Sao Paulo Reports

Great report and lots of good information. I went to Montreal and it was a pretty awful experience. I do not understand how it could be good because you can't see the girl beforehand so there is no chemistry. My first girl was good looking only spoke french (good), next girl was mid and wouldn't let me do any position but missionary and was super restrictive (AWFUL, top 3 worst experience EVER) and the last girl was UGLY. This was from a reputable agency too. My golden rule now is only go with girls you can see in person so Frankfurt FKK and soon Scandallo / boates. I'll report back my experiences.

Also I am very surprised at your bad experience with girls with bad bodies or weird skin. I would have thought Scandallo would have better quality control. Guess its more hit than miss but can still miss a bit.

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3027900]Just got back from a short trip to Scandallo. This was my 2nd visit to Brazil. And it's becoming my favorite go to place for hobbying.

Side rant, Montreal used to be my favorite spot for hot white Quebecoise girls a couple years back but it has gone so much downhill since. Initially I wasn't planning to go to Brazil, but instead wanted to go to Montreal, shorter flight, easier on my body and decent quality of girls but looking at the recent experiences, I swapped it out for Brazil even though it's a 13 HR flight. Looking at the girls before having sex is so much worth it, instead of relying on face blurred pics on an escort agency website. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3027900]Glad Scandallo is still better than most other options available worldwide. I want to get my fill of it and enjoy this while it lasts. The only downside is the 12 HR flight breaking my back, but anything worth having needs some sacrifice. After visiting Scandallo, the things I used to enjoy earlier are no longer pleasurable, escort outcall in Lisbon, no please, escort outcall in Athens nope, Montreal quebecoise incall agency too tough to book highly competitive and even the locals are not able to get it on with beautiful popular girls, and the rest of the girls are ugly. Nothing much left to do in my world mongering career than to split my time between Sao Paulo and Frankfurt. Will write another report on my next visit to Scandallo.[/QUOTE]I've settled for years where you have now. If it's not Brazil, then it's Germany. And vice versa. Headed to FKKLand very, very soon. Hope to bring back my new "spot reports" style I used last time I was in Brazil. Looking forward to more from you and reports on fucking all those attractive Brazilian brancas. That's what I'm talking about! But you need to give those pretty morenas some love too bro! LMAO! Yes sir!

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3027900]Just got back from a short trip to Scandallo. This was my 2nd visit to Brazil. And it's becoming my favorite go to place for hobbying.[/QUOTE]Nice report, OkSwimmer. I have a feeling you are going to soon forget about Frankfurt 😉.

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The problem I find with Scandallo is that the 1 HR rooms are too long a time. Coming from the FKK system, I'm naturally used to half hour session and comfortable with that length of time. I could very well get 7-8 rooms on a good day at the FKK but in Scandallo, I'm exhausted after my first room.
[/QUOTE]I used to visit Germany and other European countries few times a year until I visited Brazil in 2019. Since then, almost all my trips are to Brazil. I don't miss FKKs especially the German ones. Only FKK club I consider worth visiting, if I happen to be in Europe, is Globe in Zurich.

I was also used to 30 minutes at FKKs but filling an hour or more is not a problem for me. I just spend a good chunk of that hour kissing, DATY, BJ and other activities before getting to fucking.

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Side rant, Montreal used to be my favorite spot for hot white Quebecoise girls a couple years back but it has gone so much downhill since. [/QUOTE]I used to visit before pandemic, but I don't care to visit anymore because of the reason you mentioned, and it is difficult to book popular girls especially when you are there for few days. Why fight over very few popular girls when 100+ or 200+ girls waiting for you at Scandallo?

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Day time mongering option, decided to try something new. Abbobora. It was 3 pm in the afternoon, arrived at the location, was confused where to enter. I picked up the phone and spoke Portuguese, than saw another man behind me enter the door on the right, so I followed him. The lady at the reception spoke Portuguese only but hey how difficult can mongering be.

Sat on the couch on front of the door and one by one girls started coming out like it was a magic door. Each of them side kissed me on the cheek and said Tudo Bem, Olivia, Prazzer, their name. And went around the room kissing every guy, with me was a very good looking young man, full on Chad and an older asian guy. The women were a bit rundown not top quality but you get what you pay for it's only 400 BRLs for 1 hour. I was about to give up and leave, while I found Maiyara. Decided to go with her. The rooms of this clinicas are quite nice, not as good as Scandallo but nothing is. The girl gave a great BBBJ and it was fun to see it in the mirror, fucked a bit but felt disgusted, because her pussy lips were not well done and she looked very high mileage. Took an early shower and left before time. Looked at the presentation one more time, a few more prazzers and then the mamasan was like that's it and it's time to go and opened the door for me. I felt they kicked me out, while the Chad waited for an hour and still was hanging in the reception. I guess perks of being a foreigner non-porto that I get shown the door. [/QUOTE]Most of the girls who work there are either high mileage or with kids and that is one reason I stopped visiting it. Another big reason is that sour faced bi*ch in reception. She is all smiles when you choose a girl, but when you don't, she becomes a mean bi*ch with turd face. She behaves like that only with gringos and few other members have reported about it. I can't believe she didn't have little courtesy to let you stay a while considering you already went with a girl. That says it all about her.

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I did find a prepaid TIM chip sim from a newsstand, 30 BRLs, 20 days, 11 GB unlimited whatsapp. No CPF, no contracts, just insert the chip dial 144 option 3 option3 connect to English speaking operator, provide fake name, fake passport and fake address and voila you're connected to Brazil.
[/QUOTE]What data speeds did you get? Did you experience any signal issues especially when you are in Scandallo?

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Bradesco bank closes at 4 pm, so get your cash early in the day.
[/QUOTE]There are bank locations where you have access to ATMs even after the bank is closed. I withdrew money few times even after midnight at a location close to Mercure Times Square hotel in Moema.

I don't like this club, but I had to visit it once during my trip last month because an overly enthusiastic friend wanted to see it.

This club is very small, smaller than Scandallo restaurant. A $400 entry fee is too much for this place which typically has 30-50 people.

My previous visits were alone, so I didn't notice this. This time, my friend and I bought a bottle of gin and some mixers. I expected the girls to drink that, but all the girls we spoke with requested a different drink. I noticed all the girls at other tables ordered different drinks instead of drinking what the men already had on their tables. For example, a girl would order wine when you had a gin bottle on the table, and might order gin at another table when they had wine on their table. I think the management pushes the girls to not consume what's on the customer's table and instead order something else. This is another deceptive tactic this club uses to maximize consumption. On top of all this, they pressure you for more tips even though they've already added a 10% service charge. There is none of this shit at Scandallo or even at a low-end boete like Casarao.

Anyway, I ended up going with a 23 yo Ana for $R800. Room fee was $R210. In the room I noticed the cloth hangers are on a wall that is completely out of sight from shower or bathroom. Also, both shower and bathroom have frosted doors that are not see-through, so it is very easy for the girls to steal money from your wallet when you are in shower. Luckily, Ana was an honest girl and provided a great service.

Indriver is a good alternative. Thanks.

[QUOTE=IndecentPro;3027695]Thought I'd share another tip. In addition to the fluidity of pricing that you see for the same girls (I've seen dozens of these examples), another thing I'll share is that InDriver is a great alternative to Uber. It is especially good for longer distance journeys or city to city. If you're taking an Uber from GRU in to Moema, I'm getting 120 reals for regular Uber and close to 200 for Uber Black. As an alternative, InDriver is giving me offers for 70 - 90. This is paid in cash so that may be a consideration. But locals can also pay with pix I believe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3028087]I don't like this club, but I had to visit it once during my trip last month because an overly enthusiastic friend wanted to see it.

This club is very small, smaller than Scandallo restaurant. A $400 entry fee is too much for this place which typically has 30-50 people.

My previous visits were alone, so I didn't notice this. This time, my friend and I bought a bottle of gin and some mixers. I expected the girls to drink that, but all the girls we spoke with requested a different drink. I noticed all the girls at other tables ordered different drinks instead of drinking what the men already had on their tables. For example, a girl would order wine when you had a gin bottle on the table, and might order gin at another table when they had wine on their table. I think the management pushes the girls to not consume what's on the customer's table and instead order something else. This is another deceptive tactic this club uses to maximize consumption. On top of all this, they pressure you for more tips even though they've already added a 10% service charge. There is none of this shit at Scandallo or even at a low-end boete like Casarao.

Anyway, I ended up going with a 23 yo Ana for $R800..[/QUOTE]I was at a different club in another Brazilian city, and what the girls told me is that they were strictly forbidden from drinking whatever the customers are drinking, but instead have to order separate. Obviously to keep the money flowing. I'm sure it's the same thing going on at Bomboa that you noticed. And I don't like it either. One of the things I like about Brazil is that, generally speaking, you don't have any of the "buy me a drink" bullshit you find in other countries.

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Abbobora .

Most of the girls who work there are either high mileage or with kids and that is one reason I stopped visiting it. Another big reason is that sour faced bi*ch in reception. She is all smiles when you choose a girl, but when you don't, she becomes a mean bi*ch with turd face. She behaves like that only with gringos and few other members have reported about it. I can't believe she didn't have little courtesy to let you stay a while considering you already went with a girl. That says it all about her..[/QUOTE]I agree. The one with glasses is a complete b*tch. My last trip a few days ago she forced me out into the pouring rain. Wouldn't let me wait for my Uber inside. What an absolute c*nt. I'm going to do a review on Google Maps.

Miruna and the clinicas around there have grown rapidly. Kamila Werneck, the real one, was apparently wifed up by the owner of a clinica, and given her own casa around the corner from Miruna to manage. The prices quoted (330 r 1 h) have gone up a little in 5-7 years, but the other clinicas in Moema, especially the lower tier once near the metro should be regularly scanned. Those were the late, great ABG's go to, along with that awesome all you can eat sushi place in Japan town near bela vista where ABG would always go with the ISG member he was taking around SP.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/XxM7AxeHfWgg1vrh8[/URL]

Tako Sushi! I guess Vagabundo's memory aid for that is a Mexican food / sushi combination name.

Luum, a all you can eat sushi place is just down the street from Perola Negra at Ave de Pepe 600. Another place on the list of dining / sex spots.

[QUOTE=IndecentPro;3027694]Wanted to share an item I've noticed. There's definitely some overlap in ownership structure or just informal relationships between girls and clinicas which can lead to great deals. For example, yesterday Hanna and Naiara were both working at Sigh Spa with 650 being the going rate each for 1 HR if paid in cash and 685 if paid with card. But today those garotas are at Miruna. The going rate for each of them is 330 HR or 240 for half hour. While I'm not saying Scandallo girls will be in the lower tier clinicas. It seems like there is a lot of fluidity for where they work. Sometimes this can lead to pice discounts of 50% on posted rates from day to day for the same girl.[/QUOTE]

At the opening of new Luminia Spa I did a fantastic hour session with (Kaori or Tokio in 57 friends) and a newbie twenty-year-old morena fresh to the biz. Promotion.

Discounts on threesomes. Luminia is run by the same 57 friends team. The rooms are much better more modern and clean, an upgrade compared to 57 Friends. As a recently opened spot in Moema, the Forista discount and promotion was in full effect. The bar area and sofa lobby are brand spanking new. Good receptionist as well.

Afterward the session. Walked over to Enjoy Spa to see the team under new management. Nothing really changed. There is a mature blonde Slavic looking garota that can Deep throat until your toes curl. Down she goes. She impales her throat on the dick, leaves it there, no gag reflex a damn pro, looks up with her green eyes and flowing blonde hair. Greedy of anticipation. I had to repeat two and three hour session before writing a gpguia review.

Yes receptionist at Abbobara is terrible write a review on GPGuia. The management team reads those reviews. Abbobara in general has lost its hot line-up of Barbie blondes.

Two relaxing hangout spots you are welcome to drink, talk with the garotas is 57 friends, Tangara and Espaço Vergueiro. Oh that's three kkk.

It's fvcking amazing to see new clinicas pop up in Moema every week. With those swingy clubs in Moema, Hotbar, Ashe Engima and dozens and dozens of clinicas seem like a easy walking neighborhood.

Did you end up paying the tip and how much if you did? I don't plan on bringing tipping culture to Brazil but I still want to check out this place because total cost with girl seems to be cheaper than Scandallo. I assume I will find something to my liking here at least for one night.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3028087]On top of all this, they pressure you for more tips even though they've already added a 10% service charge.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3028087]I don't like this club, but I had to visit it once during my trip last month because an overly enthusiastic friend wanted to see it.

This club is very small, smaller than Scandallo restaurant. A $400 entry fee is too much for this place which typically has 30-50 people.

My previous visits were alone, so I didn't notice this. This time, my friend and I bought a bottle of gin and some mixers. I expected the girls to drink that, but all the girls we spoke with requested a different drink. I noticed all the girls at other tables ordered different drinks instead of drinking what the men already had on their tables. For example, a girl would order wine when you had a gin bottle on the table and might order gin at another table when they had wine on their table. I think the management pushes the girls to not consume what's on the customer's table and instead order something else. This is another deceptive tactic this club uses to maximize consumption. On top of all this, they pressure you for more tips even though they've already added a 10% service charge. There is none of this shit at Scandallo or even at a low-end boete like Casarao. [/QUOTE]I will grant you that Bomboa is definitely not Scandallo, but I am surprised you don't like the club because I do. First off, Scandallo is a huge nightclub with live entertainment and a restaurant. Bomboa is kind of like an intimate supper club with live entertainment. They are not in the same league.

2nd, I like Bomboa girls even though Scandallo has at least 4 x as many girls which includes a much larger number of what I would consider attractive and doable girls. In statistical terms the mean or average of Scandallo girl's physical looks is to the right of the mean of Bomboa girl's physical looks. Witch translates into Scan has a higher percentage and a larger number of doable, good-looking girls than Bomboa, but that does not mean there are not some very attractive Bomboa girls to hook up with. There are and I have met a lot of nice girls in Bomboa, many of whom I concede I probably would not have hooked up with if I saw them in Scandallo, but I have also met a few really great Bomboa girls who could definitely hold their own against most Scandallo girls and who I would have chosen if I saw them in Scandallo. Thus, whenever I go to Bomboa, I set my sites a little lower than I do when I go to Scandallo, play the odds, and with a little luck I find what I am looking for and once in a while a find a star; a Scandallo quality tier 1 girl.

Bomboa girls are also very nice and appear to be more down-to-earth, probably a little older and more needy. I have never been robbed and honestly I would be stunned if it happened to me because I know the amount of cash I have in my pocket when I go upstairs and I always pay after, so if some girl were dumb enough to try to steal from me, I would know it and believe me I would make a ruckus and she would get banned from the club. I just can't see it happening in Bomboa.

So, in summary I like Bomboa for variety, a different club experience, the neighborly friendly vibe and good girls. I usually stay in SP between 3 to 6 weeks per visit, so I usually like / want to mix things up a little.

I have met a few great girls here (good looking and great in bed) as I stated above and in a recent post of mine concerning "true 3-ways" (bisexual 3-ways). My 2 favorite Bomboa girls are lookers, and they would definitely ask and receive more money from their customers if they worked in Scan. My guess is these 2 prefer being big fish in a small pond rather than small fish in the ocean. KKK.

Everybody knows my name in Bomboa vs only a few know me by name in Scandallo. Now maybe that is my fault, but that is how it is. A smaller, more intimate place is more intimate. The main waiter (Marco), for example, knows me, knows where I like to sit and what I like to drink and when. He takes really good care of me. One time he helped me out when I aborted a session with a girl over BBBJ nonperformance. I was not charged for the room, or the girl and the girl was told to go in no uncertain terms to go the other side of the bar.

Marco never hit me up for a tip ever. And I am one of those guys who do not want to pollute the no tipping culture of SP bordellos, but I have given Marco tips on my last nights in Bomboa for overall exemplary trip service. For example, on one of my 6-week trips back in 2022, I must have gone to Bomboa at least 8 times and so I gave him 200 BR as I was leaving the bordell ofor the last time that trip and he acted like he appreciated it. He is a standup guy and he understands his job.

Then around 2 years ago Marco passed me on to one of his subordinate waiters and this guy constantly asked for tips. He became really annoying and I did not like it one bit. I posted a report about that waiter at the time. Anyway, I never tipped the guy because the first night he had his hand out, I told him that if he took good care of me and never bothered me for a tip again, I would take care of him on my last night in town. But he never stopped hitting me up for a tip and he never really did anything of value for me, so I gave him nothing and when I returned to Bomboa, on my next trip, I told Marco I wanted him to be my waiter. End of story.

The bottom line is I like Bomboa although I like Scandallo more. I think most punters would agree. But on some of my trips including my most recent one, I have stayed at a hotel 2 1/2 blocks away. It is hard not to go there when you can see the bordello across the street and a little down the road from your hotel balcony and everybody there knows your name.

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Side question. What restaurants do you guys recommend?

Please recommend me other things to do in the off time in Sao Paulo and good restaurants. I get bored a lot there LOL. [/QUOTE]Restaurant recommendations can be found on the, Brazilian Gastronomy tread [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4379-Brazilian-Gastronomy[/URL].
I encourage everyone to post Restaurant recommendations / reviews in this section.

Off time suggestions:
1.Attend Sporting events, Musical events
2. Shopping
3. Get a table at a good outside or mall restaurant and people watch
4. Tours - Tourist attractions
5. Sleep
6. [URL] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPSVCVFgZng[/URL]
7. [URL]https://youtu.be/Z6lFfHURPXc?si=kys9DE5MVmP4kwcZ[/URL]
8. YouTube videos provide some suggestions.
9. Trip Advisor has suggestions
10.Find a mall or significant attraction in every major neighborhood to visit.
11. Cultural events, museums, Movie Theater,
12. Get one of your Favorites to show you the city

Thanks for the clinica update. I will have to check out Lumina Spa.

[QUOTE=Tochka;3028272]At the opening of new Luminia Spa I did a fantastic hour session with (Kaori or Tokio in 57 friends) and a newbie twenty-year-old morena fresh to the biz. Promotion.

Discounts on threesomes. Luminia is run by the same 57 friends team. The rooms are much better more modern and clean, an upgrade compared to 57 Friends. As a recently opened spot in Moema, the Forista discount and promotion was in full effect. The bar area and sofa lobby are brand spanking new. Good receptionist as well.

Two relaxing hangout spots you are welcome to drink, talk with the garotas is 57 friends, Tangara and Espao Vergueiro. Oh that's three kkk.

It's fvcking amazing to see new clinicas pop up in Moema every week. With those swingy clubs in Moema, Hotbar, Ashe Engima and dozens and dozens of clinicas seem like a easy walking neighborhood.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=UniversalX;3028333]Restaurant recommendations can be found on the, Brazilian Gastronomy tread [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4379-Brazilian-Gastronomy[/URL].
I encourage everyone to post Restaurant recommendations / reviews in this section. [/QUOTE]I agree. Restaurant recommendations should be posted in Brazilian Gastronomy thread. Anyway, here is a short list of my favorite things to do in SP when I am not mongering:

1. Walking about various neighborhoods and parks.

2. Eating great food.

3. Hanging out by my hotel swimming pool.

[QUOTE=EyesWide;3028276]Did you end up paying the tip and how much if you did? I don't plan on bringing tipping culture to Brazil but I still want to check out this place because total cost with girl seems to be cheaper than Scandallo. I assume I will find something to my liking here at least for one night.[/QUOTE]Yes, $R40 to round it up.

I have no plans to visit this club again (which is why I took the unfinished bottle with me when I left the club), considering all their shady business practices. Yes, girls at Scan may cost a couple of hundred reals more and the rooms are a bit more expensive, but Scan has much more choice, and the rooms are bigger and nicer. If you buy a bottle at Scan like I do even when I visit alone, the drinks are going to be cheaper because you can ask the girls to drink from the bottle you already have and not buy separate drinks, like you have to at Bamboa.