Seeking Arrangements

[QUOTE=Akibono;2587127]I think I have a find. She's a coed that is going to univ for a better degree. Claims she had a daddy before. Numbers seems to check out. Price a bit high. This is the problem. If she is a real student, then this is a fine and the price is well worth it. On the other hand, this could be an old hag that is selling herself as a student for much higher rates. Sort of like the story in the bible of marrying off the ugly older daughter first. Which scenario is more likely? Any way to sus it out discreetly? I trust nothing on the Internet.[/QUOTE]I met a lot of girls claiming to be undergraduate or graduate students on SA. I am a pretty smart person all around, and so I would ask them what they are studying, and based on their answer I would then ask them a few easy questions. If they are telling the truth about being a student, then answering the questions is both easy and fun for them. If they tell ignore you, then they were probably lying. Of course, a phony could look up answers on the internet, but liars on SA are too lazy to do that.

Can guys with experience using SA in the states give me a quick rundown on what I can expect if I use it in LA San Diego and Vegas. I have used it in Mexico and Colombia but that's a different world than the states. I started to use it in LA and was talking to this girl but the pandemic hit so I just canceled the account since sunset strip was closed.

I'm considering trying it again. I'm not looking to pay a girl.

Monthly fee. I just want to pay per meet. Do most of the American girls agree to this or are there really a lot of guys that buy the girls cars and jewelry pay for their college. I can't compete with that. What do you guys think.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2587544]Can guys with experience using SA in the states give me a quick rundown on what I can expect if I use it in LA San Diego and Vegas. I have used it in Mexico and Colombia but that's a different world than the states. I started to use it in LA and was talking to this girl but the pandemic hit so I just canceled the account since sunset strip was closed.

I'm considering trying it again. I'm not looking to pay a girl.

Monthly fee. I just want to pay per meet. Do most of the American girls agree to this or are there really a lot of guys that buy the girls cars and jewelry pay for their college. I can't compete with that. What do you guys think.[/QUOTE]Most all that monthly stuff and big ticket items is the exception not the rule. PPM is common but don't call it that if she's a newbie. Need to be sensitive to her not feeling like a hooker. See my newbie guide on this topic — tho it's buried quite some pages back now. Be prepared to pay minimum $400 and more likely $500 these days in either of those cities. Maybe more than 500 in LA. Someone on the ground may comment.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2587532]Hi Elvis:

First, I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts. Yep, a lot of what you say is true in general. However, for me, I am very, very happy in my marriage. My wife is beautiful, smart, funny, reasonable, and gives me a lot of freedom. I absolutely love her. It is just that I have fucked her over 1,000 times already. We still fuck, but we have more fun eating out, watching movies, going on trips, etc.

I simply like fucking as many women as possible. And if the women I am fucking likes fucking me too, then it's even cooler, as it is more passionate.

I might be totally wrong, but I think a lot of mongers are happily married and love their wives.[/QUOTE]Yeah we definitely in different situations. My wife and I are like brother / sister — I do love her — but like a sister. Someone you care for but are not romantically inclined with. She's a really nice person so not quite the drama Elvis was experiencing. But I did take steps a couple years back to not allow certain life control she had put on me. Nonetheless not a free and clear man. We will see once the kids are out of high school where this goes.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2587713]Most all that monthly stuff and big ticket items is the exception not the rule. PPM is common but don't call it that if she's a newbie. Need to be sensitive to her not feeling like a hooker. See my newbie guide on this topic tho it's buried quite some pages back now. Be prepared to pay minimum $400 and more likely $500 these days in either of those cities. Maybe more than 500 in LA. Someone on the ground may comment.[/QUOTE]500 is a lot. Not looking to spend that. More like 200.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2587544]Can guys with experience using SA in the states give me a quick rundown on what I can expect if I use it in LA San Diego and Vegas. I have used it in Mexico and Colombia but that's a different world than the states. I started to use it in LA and was talking to this girl but the pandemic hit so I just canceled the account since sunset strip was closed.

I'm considering trying it again. I'm not looking to pay a girl.

Monthly fee. I just want to pay per meet. Do most of the American girls agree to this or are there really a lot of guys that buy the girls cars and jewelry pay for their college. I can't compete with that. What do you guys think.[/QUOTE]I was a semi-regular user of SA in Vegas a few years ago. But given Covid lockdowns and now post-lockdowns, my info may no longer be valid. But here's my info for what it is worth.

SA is very good in Vegas. Lots of gals are up for PPM. I thought there would be a lot of pros on SA, given that there are a lot of pros in Vegas, but to my surprise, there were almost no pros on SA in Vegas. Maybe this is because pros do not need to use SA. Almost all of the gals that I met on SA in Vegas worked in casinos or hotels or cheesy entertainment industry, and they were card dealers, waitresses, cheesy street entertainers, etc. And they were pretty hard up for money.

One thing that I learned about tourist cities is that many people that live and work there are often poor (a lot of them seem to be white trash) and desperate to make money (another good example of this is Niagara Falls on the Canadian side).

Prices are also reasonable, especially if you like black girls. Many black girls will be happy with $200 PPM.

Incidentally, many AMPS in Vegas provide FS for a very reasonable price. Something to also consider.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2587955]I was a semi-regular user of SA in Vegas a few years ago. But given Covid lockdowns and now post-lockdowns, my info may no longer be valid. But here's my info for what it is worth.

SA is very good in Vegas. Lots of gals are up for PPM. I thought there would be a lot of pros on SA, given that there are a lot of pros in Vegas, but to my surprise, there were almost no pros on SA in Vegas. Maybe this is because pros do not need to use SA. Almost all of the gals that I met on SA in Vegas worked in casinos or hotels or cheesy entertainment industry, and they were card dealers, waitresses, cheesy street entertainers, etc. And they were pretty hard up for money.

One thing that I learned about tourist cities is that many people that live and work there are often poor (a lot of them seem to be white trash) and desperate to make money (another good example of this is Niagara Falls on the Canadian side)..[/QUOTE]I would agree. It is the tourists that are buying and the locals that are selling. I know for some it may be heaven. Something exciting about a woman out of control. But for me, I try to avoid these types. I learned over the years the problems them bring requires you to be on your toes constantly. The USA is either expensive or risky.

[QUOTE=Akibono;2587127]I think I have a find. She's a coed that is going to univ for a better degree. Claims she had a daddy before. Numbers seems to check out. Price a bit high. This is the problem. If she is a real student, then this is a fine and the price is well worth it. On the other hand, this could be an old hag that is selling herself as a student for much higher rates. Sort of like the story in the bible of marrying off the ugly older daughter first. Which scenario is more likely? Any way to sus it out discreetly? I trust nothing on the Internet.[/QUOTE]Tell you are buying and expensive piece of software and it is 50% off if you have an email address that ends in. Edu. Say you want to use her email to buy it. If she is in school, she will have an email with that ending and offer to help you out. If she cannot give you an email address that ends in. Edu, she is full of shit.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2587532]I might be totally wrong, but I think a lot of mongers are happily married and love their wives.[/QUOTE]I think a lot of mongers are unhappy and convincing themselves that they are happy. I have never met a happily married man who cheats, but I have met a lot who say they are. I am not trying to show you up MW. I could not be more happy to be wrong about your marriage and if you are happy, then God bless you.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2587544]Can guys with experience using SA in the states give me a quick rundown on what I can expect if I use it in LA San Diego and Vegas. I have used it in Mexico and Colombia but that's a different world than the states. I started to use it in LA and was talking to this girl but the pandemic hit so I just canceled the account since sunset strip was closed.

I'm considering trying it again. I'm not looking to pay a girl.

Monthly fee. I just want to pay per meet. Do most of the American girls agree to this or are there really a lot of guys that buy the girls cars and jewelry pay for their college. I can't compete with that. What do you guys think.[/QUOTE]The cars and jewelry stuff is mostly BS. The hard part is finding a good one. You are going to always have to give out a price and if you are fishing in Vegas but LA in particular you are looking at crazy money compared to Tijuana.

Someone went through prices on here a while back. My guess is a 8 or 9 in Tijuana that goes for $100 would go for $800 a session in LA and be much, much harder to find. There are going to be a ton more scam artists in the USA than Mexico or Colombia. In Colombia, I got three dates a day. In Mexico, I would get two a day. In the USA sex prison, one a month was the average.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2587955]I was a semi-regular user of SA in Vegas a few years ago. But given Covid lockdowns and now post-lockdowns, my info may no longer be valid. But here's my info for what it is worth.

SA is very good in Vegas. Lots of gals are up for PPM. I thought there would be a lot of pros on SA, given that there are a lot of pros in Vegas, but to my surprise, there were almost no pros on SA in Vegas. Maybe this is because pros do not need to use SA. Almost all of the gals that I met on SA in Vegas worked in casinos or hotels or cheesy entertainment industry, and they were card dealers, waitresses, cheesy street entertainers, etc. And they were pretty hard up for money.

One thing that I learned about tourist cities is that many people that live and work there are often poor (a lot of them seem to be white trash) and desperate to make money (another good example of this is Niagara Falls on the Canadian side).

Prices are also reasonable, especially if you like black girls. Many black girls will be happy with $200 PPM.

Incidentally, many AMPS in Vegas provide FS for a very reasonable price. Something to also consider.[/QUOTE]I'm not into Asian girls or black girls. Not looking for the room experience. I can do that anytime in Tijuana with pretty hot chicks in my hotel room. Looking to branch out and try SA in the triangle of Vegas San Diego and LA. If you don't mention ppm how do you tell them you want to meet for dinner at a nice restaurant and then bring up money and not make it look like prostitution. Don't these girls know what's up anyway. Why would they care. Some of the girls are really attractive on the site. I imagine they want a lot. Especially in LA.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2587955]I was a semi-regular user of SA in Vegas a few years ago. But given Covid lockdowns and now post-lockdowns, my info may no longer be valid. But here's my info for what it is worth.

SA is very good in Vegas. Lots of gals are up for PPM. I thought there would be a lot of pros on SA, given that there are a lot of pros in Vegas, but to my surprise, there were almost no pros on SA in Vegas. Maybe this is because pros do not need to use SA. Almost all of the gals that I met on SA in Vegas worked in casinos or hotels or cheesy entertainment industry, and they were card dealers, waitresses, cheesy street entertainers, etc. And they were pretty hard up for money.

One thing that I learned about tourist cities is that many people that live and work there are often poor (a lot of them seem to be white trash) and desperate to make money (another good example of this is Niagara Falls on the Canadian side).

Prices are also reasonable, especially if you like black girls. Many black girls will be happy with $200 PPM.

Incidentally, many AMPS in Vegas provide FS for a very reasonable price. Something to also consider.[/QUOTE]Also you say a lot of them aren't rich but I'm seeing a lot of girls posting. They have nursing degrees and engineering degrees. Why are they on the site if the have all this schooling. Especially nursing. They need nurses like crazy.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2587986]The cars and jewelry stuff is mostly BS. The hard part is finding a good one. You are going to always have to give out a price and if you are fishing in Vegas but LA in particular you are looking at crazy money compared to Tijuana.

Someone went through prices on here a while back. My guess is a 8 or 9 in Tijuana that goes for $100 would go for $800 a session in LA and be much, much harder to find. There are going to be a ton more scam artists in the USA than Mexico or Colombia. In Colombia, I got three dates a day. In Mexico, I would get two a day. In the USA sex prison, one a month was the average.[/QUOTE]To get three dates a day does your profile show your face or do you keep that covered.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2587993]Also you say a lot of them aren't rich but I'm seeing a lot of girls posting. They have nursing degrees and engineering degrees. Why are they on the site if the have all this schooling. Especially nursing. They need nurses like crazy.[/QUOTE]The simple answer is, they are lying. I see tons of "future doctors, lawyers, etc." So many "investors". Lot of girls wanting to start a business, and needing "mentors." A bunch of girls into crypto trading, the smarter ones into trading options.

What's going on? Well, they want to stroke the guy's ego. If money was not involved, most girls would not give the time of the day to a guy from SA, let alone "wanting to be mentored". They are writing stuff on the site in their profile sections which they think appeals to the guys because they think that is the profile of the guys coming after them.

I give them props for trying. But what they write in those sections is for entertainment only. The idea is always to get to meet them for a drink or dinner (no gifts or cash upfront; I will pay for the drink or dinner of course), assess (a) she is real and not a ghost (b) understand what she wants and is she even moderately reliable (c) discuss the exchange of allowance and services w / o using the word sex; go from there.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2587713]See my newbie guide on this topic tho it's buried quite some pages back now. Be prepared to pay minimum $400 and more likely $500 these days in either of those cities. Maybe more than 500 in LA. Someone on the ground may comment.[/QUOTE]Guide is Post #1542 currently on Page 31/32 titled "Seeking for Newbies". Hope that helps anyone searching for the write up save a bit of time -- and the digging was certainly worth it. Thanks again for the great write up.