Hong Kong Club Reports

OK for those fearing Tijuana, or MX in general, I have to drop my dos pesos.

I've been an off and on visitor of the Zona for over 30 years. I've also lived along the Pacific Coast between Mazatlan and Acapulco for a total of five years. Never have had a bad experience. I eat the food on the streets, drink whatever the locals are drinking, smile a lot, and treat my hosts with respect. Got a traffic ticket in Cabo once for turning into a one way that was clearly marked, but I just didn't see the sign. This was back when most of the streets were dirt surfaced. Went to the station with the cop, paid the fine in cash, and was blown away when it showed up on my Cali DMV printout. And remember, NEVER EVER get anywhere near visibly drunk in public, but then what country would that be a great idea in after all?

I just drove across the border, as I always do. Parked across from Chicago (remember when it was the hottest place in town?) , in the $5 all night lot. Get there early enough (3-4) and you get a spot where you can keep your keys. Even if you have to leave them so they can move your car around it is a safe place to park. I seem to think there is a lull in the Northbound traffic around 7-8 in the evening so I am back in the US well before any of the late night scammers may be out looking for a target.

Tiffany at Hong Kong has been a favorite for the past couple years and tonight she decided to remind me that she is not only the sexiest lady in the Zona, but that she can be one of the most sensual as well. Felt like a real spectacle in the booth, and a real teenager when she led me upstairs. This long tall blonde doesn't speak much English but knows how to make me feel like a happy, much younger man.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1251832]I understand why it happen, but does have to be so damn dramatic? I mean they had enough weapons to siege Jamaica. :D[/QUOTE]The different varieties of Police in MX have always been heavily armed. Recall this is a nation with a long history of revolution, and the current wars between the narco's and the cops would have me feeling way better wearing the flack jackets and automatic weapons they are carrying, if I were in the lousy position to be a cop in MX. My hat is off to these kids who choose to not join the gangs, and are willing to stand up in the face of the crazies out gunning them down. I've had the Federal Police search through my car full of camping gear very carefully in the past. I was able to overhear that they were looking for one thing only. Guns. A huge percentage of the guns the cops down South face come across the border, and I sure feel like they have a strong legal basis to check for them.

Don't be intimidated, or put off by the uniform of the day. It's the way it is, and always has been. The locals consider it a normal part of their society.

I'm not making excuses for the bad actors in uniform. I know they exist. I've just been lucky enough to never have to deal with them.

Was to rob the girls. The cops went through all their lockers and took cash, I'd's, bank cards, jewlery, etc.

Names, description, prrformace in room, anal, BBBJ?

I've had.

Darina.

Camilla.

Ruby.

Sharon.

Paulina.

Kenya.

In adelitas:

Sofia

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1252083]Names, description, prrformace in room, anal, BBBJ?[/QUOTE]Can't say about anal, few BBBJ in the club. Much better luck with that if you can negotiate an overnight off site. The girls in HK do seem to have a romantic streak.

Yesterday I followed my pattern of something old and something new. After resting up from the great session with Tiffany I tried a girl that said it was her third day in Tijuana. An unusual name, something like Syronia. Slender with small natural breasts. True energizer bunny in the room. DT with just a bit of tooth, I like that. Willing and anxious to try all sorts of positions. She will go on the list for a repeat.

Thank you Lilly for vitamin C.

Afraid I can't help much beyond that with a list. I remember the bodies, and faces, but not many names.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1; 1252083]Names, description, prrformace in room, anal, BBBJ?

I've had.

Darina.

Camilla.

Ruby.

Sharon.

Paulina.

Kenya.

In adelitas:

Sofia[/QUOTE]Nice list, I smiled when I saw Kenya on it, fun little blonde, I have enjoyed her several times. With permed hair and straight.

There used to be a little brunette that used the name Kenya, I haven't seen her in over a year. I really enjoyed her, fun to drink with and a nice GFE in bed. Too bad she's not around anymore.

Question to the board and anyone who has owned a bar. If one of us went down to Tijuana, bought a club, and turned it into a terma type place, do you think we would be killed pretty fast. Lets say we got rid of all the shit we hate about HK. No waiters, no cum boys, no hassles, but a real entrance fee. Hell, we could even pay the girls 5 a day to show up for work, with a 10 to 15 dollar entrance fee. What would it cost?

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1252194]Question to the board and anyone who has owned a bar. If one of us went down to Tijuana, bought a club, and turned it into a terma type place, do you think we would be killed pretty fast. Lets say we got rid of all the shit we hate about HK. No waiters, no cum boys, no hassles, but a real entrance fee. Hell, we could even pay the girls 5 a day to show up for work, with a 10 to 15 dollar entrance fee. What would it cost?[/QUOTE]At one time I had a business license, and residence status in MX. I maintained my US passport. One of the biggest issues involved in getting the license was to be certain that I was not unfairly competing with any local operators. It took a special lawyer and affidavits from the business community. Once that was established they were happy to collect the taxes.

My guess is that in trying to get the licenses you would need, that plenty of local operators would show up to be sure that you would never get the paperwork straight. Years back the only way to have a business was to have a MX citizen as the owner. I suspect this might be the only way to make this work. Unfortunately you would be dealing with people that are raking in huge money, and might be pretty angry about any new competition. For your personal health and safety I think I'd shelve this plan.

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1252194]Question to the board and anyone who has owned a bar. If one of us went down to Tijuana, bought a club, and turned it into a terma type place, do you think we would be killed pretty fast. Lets say we got rid of all the shit we hate about HK. No waiters, no cum boys, no hassles, but a real entrance fee. Hell, we could even pay the girls 5 a day to show up for work, with a 10 to 15 dollar entrance fee. What would it cost?[/QUOTE]No waiters = less drinks sold. No waiters = girls sitting with guys for free / no profit for the bar.

No cum boys? Cum boys are the best deal in town. Where else you going to find some to pick up your sticky condom and throw it away for a buck?

Why pay the girls to show up when they currently show up for free? In the states, they use to pay strippers. Now, the strippers pay the bar to work.

I like going back and forth from bar to bar. If every bar charges a cover, guys will stay at one place the entire night.

HK waiters are way more aggressive than AB waiters. A good waiter keeps you glass full, w / o being a bother.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1252396]No waiters = less drinks sold. No waiters = girls sitting with guys for free / no profit for the bar.

No cum boys? Cum boys are the best deal in town. Where else you going to find some to pick up your sticky condom and throw it away for a buck?

Why pay the girls to show up when they currently show up for free? In the states, they use to pay strippers. Now, the strippers pay the bar to work.

I like going back and forth from bar to bar. If every bar charges a cover, guys will stay at one place the entire night.

HK waiters are way more aggressive than AB waiters. A good waiter keeps you glass full, w / o being a bother.[/QUOTE]The girls are employees of the club. They are on the payroll and do receive a modest salary.

I don't know the particulars, but they also get some sort of medical insurance.

[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1252445]The girls are employees of the club. They are on the payroll and do receive a modest salary.

I don't know the particulars, but they also get some sort of medical insurance.[/QUOTE]Yes they do get a modest salary, but the medical they receive is the national standard. Everyone in MX is covered. While holding a resident visa, as a non-citizen I was able to buy into the plan for $350 / yr. That's right, per year. Used it twice, once for an emergency which was handled immediately, the other for a chronic condition where I had to wait a week for an appointment. Many of the doctors were US trained, and facilities were always clean. Most expats consider it one of the best deals available anywhere.

Sorry for getting way off topic here, but this is a soap box subject for me. And, yes I will be moving back to MX as soon as I can make it happen.

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1252194]Question to the board and anyone who has owned a bar. If one of us went down to Tijuana, bought a club, and turned it into a terma type place, do you think we would be killed pretty fast. Lets say we got rid of all the shit we hate about HK. No waiters, no cum boys, no hassles, but a real entrance fee. Hell, we could even pay the girls 5 a day to show up for work, with a 10 to 15 dollar entrance fee. What would it cost?[/QUOTE]I owned a club in Mexicali for 2 years. Had a female Mexican partner. We put it in her name to avoid all of the hassles. She was an ex working girl in Mexicali and knew just about all of the working girls in Mexicali. This made it easy to recruit the right girls to work in the club. Only problem was that I could only be in Mexico for a week every other week. The week that I was in town, the club made a ton of money. The week that I was in the United States it lost a ton of money. So if you can't be there all of the time, don't do it.

I ended up selling my half to my partner and two years later it was out of business as she did not know how to run a business.

Overall it was a great experience. I acquired an enormous amount of knowledge about the workings of a club and its girls in Mexico which helps me alot in my pursuits of pleasure in Tijuana.

I don't think that a terma type place would work in Mexico. You need the Mexican customers and I don't think that they would go for it. And yes the girls in the clubs earn a modest salary plus commission on the fichas plus whatever they can earn in the bedroom. You do need waiters as beer income is neccesary for success. That bottle of beer that you buy for $4 costs the bar owner about 60 cents.

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1252194]Question to the board and anyone who has owned a bar. If one of us went down to Tijuana, bought a club, and turned it into a terma type place, do you think we would be killed pretty fast. Lets say we got rid of all the shit we hate about HK. No waiters, no cum boys, no hassles, but a real entrance fee. Hell, we could even pay the girls 5 a day to show up for work, with a 10 to 15 dollar entrance fee. What would it cost?[/QUOTE]If I remember correctly, there was an American who briefly owned a stake in a bar directly across the street from Adelita Bar a few years back. He introduced himself to me as the owner and he was advertising his bar on a few long forgotten Tijuana messageboards. When I asked a few acquaintances about him, I was told that he was bad news and to steer clear of him. This venture only lasted a few months and the guy just sort of disappeared. I think that the bar was called 'REDACCION' or something like that. Maybe some of the veteran board members have a better memory than me.

Saturday night was a very fun night at HK. It is a rare occurrence but white girls sometimes visit HK. There was a group of 4 with a few guys with them. They were watching the lesbian shaving cream show upstairs when one of them decided to kiss one of the girls. That brought up a cheer from the crowd and a chant for more. To everyone's disappointment kissing was the only thing she did. Ofcourse the shaving cream girls tried to pull her on stage to no avail. A little later 2 of the white girls thought it would be fun to dance on the pole while the shaving cream girls were performing. I guess anyone on the pole is fair game for groping. One of the older mexican men took the opportunity to cope a feel from her ankle to her inner thigh, the girl gave a squeal and shortly after got down. The other girl on stage saw what was happening and decided to get down before any hands went for her. The lucky man didn't even give her a dollar.

Later on that night HK actually had 6 girls on stage for the shaving cream show on the south stage. It was definitely a feast for the eyes, I'm not complaining but it didn't seem. Whats the term. Cost effective I think. Sure it makes for a great show, but I don't think the girls made as much if they had only 2 on stage. The tipping didn't seem to increase proportionally to the amount of girls available. Again not complaining but definitively something you should see once in your life.

One thing I would like to mention is that HK was packed all night. I was there from 8 til 2 am and it was just as packed as when I first arrived, it felt like there were more people at 2 am than 8pm. I could hardly find a place to sit. Even when I wanted to buy a girl a drink it was hard to find a table. Adelitas was nearly the same way. It was kind of a disappointing night for me, my plan for the night was to interview for girls in hopes of finding another regular because one of my jealous regulars was away on vacation. I know I shouldn't worry about that kind of stuff, but my HK regular gives me excellent GFE service and that's not easy to find. I like to have 1 regular in each club but HK has so many fine young ladies, I feel like I shouldn't restrict myself.

[QUOTE=Sock111;1254972]Later on that night HK actually had 6 girls on stage for the shaving cream show on the south stage. It was definitely a feast for the eyes, I'm not complaining but it didn't seem. Whats the term. Cost effective I think. Sure it makes for a great show, but I don't think the girls made as much if they had only 2 on stage. The tipping didn't seem to increase proportionally to the amount of girls available. Again not complaining but definitively something you should see once in your life.[/QUOTE]Wow. 6 girls on stage for the shaving cream show. I have not seen that yet but I hope they do it on Wednesday when I go. Thanks for the report.