Jakarta

[QUOTE=FriendlyPlanet;2989389]KI, not KL- Sari Ayu is a bar in North Jakarta, on Jl. Pangeran.[/QUOTE]KI = kota indah, literaly "beautiful town". It is called "komplex" I guess because it is made up of several venues that belong together. You access kota indah through a major thoroughfare called "pangeran jayakarta" (literaly "jayakarta prince"). The taxi will prefer to stop on pangeran jayakarta for you to walk the last 100 m, rather than drive into the alleys of the komplex.

[QUOTE=Notconcerned;2989314]I've been to Jakarta many times pre-pandemic. I had never found anything to my liking but after reading reports here, I wanted to try out Classic Hotel. The price seemed unbeatable and I was willing to tip more for a few things I wanted.

After getting her all wet, I got on top of her and fucked her. She was not as tight as I was expecting. And I'm just average size. We fucked for 5 minutes or so until I came inside her. I had a 2 week load, so I came fast. Watched the cum leak out and then I ate the creampie for a while. Then showered.

Only negative was that there was no post-sex cuddle. I also tried to take photos but she refused and I didn't press. She had a good personality despite no English. She later told me she was from Bandung and had a daughter there.

I gave her 200 k tip. When we got back to the bar, she gave 50 k to mamasan. Overall, I achieved what I wanted, so it was a good experience and would repeat.

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I wanted to take pics of her creampie but she refused again. I thought now that we had a rapport she would be receptive, but no big deal. No post-sex cuddle, just washed up and then tipped her 200 k again.

The phone rang right when we finished putting clothes on. It seems like the 1-hour is not from the time you enter the room but from the time you pay. So in reality, you only get around 45 min inside.
[/QUOTE]I don't have experience with paying for photos (maybe someone else here has? But you might try to tip in different way and see if that improves your results. 200 k is imo too much for what is more or less regular service. I tipped 100 k for that, and some of the more experienced brothers here said even that was too much.

I instead suggest you tell her that you will give her a 200 k tip if she lets you take the photos. If not, just give a normal tip if service was decent but not spectacular (50-100 k).

[QUOTE=XXL;2989418]KI = kota indah, literaly "beautiful town". It is called "komplex" I guess because it is made up of several venues that belong together. You access kota indah through a major thoroughfare called "pangeran jayakarta" (literaly "jayakarta prince"). The taxi will prefer to stop on pangeran jayakarta for you to walk the last 100 m, rather than drive into the alleys of the komplex.[/QUOTE]You mean at Starmoon Bar.

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[QUOTE=Werqweq;2989435]I don't have experience with paying for photos (maybe someone else here has? But you might try to tip in different way and see if that improves your results. 200 k is imo too much for what is more or less regular service. I tipped 100 k for that, and some of the more experienced brothers here said even that was too much.

I instead suggest you tell her that you will give her a 200 k tip if she lets you take the photos. If not, just give a normal tip if service was decent but not spectacular (50-100 k).[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback. Good to know. For some reason, I thought 200 k tip was the going rate for BBFS and CIP. Next time I will try a different sliding scale for sex and photos. It was a bit tough trying to negotiate all that with a translation app.

[QUOTE=Notconcerned;2989454]Thanks for the feedback. Good to know. For some reason, I thought 200 k tip was the going rate for BBFS and CIP. Next time I will try a different sliding scale for sex and photos. It was a bit tough trying to negotiate all that with a translation app.[/QUOTE]I have taken selfies with over 50 girls from classic whom I have also bareback CIPd.

First of all learn some basic bahasa phrases. Atleast tell her "kamu cantik" and be able to ask "Siapa namamu?" and "kamu darimana? And be able to make small talk like that. Contrary to what Werweq says, 200 k is not too much for bbfscip. It is within the range of what most girls at classic will accept (some will accept lower and some will demand higher). Also bbfscip is not a "basic service" such as Werweq says. Basic service is BBBJ after being wiped down with Listerine and then condom sex. And if you are getting only the basic service you shouldn't even tip 50 k. I never understood these guys tipping for nothing. Just because you do that in restaurants in the US and Canada doesn't mean you do it in a *****house in Jakarta.

That being said start out offering lower for BBFS start out at 100 k (try to learn how to say "Seratus Ribu" (Sare Ratoos Ree Boo) just like that. If she says no then go up to 150 k "Seratus, Lima puluh ribu" just like that. (this is also why it's important to get blue notes instead of red notes at the ATM. Use the machines with the Rp50,000 sticker on them). Anyways if she still says no then say 200 k duaratus ribu but don't just start out there right off the bat. That's going to give the girl all the leverage and you will miss out on paying less if she would have taken less. I was there for 2 months and found that many of them would accept 100 k or 150 k but some wanted 200 k or even more. The pretty Girl with the bow in her hair from terminal 5 for example, asks for 300 k. So you will find that there is not a set one price that they all accept for bbfscip.

Also about pictures do not offer 200 k for pictures as Werweq said. That is horrible advice. You can offer them extra money for pictures "uang ekstra" but don't go overboard with it. Something like 20 k or 30 k should be plenty. Often times I would take that staple out of the 35 k the mamasan gives you back for the change and give the girl the 30 k for taking a selfie and keep the 5 k for my exit payment.

Hope this helps.

Gabacho.

Source of information: Constantly going to Classic T2 and T5 in Nov and Dec 2024.

How do you say in indo, "tip will be in cash".

[QUOTE=Notconcerned;2989454]Thanks for the feedback. Good to know. For some reason, I thought 200 k tip was the going rate for BBFS and CIP. Next time I will try a different sliding scale for sex and photos. It was a bit tough trying to negotiate all that with a translation app.[/QUOTE]Please don't ruin the prices so we can have fun for a long time! I've never paid a single dollar for pictures. When you tip, which you probably do anyway, ask for a photo. They'll do it for you.

Hi this is plantsmoke, I'm arriving at the end of ramadan to Jakarta. In my preparation I made a decision early between two: 1. Get info from kaskus indo. Forums 2. Translate indo. News reports.

Well I chose Indonesia news. I did not really understand kaskus. I have not seen any contributors on this forum translate kaskus reports. I guess I would not know if a report here came from kaskus or not.

Translating Indonesia news reports was extremely laborius. It started with typing psk, prostitusi Jakarta in a google box. Sorry I'm going to upload this now. I am a dumbshit andf don t know how to copy or to compose report in a email or notepad. Kind of stupid software that your log-in would time out and you would lose report. With life full of time outs such as the hour at classic and a phone call why can't WSG be differernt? There should be a tutorial here on how you keep from having yolur report dissappear.

This is a add-on to JjBee62 1-30-25 tangerang massage report. I turned up this information translating Indonesia news reports. Obviously these are raw reports and because they are published.

The "powers to be" know about them too. However it is my experience that when a lokalisasi is raided, that vice does not just disappear, and when it does, it relocates usually not too far away.

Who wants to make a bet if you got a motobike in the old rawa malang cilincing lokalisasi site and asked your driver.

, "where are the girls" he would take you not very far away?

Tanjerang:

-mardigrass citra raya, panongan district. Supposedly there is a red light area here.

-kali mati area.

-pasar kemis area.

-kutabumi main market.

-cingluh factory area.

-selapajang next to gerendeng gas station.

-tanah tinggi market.

I believe this is the great equalizer to indonesias cleanse campaign. Obviously with PSK in the search box these "areas" are street hookers.

[QUOTE=LetMeIn6969;2984259]Go to Classic, ask mama Cha Cha for Nia. She does rimming. One thing that I usually do is that while taking a shower together, I made her wash my ass real good. That way she knows that it's clean and won't hesitate to Mandi Kucing.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the recommendation. I tend to avoid classic given the reports of BBFS / CIP on the forum.

Went there and had an average experience. Plus new rules make it more expensive.

1) Now the 200 k tip is included in the bill directly. Which means for 1. 2 m category girls you pay 1. 4 m at counter. And for 1. 4 m category it is 1. 6 m just for the girl.

2) While they say tip more directly to the girl only if you want, it is difficult to say no because everytime after service girls will ask for tip. Personally for me it's 100-200 k extra.

3) For 1. 4 m category, you are mandated to book a suite. Which is another 270/300 k. So if you book 1. 4 category, you pay close to 1. 9 m at counter, which is higher than 1001 I think.

4) They also now push you for threesome which is annoying.

Overall don't think the increased premium is justified, plus when I sold mamasan I didn't like service for one girl (super smelly down there which killed the vibe), he said others had always given good feedback.

Personally I'll avoid this place for a while as other options more reasonable with similar quality. If I have a budget for 2 juta, I'll likely go for 1001 if I get a good mamasan.

[QUOTE=PartyAnimal;2989646]Went there and had an average experience. Plus new rules make it more expensive.

1) Now the 200 k tip is included in the bill directly. Which means for 1. 2 m category girls you pay 1. 4 m at counter. And for 1. 4 m category it is 1. 6 m just for the girl.

2) While they say tip more directly to the girl only if you want, it is difficult to say no because everytime after service girls will ask for tip. Personally for me it's 100-200 k extra.

3) For 1. 4 m category, you are mandated to book a suite. Which is another 270/300 k. So if you book 1. 4 category, you pay close to 1. 9 m at counter, which is higher than 1001 I think.

4) They also now push you for threesome which is annoying.

Overall don't think the increased premium is justified, plus when I sold mamasan I didn't like service for one girl (super smelly down there which killed the vibe), he said others had always given good feedback.

Personally I'll avoid this place for a while as other options more reasonable with similar quality. If I have a budget for 2 juta, I'll likely go for 1001 if I get a good mamasan.[/QUOTE]Good to know. I'll stay away from Emporium during my forthcoming April trip. Even with the old pricing, I only found Emporium worthwhile because my hotel was a stone's throw away. I didn't find the line-up overwhelming. Also, the 2 good girls I sessioned turned out not to be available when I later wanted to repeat. Which implies, alas, that they may have plenty of overpaying customers and can afford to hike prices.

Although I've been most everywhere I've not been to Jakrta and am considering a trip. Obviously to those of us coming from other geographies the idea that $123 USD is expensive just doesn't compute! Jakarta is def one of the best values worldwide. Clearly.

For me, Emporium at $125 sounds wonderful. But what are the alternatives. I did all this research maybe a year ago and was a little confused on 1001 Colleseum and the pool area. Is that three different clubs or it's all part of one? Is that the best alternative to Emporium for high end fun? What's the scoop on CJs and Mailoboro in comparison.

[QUOTE=Notconcerned;2989454]Thanks for the feedback. Good to know. For some reason, I thought 200 k tip was the going rate for BBFS and CIP. Next time I will try a different sliding scale for sex and photos. It was a bit tough trying to negotiate all that with a translation app.[/QUOTE]Just tell her what you want to do (sex without condom and photo in your case), and that you will give a tip. If she ask how much, you can negotiate a bit, but I suspect 200 k is good enough for BBFS with some photos, depending on the photos too I guess.

I don't think it's worth it to say you will tip X for that, Y for this, etc., if that's what you mean by a sliding scale. Easier to say what you want to do and that you will tip. From a negotiation point of view it reduces the risk of the girl agreeing to some of what you want, but not all, because she thinks you tipping just X for that is not worth it for her, and that instead you tipping Y for this is enough of a tip for her. When it's instead a package deal (BBFSCIP and photos for 200 k), it's easier to say yes and get the tip, than to say no and not getting the tip. If she says no to photos (I sure would if my face was showing) in the end, you can of course still offer her a lower tip for just the BB.

Except for one session (my last threesome), nobody at Classic ever demanded more than a 100 k tip from me I think. Many, maybe most, did not demand any tip upfront at all for BBFS, so I grew to consider that more or less normal service, for which they probably expected an extra tip, which I of course provided. As always, YMMV, and I had one or two girls who refused to drop the condom, even if I upped the tip.

[QUOTE=PartyAnimal;2989646]Went there and had an average experience. Plus new rules make it more expensive.

1) Now the 200 k tip is included in the bill directly. Which means for 1. 2 m category girls you pay 1. 4 m at counter. And for 1. 4 m category it is 1. 6 m just for the girl.

2) While they say tip more directly to the girl only if you want, it is difficult to say no because everytime after service girls will ask for tip. Personally for me it's 100-200 k extra.

3) For 1. 4 m category, you are mandated to book a suite. Which is another 270/300 k. So if you book 1. 4 category, you pay close to 1. 9 m at counter, which is higher than 1001 I think.

4) They also now push you for threesome which is annoying.

Overall don't think the increased premium is justified, plus when I sold mamasan I didn't like service for one girl (super smelly down there which killed the vibe), he said others had always given good feedback.

Personally I'll avoid this place for a while as other options more reasonable with similar quality. If I have a budget for 2 juta, I'll likely go for 1001 if I get a good mamasan.[/QUOTE]That's not nice to hear. I never cared before about the price difference between the categories much before (compared to my travel and room costs, it's too small to care about), but 1. 4 juta (with the mandatory tip) vs 1. 9 juta (with the mandatory) tip is a difference for me. Insisting you have to take a suit (no idea what I'd do there even, as it's not like you're going to spend much time in the room, especially as it's now just one hour (unlike a hotel suite) is just taking the piss IMO.

I really liked Emporivum for the pool, as it's really nice to sit and relax there with a pretty girl for 20-30 minutes an evening you're not busy, but with these extra charges I'm not sure I'll be visiting again. Maybe I'll do my part to confirm the new prices via whatsapp next summer, and then let them know I'm not visiting because of that, though I guess they've raised the prices because they have too many customers already.

Maybe I'll try 1001 for the first time instead, though one minus is, as far as I can tell from other reports here, the girl can for some reason not join you in the pool.