Phnom Penh

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]...I don't think Cambodia is not much poorer country than Vietnam...[/QUOTE] GDP per capita is 55% higher in Vietnam than Cambodia

[QUOTE=Iching]The rumour i heard is that the Cambodian government have restricted the amount of vietnamse woman they let into the country after K11.[/QUOTE]Pretty unlikely. These days it mainly seems like pure economics: they can do as well or better in Vietnam.

Keep in mind that a lot of the Vietnamese girls we used to play with in Cambodia had been there for most of their lives, coming with their parents back when VN was basically running the country in the '80s. They're getting out of the trade and they're not being replaced.

[QUOTE=Mature Man]Planning on a visit coming weekend. Wondering if Walkbout is still functioning in view of the raids mentioned.

Any info and suggestions welcome.[/QUOTE]Still going as usual, IMO girls are nothing to write home about though.

In fact PP is becoming more like Thailand in attitude by the girls, like LT is disappearing at 4:00am, phone calls during the night, poor performances despite yum yum boom boom and 10:00am departure and 3 shots agreed etc. This is unlike a few years back where these things hardly ever happened. Can't even be bothered to take anymore girls out, cheap yes, and it seems you get what you pay for. Plus the so-called hostie bars is another one to watch out for as at many you cannot take the girl out.

I believe after coming here for 18 years that the quality of the girls is not what it used to be. It also is very quite around the mongers areas, Martinis was dead on the 2 nights I went there, girls were very average 4-6 in my book and not so healthy looking.

Shinoukville pretty much the same, on the Victory Hill bar area there were maybe 10 punters for about 100 pretty average looking girls, ie plumply young mother's etc. Better to go to the beach and get high on space pizza's and girls $5 ST, that way6 you're think that they all were good looking!!!.

Anyway back to Bangkok and to get Tagged!

[QUOTE=Thai Ydiver]I believe after coming here for 18 years that the quality of the girls is not what it used to be.[/QUOTE]But it's still better than it was 18 years ago! In my experience the quality peaked around the late 1990s, in the year or two after the coup. It was still OK five years ago, but seems to have gone downhill pretty quickly since then. However it's a better place to find a girlfriend (or two) than it used to be, so all is not lost!

[QUOTE=Betong]But it's still better than it was 18 years ago! In my experience the quality peaked around the late 1990s, in the year or two after the coup. It was still OK five years ago, but seems to have gone downhill pretty quickly since then. However it's a better place to find a girlfriend (or two) than it used to be, so all is not lost![/QUOTE]I still like Cambodia there`s lots more bars that have opened in PP and still a lot cheaper than Thailand. I LOVE PHNOM PENH.

Iching, can you give us a list of your favorite spots and the lowdown on some of the new venues that have opened lately. Would appreciate an insiders opinion.

I'll be catching a bus from Saigon to PP tomorrow, I'm just wondering whats the preferred currency? I have USD, VND and some THB. Should I exchange for local money or workout prices with what I have?

I'll be staying at New York Hotel for 2 nights. Can you get FS in the massage parlour or is it only in your hotel room?

Its my first time travelling to Cambodia, unfortunately my vietnamese wife will be tagging along as she wants to have a look and go shopping. Are there any places to visit (appart from the usual tourist places like temples etc etc) I was thinking about going to the rifle range and go karting and buying local handycrafts. (Yes I know this is a mongering forum, not a damn lonley planet holiday guide) The prices for shooting guns are pretty exp, same price in VN.

I had a good read of this thread and know of some places NOT to bring the wife to.

Hopefully I'll be able to drop her off somewhere and I'll go do some "shopping" on my own.

The police have recently started to crackdown on a numbers of bars and have recently started to check that the girls are "correctly" dressed i.e. wearing a bra and pants. Also a number of bars have been raided to check on the age of the girls.

Well went around a few hostie bar & KTV places near sisowath quay, mainly around 138, 118, 110 and 104 streets. Don't know if any were new but from my last trip there seemed to be a few more.

Just wish that these owners train these girls better as hosties as it really is off putting to be hammered by 6-8 girls all begging for a $3 drink. I normally like to sit around for a few minutes and then pick out the one I like!

Also a few of the bars had 'no drugs' and '"no barfines' signs, it was metioned that the cops are clamping down at the P4P scene. At bar 104 a girl was willing to go but asked for $100 LT which made choke and leave.

[QUOTE=Dragonfly22]Iching, can you give us a list of your favorite spots and the lowdown on some of the new venues that have opened lately. Would appreciate an insiders opinion.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Iching]I still like Cambodia there`s lots more bars that have opened in PP and still a lot cheaper than Thailand. I LOVE PHNOM PENH.[/QUOTE]
How much cheaper than Thailand? Can you give some comparisons?

[QUOTE=Amjeck]How much cheaper than Thailand? Can you give some comparisons?[/QUOTE]

Thailand: You think about how much it costs.

Cambodia: You only think about how much it costs if you're paying too much.


But in terms of development, Thailand is like being in a highly developed society compared to Cambodia, which has about as much organisation as an open sewer. Think about the environment you are comfy with. Cambodia does demand a rather more adventurous spirit, I think.

[Quote=Mik Hcmc] I'll be catching a bus from Saigon to PP tomorrow, I'm just wondering whats the preferred currency? I have USD, VND and some THB. Should I exchange for local money or workout prices with what I have?[/quote]

Just US dollars.

[QUOTE=Amjeck]How much cheaper than Thailand? Can you give some comparisons?[/QUOTE]Hotels, alcohol, barfines about 30-50% cheaper

Girls from $5-$15 ST, $15-25 LT in Thailand about $15-30/50 ST, $30-75 LT, don't forget the barfines $10, in TH $15-30 in Thailand. Quality and service much better though in Thailand IMO!

Have fun, be careful out there!

[QUOTE=Amjeck]How much cheaper than Thailand? Can you give some comparisons? [/QUOTE]Amjeck,

I think the overall cost PP vs BKK is about 40% cheaper here, but this is a third world country with not a lot to do in the day time, if you included visa cost and expensive air fare to get here not such a big bargin , I think you should give it a try but PP is not for everyone, I been to PP twice no sure if I will come back here again.

Fast Eddie 48

Thanks for that Christopherd.

I'm in Newyork hotel atm. The wifi is a bit dodgey, I can connect but get problems getting onto the net and my messengers not connecting.

This morning I got the net working.

I took a massage upstairs 7th floor. The massuests look like they are left with no place left to go. All washed up looking. I took one gal about a 4/10. got a massage but she kept pestering me for boom boom. she wanted usd$50 for 2 shots!

I told her I can go to riverside or pick up a girl for usd$15 st who is much younger, better body and looking than you. She still wanted $50. She was very annoying about it but lucky it was a decent massage.

For those living in PP or visiting for awhile. What's the current cost of a mototaxi ride these days. I mean what the locals pay and not what they try to milk the tourist prices.
Last time I was in PP , it was 2000r for a short ride during the day and 3000-4000r for longer rides and at nite.
Thanks

Shark