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[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]Xmen, there's not much about Lan Kwai Fong in here, because LKF is not a place for mongering. It's a place for drinking a lot and acting like a fool, and unsuccessfully flirting with the snobby bitches who go clubbing there.[/QUOTE]
Unless you try Bar George, seem to be flippers there most nights
Hi All,
Sorry for posting off topic, but there is no "living in HK" thread.
I posted this in the Bangkok forum, but thought it may be better in the HK section.
Expats working in Asia, particularly Thailand, I believe, often keep their meney in a bank account with HSBC or such in HK or Singapore.
And it seems there are quite a few people do stock trading from Thailand.
Who would be a good firm to have a brokerage account with? specifically if I want to trade US options such as covered calls online from Thailand? I can use US Fidelity from Bangkok, but will have to remit money back into the US.
From their website, HSBC HK has an investment account, but it looks mainly for trading stocks only. In the US, I can open an account with Fidelity.
If I work in Thailand and get paid there and park my money in HK or Sing, I would like to buy US stock and try to sell some covered calls. (US stocks because I am familiar with Microsoft and Yahoo and such, but nothing to limit me to the US market, just I don't know anything about Europe or HK or China or Thailand...)
Thanks
fly
PS. I found interactivebrokers.com, will take a look to see what they offer. Would appreciate comments if anyone has experience with them.
Usually it is pretty easy to pick up and usually it is for free. Although sometimes I slip the girl $300-$500 or she requests a little bit of money.
edit - just want to add remember these girls make $3,500 a month from there job as a maid so even an extra $300 is equal to almost 10% of their monthly wages.
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]Guys, what's your success rate for freebies at these places on Sunday afternoons? Or is it mostly paying a typical $800/ST kind of thing?
Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Flyhere]Hi All,
Sorry for posting off topic, but there is no "living in HK" thread.
I posted this in the Bangkok forum, but thought it may be better in the HK section.
Expats working in Asia, particularly Thailand, I believe, often keep their meney in a bank account with HSBC or such in HK or Singapore.
And it seems there are quite a few people do stock trading from Thailand.
Who would be a good firm to have a brokerage account with? specifically if I want to trade US options such as covered calls online from Thailand? I can use US Fidelity from Bangkok, but will have to remit money back into the US.
From their website, HSBC HK has an investment account, but it looks mainly for trading stocks only. In the US, I can open an account with Fidelity.
If I work in Thailand and get paid there and park my money in HK or Sing, I would like to buy US stock and try to sell some covered calls. (US stocks because I am familiar with Microsoft and Yahoo and such, but nothing to limit me to the US market, just I don't know anything about Europe or HK or China or Thailand...)
Thanks
fly
PS. I found interactivebrokers.com, will take a look to see what they offer. Would appreciate comments if anyone has experience with them.[/QUOTE]
Just about all the major US - and International brokerage houses/investment banking firms are in Hong Kong - Goldman, Merril, Morgan Stanley, Fortiss, Deutsche Bank, UBS, Credit Suise, Lehman, Royal Bank of Canada, Schwabb etc etc.
Depending on the size of your account, they'd all open an account for you to trade either by phone or on the internet.
SEAJ
Hi all,
I am coming Hong Kong soon. I am staying at the panda hotel and metropark at Causeway Bay.
Could you give me some info on where to go and what is the going rate. and info that could help me when i go for action.
thank you
Regret those days are gone, all thats left are a few " clip " joints that will try sting you for HK$ 2000 for a few beers and then argue down to whatever they can get out of you. As they have no other clients they don't care how long it takes. You may have somewhere to go though!
Most of the bars will go topless if you spend enough, but then you end up with a titless freak like this!
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]Guys, what's your success rate for freebies at these places on Sunday afternoons? Or is it mostly paying a typical $800/ST kind of thing?
Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket[/QUOTE]I agree with Rick Hunter and his comments, but I would go to Laguna on Sunday afternoons rather than Fewicks or Makati.
[QUOTE=Naxnax]I would like know good topless bar in HK. I am not looking for the place to finally pick the gal. Just to go with a client to have drinks and watch the gals. Would like to know such a place with reasonable price for the drinks. I know the drinks will be costly in such a place compared to normal bar.[/QUOTE]There are a whole bunch of girlie bars on Lockhart Rd. in Wan Chai, but beware, as they are expert at running drink scams. Same with the few "topless" clubs in TST. Other than those bars, the entertainment options in HK are more Asian than Western. If you want to entertain a client with drinks and girls, I would recommend one of the KTV clubs in E. TST.
[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99]
My question is, is there a standard rate for LT and ST at Neptune II, and if so, what is it? Or does each girl set her own rate?
Something that I don't understand is that the girl in question was not approached by a single customer in the 2 hours I was in the bar. Further, most of the other 8s were also not approached by anyone during those 2 hours. Are guys reluctant to approach them because of being perceived as too expensive?[/QUOTE]Some girls are not very practical:) and dont go below a certain amount. Once, I have tried to negotiate with a Russian girl in Fenwick at 5:30am. After lowering her price to 1000 (which I found usual for Russians even after 4-5am), I tried to lower ST price to 900. We talked 10-15 minutes about ST prices around the world and economy, but she just refused to go for 900. I watched her to walk to her hotel (near Fenwick). By the way, it wasnt a matter of 100HKD, my goal was to lower her price below 1000HKD. I told her that she is being un-practical. She gave me some silly reason like if she lowers her price little bit everyday, then she will be asking 500 HKD soon like some others. Anyway, I think that some girls consider themselves higher than others and set lower threshold for themselves.
[QUOTE=Softy]There are a whole bunch of girlie bars on Lockhart Rd. in Wan Chai, but beware, as they are expert at running drink scams. Same with the few "topless" clubs in TST. Other than those bars, the entertainment options in HK are more Asian than Western. If you want to entertain a client with drinks and girls, I would recommend one of the KTV clubs in E. TST.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Could you please any particular KTV in East TST where two guys can go and speak no Cantonese or Putungua.
[QUOTE=Flyhere]Hi All,
Sorry for posting off topic, but there is no "living in HK" thread.
[snip]
PS. I found interactivebrokers.com, will take a look to see what they offer. Would appreciate comments if anyone has experience with them.[/QUOTE]I use interactive brokers out of HK and find it is pretty good. It isn't meant for the beginner but it doesn't sound like you are. More reasonable price than HSBC in my opinion.
MJ
I would like to hear if anyone has had a useful experience at any of the girlie bars in Wan Chai. Ever one to take up a challenge, one Friday afternoon I thought I would try and find out the cheapest I could get some. I ended up paying for a beer and 500 for a quick BJ at the back of the bar (don't recall which place, aren't the all the same? ) This was after much annoying negotiation and arm tugging. Some of the women are beautiful so maybe the exorbitant bar fine makes sense to some or maybe you have access to a better expense account than I do. I just think with all the other options this should be last on the list.
MJ
[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99]Went to the Fuji Building (381-383 Lockhart Road near Marsh Street) at about 10: 30PM, trying to get there before the place closed (a post seemed to indicate that the place shut down at 11PM. Is this true? ). Took the elevator to the top floor. All busy except for one. Rang the bell. A girl in a bikini opens the door and asks "Am I OK? 450 HKD). She was not bad but had a three-inch scar with the stitches still in it on the front of her thigh. I did not want to deal with that so I pretended I didn't understand her and left. Went down to the 19th floor. All busy except for 19-A1. Rang the bell. Pretty, friendly girl in blue-jean short-shorts, nice smile, opened the door. 500 HK$. No English. I motioned actions for fuck and suck. She smiled and nodded. Didn't want top haggle over HK$ 50 so I nodded OK. She gave me a shower, then she took a bath. Nice tits, not much of an ass, but OK.
She motioned me to lay down, did nippple suck for a few minutes, then started BJ (covered at my request. Looked like she was going to BBBJ until I motioned for the cap). Nice CBJ for 5 or so mintes, then CG, missionary, doggie, then finished with a HJ while massaging her pussy and sucking her tits. Shower, get dresssed, give her the money, a peck on the lips, and out the door. Nice session with a nice girl. As I got on the elevator an Asian guy rang her bell. Gave him a thumbs-up for the girl.
Got to Neptune II about 11:45PM. About 50 girls, mostly 6s, a handful of 7s, and 3-4 8s. A lot more older women than I had expected. As I had just finished at 19-A1, I was not really on the prowl so I just looked around. Got accosted by a few ladies, smiled at by others, but didn't follow-through with any of them. About 2 hours later, I'm getting sleepy and semi in the mood for another round. One of the 8s, a Thai girl with blond hair, had been smiling and flirting with me for a while so I call her over and tell her I like her and would she like to go to my hotel with me. She asked "How much you pay me? " I said how much do you want? She said ST 1, 000HK$. I told her that I thought that much was for LT and that ST was 500HK$. She said no. Since I was tired and not that horny, I let her go and left.
My question is, is there a standard rate for LT and ST at Neptune II, and if so, what is it? Or does each girl set her own rate?
Something that I don't understand is that the girl in question was not approached by a single customer in the 2 hours I was in the bar. Further, most of the other 8s were also not approached by anyone during those 2 hours. Are guys reluctant to approach them because of being perceived as too expensive? [/QUOTE]Prices is a difficult topic. Having lived in HK a while here is my take on it.
Most girls want to get HK$1, 500 for all night (long time, usually in your hotel). Some will ask for up to HK$2, 500 but few will refuse HK$1, 500. As it gets later, if they like you, if it is slow, if they are less than prime, they will accept $1, 000.
Some girls look for short time, usually in a short time hotel on Lockhart Road (note their rates also change depending on time of day ranging from about HK$100-300 for 1-3 hours). Most girls really want HK$1, 000. If you offer this and stick to it you will probably get it, and they will be happy after (ask for your phone number, look for you next time, etc.) If it is really slow, she is not prime, it is morning or they think you are local, they might accept HK$500, but they are not likely to be happy (won’t give you phone, or won’t answer when you call).
You can see beautiful, especially Thai, girls who seem to be there all night alone, and paying for their own drinks (note that the bar charges the girls much less for drinks when they buy their own than they do guys even for their own drinks. If a girl buys her own drink it costs I think HK$20/beer). If you go several nights in a row you might notice the same girl drinking the same drink, chatting with her friends, and never with a guy. For some girls it just works, for some it does not. Some also seem to have their pride and would rather go broke than negotiate.
I struck up a conversation with one of these Thai girls. Tall, beautiful face, hair, breasts. Yummy. She said she did not know why guys did not seem to like her. Eventually I left. The next day I saw her and her friends in Bridge. We chatted for a while and at the 10am closing she asked if I wanted to go with her friends to play pool, which I agreed. We went to Joe’s and spend the morning playing. Everyone paid his own way and it was a blast. At the end I walked them to their boarding house, but made no move. I saw her again a few nights later, still alone in Neptune. I asked her to join me at Dusk till Dawn, and we had a great time. After I told her that I really wanted to make love, but that I did not like turning our relationship commercial. She said it was not important. I could have either played dumb and tried not paying her, gone short time and offered her something after or warned her upfront what I would pay. We all know these girls are there for work, so not paying something is pretty dishonest. I told her I would give her $1, 000, as an exception. She said it was totally up to me. So off we went. We spent the night, at the end I gave her $1, 000 and I think that was the first really money she had made. I have to say she was really, really great in bed. In the next weeks I showed her other bars (Laguna in the afternoon, Fenwick – which I hate, LKF and more). We would occasionally meet and if we fucked I would slip her $1, 000. Then the games began. I would leave her to work in Neptune so she can make some money, then she would get hurt that I was not attentive to her. So I guess I became her easiest and most reliable money. Next she had to leave HK because they would not extend her visa, and she could not afford to pay her boarding house. I gave her an extra $1, 000. Then, surprise, she got her visa extended. Then she had to go and did not have money for the flight. Then she really, really needed a bit more as she had not made any money in HK and would have to pay her rent back in BKK. Then when she got home her dad was sick, and she needed more. So in the end, and I have now stopped communicating with her, the price was $1, 000 but soon I felt that I had adopted her and was slipping additional amounts and increasing my average cost. Hell, I did not want a girl friend.
What is the moral of the story? Dammed if I know. I have seen some girls so good at pulling drinks that they can do 20 in a night (of those ridiculous tequila rock and rolls at Fenwick – never mind sweetie, here is my ATM card), and that is all they do. No fucking. I have seen beautiful girls go night after night and get nowhere (as far as I can see) and go home broke. (And I have seen some of those come back to HK a few months later.) Because I live here I am not in a hurry or in need of scoring on any given night, so if there is someone l want I usually offer HK$500, and take it and keep coming back. There are even some who don’t ask for money and really mean it. Note that Filipinas come with 14 day visas and then try to extend by going to Shenzhen or Macao, hoping to get another 14 days when they return. It is more difficult lately with China refusing border visas and the HK authorities giving regular 14 day entries less often. The Thai girls get a month, and then do the same. (Most Indonesian girls seem to be domestic helpers out for some extra cash or looking for boy friend, mostly Laguna or Makati Saturday and Sunday) This cycle drives the new faces and also the economics as when they get close to visa expiry they are more flexible.
Bottom Line:
$1, 000-$1, 500 over night
$500-$1, 000 short time
Be careful about paying so little that she is mad, she will not be a great fuck. (and if you are not sure, if she does not give you her phone after, she thinks you are cheap Charlie and is mad, but she needed something)
If you are local or she thinks you will be regular, you can pay less and she will still be happy.
Don’t get tricked into becoming her boyfriend, unless of course that is what you want. It will increase your average cost.
Forget Russians, Colombians, Africans. They are exotics here and know it. Filipinas for true love, Thais for awesome sex and Indonesians for, well, both. But I digress.
PS this applies to Neptune, Makati, Laguna, Fenwick, Amazonia. Dreams and Galaxy seem to be a bit less. Joe Bananas, Dusk till dawn are more unpredictable.
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Prices is a difficult topic. Having lived in HK a while here is my take on it.
Most girls want to get HK$1, 500 for all night (long time, usually in your hotel). Some will ask for up to HK$2, 500 but few will refuse HK$1, 500. As it gets later, if they like you, if it is slow, if they are less than prime, they will accept $1, 000.
Some girls look for short time, usually in a short time hotel on Lockhart Road (note their rates also change depending on time of day ranging from about HK$100-300 for 2-3 hours). Most girls really want HK$1, 000. If you offer this and stick to it you will probably get it, and they will be happy after (ask for your phone number, look for you next time, etc.) If it is really slow, she is not prime, it is morning or they think you are local, they might accept HK$500, but they are not likely to be happy (won’t give you phone, or won’t answer when you call).
You can see beautiful, especially Thai, girls who seem to be there all night alone, and paying for their own drinks (note that the bar charges the girls much less for drinks when they buy their own than they do guys even for their own drinks. If a girl buys her own drink it costs I think HK$20/beer). If you go several nights in a row you might notice the same girl drinking the same drink, chatting with her friends, and never with a guy. For some girls it just works, for some it does not. Some also seem to have their pride and would rather go broke than negotiate.
I struck up a conversation with one of these Thai girls. Tall, beautiful face, hair, breasts. Yummy. She said she did not know why guys did not seem to like her. Eventually I left. The next day I saw her and her friends in Bridge. We chatted for a while and at the 10am closing she asked if I wanted to go with her friends to play pool, which I agreed. We went to Joe’s and spend the morning playing. Everyone paid his own way and it was a blast. At the end I walked them to their boarding house, but made no move. I saw her again a few nights later, still alone in Neptune. I asked her to join me at Dusk till Dawn, and we had a great time. After I told her that I really wanted to make love, but that I did not like turning our relationship commercial. She said it was not important. I could have either played dumb and tried not paying her, gone short time and offered her something after or warned her upfront what I would pay. We all know these girls are there for work, so not paying something is pretty dishonest. I told her I would give her $1, 000, as an exception. She said it was totally up to me. So off we went. We spent the night, at the end I gave her $1, 000 and I think that was the first really money she had made. I have to say she was really, really great in bed. In the next weeks I showed her other bars (Laguna in the afternoon, Fenwick – which I hate, LKF and more). We would occasionally meet and if we fucked I would slip her $1, 000. Then the games began. I would leave her to work in Neptune so she can make some money, then she would get hurt that I was not attentive to her. So I guess I became her easiest and most reliable money. Next she had to leave HK because they would not extend her visa, and she could not afford to pay her boarding house. I gave her an extra $1, 000. Then, surprise, she got her visa extended. Then she had to go and did not have money for the flight. Then she really, really needed a bit more as she had not made any money in HK and would have to pay her rent back in BKK. Then when she got home her dad was sick, and she needed more. So in the end, and I have now stopped communicating with her, the price was $1, 000 but soon I felt that I had adopted her and was slipping additional amounts and increasing my average cost. Hell, I did not want a girl friend.
What is the moral of the story? Dammed if I know. I have seen some girls so good that they can sell 20 drinks in a night (of those ridiculous tequila rock and rolls at Fenwick – never mind sweetie, here is my ATM card), and that is all they do; no fucking. I have seen beautiful girls go night after night and get nowhere (as far as I can see) and go home broke. (And seen some of those come back to HK a few months later.) Because I live here I am not in a hurry or in need of scoring on any given night, so if there is someone l want I usually offer HK$500, and take it or leave it. There are even some who don’t ask for money and really mean it.
Note that Filipinas come with 14 day visas and then try to extend by going to Shenzhen or Macao, hoping to get another 14 days when they return. It is more difficult lately with China refusing border visas and the HK authorities giving regular 14 day entries less often. The Thai girls get a month, and then do the same. (Most Indonesian girls seem to be domestic helpers out for some extra cash or looking for boy friend, mostly Laguna or Makati Saturday and Sunday) This cycle drives the new faces and also the economics as when they get close to visa expiry they are more flexible.
Bottom Line: $1, 000-$1, 500 over night $500-$1, 000 short time
Be careful about paying so little that she is mad, she will not be a great fuck. (and if you are not sure, if she does not give you her phone after, she thinks you are cheap Charlie and is mad, but she needed something) If you are local or she thinks you will be regular, you can pay less and she will still be happy.
Don’t get tricked into becoming her boyfriend, unless of course that is what you want. It will increase your average cost.
Forget Russians, Colombians, Africans. They are exotics here and know it. Filipinas for true love, Thais for awesome sex and Indonesians for, well, both. On the other hand, if you all offerd $500 the girls would start accepting it more often, and save me a fortune. But I digress.
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