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I am ashamed I am not a newibie using Western Union to send $$ to PI. I have been going there for decades and have had numerous main squeezes whom I have helped out at times. I just learned something about WU I had not known before- Thought I would pass this on.

Recently a buddy damaged his ATM card and asked me to send him $500 usd. I did so via my WU online account using my debit card. The "fee" for sending 500 usd was $7. The site defaults to paying out at the WU payout location in Pesos. The exchange rate they give you is shitty 46 peso / usd, but what are you to do. I have done this many times in the past and just accepted that is just another cost of doing business.

My buddy did a little research and told me that I have the option to have the payout be in USD and he suggested I do that and he will just take the 500 USD down the street and exchange it at the cambios at 49 peso / usd rate. The difference for this $500 transaction amounts to 1,500 peso (roughly $30 usd difference). -- so instead of the fee being $7 to send $500, the true fee is more like $37.

Many years ago I had tried to have the payout be in USD for this exact reason, but I was told then that the payout location only had pesos and that the USD payout option was off the table. Well- I decided to give it a try again this time. Sure enough I was able to select the USD payout option online, but I still suspected that when he presented at the WU office for pickup he would be instructed that: "sorry sir-- only pesos to give".

WHAT he / WE LEARNED:

He picked up the money at a WU office near Dau bus depot. He was indeed told they only had pesos, but when he put up a stink that he knew I designated USD to be dispensed they quickly agreed and paid out at the true market rate (49/ usd) rate. They also informed him the the WU offices on fields do not pay out at the same rate because they are in a 'tourist zone".

SOooo-.

#1 If you are sending money via WU to be picked up at location (as opposed to deposit into a bank account) you are much better off designating the payout to be in USD rather than pesos. If you choose pesos the exchange rate will be very shitty.

#2 You may find that a WU payout location away from Fields Ave will be easier to deal with and give a better rate when they do the onsite exchange.

#3 Have the payee stick to their guns and insist that USD be given because they know that USD was designated as the payout mode option. If the payout location cannot handover the US currency make sure you get a 'fair' exchange rate comparable to the going exchange rate at Normas or Natalia.

I found this all to be enlightening and thought I would pass this on. Just an FYI.

[QUOTE=TroyBoy;1965922]Recently a buddy damaged his ATM card and asked me to send him $500 usd. I did so via my WU online account using my debit card. The "fee" for sending 500 usd was $7. The site defaults to paying out at the WU payout location in Pesos. The exchange rate they give you is shitty 46 peso / usd, but what are you to do. I have done this many times in the past and just accepted that is just another cost of doing business.[/QUOTE]It says right on the WU website, something akin to this: "In addition to charging you a fee to transmit money, we also make money on the exchange rate". I believe that all the remit services do that. However, one of them (I think its [URL]remitly.com[/URL]) brags / shows on its site their current exchange rate, which is usually about p1 less than the street rate, on any given day. For example, if today's street rates are averaging p49/$1, then [URL]remitly.com[/URL] often shows p48 (about) on their site when sending money.

[QUOTE=TroyBoy;1965922]I am ashamed I am not a newibie using Western Union to send $$ to PI. I have been going there for decades and have had numerous main squeezes whom I have helped out at times. I just learned something about WU I had not known before- Thought I would pass this on.
.[/QUOTE]You forgot to mention the tax on Peso payouts, I think it's 0. 17% which is also deducted.

Some days WU is better than other exchanges.

The WU offices away from Tourist Zone will often (IME) have limited Peso cash available.

The good news when you do have the peso cash, beer, cigarettes and women are good value regardless of the exchange rate.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1966211]You forgot to mention the tax on Peso payouts, I think it's 0. 17% which is also deducted.

Some days WU is better than other exchanges.

The WU offices away from Tourist Zone will often (IME) have limited Peso cash available.

The good news when you do have the peso cash, beer, cigarettes and women are good value regardless of the exchange rate.[/QUOTE]Agree that beer in some bars is good value, cigarettes are cheap everywhere.

But I would not call the many below average chubby girls in most Angeles bars who think they are worth 3000 p ($60 us) and some even 4000 p ($80 us) for mostly always 1 pop good value by any stretch of the imagination.

The much older fat girls with little choice than to charge a slightly lower prices might seem good value to some but are a very much an acquired taste IMHO.

Now if we are talking better looking, slimmer girls in Manila or Cebu then that figure climbs to 6000-8000 p ($120-$160 us) so more expensive than most 1st world countries.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1966211]women are good value regardless of the exchange rate.[/QUOTE]From the US point of view, the girls are fantastic values.

The cheapest you will get in Los Angeles County (Figueroa Blvd) is probably $40 for a quickie with an ugly streetwalker skank.

The AMP in LA will cost you $50 plus $100 tip. That will usually be with a marginal, middle aged Korean girl for 30 minutes. Note: Hawaiian AMP are the probably the best. Total cost of $200 for 1 hour max.

Then you have the Backpage girls, plus other sites. They should run between $100 to $200 for 30 minutes. Most guys complain that the girls pictured are not quite the same as you get. IMO, none of the real (not the fake picture) Backpage girls can be classified as stunners.

There is no way you can get a stunner for even close to $160 for even 30 minutes. I don't know the exact prices for the stunners; those websites are expense. My budget doesn't support that.

The Philippines has a fantastic value. Between $60 to $160 for cute girls for 2 or 3 hours. IMO in Angeles, 2 or 3 hours is probably the max time the popular girls will agree to if they don't do long time.

Yes, when we are in the Philippines, we have to remember we are not in the US.

Any word on good New Years Eve party's etc? The Scorebirds pool party is every Saturday and NY eve is Saturday. Will it be occurring? Also, ABC's rooftop party occurs, but there are no party girls invited to the party (like the pool party's have). So I need to bring a girl I guess if they let in working girls.

I wonder what the tourists do on NY eve in AC. Where is the fun at? Will Hi Society have a good party that will be good by midnight?

The Bureau of Immigration (BI) has arrested a total of 1,240 illegal Chinese workers inside a posh rest and recreation center in Clark, Pampanga.

In a report to BI Commissioner Jaime Morente, the joint operation against the Chinese nationals were conducted by the BI's Fugitive Search Unit and the Angeles City Police led by Senior Superintendent Sidney Villafor.

"Our immigration officers have started conducting verification of passports (of the suspects)," Morente said.

Read more: [URL]http://globalnation.inquirer.net/150099/immigration-arrests-1240-illegal-chinese-workers-pampanga[/URL]#ixzz4 R5 cjfKEV.

These developments will certainly put a dent in the number of Chinese mongers in AC. If BI is going after the Chinese while Du30 is getting more cozy with Xi Jinping, the Korean entertainment venues may be next although they tend to limit Korean staff to low visibility management positions.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;1966586]From the US point of view, the girls are fantastic values.

The cheapest you will get in Los Angeles County (Figueroa Blvd) is probably $40 for a quickie with an ugly streetwalker skank.

The AMP in LA will cost you $50 plus $100 tip. That will usually be with a marginal, middle aged Korean girl for 30 minutes. Note: Hawaiian AMP are the probably the best. Total cost of $200 for 1 hour max.

Then you have the Backpage girls, plus other sites. They should run between $100 to $200 for 30 minutes. Most guys complain that the girls pictured are not quite the same as you get. IMO, none of the real (not the fake picture) Backpage girls can be classified as stunners.

There is no way you can get a stunner for even close to $160 for even 30 minutes. I don't know the exact prices for the stunners; those websites are expense..[/QUOTE]Not sure where your logic is here, does it not cost large sums of money to holiday in the pi for american citizens?

Lets take a typical 10 day trip.

Air fare round trip, lets say the cheapest economy seat for arguments sake,$1000.

10 days in a reasonable Angeles hotel will set one back another $1000.

Lets say one is self employed or does not get paid for days away from work so lets say another $1000 dollars in lost sales or salary for the 10 days.

Lets add travel insurance, getting to and from airports, few new summer clothes and some presents for the girls and we are up to almost $3,500 us that's before one has done any fucking in the pi.

Now I have never mongered in the us but I am sure for $3,500 one can have one hell of a good party with some hookers there without having to leave the comfort of his own home.

Just as a side note on a very recent trip to Manchester UK very nice looking, slim Polish girl 22 years old advertising her services in the local newspaper personals, services was 50 ($60) per hour, included BJ and full sex even made me a cup of tea with biscuits after LOL.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1966761]does it not cost large sums of money to holiday in the pi for american citizens[/QUOTE]Duh! No shit.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1966761]Not sure where your logic is here,[/QUOTE]I know. You never do.

The other guy's post was a SIMPLE "girls are a good value", and you incorrectly corrected him and wrote on the title, "almost correct" with your dubious info of the following:

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1966242]Now if we are talking better looking, slimmer girls in Manila or Cebu then that figure climbs to 6000-8000 p ($120-$160 us) so more expensive than most 1st world countries.[/QUOTE]You're justifying your "almost correct" with lame info. No way you can get Manila type of girls that cost 8000 pesos ($160 for a few hours) for cheaper in the 1st world. You actually wrote, "so more expensive"...I don't think so.

I don't like to talk to a brick wall. I did not initially reply to your quote. If you don't reply to my quote, then I won't reply to your's. In your obnoxious, retarded PM, you wrote you will ignore me. Please do.

Not sure what part of if one is to compare the price of sex from ones home country to another destination then one would have to factor in the costs involved with getting there you do not understand.

As for paying $160 us for a short time with a pi prostitute I have to say that I have never in my 20 years of visiting the pi seen a bar girl that was worth any where near that amount of money IMHO.

Trying to Compare pi bargirls to other 1st world countries for looks / body / attitude is just a non comparison hence Angeles bars and streets are dead this high season, many bars having not even 1 customer, most bars with dreadful line ups, Manila bars not much better, low numbers of customers and very few lookers.

People have voted with their feet to either stay home or monger in countries where the girls cost is relative to their looks / body / attitude IMHO.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1966761]Just as a side note on a very recent trip to Manchester UK very nice looking, slim Polish girl 22 years old advertising her services in the local newspaper personals, services was 50 ($60) per hour, included BJ and full sex even made me a cup of tea with biscuits after LOL.[/QUOTE]That would be out of the norm.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1966242]Now if we are talking better looking, slimmer girls in Manila or Cebu then that figure climbs to 6000-8000 p ($120-$160 us) so more expensive than most 1st world countries.[/QUOTE]Those figures might work if you're talking about high-end gogo bargirls in Manila (only). Outside of that, I get pretty girls for 1/4 of those prices (1/3 of that for LT) in Manila. This cebuana has been featured in the PG for many years, and is happy with a blue-note every morning (never wavered on price). Having pretty pinay for a buck is like shooting fish in a barrel.

I highly doubt this will have any effect on mongering in AC, fields or perimeter bars. I would bet these workers were paid very low wages, possibly lower wages than for Filipinos. Simply the only reason they would have illegal workers is to save on labor cost. These were not high tech workers or mid management.

Therefore I conclude they never had enough money to go mongering in Fields or perimeter. Probably never even ventured out of their work place or where they were housed.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1966761]Not sure where your logic is here, does it not cost large sums of money to holiday in the pi for american citizens?

Lets take a typical 10 day trip.

Air fare round trip, lets say the cheapest economy seat for arguments sake,$1000.

10 days in a reasonable Angeles hotel will set one back another $1000.

Lets say one is self employed or does not get paid for days away from work so lets say another $1000 dollars in lost sales or salary for the 10 days..[/QUOTE]GIGO. Garbage in. Garbage out.

First your assumption $ are wrong and way off the mark. Second you are trying to make an objective comparison out of a subjective event (s).

It is apparent you are a slam bam thank you ma'am monger. As the saying goes, "you know the price of everything but the value of nothing".

Tourist around the world is slow. Philippines has a few other added reasons like bar raids, airport bullet scam and ransom kidnapping along with the beheading. And I haven't mentioned terrorist fears yet.

I have yet to pay anywhere near the high prices you are quoting in Philippines and your low ball prices in western countries.

Everyone knows the quality in Philippines is unmatched to first world slam bam thank ma'am countries.

Thanks for your input Westie.

Not sure why you would say that what I experienced in Manchester UK was out of the norm, the local newspaper had 2 pages full of very similar ads, polish girls, Latvian girls, Bulgarian girls, Romanian girls. British girls and yes even some pinays, all girls early 20's and to be honest if the girl that I visited had she been working in the PI she would have a 6 month waiting list for her services at treble the cost I paid IMHO.

My British friends who I was visiting had put me on to the ads and have been using them themselves with very good results for some months now.

As far as cheaper girls of the pi then I would say this, yes cheaper girls are available but never forget girls will charge the maximum their looks / bodies / age allows them to, cheaper girls are cheaper for a reason, more expensive girls are more expensive for a reason, girls are in the business of looking after their pockets and feed their family's not giving away cheap pussy to grand daddy.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1966761]Not sure where your logic is here, does it not cost large sums of money to holiday in the pi for american citizens?

Lets take a typical 10 day trip.

Air fare round trip, lets say the cheapest economy seat for arguments sake,$1000.

10 days in a reasonable Angeles hotel will set one back another $1000.

Lets say one is self employed or does not get paid for days away from work so lets say another $1000 dollars in lost sales or salary for the 10 days.

Lets add travel insurance, getting to and from airports, few new summer clothes and some presents for the girls and we are up to almost $3,500 us that's before one has done any fucking in the pi.

Now I have never mongered in the us but I am sure for $3,500 one can have one hell of a good party with some hookers there without having to leave the comfort of his own home.

Just as a side note on a very recent trip to Manchester UK very nice looking, slim Polish girl 22 years old advertising her services in the local newspaper personals, services was 50 ($60) per hour, included BJ and full sex even made me a cup of tea with biscuits after LOL.[/QUOTE]You make some great points, I was in Angeles last year around April and I must say the cost vs the quality was definitely lacking, not to mention the lack of infrastructure and poor air quality. I was fortunate enough to get my airfare for around $700 and hotel expenses around $60 a night. I had a marginally decent time and of course the benefits of being in an English speaking country and around expats is always nice, I would say this is a trip I would make maybe every few years. Living in California it's not only more cost effective to just drive to Tijuana were for $60 you can have a model like gorgeous women and the few draw backs in comparison dollar to dollar are small. Sure I get a short time, very few speak English yet enough to get your point across. The weather and food is much better and certainly the infrastructure is miles ahead of Angeles and the women on par are much more attractive in the classic sense, taller, finer facial features, fuller breasts and backsides, although some of this cosmetically enhanced. The Phils is still a great place to retire and to find a beautiful women to have a relationship with, hands down one of the best, but it's mongering attributes are certainly beginning to lag from a cost ratio.