Dubai Reports

Lots of variables here.

You can get laid ST for 50 Dirhams if that is your choice. You can also grab a stunner for 1500+ Dirhams if that is your choice.

I have found (for me anyway) attractive CIS and PRC ladies for 500 Dhs LT.

I have been quoted up to 1500Dhs (sort of a more recent trend, the earlier price jump was from 500 to 800, then a 1k asking price) and chose not to indulge.

IMHO, the supermodel types tend to not be available, remember that DXB is full of some seriously wealthy people, and a certain % of them do pay whatever it takes. Certainly out of my league.

Bottom line, in my experience, ST 300, LT 500-800. I would rate the girls at this price level as 7-8. YMMV.

I suggest that the "grass is always greener" effect could have something to do with the "make more money" comments from the ladies.

Sebastian

The regular DBX residents have the advantage over the likes of you and I in that they have a lot more time on their hands and have the opportunity to oragnise regulars and repeat business discounts. That an the major bonus of being able to walk away if the prices are not to their liking.

In my humble experience, flying into DBX for 2/3 nights at a time 2-3 times a year and looking to land myself with an A-list stunner with a great GFE attitude, the PRC honeys tend to run between 800-1000 Dhs in the Cyclone, and 400-800 in the venues like Rattlesnake and Seaview etc. and that is with the sweetener of a reasonable looking bloke, duty free champagne in the hotel room, a little home-grown if I bring it and a party for both of us, not just a rut.

CIS will start at around 1500Dhs in the Cyclone and Premier, and open with around 1000DHS in the Regal Plaza. I haven't bothered with CIS from anywhere else as they tend to have a shite attitude and be in the bottom half of the league.

I know I may be paying over the odds compared to the residents, but I am on the clock and on holiday, and if I have found a girl that floats my boat, smiles and laughs at my jokes, goes like a belt-fed mortar and cuts up my breakfast to feed to me in manageable pieces, I am happy with the cost/benefit ratio.

However, to get the upper end of the price scale for either continent, there needs to be a spark there and not just something nice to look at. I have walked away from breath-taking beauties who want 1000 or less just because they are miserable and make no efffoert in trying to enjoy themselves and make the best of their situation.

It's your money, your standards, your time. Just make sure you enjoy old son.

[QUOTE=Slugger] and that is with the sweetener of a reasonable looking bloke, duty free champagne in the hotel room, a little home-grown if I bring it [/QUOTE]Slugger, I will not give you a sermon, but unless you are [b]seriously[/b] connected, I think you are taking a huge risk with the "home grown" in the UAE.

To each their own.

[QUOTE=Kimo29]What are your recommendation for two nights. I mean to save time and money as well. Cyclone, preimer, amensia or York, rattlesnack, rockefellas, TIGIT taking into account that I have 2 nights only.[/quote][b]I moved this out of the hotel thread as getting a bit off-topic there.[/b]

Saving time AND money are mutually exclusive. My advice is to pick [b]A[/b] bar per night (unless in the Golden Triangle area), especially as some of the top bars (Cyclone, Premiere) have mandatory, high, entrance fees. Why waste time and money running around looking for [b]THE[/b] one? For me, I can find THE one in just about any bar I visit, and I do have to find her [i]attractive[/i]. As BarCrawler posted a couple of pages back, I define attractive as looks [b]AND[/b] attitude [u]with me[/u], being the best indicator of a fun time.

If it was me, and you wanted to splurge, I'd say Cyclone 1 night. The other? Hit the Golden Triangle - Jockey's late afternoon, Imperial mid-evening (9:30), then perhaps Rockafellas post 11pm. Trying to do EVERY bar is a hassle. You didn't say what nights, but Thursdays are ALWAYS crowded.

Watch your wallet in Imperial.

[QUOTE=Kimo29]Since I will be staying at Panorama I think I will not be charged to enter the Jockeys pub right?[/quote]This is dxb - comes down to race more than anything. But you should have a reasonable shot. If not, I wouldn't pay to get in unless you were desperate to kill some time.

[QUOTE=Kimo29]Moreover do you think 200USD I think thats approx 730AED will get a 7 CIS? [/quote]Without doubt, the only question is, for how long? :)

[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]I fully agree, anyway why bother with the Cyclone when the same girls also go to the Imperial Suites on occasions and can be taken from there at less than half the Cyclone rate.

The previous post which suggested a possible boycott of the Cyclone for a week or so would soon bring the prices there back down to ground level was an excellent idea, but alsl will never happen.[/QUOTE]I've even seen a Cyclone a-lister in an afternoon's TGIT on occasion, but I wouldn't count on it. With Cyclone, you KNOW you will find any number of a-listers. With other places (Imperial), maybe, maybe not.

Myself, I'm a hard-core capitalist, believing in the free market. I say, if a girl can get 1000, 1500, more power to her. I know some that do, taking nothing less, and could easily sit out a week, even a month, relishing the "holiday". Now I won't pay that, but obviously some do. And the dream of THOSE punters is what keeps the gristmill fed.

[QUOTE=Sebastian My]Based on my Russian lady friends comments i expected the price range would be about 183 Dirham ($US50) for ST. However i noticed the price ranges mentioned in this post seems much higher than this.[/quote]I think you should have your "russian lady friends" put that in writing so you can show the CIS wg's at Cyclone or Rockafellas... :)

[QUOTE=Sebastian My]The standard, un-negotiated price in Beijing, for a bird from Russia (Moscow/St Petersburg normally) or a Russian girl from Uzbekistan is typically 374 Dirham ST & 936 Dirham LT (I have converted from RM to Dirham). A high class and nice Chinese girl typically costs about 468 Dirham for LT and half that for ST.[/quote]Sounds like Bejing and dxb similiar in at least some [i]shopping[/i] items... though I'd say the top-end PRC's here are a similar 800-1000...

[QUOTE=Sebastian My]... but i have found most locations will typically have a “standard” price range for an average nice girl, which all pricing is measured against. Are the prices i quoted above the correct standard prices?[/quote]I'd say there is a "syndicate" at Cyclone that has agreed to keep the prices in the above stated range. Enough customers willing to pay that that they can. But not unreasonable, given the living costs here (and the area of the world... we often forget exactly WHERE we are...)

[QUOTE=Sebastian My]Definitions - In case definitions differ between Beijing and Dubai, ST is normally 1 shot taking about 1-2 hours (not including travel time), LT is any number of shots with the girl staying all night and having breakfast with you.[/QUOTE]Obviously an experienced punter, as definitions do differ from place to place. I'd say a ST is negotiable - some will try to make that 1 shot as fast as possible (some of the Cyclone a-listers will say, "we say an hour, but know 45 minutes to get the job done..."). With others, you can negotiate several shots, limited time (say 90 minutes to 2 hours). They will factor in travel time in the price quote.

[QUOTE=Sporadic]I have been quoted up to 1500Dhs (sort of a more recent trend, the earlier price jump was from 500 to 800, then a 1k asking price) and chose not to indulge.[/quote]Definitely has gone up over the past year, and NOW, much less willingness to offer a discount. Given the LE crackdowns, where any time, you can be history, think looking more for the big score, minimize risk, rather than returning to the bar for a chance of a [i]double header[/i] as in the old days.

[QUOTE=Slugger]That an the major bonus of being able to walk away if the prices are not to their liking. ... I know I may be paying over the odds compared to the residents, but I am on the clock and on holiday, and if I have found a girl that floats my boat, smiles and laughs at my jokes, goes like a belt-fed mortar and cuts up my breakfast to feed to me in manageable pieces, I am happy with the cost/benefit ratio.[/quote]Agreed. If you are here for only a few days, do you really want to go home to say, "Well, she just wouldn't budge from 1000 down to my 800, so I slept alone."? How good of a memory/story is THAT?

[QUOTE=Slugger]... the PRC honeys tend to run between 800-1000 Dhs in the Cyclone, and 400-800 in the venues like Rattlesnake and Seaview etc. and that is with the sweetener of a reasonable looking bloke, duty free champagne in the hotel room, a little home-grown if I bring it and a party for both of us, not just a rut.[/quote]Prices similiar for a past-his-prime, beer in the fridge, nice guy (can confirm by personal experience). After money comes safety in their preferences... The rut is fending off the idiots...

And I agree with Sporadic. [b]You[/b] do what you want, but even the american hip-hop artist (don't like that genre so can't remember his name), arriving for Naome Campbell's birthday bash at the Burj, customs found some "no-no" in his bag, and... missed the party, and is CONSIDERABLY LIGHTER in the wallet to buy his way out after several weeks in jail. Also same true for some big-name types, CONNECTED, from India. Maybe you get in, no problem, but if you EVER get popped.... say goodbye to life as you knew it.

Dear mate,

Yhanks all for your help and comments. I will be in Dubai on Friday 29/12/2006 till Sunday 31/12/2006. I will arrive hopefully around 5 pm. Do I hit the Cyclone on that day around 10 pm and the next day check as suggested by your good self Tigit, Jockeys, Rockfellas, Imperial Suites.

I thought 730 aed for LT, know that the going rates is now 1000 to 1500 but of course I am aware of your instructions which I read very carefully. No overpayment, no pay to a third person, pay after in your hotel room etc.

In your opinion after the raid on Cyclone should I switch to Preimer or Amensia.

Thanks again guys I will give you my detailed report once I am back.

I put an ad on the net a few days ago, asking for a discrete girlfriend "... to have fun times with a married guy". After a few days, no replies, so yesterday I changed my ad: " ... to have fun times with a [b]generous[/b] married guy". Now I'm starting to get some replies.

Women!

The replies came from an escort, a few girls from overseas who want to come to Dubai, an engaged freebie girl I've shagged before (she doesn't know my new username), and surprisingly, a local Arab girl (she's the fastest - she wants to meet me on Thursday).

[QUOTE=Piper1]The replies came from an escort, a few girls from overseas who want to come to Dubai, an engaged freebie girl I've shagged before (she doesn't know my new username), and surprisingly, a local Arab girl (she's the fastest - she wants to meet me on Thursday).[/QUOTE]I shall be interested to watch developments with the local arab girl!

[QUOTE=Piper1]I put an ad on the net a few days ago, asking for a discrete girlfriend "... to have fun times with a married guy". After a few days, no replies, so yesterday I changed my ad: " ... to have fun times with a [b]generous[/b] married guy". Now I'm starting to get some replies.

Women!

The replies came from an escort, a few girls from overseas who want to come to Dubai, an engaged freebie girl I've shagged before (she doesn't know my new username), and surprisingly, a local Arab girl (she's the fastest - she wants to meet me on Thursday).[/QUOTE]I did the same thing a while back and had a great respone and still see one of the girls whenever I can.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Goater]I did the same thing a while back and had a great respone and still see one of the girls whenever I can.

Good luck.[/QUOTE]
Goater - I usually get a good response when I include the "what's in it for the girl" bit (eg free trip etc). I'm up-front about being married and not looking for a new wife etc, so that weeds out a lot of the time-waster replies.

I had a good thing going with the engaged girl some months ago, but then she started complaining that I have less time for her than her fiance does, and that was the end of that. Will see how it goes this time.

Anyway, keep reporting your adventures ol' chap.

[QUOTE=Kimo29]Do I hit the Cyclone on that day around 10 pm and the next day check as suggested by your good self Tigit, Jockeys, Rockfellas, Imperial Suites.[/quote]Where you go, and when, up to you. Just be glad you miss Thursday. And I'd reverse the order: Imperial first, then Rockafellas.

[QUOTE=Kimo29]No overpayment, no pay to a third person, pay after in your hotel room etc.[/quote]The no payment to a 3rd party is MANDATORY; the other two fine if accepted. Everyone has their own definition of [i]overpayment[/i].

[QUOTE=Kimo29]In your opinion after the raid on Cyclone should I switch to Preimer or Amensia.[/QUOTE]As I posted earlier, NONE of those are within my price ceiling anymore.

But good luck. The whole point is to have fun, rather than get the best bargain (at least for me).

I have been researching the thread for AMPs and I know from past experience they are pretty good in Dubai. However, since I have only 3 1/2 hours between flights I am trying to locate a Chinese MP relatively close to the Airport. I have read the list of places in the Khaleej Times classified. However, there is no way to tell which ones would be close to the Airport. Any help would be appreciated via PM or otherwise.

Valiant 2

some interesting reading on the crime page today:

gulf news, tuesday, 28 nov 06. bold my highlights.

[i]police and the courts
child molester given jail term

ras al khaimah: the criminal court has sentenced a man to three years imprisonment followed by deportation for molesting an eight-year-old girl.

a senior court official said the indian suspect identified as [b]f.h. confessed to his crime, claiming the eight-year-old pakistani girl had been paid.[/b]

he said the crime took place during ramadan. the suspect molested the girl and tried to take her to an isolated area behind her house.

the girl was crying but her elder brother, who went to the area, could not see the man or his sister as the accused had covered her mouth with his hand.

the suspect then let the girl go and she told her family about the suspect, who was still in the neighbourhood.

the family caught f.h. and called the police.

the court official said the family members officially accused the suspect of molesting the girl and the indian confessed his crime to police, the public prosecution and the criminal court.

the victim was summoned by the court for questioning.

the girl told the court that she was sitting in front of her family house during taraweeh prayers when the suspect approached her asking her to guide him to an address in the area.

the man then molested her. [b]the suspect told the court that he was told by close friends that the girl accepted money for services and hence he approached her. [/b]

the court dismissed all the accused's claims and sentenced him to three years in jail followed by deportation.[/i]
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she was paid, so it must be ok. i can only hope this pervert's cell mates are equally [i]compassionate[/i] to his pleas of "but i don't like anal intercourse" as they pay him with an extra piece of lunch bread.

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this one surprised me, given the nationalities involved:
gulf news, tuesday, 28 nov 06:

[i]prison sentence and 90 lashes for adultery

ras al khaimah: a court here has [b]sentenced an emirati to six months in prison and 90 lashes for committing adultery.

the accused was originally charged with kidnapping the victim, a russian woman, and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] her.

the court reduced the charges to adultery after the victim failed to appear even after repeated summons. the father of the accused had submitted documents proving that the victim had left the country.[/b] the accused had already spent four months in jail pending trial.

the uae national, identified as m.r., was arrested after the husband of the victim reported that he had kidnapped his wife and raped her.

during police investigation it was reported that the russian woman and her husband had flagged down m.r.'s car and asked them to be driven to a nightclub.

after spending some time in the club, the three left the place and the husband and the wife quarrelled.

the woman then asked the suspect to take her for a drive. they stopped at the suspect's home and had consensual sex and he then dropped her at the hotel.

meantime, the husband had reported to police that his wife had been kidnapped, and the woman later affirmed the kidnap and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] allegations.[/i]
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smart lady to leave while she could. here, no doubt in my mind, she would have been accused of being a prostitute. what i found interesting is the 6 months in jail and 90 lashes... for an emerati... there are lines, although one can often forget... remember, this was for [i]consensual[/i] sex, or so the court said.

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gulf news, tuesday, 28 nov 06:

[i]three policemen on trial for endangering couple's lives

dubai: three policemen went on trial on monday for endangering the lives of [b]a young couple who are also being tried for having an illicit relationship in a heavily-tinted car.[/b]

the dubai public prosecution had charged the uae national couple, 20-year-old male m.s. and 21-year-old female m.h., with having an illicit affair. a 27-year-old somali, m.m., and 25-year-old yemeni, a.k., were charged with endangering the couple's wife by chasing and blocking their car and [b]a.k. fired five bullets at the vehicle.[/b]

a.k., m.m. and their 30-year-old yemeni colleague, were also charged with lying under oath. the 25-year-old was solely charged with damaging m.s.'s car after firing five bullets at it.

the uae national suspects appeared in the dubai court of first instance on monday and pleaded innocent.

their legal advisor abdul hamid al kumity asked the court to dismiss the charge of 'having an illicit relationship' because they are married. al kumity handed the court his clients' marriage certificate.

gulf news had published the exclusive story in may 2006.

according to public prosecution records, a witness reported to police that he saw the 20-year-old suspect forcing the girl into his car in the al quoz area. in his statement, a.k. said when the couple's vehicle stopped after their warning, [b]he fired six cautionary shots in the air[/b] and three bullets at the tyres.

the girl said they spent intimate moments in the car before the cid civilian patrol chased them and endangered their lives.

the criminal laboratory confirmed that several bullets had hit the left rear side and the rear tyres of the car.

the male suspect filed an official complaint with the dubai attorney-general for being shot at.

a verdict in the case is expected soon.[/i]
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guess the cop does not understand the laws of physics: "fired 6 cautionary shots in the air", as in "they come down somewhere".

again with the [i]illicit relationship[/i] charge...

but i think the couple should be happy they don't live in new york, with the nypd... {"mayor calls 50 shots by the police ‘unacceptable’ "}.

Reliable sources from WGN (Working Girl Network) report that Feroza is now in Jail. I would appear that her house was busted, and she was charged under the "mamasan" statute vice just simple prositution.

The Sentence was 7 years. Reports say she could be deported if she pays some huge fine (or bribe?) and then will be deported and banned.

I would appear that, like has happened in so many other cases, that all her local "friends" have vanished from the scene.

She did have some police connections so this would seem to indicate that the crackdown is wider and deeper than previous efforts.

More updates from our DXB correspondents as events dictate.

Seven years seems a drastic sentence compared to the usual few months to a year. Maybe she rubbed someone up the wrong way.

Extract from today's Gulf news:

Molesting charge dropped for Dh157 [about $35]

Dubai: A man might get a reduced jail term after paying Dh157 to a housemaid to waive her molestation charges against him. The 29-year-old Indian driver, S.K., handed the Dubai Court of First Instance a waiver from the 44-year-old Filipina housemaid, identified as A.M. ...
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There's always more to the story than meets the eye, methinks.