Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=MoneySign;3023413]1) You cannot be serious with that number. I assume that's just a hyperbole. You mean 500+ only on that weekend, NOT earlier in that week or right after? Is it just this time ONLY because a NFL game actually plays in SP this year, OR is it just an opening week of the NFL season that happens every year? I guess I'm trying to see the correlation there. I'm kind of surprised that Brazilians even care about NFL since Brazil is a football (soccer) nation.
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3) When you're mongering in SP by yourself, I'm curious where you guys normally go to eat. I know you can eat in the clubs, but you may not go there every single night. I guess I would probably go to any quick place that I can serve myself like a buffet restaurant or something. I would feel awkward to go to a fancy or high end restaurant sitting alone being served by a waiter. Where would you recommend go to eat? Any favorite spot / restaurant for solo traveler?[/QUOTE]1) Yes, very odd, why would Brazilians care about American football? Could it be the US teams like to bring their players and supporters to SP because of the sex to be had in SP? Sex is a taboo, and prostitution is a serious crime in the Land of Freedom & Liberty, so they won't tell you. It's the 2nd year in a row the NFL takes place in SP.

2) As a monger in SP I loved to eat in shopping mall food courts whenever I was alone. That's also where I liked to watch sexy local girls coming and going. I ate twice at Scandallo and found the food inferior to what I was getting at a good food court. Plus, I didn't much like the interaction with the Scandallo waiters, always had the impression they were fishing for tips. Even the chocolate cakes were average. To me, eating at Scandallo was wasting an opportunity to eat at a steakhouse (like Fogo de Chao) or at a nice food court. I never tasted the feijoada buffet though.

[QUOTE=MoneySign;3023413]1) I'm curious where you guys normally go to eat. I know you can eat in the clubs, but you may not go there every single night. I guess I would probably go to any quick place that I can serve myself like a buffet restaurant or something. I would feel awkward to go to a fancy or high end restaurant sitting alone being served by a waiter. Where would you recommend go to eat? [/QUOTE]The bakery / cafe usually have breakfast and lunch so that is where you can go. It would be easier for others to provide specific suggestion if you narrow down to an area.

I walk a lot, including centro at night. It's not too bad, you are always taking a risk walking anywhere.

[QUOTE=MoneySign;3023413]1) You cannot be serious with that number. I assume that's just a hyperbole. You mean 500+ only on that weekend, NOT earlier in that week or right after? Is it just this time ONLY because a NFL game actually plays in SP this year, OR is it just an opening week of the NFL season that happens every year? I guess I'm trying to see the correlation there. I'm kind of surprised that Brazilians even care about NFL since Brazil is a football (soccer) nation.

2) Let's say you stay at a place within 3 km from Scandallo. You can easily walk 35 to 45 minutes to get there in late afternoon. I know. Uber is cheap and convenient, but that's not my point. Say you have some times to kill on a cool day and feel like to do some exercises by walking to the club. Here are the big questions. Are the surrounding neighborhoods of Scandallo (and probably Bomboa) safe to walk around? Has anyone actually walked alone (for 30+ minutes) to any of these clubs? Did you feel safe? No problem at all? Nothing to worry about?

3) When you're mongering in SP by yourself, I'm curious where you guys normally go to eat. I know you can eat in the clubs, but you may not go there every single night. I guess I would probably go to any quick place that I can serve myself like a buffet restaurant or something. I would feel awkward to go to a fancy or high end restaurant sitting alone being served by a waiter. Where would you recommend go to eat? Any favorite spot / restaurant for solo traveler?[/QUOTE]1) I am probably being conservative on that number. For NFL weekend, it is going to be packed. Crazy packed. Probably the only time it would be crazier would be F1 week when Scandello opened on a Sunday to accommodate the visitors.

2) Why would you risk your belongings and safety for a cheap uber ride that might cost you less than $5? Probably better for you to get your walking done in a mall and then grab some lunch. I walk around my hotel during the day but it is in a pretty safe area. I usually take Ubers at night since I don't want to get all sweaty and worked up before heading to dinner or to a club.

3) I eat wherever the food looks good. Fuck what people think if I am by myself. I prefer to eat alone most of the time since I like to people watch. Sometime I will eat lunch with the girl from the night before and sometimes I might schedule a date for a nice dinner.

Good luck!!

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3022960]I've been to Scandallo, and used to concur with JimmyBoy -- go for the food using the entrance fee towards that with some friends after hitting the prives. But that was at an entrance of 300. These prices are ridiculous. You could easily get 2 or 3 prive / clinica sessions which is the sweet spot in Rio and SP.[/QUOTE]Come on Bengali! I love you-and-all but I'm telling you dude: none of the chicks that we saw in Paris cafe would make roster in Scandalo, and yes, that includes that cute black chick you grabbed in the garage on her way to work before I had a chance to even open my mouth with a fleeting thought 'shit!' indeed passing through my head.

Quality of women, let alone how they present themselves and how they approach us are incomparable between the two. I also don't see how there can be much overlap between clinicas and Scandalo. In clinicas they work more for less and in Scandalo they work less for more. + Scandalo fines them 400 brl if they don't give it 5 days a week. It's just economics. + Scandalo is fun for them too. Clinica is just a place of work.

P.S. Alright, considering few black chicks that I saw in Scandalo that black chick from Paris cafe might be able to make team. LOL It truly is a big if though.

[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;3023294]Any of the girls in Scandallo speaks English? I speak Spanish, but 0 porto although they are basically the same.

[/QUOTE]They are definitely not "basically the same. "

Many girls will speak a little bit of English. Combine that with Google Translate and you can get by.

I speak Spanish also. My experience is that if I speak Spanish, they understand me. But when they say more than a simple sentence in Portugues, I'm frequently lost. And I've been to Brasil dozens of times.

[QUOTE=Combo;3023501]They are definitely not "basically the same. "

Many girls will speak a little bit of English. Combine that with Google Translate and you can get by.

I speak Spanish also. My experience is that if I speak Spanish, they understand me. But when they say more than a simple sentence in Portugues, I'm frequently lost. And I've been to Brasil dozens of times.[/QUOTE]That's it. Spanish and Portuguese is a one way street: they'd know what you're be saying but you'd be lost most of the time in terms of trying to understand them. I speak decent Spanish but I speak pretty damn good Portuguese, something which sometimes could cause a problem with being understood in a Spanish-speaking country. At least until I get into the groove which usually takes a few days.

That being said you still shouldn't have that much problems in Scandalo. All ladies speak little English & understand Spanish + Google translate. You'd be alright. Also, usually there is at least one Colombiana on deck in Scandalo. Find her and you're golden.

Do you suggest I get there early? I was planning on going the Saturday night, after the game.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3023450]1) I am probably being conservative on that number. For NFL weekend, it is going to be packed. Crazy packed. Probably the only time it would be crazier would be F1 week when Scandello opened on a Sunday to accommodate the visitors.

Good luck!![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3023450]1) I am probably being conservative on that number. For NFL weekend, it is going to be packed. Crazy packed. Probably the only time it would be crazier would be F1 week when Scandello opened on a Sunday to accommodate the visitors. [/QUOTE]I was in SP couple of years back during F1 week and I heard Scandalo was packed. Heard, because on the advice of my favorite Scandallo girl, I avoided the club completely during the entire week except on Sunday the post event special opening night. She told me on Thursday night there was a long line to enter the club and an incredible 2 hour wait for a room. No thank you. Instead, I arranged for my 2 favorite boate girls to come over to my hotel (at no extra charge) and I visited Bomboa twice that week as well. Bomboa was crowded, but not "crazy packed" and the girls were asking their regular prices.

On Sunday night I went to Scan for their special after event night just to check it out. It was a dud. I never seen the place so empty and most of the girls that were there were not of usual Scan quality. Luckily, I ran into a lone familiar face that night and we had a fun session. By Monday / Tuesday night everything had returned to normal and most if not all the F1 fans had gone home.

[QUOTE=GreatEraIm;3023519]Do you suggest I get there early? I was planning on going the Saturday night, after the game.[/QUOTE]I don't know what time the game ends but it will definitely get more packed as the night goes on. I was there last year and we watched the game at Scandello. It was pretty slow before and during the game, but after the game it got super packed. Wall to wall people and thankfully we had our table reserved so we didn't have to deal with standing next to everyone.

Do write a report about your experience.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3023651]I don't know what time the game ends but it will definitely get more packed as the night goes on. I was there last year and we watched the game at Scandello. It was pretty slow before and during the game, but after the game it got super packed. Wall to wall people and thankfully we had our table reserved so we didn't have to deal with standing next to everyone.

Do write a report about your experience.[/QUOTE]It was fvcking packed deep with new garotas from all of brasil. I had a table & couch near the DJ booth to see the entire room from above. I think they did a whole NFL week not just the single night. Easy to check on their insta page. During NFL week and F1 there is sometimes a wait for rooms. They will open the 2nd floor bar across from the cashiers for drinks and additional seating.

Reminded me of the wait at Casarao on busy night. Last year bros packed the place but garotas were there in force. Instagram models, rio models, hoping to score big with their english. To find a "baller" . I watched the game on scandallos big screen. After the game I bailed with my dates to a less crowded less expensive place lush motel kkkk.

The garotas from day shift working nights were asking and getting 2 mil brl & 2. 5 mil brl a session. Sheetzz that's all the garota scandallo gossip network is talking about. Their pretty sexy eyes, lighting up at the prospect of 3 mil and 3. 5 mill baller session for an hour.

[QUOTE=MikeKelimir;2990810]I went back 20 pages reading all the posts and tried to make a consolidated reference doc. I will be in SP for about 7 days and have zero experience there (though I have 15 ish in FKK, CR, DR, MDE, and other latic countries). No clue why I have never been to Brazil yet, but I'm going to set up a week long trip.

To be clear, thanks to everyone else do did all the hard work here, I just worked to consolidate it for trip. At any rate, can anyone gut check this and tell me if my numbers / lists look right?

A few points I was unclear on was the pricing in the clinicas and whether my numbers are "all-in" or if there are 2 separate fees in some cases (like the clinica, you pay the girl and then the location, which means the all in is higher).

Also, I do understand there seems to be a trade-off between spots close to the clinicas (having noise and lower prices) vs more expensive hotels that are quieter. I am a light sleeper, but I also am not a fan of spending 45 minutes in a taxi to visit a massage place.

My ideal trip is maybe 1 massage place per day and then 3-5 nights to experience each of the night clubs in the list:

[B]So Paulo[/B]

# 1. Accommodation.

# Hotels.

- [B]Bourbon So Paulo Ibirapuera Convention Hotel / Wyndham So Paulo Ibirapuera Convention Plaza Hotel[/B]:

- Location: Moema district, near Ibirapuera Shopping Mall and Congonhas Airport (CGH).

- Rooms: 600-672 soundproof rooms with free WiFi, air conditioning, cable TV, electronic safe, and mini-bar.

- Amenities: Indoor swimming pool, fitness center, steam room, sauna, business center, 16 event venues.

- Dining: Multiple options including Fenix Bar, Ipe lobby bar, and Igueira restaurant.

- Price Range: From are $265 (USD $48) per night.

- Additional Features: 24-hour front desk, room service, parking (self and valet), express check-in / out.

- [B]DoubleTree by Hilton So Paulo Itaim[/B]:

- Location: Itaim Bibi, known for its vibrant dining scene.

- Rooms: Spacious and modern, some may feel cramped.

- Features: Excellent breakfast service, quiet environment.

- Internet: Requires frequent re-registration.

- Price Range: are $425-are $640 (USD $77-USD $116) per night.

- [B]Mercure So Paulo Alamedas[/B]:

- Location: Near Avenida Paulista.

- Issues: Construction noise reported, weak WiFi signal.

- Price Range: are $500-are $750 (USD $91-USD $136) per night.

- [B]Grand Mercure So Paulo Itaim[/B]:

- Location: Itaim Bibi.

- Issues: Severe construction noise reported, weak WiFi signal.

- Price Range: are $500-are $750 (USD $91-USD $136) per night.

# Condo Hotel.

- [B]Allure Moema[/B]:

- Address: Av. Dos Imars, 508, Moema.

- Features: Modern studio apartments, double-paned glass, modern appliances.

- Price: are $300 (USD $55) per night.

- Proximity: 4-minute walk to clinics like Prime, Miruna, and Abbobhrs; 7-minute Uber to Congonhas Airport (CGH).

- Amenities: Beach tennis court, party hall, swimming pool, gym, 24-hour bilingual reception.

# Airbnb.

- Price Range: are $150-are $225 (USD $27-USD $41) per night for studios.

- Tip: Email hosts to confirm soundproofing features.

# 2. Entertainment & Activities.

# Nightlife & Bars (Boates).

- [B]Scandallo Lounge[/B]:

- Address:

- Link to location: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/A659oQmcR3u3K6G57[/URL].

- Hours: Open daily from noon to early morning (Monday 12 pm-4 am, Tuesday-Friday 12 pm-5 am, Saturday 12 pm-4 am).

- Entry Fee: are $200 (USD $36) for men (includes are $100 for drinks), are $50 (USD $9) for women.

- Session Fee: are $900-1000 (USD $164-USD $182) for 1 hour.

- Best Days: Tuesday to Thursday.

- Tips: Arrive before 7 PM to avoid cover charge, dress to impress.

- [B]Casaro Augusta[/B]:

- Address:

- Link to location: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/eZ2fKzXcH3Q6Wog17[/URL].

- Hours: Opens and closes late, good every day except Sunday and Monday.

- Entry Fee: are $10 (USD $1. 80), includes two drinks.

- Drink Prices: are $15 (USD $2. 70) for you, are $30-are $50 (USD $5. 45-USD $9. 10) for companions.

- Pricing: are $425 (USD $77) for 1 hour, are $300-are $400 (USD $55-USD $73) for 30 minutes, often negotiable to are $300 (USD $55).

- [B]57 House Friends Club[/B]:

- Address:

- Link to location: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/2H27zcsvHGnJW9KCA[/URL].

- Hours: Open from 12 PM to late evening.

- Entry: No entrance fee reported during an early Friday visit.

- Talent: Around 9 girls present at 6 PM, mostly 22-29 years old, some up to 35.

- Pricing: are $250-330 (USD $45-USD $60) for 1 hour, are $240 (USD $44) for half an hour before 8 PM (rooms included).

# 3. Massage Locations (Clinicas).

# High-End Options.

- [B]Sharon Premium[/B]:

- Easy website booking via WhatsApp.

- Opens early (around 10 AM or 11 AM).

- [B]Baronesas[/B]:

- Website available, WhatsApp booking.

- Early opening hours (around 10 AM or 11 AM).

- [B]Taj Mahal[/B]:

- Website browsing and WhatsApp booking available.

- [B]Lotus Lounge[/B]:

- Online presence with easy booking process.

- [B]The Palms[/B]:

- Limited online information.

- Visit in person when they open (around 12 PM).

- Pricing: are $700-are $800 (USD $127-USD $145) for session, additional are $400 (USD $73) to the girl.

- [B]Oro[/B]:

- Minimal online presence.

- Visit at opening time (around 12 PM).

# Mid-Tier Options.

- [B]Anavrin[/B]:

- Price similar to Prime.

- Excellent website with easy advance booking.

- Opens at 9 AM on Saturdays.

- Classic wood floor apartment vibe.

- [B]Prime Massagem[/B]:

- Link to location: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/itbPvuvg259GT4rg9[/URL].

- [B]Miruna[/B]:

- Link to location: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/4sxBrVP621ShFyf68[/URL] (Not Maruna).

- [B]Abbbora[/B]:

- Link to location: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/n55rLKJLTS7ZCm7cA[/URL].

- [B]Tangara[/B].

# 4. Transportation.

- Metro: are $4. 40 (USD $0. 80) per ride, not 24/7.

- Uber: Recommended for nightlife venues.

# 5. Safety & Tips.

- Be cautious of pickpockets in public transport and areas like Rua Augusta.

- Use ATMs inside banks to avoid skimming fraud.

- WhatsApp is commonly used for bookings at massage spots and private clubs.

- Tipping (optional):

- Bartenders / Waiters: are $5 (USD $0. 90) to are $20 (USD $3. 65).

- Hotel Staff: are $10 (USD $1. 80) to are $20 (USD $3. 65).[/QUOTE]Thought I would repost this useful information.

Here is a list of SP massage clinics ranked by frequency of recommendations (in parentheses). There are noticeable absences (Lotus lounge, Palms, Sharon Premium, Oro, Taj Mahal). All have telephone numbers, most have websites and Whatsapp numbers. Some publish girl photos on their website, most have Whatsapp photo updates. Whatsapp is essential for easy clinic contact.

1. Clinica Brooklin. Av. Professor Vicente Ra, 1656 (33351).

2. Clinica Enjoy Spa. Are. Condessa do Pinhal, 279, Campo Belo (18737).

3. Clinica Kin Center. Tv. Libera Rivelino, 210, Brooklin Novo (16480).

4. Clinica Indy Massagens. Av. Indianpolis, 2201 - Planalto Paulista (12989).

5. Clinica do Patro. Rua Miranda Guerra, 1052 - Brooklin Novo (12601).

6. Clinica Pyramide. Are. Chamant, 372 Moca (9592).

7. Clinica Maytreia. Rua Bacenas, 125 Moca (9138).

8. Clinica 268- Av Bosque the Sade, 268 - Praa the Arvore (8336).

9. Clinica Kahunas. Are. Bartolomeu de Gusmo, 147, Vila Mariana (7562).

10. Clinica Nova Ceci. Av. Ceci, 2189, Planalto Paulista (7331).

11. Clinica Tangar. Rua Tangar, 200 - Vila Mariana (7262).

12.57 House Friend's Club-Alameda dos Aicas, 1293 Moema (7026).

13. Clinica SPA Moah. Av. Moaci ,885 Moema (5335).

14. Clinica Shangri-l. Av. Pompia, 1062 Pompia (5230).

15. Clinica Red Massagem. Av. Moema, 841 Moema (5082).

16. Clinica Cancioneiro. Are. Novo Cancioneiro, 88 Brooklin (4385).

17. Clinica Moema Prime. Av. Ira, 511 (4849).

18. Clinica Miruna. Av. Miruna 644, Moema (3989).

19. Kellys Massagens. Are Serra de Jureia 442 Tatuape (3679).

20. Clinica Chanel-A. Ceci, 2236- Planalto Paulista (3185).

21.101 Espao Morumbi. Rua Chafic Maluf 101 (3132).

22. Clinica Cherry. Are. Pascal 2019 - Campo Belo (2891).

23. Clinica Fennix. Are. Maria Fagnani, 47 - So Judas (2885).

24. Clinica ReservaLux. Are. Loefgreen, 1438 - V. Clementino (2488).

25. Clinica Allure. Are. Jos Oscar Abreu Sampaio, 411 Tatuap (2516).

26. Clinica Yankin. Rua Dr. Jos de Queirz Aranha, 148 - Ana Rosa (1786).

27. Clinica Vani's Way. Rua Dom Antonio Galvo, 266 (1733).

28. Espao Absolut. Rua Carlos Meira, 92, Penha (1674).

29. Advance Vip. Are. Professor Santiago Dantas, 62 Morumbi (1673).

30. Clinica Olimpo Massagens. Rua So Serafim, 493 - Penha de Frana. Zona Leste (1650).

31. Clinica Tkio. Are. Caramuru, 704 Sade (1462).

32. Clinica Aneesh. Are. Tavares Bastos, 547 Pompia (1373).

33. Clinica Anavrin Massagens- Rua Batataes 197, Jardins (1309).

34. Spa Azumi massagens. Rua coronel otaviano the Silveira 235 Vl Sonia (1242).

35. Clinica Abbbora. Alameda dos Guaramomis, 1275 Moema (1032).

36. Clinica Espao Maituna. Are. Conselheiro Saraiva, 628, Santana (968).

37. Espao Diamante Rua Diamante Preto 292 - Vila Carro (933).

38. Clinica La Vie SPA Tantrica. Rua Lus Gis, 820 Mirandpolis (798).

When you say "frequency of recommendations" are you referring to this web site, some other web site, or something else?

[QUOTE=Ak233;3024022]Here is a list of SP massage clinics ranked by frequency of recommendations (in parentheses). There are noticeable absences (Lotus lounge, Palms, Sharon Premium, Oro, Taj Mahal). All have telephone numbers, most have websites and Whatsapp numbers. Some publish girl photos on their website, most have Whatsapp photo updates. Whatsapp is essential for easy clinic contact.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3024024]When you say "frequency of recommendations" are you referring to this web site, some other web site, or something else?[/QUOTE]Gp guia. Maybe more accurate to say activity of comments surrounding clinic. Clinica Brooklin currently has 2477 pages with 37145 comments. Please feel free to correct me as I am doing research.

I'm interested in Abbobora, Lotus, Oro and the palms. Are these clinicas FS or just HJ massage?

[QUOTE=Ak233;3024019]Thought I would repost this useful information.[/QUOTE]No need to repost, it's already present in the posts of distinction tab.