I disagree that's not it.
[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2691648]The good vaccines have their benefits in that they lower the chance of sever illness and death. If you get the vaccine that is your choice. That said, the difference in the way the two groups should be treated is maybe have the unvaccinated have a higher insurance coverage than the vaccinated, since they are more likely to spend more time in the hospital. But that is it. By the way I got the J&J vaccine in April 2021. Since it was getting close to the one year mark and some countries consider you unvaccinated if you haven't had a booster after so many months I went ahead and received the Phizer shot as the booster. Ran a fever the first night and was tired a couple of days but was ok after that.[/QUOTE]That said, the difference in the way the two groups should be treated is maybe have the unvaccinated have a higher insurance coverage than the vaccinated, since they are more likely to spend more time in the hospital. But that is it.
The unvaccinated also have a greater chance of getting the virus and anyone getting it (even the break through cases) have a chance to spread it. So they need to be treated as the they are, inconsiderate or stupid, or just uneducated. The exceptions are for medical reasons, I mean exception for not being inconsiderate or stupid, or just uneducated.
Good point but consider this
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The unvaccinated also have a greater chance of getting the virus and anyone getting it (even the break through cases) have a chance to spread it. So they need to be treated as the they are, inconsiderate or stupid, or just uneducated. The exceptions are for medical reasons, I mean exception for not being inconsiderate or stupid, or just uneducated.[/QUOTE]In most cases I would agree with you. But we are talking about Thailand, which is still having 10 to 20 thousand new cases a day. Considering reported cases are only a small percentage of actual cases (lots of asymptomatic cases with omichron), the major concern is not unvaccinated tourist adding to the spread, but the unvaccinated getting sick and ending up in the hospital. Anyone coming to Thailand at this time needs to be aware that the virus is still very active in Thailand. Even the vaccinated is taking a risk. That said, I will be there May 3rd with a bag full of masks looking for a good time. LOL.
It is said that there are exceptions to every rule
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2691880]Except I disagree. That is not it. I may be inconsiderate, stupid, or just uneducated, but I have had experience.
While me and other friends and family members have been stomping all over South and Central America and the Caribbean with no vaccine and no masks and as of late been on planes all around the USA with no vaccine and no mask and have not contracted any virus, I have had other fully vaccinated friends and family members that barely left the house and got the disease. Most said it was the worst 2 weeks of their life although they were not hospitalized.
And what exactly is the treatment for someone that is hospitalized? Last I heard was when they were only sticking tubes down the patients' throats and most of them did not make it home from that anyway.[/QUOTE]So let's hope you and your friends continue to beat the odds, but when the wheel turns to "oo" , let's hope God or if you are here, Buddha has mercy on why'all.
Oh, and the Pfizer pill is a treatment BEFORE you get into a hospital. The pill is Paxlovid:
Pfizer said safety data in the trial was consistent with previous studies, which had shown the pills to be nearly 90% effective at preventing hospitalization or death in COVID patients at high risk of severe illness when taken for five days shortly after symptom onset.
It messes with their lonely guy strategy
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2692426]Yeah it's ridiculous.
I always tell them that I usually only take the same girl once, which is usually true, and might come back for the other girls in bar. If they get a bad attitude I just pay my check bin and move onto another bar.[/QUOTE]I know a few fellow punters whose main strategy for getting BBBF+CIP with the girls is to work on the reality of their general unattractiveness and present themselves as shy losers in the sexual arena at home and abroad, that they just arrived in Thailand, it's been a very long time since they got laid in their home country, not sure how things work around here, gee it would be great and so lucky if they found a beautiful lady like you I could see while I am here, blah blah blah.
The girl might and often does conclude, yep, he is damn unattractive, probably has not had sex with anyone in a long time (therefore little or no chance of having HIV or any other STI) and certainly not with a girl as young and hot as me and if I rock his world in bed like he has likely never experienced I will be his go-to girl throughout his entire stay. Besides, she might conclude, not many other girls would agree to have any kind of sex with this troll much less Real Sex but I am special and can deal with it.
Therefore, his being seen trotting around multiple girls from that and other nearby bars tends to contradict that little scenario strategy. Who knows what the first and subsequent bare back girls will say to everyone else about his "unfortunate but sexually safe" profile once they realize they've been fooled.
Those are the guys I know who are terrified to be seen by previous ladies with other ladies and would never take another girl from the same bar.
The funny part is the guys who can and do get away with presenting themselves that way and have the looks to make it believable get more BBFS+CIP with more new and different girls in two weeks than I do in 6 months! LOL. So any girls who think fucking guys like that is in any way safer for them in terms of risk of disease could not be more wrong.
USA Drops Mandatory COVID Test for Incoming Flyers
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2707186]According to the Washington Post, starting in 34 hours the USA requirement for pre-return COVID testing is eliminated.[/QUOTE]International travelers will no longer need to show proof of a negative coronavirus test before boarding flights to the United States, federal health officials announced Friday, ending one of the nation's last pandemic-related travel requirements.
The requirement will end at 12:01 am (Washington D.C. time) Sunday (June 12).
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said science and data show the requirement is no longer necessary.
"CDC has determined that travelers have access to tools (e. G. , vaccines, therapeutics, and recommended prevention measures) and guidance that allow travelers to make informed choices about the use of pre-departure testing and other prevention measures," the order read.
The agency said it continues to recommend that individuals test before and after travel and after any known exposure to a person with covid-19.
The CDC will reassess the decision in 90 days and would reinstate the requirement if necessary.
