Robinsons Apartelle, EDSA/Pioneer, Mandaluyong
JUst got back from Manila and as promised am now giving you my report. Instead of the Heritage, I got booked into the Robinsons Apartelle - and Jeez - its pretty bad! The price was OK I guess - PP2,300/day and the room WAS huge with a fully equiped kitchenette - but it was really old and run down! It's right next to the Robinson Mall - so it was conveneint for meals etc - but besides that - ZIP!
Besides being all tied up in work, staying at this place really was NOT conducive to my enjoying the hobby. There was even a long list of HOUSE RULES that they give you when you check in - including a charge of PP250 for guests staying after midnight, PLUS a Daily "Good Morning, Room check" loud knock on the door at 8:30 am! NUTSO! I've never stayed anywhere in Asia where this happens - totally crazy.
OK, in the evening there is usually 3 or 4 girls sitting around the tiny lobby - just waiting - and the security guy were there practically to market these gals. OK, I did 'partake' once while there - but the whole process was just so clinical and sterile that I really never got in the mood at all. None of the partying, going round drinking and chatting and getting oneself into the mood - just order the gals, make your choice and away we go! Actually a pretty good looking girl with a really good body - plus a real spinner in bed. But I just could not get into the mood and it was a true "pure biological" experience. Yowitxch!! PP3,000 and had to pay the Mommy prior to the action - a pure waste of money.
SE Asia Joe
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First Time After Many Years.
I just returned from two and a half weeks in the Philippines. The Philippines had been my old stopping grounds starting 20 years ago but I hadn’t mongered in Manila for 15 years and I had never been to Samar ( the source of most of the girls in Angeles City) and Leyte only once so this is breaking somewhat new ground for me, which I enjoyed immensely. I will report on each area separately.
Manila
Airport Arrival and Transfers.
The international airport in Manila is surprisingly run well. Where one is obliged to spend too much in my opinion is in your transfer from the airport to your hotel. If you buy a taxi coupon as you exit the airport on your left, since November 2005 the price has been raised from 350 pesos to 530 pesos to Ermita the home of the infamous LA Café. Even though in foreigner money this is not much, I find it offensive because if I catch a metered taxi from Ermita to the airport it will only cost me around 130 pesos plus a tax of 30 pesos for the taxi exiting the airport.
The alternatives when arriving are either in the 530 or 600 peso range which is a coupon taxi or a pre-organised hotel vehicle transfer or taking a risk with your luggage and walking out onto the public road and flagging down a metered cab. I opted for the coupon method on the way to my hotel and the metered taxi from my hotel back to the airport. It seemed to be the smarted way to go.
I had not mongered in Manila since the Marcos and Aquino regimes so it was a re-discovery for me and man what a blast it turned out to be!
Hotels
There is a countless amount of options in the area of Ermita for accommodation from 500 pesos to 4000 pesos per night and more. 1 star to 5 stars are available within a few blocks of LA Café. Take a walk around in the morning in Mabini Street and Del Pilar Street and pop into any hotel that tickles your fancy and ask.
I stubbled by chance before arriving to Manila on an arrangement the Gpoint bar has with several hotels in the area. If you contact Myles from Gpoint via email, she will reserve a room for you in one of the hotels on her list and you will save 25% and more on the standard room rates. I opted to stay at the City State Tower Hotel in Mabini Street, which in my opinion is a 4 star hotel for the Philippines and a superior double room including 2 breakfasts went from 1,950 pesos per night down to 1,500 per night through Gpoint bar. Gpoints email address and phone number can be easily found on the internet.
Low price Mongering areas of Manila
Divisoria Mall, Baclaran Markets and Smoky Mountain Slums.
The locals get pussy for as low as 50 to 200 pesos a pop in the area around Divisoria Mall, Baclaran Markets and if you like to live life on the edge, Smoky Mountain Slum areas but I don’t suggest you go walking around that area alone LOL. If you are interested in taking a look as I was, hire a taxi per hour. This will cost you around 200 pesos per hour and lock your doors and have the driver take you around to these areas which have a lot of cheap street walkers at night. Most of these girls don’t speak much English and have never been with a foreigner. Still it can be fun for something different.
Cheap KTV’s
On the way to the domestic airport not far from Roxas Boulevard is a street with about 40 lower class KTV bars. They call it the “Air force 1” area. Be VERY careful of your belongings there and don’t go down any back streets to which there are many unless you are going in a group of Filipino friends. Stick to the main street and you can have some fun. None of the many girls sitting outside and inside will openly admit to having sex with you as this is not a take out situation with the girls here. You need to book a VIP room on the premises and the girls will then put out in the room. BJ’s and sex is normal. The prices range from 500 per hour to 1,200 pesos for 1.5 hours including drinks and girls. This area has the cheapest beer I have seen in Manila at 26 pesos a San Mig light bottle. I am more of a take out kind of guy so even though I had a bisexual female guide on this night and we did get into some fun with the girls in the VIP room, I would have preferred to have taken them to my hotel. The girls will openly give you their cell phone numbers and meet you after work so that is an option.
Medium Price Mongering in Manila
The Asia Entertainment Complex.
I was very pleasantly surprised at the positive reactions I got from the girls at the Asia Entertainment Complex. I had heard that these girls were very expensive but once you know the game, this is not the case.
The bar fine is only 1,000 pesos per girl, very reasonable and the tip which is paid directly to the girl, is negotiated in advance but not paid till the end. This is where the game is played. The standard asking for a short time is from 1 to 3 hours is 2,500 pesos and a over night tip asking is 4,000 pesos but this is what we in my country call a “Mugs price.” If you are to rich, or dumb or in a hurry, this is the price you will pay, for the rest of us, things are different. As always, having some game and making the girls laugh has a great reducing effect on the tip price which is fully negotiable (surprise, surprise LOL). I chatted to my girl for a while having fun and she told me she had not had a bar fine in over one week and she really needed money and she liked me (WOW I never heard that one before LOL). We chatted and joked and I bought her one ladies drink for 190 pesos. We finally agreed to 2,000 pesos tip for all night, not bad I though for a very classy place like this. She ended up staying half the next day at no extra charge and I ended up having to ask her to leave or she would have stayed all day because it was her day off. The girls here are generally very attractive and clean so you can expect to pay a bit more than say LA Café where they are all freelance.
Ermita Area
Well here is where things get interesting for me. It was my old stopping grounds almost 20 years ago and I had not been back since. Walking down Del Pilar Street, brought memories back and tears to my eyes. It used to be like Fields Avenue in Angeles City back then. Now it has about only about 10 bars total and only 4 or 5 reasonable ones. I understand Mayor Lim closed the bars down in the 1990’s for some strange reason. All those years ago I stayed at the Corona Hotel when it was just opened 2 weeks. It used to have a huge round marble Jacuzzi in your room and a round bed. Those were the days lol. The bar fine back then was 500 pesos. I guess it has not gone up that much in 20 years as it is now 1,000 pesos.
Well I have to confirm those reports that have come before mine on this forum that LA Café is Ermita and without it there may be no mongering in Ermita, well at least not at the current level.
A little bird told me that LA Café was recently closed for one month while they negotiated a bribe with the Mayors office. They finally settled on 4.5 million pesos my sources tell me.
As you enter LA, in the smaller room to your right, there are 3 Mamma sans working. They generally negotiate for some of the younger girls and get a commission from the girls. These Mamma sans are not on LA’s pay roll. This room on the right seems to be where the much sort after Japanese customers hang out in the afternoons and early evenings. There is a group of around 20 young and pretty girls that specialise in Japanese customers only! The Japanese pay a flat fee of 2,500 pesos short time, other foreigners are asked only 1,500 short time and 2,000 all night, now you can see why the Japanese are sort after by the girls, that and the fact that the girls tell me that Japs have small dicks and cum quickly which makes the girls job easy and fast.
I put the theory that these girls will only go with Japs to the test on several occasions and was surprised by the result. I approached some VERY hot teenagers who specialise in Japanese customers and offered them the same rate as the Japanese pay 2,500 short time. I was shocked when I was refused by every single on of these girls! They wouldn’t even make eye contact with me or talk to me because I was not Japanese. This was a challenge to me and I love challenges. It took me several days to break into this clicky group. I found that there is a Filipina food shop across the street where chicken and rice cost only 45 pesos and the girls seem to love it. I formulated a plan and picked 2 of the young girls that seem to wield some power and respect over the other girls. I asked them each night if they were hungry or thirsty. After the third night they caved in and accepted a drink and then we went over the road to eat the 45-peso meal lol. Well let me tell you, once this happened ALL of the 20 Japanese specialist girls were suddenly my best friends lol. Even the Mamma sans and the waitresses told me they had never seen these girls friendly and flirting with a non-Japanese man and we were all surprised. Suddenly the floodgates opened and I was the flavour of the month with these very hot young girls sitting all over me every night and groping me and allowing me to grope them and it became a competition for them who was going to sleep with me first. I must admit their pussies were particularly tight compared to some other girls I had in LA as they had not had much experience with non-Japanese men before. It was also notably painful sex for these girls with me even if I was gentle. By the way, I also negotiated the prices down to the usual 1,500 with them as they were now my friends and my money didn’t seem to matter too much at this stage to these girls. Every night when I arrived in LA I was hugged, kissed and greeted by this big group of hot girls. A few times people made jokes and said I must be their new Pappasan lol.
I found the secret to LA is patience. Sit in a position where you can see all the girls as they move around. I sat away from the main bar but close to the girls bathroom so that I got a look at every girl at some point as she went to freshen up. If you wait long enough you will have a choice of around 5 to 10 stunners that in my opinion are between an 8 and 10. Be patient and wait till the right one comes in then strike fast. I had a girl I was interested in come and flirt with me and cuddles etc and she was a 9.5 for sure and I hesitated and lost her to an other guy that night in about 5 minutes. In LA more than anywhere, the saying “He who hesitates is lost” is sooooo true.
Regular girls in LA.
As LA is 24/7 and never closes, I found that girls were cheapest in the early mornings between 6am and say 10am. At this time, the girls remaining had not had a bar fine and were getting desperate. Some are very attractive at this time of the day but most are not. I was offered 500 to 1,000 pesos short time regularly during these hours and the girls stayed as long as I wanted at no extra charge.
In the mid afternoon and through the night the prices seem be 1,500 short time and 2,000 all night but I found that not too many girls are willing to go all night early in the evening. Again, I got to know the girls as I do on all my mongering trips and then the price was really “up to me” lol. I found once I had bought them a 45 pesos chicken and rice meal, they would go with me almost out of obligation and money was not the deciding factor at that time.
I befriended as many of the “Queen bees” as I call the girls who wield power in a place as I could and I got looked after more than I could imagine. In fact one girl I bar find txt me the next day and asked if she and her bisexual friend could come over for an afternoon session and a meal and taxi money was all they wanted. Of corse I said yes and it was a real blast. They were right into it and each other with anal as well which surprised me!
Other bars in Ermita
There are several other bars in Del Pilar Street such as Amazonia’s which I didn’t like much as it charges more than LA’s for everything. It does have a small hotel upstairs if you wish to stay there. By chance, I stumbled on where the Amazonia girls live. I went around the corner in the side street to get a haircut and while I was the several of the girls from Amazonia came in and out and went upstairs. I asked the gay hairdresser what the story was and he said he had 10 room above his shop that he rented to the girls for 100 pesos per day. He also told me the names of the girls who were behind on the rent and indicated that if I agreed to pay their short fall, (only a few hundred pesos) he would convince them to sleep with me for free as they all owed him favours lol. I took him up on that offer on 2 occasions and he was true to his word.
Well I am sure I could write many more pages but most other info has already been written on this subject by those great mongers who have walked this path before me.
More about Samar and Leyte and Angeles City to come.
Enjoy.