[QUOTE=Amjeck]what do you mean by this?[/QUOTE]
I look at their blogs and if they are cute I just leave them a message.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]what do you mean by this?[/QUOTE]
I look at their blogs and if they are cute I just leave them a message.
Seoul I was at the New World today. What cafes were you talking about? I looked inside the New World and outside around New World and didnt see any cafes where ppl eat, drink, and read.
[QUOTE=Seoul5052]Jack,
I satyed at the New World hotel, and as far as I could tell there weren't that many other hotels around. There are a ton of people walking around this area (dunno what it's called) and some cafes where people actually sit down and read, unlike other areas in Asia. There was one I used to go to after work on a traffic circle near my hotel, and the girls would just walk up to me while I'd be sipping my coffee and ask where I'm from, what I do, why I'm in Vietnam, what I'm reading. Ask them what they're reading and they can't stop talking (while I'm dreaming about licking their pussies). The motorbike guys would see this and when I'd head back to the hotel to get ready for work in the morning, the motor guys would have their bitches lined up pleading for me to take one. Wasn't too comfy with this approach since I'm trying to avoid trouble and keep my job. There are also a couple of parks in the area where the lovelies be in large supply at their early evening walking time in deliciously short skirts. Same thing, they just walk up to you. I did notice, that I got a lot more attention when I wouldn't change from work clothes to t-shirt, shorts and sandles, so you might want to keep your business clothes on (not kidding). Nearby there is a gritty backpacker/bar area with some pretty rough and skanky hos working the streets in front of the bars. I reckon the free stuff in the cafes is much better. I need to arrange a vacation time to follow up on this womderful city.[/QUOTE]
Yup, everybody has pointed out that these VN gals will ask and ask and ask. I've known one gal for nearly 2 years already, a leggy beauty, 9 out of 10. In those 2 years, she's asked for: a dress, a motorbike, trip to Hanoi for her dying grandfather, clothing, trip to Nha Trang for her parents, security deposit for her new apartment, and the latest: $4,000 for a heart transplant for her mother. It's actually funny when they act just as predicted -- these VN gals just can't help themselves when they think they've found a rich Westerner.
[QUOTE=Jacky33]It will cost you alot more than a cellphone with these type of girls traveler. ..cause from my experience if you buy them one thing then they will keep on asking and expecting more.....so 1 cellphone might lead to a gold chain...than a watch...etc....[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Thanks for your 'tip', but don't equate my 'gifts' for money.
My father told me when I was a young 20 yr old hunting in Taiwan, nothing is free and the cheapest lay is the one you pay for.
Cheers :D[/QUOTE]On paper, that quote sounds nice and I've heard it so many times before. But in reality, the amount you pay is equal to the sum of the whole. If all you've got is tangible gifts, then you're not playing with a complete deck.
Won't get into it any further but. When you're good enough, then what you really pay the girls for is to leave.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]My father told me when I was a young 20 yr old hunting in Taiwan, nothing is free and the cheapest lay is the one you pay for. Cheers :D[/QUOTE]Hahaha true true ... wise man saying "The most expensive fuck is the free fuck".
What about emotional payment? Huh? I guess his father was right, in his own way. There is always reciprocation, one way or the other, and no, nothing in this world is for free.
Having lived in Asia for 8 years, in one capacity or another, I am quite convinced I am no expert on the Asian Mind, or Asian Women. I am now married to my second Asian Wife, and I can surely attest that nothing is free! Not even with a Wife. Ha ha I am reminded of a bus ride I once took, from Kunsan, in the south of Korea, to Seoul. A 4 1/2 hour bus ride turned into one of the all-time erotic events in my entire life! Its true.
Sitting on the bus, awaiting departure from Kunsan, I happened to spy a family. Mother, Father and little Sister, saying goodbye to the older Sister. Now, anyone who knows Asia know Korean women can be very darling and very beautiful. Thats the norm. An eye-popping and stunningly beautiful Korean woman is also not uncommon. However, the older Sister, who happened to be going back to University in Seoul, was even more than that! The little Sister was awesome, the Mother was eye-popping, but older Sister was Miss World! I'm not sure that still, till today, I have ever seen a more beautiful woman. Probably won't, either.
Anyway, after our departure, she sent a Korean man up to my seat to ask me to exchange seats with him, so that I could come back to the back-row seat and sit with her. It seems she wanted to talk. I went. Her name was Chi Young, and indeed, she was returning to Ewah Womens University in Seoul.
We talked, it got dark, she got cold, so I procured her a blanket. About half-way to Seoul, she whispered to me in the dark, and told me she wanted me to make love to her! My God! She kissed me, I kissed her back. Since it is impolite to keep a lady waiting where I come from, I obliged her. Twice. I fell head over heels in love with her, right then, and right there. She gave me her phone number, and a couple of days later, I called her. She said, sorry, she did not want to talk to me ever again! I asked her why she felt that way after what we had shared, and she explained that, in her school, it was all the rage, go out, fuck a Foreigner, and come back and tell all your circle of friends about it. I had been used.
It took me years, still dreaming of her and seeing her face sometimes, to get over that.
Yeah, nothing is free. Not a damn thing in this world is free. The only problem is, most of the time, us mongerers never count the emotional cost of what we do, neither to the women, or to us. That is a damn big mistake, my friends!
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this is a round up of the hello darling bars down in the hai ba trung / le thanh ton area. thought it might be of interest to some here. (this was posted awhile back, just updated it a bit)
hai ba trung
35 hai ba trung. small with just a few girls of average to slightly above quality. a balcony level with a pool table where you can get to know the girl better. **
49 hai ba trung. fairly large bar, long and narrow with a back room, which has a 2nd pool table and where things can be quite cozy. girls are usually more plentiful and in general a bit cuter than at 35. **
51 hai ba trung. a bit smaller than 49. better than average selection and quality (more so than 49). this one seems to get new girls more often than most, and the occassional gorgeous one. they also have 2 pool tables, one in back and another on balcony level. ***
91 hai ba trung. this bar is the biggest and has the most girls, and they tend to be prettiest in general, also younger, taller. it is the one bar where things tend to be least cozy, but if your preference is looks over service, this is the one to visit. ****
saigon ny -- small bar near the corner of dong du and hai ba trung, actually off hbt street. it's very friendly there, and girls are slightly below average in general. they're less pushy and usually more human than most of the bars though -- some girls wear ao dais. there is a pool table upstairs. **
dong khoi
29 dong khoi is on the last block before the majestic hotel. it has 2 levels and lots of girls, but in terms of looks they're usually nothing special. it is the one bar of all of them that offers the most in terms of customer service. there are couches upstairs and also a little private room in the back. **1/2
49 dong khoi is a depressing little bar way in the back and upstairs after walking down a long hallway. the girls are really not very pretty in this one. " "
mac thi buoi
thien loc, corner of hai ba truong and mac thi buoi. dark interior in this one and the girls tend to be more attentive to customer service. the darkness helps things along. ;) **1/2
cali is a small bar down mac thi buoi street from thien loc. just a few girls, usually below average in looks. *
thai van lung
smiley bar -- thai van lung street at intersection of cao ba quat (where vasco's used to be). big bar, selection is slightly below average. upstairs they have rooms with pool tables. things get much more entertaining upstairs. **
up thai van lung, after you cross le thanh ton, there are 2 more bars.
the first one is called just "3" now. small bar, selection usually below average. " "
on thai van lung near the corner of le thanh ton, at the top of the "hill" is a bar that is now called chot nho. selection and quality here is usually below average. pool table and sofas in back. *
le thanh ton
quan nho is a very small bar with just a few girls. upstairs japanese style seating areas. *
bin bin is next, just across the alley. this bar has second most and second prettiest after 91. quality of the girls here is quite good, sometimes excellent. it has an upstairs for further entertainment. ***
there is one more bar like this a few doors up le thanh ton, seems to be the sister bar of bin bin. i can't remember the name of it. it's medium size, average girls. **
i'd say the top tier of these bars (in terms of likelihood of finding a stunning girl) includes #35, #49, #51 and #91 on hbt, and also bin bin on ltt. middle tier would be the smiley bar, thien loc on hbt and maybe saigon ny. the rest are in the lower tier. they're usually disappointing with the very occassional surprise. 29 makes up for its shortcomings in other ways, but would probably have to go in the middle tier in terms of looks. lower tier on a bad night. the bars on thai van lung, i don't even bother with at this point. they're not even trying to get a good selection of girls in those places. one thing i'll say, the bars that don't get as many hot girls also are the wildest ones, and they do occasionally get hot girls. so you strike it lucky when that happens. one of the hottest girls at 91 used to work at cali for example, and those were nice times when she did. it's always worth taking a peek in to see what they have.
Was in HCM(Saigon) Vietnam for a week in September 2008. I stayed at the Saigon Mini and the Hong Thien Loc Hotel. Both are 2 star, but clean and more than adequate. Book through [url]https://hotels-in-vietnam.com/index.html[/url].
Generally speaking 2 star and below will allow guests, some overnight, some out by 9 or 10 pm. Your best bet is to check when checking in. The hotels are located in the Backpacking area around De Tham. Lots of decent restaurants around there as well. One bar/restaurant that seems to be the focal point around that area is Go2 at the corner of De Tham at 187. I note it because late at the night the working girls arrive there. Next door to Go 2 there is a small beer bar that seems to be a focal point for a group of foreigners from Nigeria; lots of comings and goings of folks who spend a lot of time scoping out the area and talking on cell phones. I am not completely sure what they are up to, but I would suggest a wide berth as such activity can get a traveler in Dutch with the local authorities.
Downtown, I checked out one bar with ladies of the evening or mid afternoon one block up from the Majestic Hotel at 29 Dong Khoi. The place has about 20 or so young ladies, so look real young, so I would check IDs before doing anything. My buddy pulled a girl out of Apocalypse Now, located about 3 to 4 blocks away and it cost him 30 for a short time. It was supposed to be all night but she complained of a stomach ache after one time and he paid her and sent her on her way. Other than that the tunnels of Chu Chi are worth the trip.
Anyone here know of an unexpensive way to fly to Thailand?
I don't want to spend too much time in HCMC as the noise is starting to get to me now.
VN fun but need some strange now
[QUOTE=Wendella]This is a round up of the Hello Darling bars down in the Hai Ba Trung / Le Thanh Ton area. Thought it might be of interest to some here. (this was posted awhile back, just updated it a bit) ... [/QUOTE]Hi. If you don't mind me asking, what is the currently damage like. It's been almost a year since I visited this kind of joint, and with the inflation, I wonder if the damage has increased. Below are what I paid the last time.
Bar fine = 4 x LD
Girl charge = USD 60
Hotel = USD 20
[QUOTE=Mouseymike]Hi. If you don't mind me asking, what is the currently damage like. It's been almost a year since I visited this kind of joint, and with the inflation, I wonder if the damage has increased. Below are what I paid the last time.
Bar fine = 4 x LD
Girl charge = USD 60
Hotel = USD 20[/QUOTE]
It's the same damage. 60 for ST normally.
[QUOTE=Jacky33]Sorry to hear you lost your phone Loso. Is it a common occurence of drive by thefts in Vietnam? Great reporting by the way. I enjoy your reports.[/QUOTE]I had my phone taken by a biker girl last month in HCMC. I am going back this week, and staying in District 1, probably New World.
Where is Catwalk? I was driving by New World last month, and I htought there was a connection, but I did not see where is Catwalk, unless it is above the fancy shops in the same block as New World?
[QUOTE=Saltydog]Anyone here know of an unexpensive way to fly to Thailand?
I don't want to spend too much time in HCMC as the noise is starting to get to me now.
VN fun but need some strange now[/QUOTE]
I guess it would have to be either with Air Asia or Jetstar. Round trips cost about USD$200 (All in). Was actually trying to book their USD$12 tickets but by the time i logged in, it was all sold out.
[QUOTE=Explorerman]I had my phone taken by a biker girl last month in HCMC. I am going back this week, and staying in District 1, probably New World.
Where is Catwalk? I was driving by New World last month, and I htought there was a connection, but I did not see where is Catwalk, unless it is above the fancy shops in the same block as New World?[/QUOTE]
Catwalk is opposite the Porte Cochere lobby entrance of the New World. There is also a health club there.
[QUOTE=Explorerman]I had my phone taken by a biker girl last month in HCMC. I am going back this week, and staying in District 1, probably New World.
Where is Catwalk? I was driving by New World last month, and I htought there was a connection, but I did not see where is Catwalk, unless it is above the fancy shops in the same block as New World?[/QUOTE]
Catwalk is in New World Hotel. The entrance is on Le Lai Street. If you are coming from Ben Thanh Market, just walk along the park, when you see the New World hotel directly across from the park, it will be the first entrance.