Jakarta

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2992127]And what about kota indah fishbowls? Those you have to choose one right out of the tank right?[/QUOTE]You are allowed to talk to the girls after you pull them out of the fishbowl at Starmoon. In fact, the mamasan leaves you alone with the girl to do so. After that works the same way as Classic, Travel, etc. The girl will sit there and talk to you but be courteous to the girl and send her back in a couple of minutes if you don't plan on taking her.

Girls don't care about lady drinks like they do in Thailand. It's not a source of income for them. I never buy a lady drink in Jakarta unless it's for a girl I already know. You can tell in seconds if a Jakarta girl wants to go with you or not. It's not fake like Thailand where they all pretend to love you and want you to father their next child.

[QUOTE=JennyKk;2992249]If you are looking for lower volume, you need to check out high-end place. Royal is in KI. It is a high volume place afaik.[/QUOTE]

There are 2 Royal in KI. Royal VIP is high end and not busy, at least as of Summer 2024. Royal is a normal bar and busy.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2992127]Well I don't get it. You weed them out by buying that lady drink, not a shot, right? Who would pick / choose them right off the sofa? So you buy them a ladies drink. Are these girls drink guzzlers?

They seem to guzzle the shots right? And how long does mamasan allow her girl to sit with you? Seems there is not much time? You need to start rattlin off your desires rather quickly huh?

Swingin the bat in todays brothels is unfortunately all too common, but ID rather swing the bat with ladies drinks / interviews then swingin the bat with 365 $$.

And what about kota indah fishbowls? Those you have to choose one right out of the tank right?[/QUOTE]I don't buy them any drinks. I just talk to them and try to read their body language. I don't rattle off all my desires either. I just kind of go with the flow and try to feel the vibe. I usually will ask if they do pijit since I like massages too but I don't usually bring up condom talk until in the room.

This is for the newbies that are thinking about going to Jakarta. I'm going to give you the real impressions of the place from a guy that likes high quality living and high quality women. This is not from the perspective of a cheap charlie. When I go on a trip I expect to live like a king. I read the stories of some guys scraping up a few pennies to come here and live like a peasant, no thanks, that's not for me.

Airport.

First thing after getting off the plane, I bought the visa on arrival, I think it was equivalent to $30 USD. Passport check was easy, I went to the agent, she looked at my passport and said next time go through the machines and just scan and go. Ok cool will do.

All this talk about ATM's and low withdrawals. There are 3 ATM's before / after customs can't remember. The first machine is an HSBC and the other 2 are major Indonesian banks. The machines have a 3 mil IDR limit. Very easy to get all the cash you need from these machines. I did 4 transactions and took a total of $12 mil. No headache no hassle. Easy.

Customs, you have to scan one of the QR code signs hanging up everywhere, answer a few questions and then get your personal QR code to show the customs agent. Got a SIM card from the people waving signs at you after you exit. There are like 5 booths, I picked the one that had the most people buying. Talk, text, data was like $20 USD. I took Golden bird subsidiary of Blue Bird they have new, bigger, nice vehicles. The car was a new electric vehicle, I think it was like 380 k IDR or so.

1st Hotel. Movenpick.

This place was highly recommended on this forum as the nicest place to stay if you want to be close to the action. Check in was smooth, there is a lot to like about the place. The Good, everything is pretty much new! I ate at every restaurant multiple times (brought guests) great food. Fantastic gym, high end equipment. Decent pool. Very easy to bring as many female guests as you want. The reception is on the 2nd floor around the corner from the elevators. It's perfect. The only person who can see who you are bringing back is the bellhop. Nobody in your business or asking any questions.

The Bad, after about week I realized the location although close to action actually sucks and the rooms are just too small.

Classic:

This is only my opinion so for the gents who worship Classic, I don't want to hurt your feelings.

Honestly this place reminds me of an abandoned mall. The very dim lighting, random mongers walking around aimlessly, it's creepy as shit! Once you take a few escalators up to terminal 2 it doesn't really get any better. You check-in get your wrist band and you walk into this big room with sofa seating wrapping around the edges. You will be immediately approached by many mamasons. Like its so funny, you didn't even have a chance to look at any girls yet and mama is asking what girl do you like! You just have to not pay them any attention (I say, I need a drink, give me sometime to relax) and just go grab an open seat. When sitting there scoping out the room every time I went a lot of the girls had this awful dry terrible cough. I tried my best not to pick them even if they were cute.

It will be a constant battle with these mamasons, especially if it's early evening and things are a little slow. Usually it takes me a good 20 minutes or so to find a girl I like. I then flag a mama and if it's not a girl from her stable she will huff and puff but will eventually signal the girl you want down with a green laser.

I then hand the mama of the girl 400 k IDR she goes and fills out some paperwork and brings back change. I usually let mama keep the change and that makes her very happy. The lighting is purposefully very dark you really never know what you are picking until you are in that shitty roach infested room and you turn on all the lights. Then it will be revealed, what you thought you were getting is not exactly what you got! I think another member mentioned this in his reports. There is always something that reveals itself in the light. Bad teeth, too many layers of makeup, bad skin, face not as cute, etc.

Once in the room while you are getting acquainted with your lady you will be met with all sorts of interesting things, from bad breath, fishy vagina odor, dirty feet, a little bit of body odor. Yes even though they just took a shower in front of you. Very strange. I guess this is to be expected at this price point. It's basically free sex. Every Tom, Dick and Harry coming here from across the world BB'ing and dumping loads in these girls. I'm still scratching my head about the pricing. Every encounter is pretty much free. It's just a matter of can you find anything worth taking back to the room.

I tipped all girls that provided great service 500 k, girls who really worked hard but couldn't bring me to climax (because I just wasn't attracted to them when the lights came on) 300 k. And I even tipped the smelly girls $200 k, even though I cut those sessions short.

I can already hear the screams. Why are you destroying the market. Haha. I tip all the ladies because they have terrible lives and a terrible job and if some cash can bring a little joy into their lives than so be it. Please be nice to them. From my experience, they all were very sweet and really tried hard to give a good experience. More to come on just how popular I became here!

That brings me to my next point. I always felt dirty leaving the place. Like I needed one of those radiation containment showers. Popular girls are getting picked 5 to 10 times a day. A popular girl, even if she has only been there a month has an unbelievable amount of mileage on her already. To me it's a bit disgusting. So after my 4th or 5th visit (I was done with the place). On to greener pastures.

Next report will be a detailed review of all the girls I can remember, especially the ones who spent their days off with me! Plus adventures at the higher end venues as well as meeting a few girls from seeking! I met a lot of incredible girls from all over the place, they really made the trip great!

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;2992217]Hi all.

I've read the last 20+ pages of the forum and all reports seem to be of Classic, Emporium, 1001. I have definitely learnt a lot about those establishments, thank you!

Are there options for girls who aren't being hammered and cream pied 10 times a day? Girls who see one or two clients a day and charge higher rates accordingly.

I suppose I'm asking are there any clubs / bars that have a decent selection of FLs that I can LT. I've heard Royal mentioned a few times across different forums but details were scarce.

I'm not interested in trying to pull civilians, too old for that and won't have the time LOL.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

then you are gonna have to go the FL/SA route
or go to malio and pick up a dancer, which is waaaayyy overpriced
i believe its close to 4M for a short time
but will likely not have many if any customers

[QUOTE=SeaTraveler;2992236]BATS & CJ'S.

I prefer CJ's, but have had good luck at both.

I was there quite a bit a year ago (Dec to March 2024).

I paid 1. 5 to 2 juta.

There have been no recent posts on either & I'm not sure why.

Good Luck.[/QUOTE]Thank you. Yes, have read about CJs and BATs but only people mentioning the name but not actual experience ie quality and quantity of ladies and cost. Your feedback was very helpful on price, can you give any further details on the quality and quantity? Are they more likely to speak some English as compared to Classic etc?

Thank you.

[QUOTE=JennyKk;2992249]If you are looking for lower volume, you need to check out high-end place. Royal is in KI. It is a high volume place afaik.

CJ probably is your best shot where you can find some FL who have a normal job during daytime. But I know some spa girls will go there to make some extra money. So you need to figure out yourself.

I went there few months ago. It was very good. 2 juta for LT. Laid back and good music.

And if you meet a girl who was fucked 10 x a day, it is not bad at all. It means she is very popular, either she has a 10 look or she gives the top-tier service.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback, appreciated.

I hear you about the girl who fucks 10 times a day, I might agree if BB wasn't so common out there. But because I have a thing for DFK and DATY I'd rather do that on a girl who has one or two clients a day a few times a week vs ten clients six times a week.

[QUOTE=HungMan1808;2967592]Damn it, it's taken years to get outsiders to only venture to Classic, Travel and Emporium and not even consider going elsewhere. Heck, we even had to wait years till Lokasari and surrounds had all the fun places die off leaving just the 'street scene'. And just about everyone has forgotten about Stadium. Ok well not everyone, but you get the point.

Keep this up and they might venture away from Mangga Besar and Pasa Baru areas.[/QUOTE]Pasar baru? Google mapped it. Its east of monas (the statue) Is there anything special about pasar baru district? I seem to be missing something here. Sorry goin back a bit here in this thread.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2990700]I'm 21 pages into this and feel like I have a good image of 1001, malio, travel, classic, emporium. But is that it? Is that the only game in town? At 100 $ us dollars.

No one on motorbike down jalan tubagus angke onto daan mogot and checking things out reporting back. No one venturing into tanjung Priok or Cilincing. What about the streetwalker zone.

In front of the Cipinang prison?

There is one of three things goin on here:

1. members know, but are keeping their own little secrets.

2. these places, that are off the beaten path, are dangerous in the form of muggings / robberies?

3. there just isn't anything goin on elsewhere?

I don't really know the answer. The lack of breadth or lack of information has me thinking if I read another 20 pages will it be more of the same?

Anyone on here wants volunteer which / where the railroad tracks are that are mentioned? You mean the tracks near jatinegara?[/QUOTE]I agree. Unfortunately most people seem to be frequenting the same 3-4 locations.

I browsed a bit through the last 20 posts. Am I right under the assumption that 300-400 k plus tip is the norm for a short time without condom in these venues?

Whats the overnight prices including 2-3 pops?

[QUOTE=MaximusV;2992402]
I can already hear the screams. Why are you destroying the market. Haha. I tip all the ladies because they have terrible lives and a terrible job and if some cash can bring a little joy into their lives than so be it. Please be nice to them. From my experience, they all were very sweet and really tried hard to give a good experience. More to come on just how popular I became here!
[/QUOTE]Don't take this as personal criticism. Tipping is a bit of a hot topic. At the end of the day I'm all for a person doing what they want with hard earned money. Just some thoughts.

I always find these excuses for tipping rather strange. If you really felt bad for them and their shitty situation, why wouldn't you just tip them without having sex with them. LOL. Then you wouldn't be "destroying the market". I mean if you really cared about these people and their shitty situation, you might donate to a charity that helps women in poverty. Or perhaps an indonesian poor prostitutes charity? Right? I think most people don't really care about people's shitty situation unless it makes them feel bad. So really, you're tipping to prevent yourself from feeling bad.

I'm the same way, but I don't try to paint it as trying to help people. In the USA I tip because I feel guilty. That's the truth. And I feel socially compelled to do it. If I were more of an asshole with a spine I would not tip. Its stupid. But I would also gladly accept higher prices in all restaurants and places where people normally expect tips, so employers can pay their damn employees.

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;2992444]Thank you. Yes, have read about CJs and BATs but only people mentioning the name but not actual experience ie quality and quantity of ladies and cost. Your feedback was very helpful on price, can you give any further details on the quality and quantity? Are they more likely to speak some English as compared to Classic etc?
[/QUOTE]CJ'S. It is a big bar inside the Hotel Mulia on the 2nd floor. Opens at 9 pm. Band starts at 10 pm. I usually arrive around 9:45 to get a good seat near the entrance & check out the girls as they come in. This can occasionally be a hassle if a random girl latches on to me. I will tell them I am here to look only and that sends them away. Many girls are in their mid to late 20's.

By 11 pm it starts getting crowded. By midnight it is usually full. As long as you are ok with 2 juta, it's hard to imagine you can't find someone to your liking. All I met speak decent English.

Pics attached of various girls I met at CJ'S.

BATS is similar in the Shangri-la hotel. Most nights I made a stop at both.

There is a 100,000 rp entrance fee which includes a drink at both.

Good Luck.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2992484] So really, you're tipping to prevent yourself from feeling bad.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Nothing more.

[QUOTE=SeaTraveler;2992552]CJ'S. It is a big bar inside the Hotel Mulia on the 2nd floor. Opens at 9 pm. Band starts at 10 pm. I usually arrive around 9:45 to get a good seat near the entrance & check out the girls as they come in. This can occasionally be a hassle if a random girl latches on to me. I will tell them I am here to look only and that sends them away. Many girls are in their mid to late 20's.

By 11 pm it starts getting crowded. By midnight it is usually full. As long as you are ok with 2 juta, it's hard to imagine you can't find someone to your liking. All I met speak decent English.

Pics attached of various girls I met at CJ'S.

BATS is similar in the Shangri-la hotel. Most nights I made a stop at both.

There is a 100,000 rp entrance fee which includes a drink at both.

Good Luck.[/QUOTE]That's super helpful, thank you!

[QUOTE=SeaTraveler;2992552]CJ'S. It is a big bar inside the Hotel Mulia on the 2nd floor. Opens at 9 pm. Band starts at 10 pm. I usually arrive around 9:45 to get a good seat near the entrance & check out the girls as they come in. This can occasionally be a hassle if a random girl latches on to me. I will tell them I am here to look only and that sends them away. Many girls are in their mid to late 20's.

By 11 pm it starts getting crowded. By midnight it is usually full. As long as you are ok with 2 juta, it's hard to imagine you can't find someone to your liking. All I met speak decent English.

Pics attached of various girls I met at CJ'S.

BATS is similar in the Shangri-la hotel. Most nights I made a stop at both.

There is a 100,000 rp entrance fee which includes a drink at both.

Good Luck.[/QUOTE]No offense but these girls look like trash and they look like mid 40's not mid 20's. The girls at Classic, Travel, Starmoon, Sari Ayu, etc look way fucking prettier, way fucking younger and cost a fraction of your CJs and BATS girls.

But that being said, you shouldn't be posting these women's pictures on this website, I'm sure they have children, and families and they don't need their unredacted face pictures being plastered on a hooker forum.

-Gabacho.

[QUOTE=SeaTraveler;2992552]CJ'S. It is a big bar inside the Hotel Mulia on the 2nd floor. Opens at 9 pm. Band starts at 10 pm. I usually arrive around 9:45 to get a good seat near the entrance & check out the girls as they come in. This can occasionally be a hassle if a random girl latches on to me. I will tell them I am here to look only and that sends them away. Many girls are in their mid to late 20's.

By 11 pm it starts getting crowded. By midnight it is usually full. As long as you are ok with 2 juta, it's hard to imagine you can't find someone to your liking. All I met speak decent English.

Pics attached of various girls I met at CJ'S.

BATS is similar in the Shangri-la hotel. Most nights I made a stop at both.

There is a 100,000 rp entrance fee which includes a drink at both.

Good Luck.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the warning. Will be staying far away from that collection of aunties.

Plantsmoke here. So those fellahs on doxy pep. We all know that mongering seems to go along with drinking beer. So how do you do it? How do you keep your kidneys, liver and stomach / digestion / flora.

In one piece while you are on doxycycline? Do you walk around Classic and any other watering hole drinking fruit juices?

Because drinking beer while on antibiotics is a recipe for disaster, no?

[QUOTE=MaximusV;2992402]This is for the newbies that are thinking about going to Jakarta. I'm going to give you the real impressions of the place from a guy that likes high quality living and high quality women. This is not from the perspective of a cheap charlie. When I go on a trip I expect to live like a king. I read the stories of some guys scraping up a few pennies to come here and live like a peasant, no thanks, that's not for me.

Airport.

First thing after getting off the plane, I bought the visa on arrival, I think it was equivalent to $30 USD. Passport check was easy, I went to the agent, she looked at my passport and said next time go through the machines and just scan and go. Ok cool will do.

All this talk about ATM's and low withdrawals. There are 3 ATM's before / after customs can't remember. The first machine is an HSBC and the other 2 are major Indonesian banks. The machines have a 3 mil IDR limit. Very easy to get all the cash you need from these machines. I did 4 transactions and took a total of $12 mil. No headache no hassle. Easy..[/QUOTE]Well this post is a little short on details. I need elaboration please. So you buy the visa on arrival ok. That's good for 30 days? How do you get the additional 30 days. I do not want to visit immigration office for additional 30 days. I want to pay an agent to get me my additional 30 days. What is a Jakarta agency that does this that won't rip you off?

And what about the onward flight? I do things spontaneously; I have never planned ahead in my life. With two weeks left on visa I will purchase flight into batam and cross into Singapore.

Does immigration Jakarta question you about your onward flight plans? thanks a helluva lot.