Are we going to the same club?
[QUOTE=James006;2964259]I had 4 nights in Tijuana and booked a room as recommended at the Cascada hotel.
When I booked the room I got an email confirming my request, but not a direct confirmation that I had been given a room.
I still got a room even though it was actually fully booked upon arrival. Is it common to get a formal confirmation that you have been given a room? Not only the standard response that I got?
I had an incredibly good experience over the weekend, but Monday and Tuesday were nowhere near as fun. Half the place was closed and there were a lot fewer ladies.
I agree that the girls who work during the day are often better on weekdays.
I never found any girls I liked in Chicago or Tropicana.
I can't stand American throwing dollars at strippers. What's the point of this? They look like the girls think they are cool. Like a stupid hip hop video. It doesn't even look like the girls really think it's that cool.
The hottest ladies charge at least $150, and I had to go up to $200 sometimes with no chance of negotiating the price down.
And no one agreed to a BJ without a condom and no one agreed to kissing. The slightly more tired ladies kissed at the bar, but not the young, nicest ladies.
I also think some of the people working at the hotel at the reception are not very friendly!
A local tipped me off about Deja Vu, a big club a few kilometers towards the border. Great premises, but few and no hot ladies. Wasted!
In the quite big street with Burger King and Domino Pizza, I tried both massage parlors. For only $25-30 I got a good traditional massage in both places. No erotic, but good!
Sone years ago there was a strip club on this street where I had some of my best experiences. The club was about halfway up the street, across from Burger King and into a small corridor and down into a basement with a big stage and rooms for hanky panky. There was a super hot girl named Speransa. Does anyone remember the place and know if the club just moved and if Esperansa is still active somewhere? She has deactivated Facebook and previous phone number.
Up the same street there was also a erotic masage saloon on a corner with hot girls. I could not find it. Permanently gone?
I was very happy with my Tijuana reunion and besides the best FKK clubs in Germany, HK is still a great experience. I can live with covered BJ and the girls not kissing, but is there anything else of the same quality other places?
I had a solid downfall in Mexico City where none of the escort girls had matching pictures and street hookers are a bigger risk and only the girls in Sulivan street will join you to your hotel. The other places the girls have their own hotels and the locals warn about the risks of using the girls' rooms.
I would like to experience more such sexy places like HK and would appreciate suggestions for my next trip. Thanks for help with my Tijuana comeback experience![/QUOTE]Not sure what you mean by "I had to go up to $200 sometimes with no chance of negotiating the price down"? And then you went to the room with standard service and no kissing? In other words, you got fleeced. I understand that the shark infested waters are tough to navigate when you're not a regular, and maybe the money isn't much of a concern to you, but I can assure you there is better value to be had. You still need to have a little bit of game when you go there. It's actually kind of difficult to simply "buy" yourself a good experience. The best experiences often times do not correlate with the money spent.
A few pointers for good "game":
1) Be attractive to the women. Even if you aren't the best looking guy you can still dress well and stay in shape. No one want's to be with an unkempt disgusting blob.
2) Project power and confidence. This is what the girls respect. They will respect you more if you stand up for yourself like a man. If you lack confidence or are too nice the sharks will start circling.
3) Learn to negotiate. Sometimes the best negotiation is no negotiation. The more you are asking, "what is the price for this and that", the more transactional it seems, and the girls will start to worry that you can't afford it which makes you seem lower status.
4) A little Spanish doesn't hurt. Again this is tough if you're not a regular, and it's not really a prerequisite (I enjoyed this place for a long time without knowing any Spanish) it does allow the girls to get to know you a little better and feel more at ease with you.
5) Learn to avoid sharks. Again, not easy but you can learn to recognize the signs. Sometimes it's better to avoid the girls that look like "trophy chics" and go for the ones that are a little less self assured and humble. There are actually some incredible looking chics that fall into the later category. If you absolutely need a trophy to add to your shelf, so to speak, you must be resigned to the fact that you may also have to deal with the trophy chic attitude.
Take my last session, for example: This was about 4 am on Monday. I found a new girl sitting by herself at the bar seats by the main stage. I go up to her and invite her for a drink. We go upstairs to the tables that overlook the main stage. The club was relatively empty at this time, with almost no one else in the upper area. Even though the selection is less, your'e chances of getting a slam dunk session go up dramatically if you avoid the prime-time hours. This girl was pretty cute: like a girl next door type with a slender natural body. She told me she was eighteen and I had no reason to doubt her. She kept wanting to use her translator even when I assured her that I understood what she was saying and was speaking to her in Spanish–but she finally caught on. She apparently has had a bit of a hard life in Tijuana, or so she said, which put a bit of a downer on the conversation. I figured I could ease her pain by fucking her brains out. She was also a little bit standoffish as we were talking, so I was kind of on the fence as to whether to take her to the room. I decided, at one point, to just lean in and kiss her to see how she would react. Bingo. We were making out like crazy which confirmed that a room visit would be forthcoming.
The vip room discount on Monday and Tuesday as basically the only time you are not being ripped off for the room. It's actually a pretty good deal. We went to my room at Rizo. I like Rizo because I feel like I am being watched by big brother at Cascadas. Rizo, on the other hand, is more like little brother. We get to the room and we are still kissing. At one point she asks if I want to use a condom and I'm like "no". After that it was pretty much unrestricted girlfriend sex, if you know what I mean. We finished and she was like, let's cuddle on the bed for a bit. So we did just that and within about 5 minutes she was asleep. We lay there for what had to be 30-40 minutes and nobody called or came knocking, so I finally had to wake her up. I told her I had to head out because I had things to do in the afternoon. I left $160 on the table, which in my mind includes a generous tip for being a cool girl and giving me GFE. There had been no discussion of money up until this point. We leave the room and I walk her back to HK, and with a kiss on the cheek, we part ways.
This is not a one off thing either. I get these type of sessions more often than not. The key, I think, is to project yourself as someone who is actually desirable to be with, not just someone looking to trade sex for money. This won't work for everyone, of course, because some guys are simply not desirable, for whatever reason. However, you can always improve yourself to some extent. Myself, Iv'e always been pretty popular with women in latin america, who seem to view me as something of a rare commodity. This kind of "exotic factor" doesn't carry over to the US, of course, which is why I greatly prefer latin america. HK and latin america in general is like the gift that keeps on giving.
My personal pricing guidelines.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2964292]Well I get that type of service for $100.00 No need to advise others to pay $160 for a 30 minute sessions. Which it seems you had, with the rest time spent sleeping.[/QUOTE]Hi Zenduka,
To each his own, but here are my pricing guidelines. Keep in mind, these are the prices I will pay without having negotiated with the girl beforehand. I think I've mentioned before that I don't like to haggle with the girls over the prices because, for me, it kills the vibe. I may also be willing to pay a slight premium just for not having to haggle. I'm not in the position where I need to count every penny, and my objective is not necessarily to minimize the cost, but instead, to maximize the experience to cost ratio.
Unsatisfactory session: $100.
If you do the session with the girl, you really can't get away with paying less than 100. I mean you potentially can. But it's not worth the hassle. The girls expect at least 100 nowadays and to give less will make them upset and cause problems, not to mention making you look cheap. That being said, there are a few times where we've gotten to the room and I felt something wasn't right, so I've sent them away with like $20. This was before we had done anything, of course.
Standard session with no extras: $120.
If the girl at least tried and was nice but offered no extras this is what I will pay. I consider this the standard rate with no tip. Also, I typically won't repeat with these type of girls.
Session with extras: $140 and up.
If she gives you extra services, spends more time, etc. Then I like to tip. I think there is a sweet spot where you are being generous but not overly generous. Like, I wouldn't give a girl $300 under any circumstances, because it starts to look like you are compensating for something.
Of course, drinks add to the total above, as does the room price. But, all in all, we are down there banging young hot chics for what is not significantly more than the price of dinner drinks and a movie. It's a pretty good deal, any way you look at it.
