking you to send money to them via western union for some random shit.

It literally destroys the vibe and any trust you can have in that person anymore. It's a lose lose situation for the guy imo because if you say yes and give money you are basically saying you're a simp with no backbackone who is easily exploited. Yet, if you say no, the entire "relationship" is gone and they will probably stop talking to you or going arriba with you at the club.

Happens everytime. Is this normal culture in Mexico for all these girls to always ask for money or is it just be / see we are dealing with entitled scheming hookers from HK?[/QUOTE]Let me say 2 things.

First, I always say I have no way to send money. I say I have global entry and all of my digital transactions are inspected in order for me to keep it and anything that looks suspicious, like sending money to random people in a foreign country, could get me into trouble. Is it true? No. Have they ever once said Wait I know how global entry works and that's not how it works. Also no.

Second, cmon people. I swear these boards, globally, are populated by people who seem continuously shocked to find out that girls they pay to have sex with are, gasp, only in it for the money. And that absent the potential or promise of money, they're not wasting their time talking to some dude who comes across the border periodically to have sex and return home. These girls are simple people but not that simple.

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2938768]Let me say 2 things.

First, I always say I have no way to send money. I say I have global entry and all of my digital transactions are inspected in order for me to keep it and anything that looks suspicious, like sending money to random people in a foreign country, could get me into trouble. Is it true? No. Have they ever once said Wait I know how global entry works and that's not how it works. Also no.

Second, cmon people. I swear these boards, globally, are populated by people who seem continuously shocked to find out that girls they pay to have sex with are, gasp, only in it for the money. And that absent the potential or promise of money, they're not wasting their time talking to some dude who comes across the border periodically to have sex and return home. These girls are simple people but not that simple.[/QUOTE]First, why lie? Second, just say no. I don't understand going through the trouble to concoct a false story.

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2938768]Let me say 2 things.

First, I always say I have no way to send money. I say I have global entry and all of my digital transactions are inspected in order for me to keep it and anything that looks suspicious, like sending money to random people in a foreign country, could get me into trouble. Is it true? No. Have they ever once said Wait I know how global entry works and that's not how it works. Also no.

Second, cmon people. I swear these boards, globally, are populated by people who seem continuously shocked to find out that girls they pay to have sex with are, gasp, only in it for the money. And that absent the potential or promise of money, they're not wasting their time talking to some dude who comes across the border periodically to have sex and return home. These girls are simple people but not that simple.[/QUOTE]I agree I don't recommend sending any of those zona norte girls money or any women other then your wife. Why pay money to have a retainer girlfriend aka a hooker. Lets be honest she is asking other guys for money too, you aren't the only one. Plus she is spending all that money on her broke boyfriend aka the pimp. She is not your girl it is just your turn!

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2938768]
Second, cmon people. I swear these boards, globally, are populated by people who seem continuously shocked to find out that girls they pay to have sex with are, gasp, only in it for the money. And that absent the potential or promise of money, they're not wasting their time talking to some dude who comes across the border periodically to have sex and return home. These girls are simple people but not that simple.[/QUOTE]This. And what do you think they're going to do for money when you're not around or sending it to them?

And no, I'm not mad at them for it. It would be kinda silly for them not to do it.

[QUOTE=Boomshaka;2938876]This. And what do you think they're going to do for money when you're not around or sending it to them?

And no, I'm not mad at them for it. It would be kinda silly for them not to do it.[/QUOTE]Exactly. There's no sense in hating the squirrel because it wants the nut.

You know what game you're getting into people. Stop being so shocked that it's exactly as it promised to be before you started playing. You didn't find these girls working in the library or volunteering at the food shelter. You wouldn't befriend them without the potential for sex. Is it really so different from their side?

[QUOTE=Boomshaka;2938876]This. And what do you think they're going to do for money when you're not around or sending it to them?

And no, I'm not mad at them for it. It would be kinda silly for them not to do it.[/QUOTE]If we're not giving it, one of the other 50 men they have on whatsapp is probably giving it to them. If she's not sucking your genitals, she's probably busy deepthroating the 20 other guys that also thought she was hot at the club.

I once had a pretty long term / serious relationship with an HK chica and the day after I broke up, I already see her posting photos of her going to some dude's private hotel outside the club, obviously getting ready for a night of smashing. That kind of trust doesn't develop overnight. It takes repeated encounters to build that rapport for an HK chica to trust taking you to her personal bedroom. Basically, my point is that these HK chicas will always play you and they have many boyfriend mongers outside the club that you are not aware of even if you think you're in a meaningful relationship with them and that you are their boyfriend. As close as you think you are, they are smashing all sorts of guys on the side they never tell you about. Likewise, they are getting money from all sorts of guys as well even if you think you are the only one they are asking.