Jakarta

Pool tables at terminal 2 huh? Sounds like an area, the pool tables, that might have decent lighting to get a look at your girl before you choose her. Dim lighting in this joint seems like a master plan.

How many of the girls would be chooseable with normal lighting?

[QUOTE=SeaTraveler;2992552]CJ'S. It is a big bar inside the Hotel Mulia on the 2nd floor. Opens at 9 pm. Band starts at 10 pm. I usually arrive around 9:45 to get a good seat near the entrance & check out the girls as they come in. This can occasionally be a hassle if a random girl latches on to me. I will tell them I am here to look only and that sends them away. Many girls are in their mid to late 20's.

By 11 pm it starts getting crowded. By midnight it is usually full. As long as you are ok with 2 juta, it's hard to imagine you can't find someone to your liking. All I met speak decent English.

Pics attached of various girls I met at CJ'S.

BATS is similar in the Shangri-la hotel. Most nights I made a stop at both.

There is a 100,000 rp entrance fee which includes a drink at both.

Good Luck.[/QUOTE]Wow I can't even imagine someone can go with this kind of looking womens for free. To pay them 2 millions need to be out of your mind!!

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2992599]Thanks for the warning. Will be staying far away from that collection of aunties.[/QUOTE]LOL it must be some proper girls there for that price LMAO!

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2992641]Plantsmoke here. So those fellahs on doxy pep. We all know that mongering seems to go along with drinking beer. So how do you do it? How do you keep your kidneys, liver and stomach / digestion / flora.

In one piece while you are on doxycycline? Do you walk around Classic and any other watering hole drinking fruit juices?

Because drinking beer while on antibiotics is a recipe for disaster, no?[/QUOTE]Take the Doxy in the morning after breakfast and then drinking in the evening is fine. I did take one of those gut bacteria capsules every day anyway just to make myself feel better.

[QUOTE=SeaTraveler;2992552]CJ'S. It is a big bar inside the Hotel Mulia on the 2nd floor. Opens at 9 pm. Band starts at 10 pm. I usually arrive around 9:45 to get a good seat near the entrance & check out the girls as they come in. This can occasionally be a hassle if a random girl latches on to me. I will tell them I am here to look only and that sends them away. Many girls are in their mid to late 20's.

By 11 pm it starts getting crowded. By midnight it is usually full. As long as you are ok with 2 juta, it's hard to imagine you can't find someone to your liking. All I met speak decent English.

Pics attached of various girls I met at CJ'S.

BATS is similar in the Shangri-la hotel. Most nights I made a stop at both.

There is a 100,000 rp entrance fee which includes a drink at both.

Good Luck.[/QUOTE]I think 2-3 million would be fair for these women. To pay ME to bed them: the.

What are some venues that offer genuinely hot and young girls?

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2992649]Pool tables at terminal 2 huh? Sounds like an area, the pool tables, that might have decent lighting to get a look at your girl before you choose her. Dim lighting in this joint seems like a master plan.[/QUOTE]Pool table area also has dim lighting.

The good lighting area will be the along the walls with the couches with all the girls. If you want to see the girls, it is better to walk around the venue, and look at the girls sitting on the couches, rather then waiting for the mammasan to bring over several girls.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2992649]How many of the girls would be chooseable with normal lighting?[/QUOTE]It would depend on your standards.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2992127]Well I don't get it. You weed them out by buying that lady drink, not a shot, right? Who would pick / choose them right off the sofa? So you buy them a ladies drink. Are these girls drink guzzlers?

They seem to guzzle the shots right? And how long does mamasan allow her girl to sit with you? Seems there is not much time? You need to start rattlin off your desires rather quickly huh?

Swingin the bat in todays brothels is unfortunately all too common, but ID rather swing the bat with ladies drinks / interviews then swingin the bat with 365 $$.[/QUOTE]You don't need to buy them a drink to talk to them. I believe it's up the girls how long they want to sit with you.

Why not just go with your gut instincts and pay 365 K to interview a naked girl in the room. It's only about $22 US. Cheaper than a lap dance. If you are on a budget (nothing wrong with that), then you can interview the girls beforehand without buying a drink. Although I've never seen a monger interview 5 or 10 girls before choosing one. Try it. Wondering if you will develop a "reputation".

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2992641]Plantsmoke here. So those fellahs on doxy pep. We all know that mongering seems to go along with drinking beer. So how do you do it? How do you keep your kidneys, liver and stomach / digestion / flora.

In one piece while you are on doxycycline? Do you walk around Classic and any other watering hole drinking fruit juices?

Because drinking beer while on antibiotics is a recipe for disaster, no?[/QUOTE]Generally, mixing alcohol and antibiotics would reduce the effectiveness of the antibiotic drug. Example: it might take 2 weeks to cure your STD instead of the normal 1 week.

Of course, you should consult your doctor / pharmacist about the health affects of mixing alcohol and Doxy-Pep. Or least read the written literature (it said that it can "potentially" lead to side effects).

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2992572]No offense but these girls look like trash and they look like mid 40's not mid 20's. The girls at Classic, Travel, Starmoon, Sari Ayu, etc look way fucking prettier, way fucking younger and cost a fraction of your CJs and BATS girls.

But that being said, you shouldn't be posting these women's pictures on this website, I'm sure they have children, and families and they don't need their unredacted face pictures being plastered on a hooker forum.

-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]Not just children but GRANDCHILDREN in some of them's cases. Jaysus.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2992829] Although I've never seen a monger interview 5 or 10 girls before choosing one. Try it. Wondering if you will develop a "reputation".[/QUOTE]Sadly I have. In fact, I walked into Classic with him. Old American guy in his 70's who was my friend's friend. Mamasans kept bringing girls to him and he would feel them up as long as he could until the girls got fed up. No drinks. No intentions to take a girl. He said he was saving himself for BATS / CJ's later around midnight. It was 6 pm! I told him not to waste girls' time but he didn't listen. Disassociated myself with him and never went out with him again.

Wondering if any of you have brought a Indonesian girl on holiday overseas or invited her to AU / EU / US. I saw one fishbowl girl I used to hang out with now she lives in AU with a boyfriend. She stopped working as she won't even answer any messages I've sent, not even to flirt just to congrats her for moving up in life. I know I Thailand is pretty common people actually marry local or even pros but not sure about Indonesia. And also a pro seems that has to be someone kinda special as you won't want to get in a relationship or bring overseas a greedy golddigger.

Any experiences here?

[QUOTE=Rocketeer666;2993331]Wondering if any of you have brought a Indonesian girl on holiday overseas or invited her to AU / EU / US. I saw one fishbowl girl I used to hang out with now she lives in AU with a boyfriend. She stopped working as she won't even answer any messages I've sent, not even to flirt just to congrats her for moving up in life. I know I Thailand is pretty common people actually marry local or even pros but not sure about Indonesia. And also a pro seems that has to be someone kinda special as you won't want to get in a relationship or bring overseas a greedy golddigger.

Any experiences here?[/QUOTE]I read somewhere you had to pay the Indo gvt 50 k USD to marry an Indonesian girl.

The limiting factor for bringing an Indonesian girl on holiday outside Indonesia might be the passport. Not sure they're entitled to a passport as a matter of course. Muslim countries do not readily let their women travel abroad, except to go work as slaves in hard-line Muslim countries.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2992641]Plantsmoke here. So those fellahs on doxy pep. We all know that mongering seems to go along with drinking beer. So how do you do it? How do you keep your kidneys, liver and stomach / digestion / flora.

In one piece while you are on doxycycline? Do you walk around Classic and any other watering hole drinking fruit juices?

Because drinking beer while on antibiotics is a recipe for disaster, no?[/QUOTE]No interaction with alcohol. Only interaction with alcohol for Metronidazol, Tinidazol, and some few other antibiotics.

[QUOTE=XXL;2993347]I read somewhere you had to pay the Indo gvt 50 k USD to marry an Indonesian girl.

The limiting factor for bringing an Indonesian girl on holiday outside Indonesia might be the passport. Not sure they're entitled to a passport as a matter of course. Muslim countries do not readily let their women travel abroad, except to go work as slaves in hard-line Muslim countries.[/QUOTE]I've did a thorough online search and there is nothing about a such government fee on marriage, I've also came across a lot of western / indo marriage culture advice but nothing about dating / marrying a pro, FL advice. That's probably easier to find here I hope!

[QUOTE=Rocketeer666;2993357]I've did a thorough online search and there is nothing about a such government fee on marriage, I've also came across a lot of western / indo marriage culture advice but nothing about dating / marrying a pro, FL advice. That's probably easier to find here I hope![/QUOTE]You may have to buy off the girl from the outfit she is "under contract" with. That may be where I got the 50 k USD story from. I mentioned to a Classic girl I'd like to invite her over to Thailand. She thanked me but she didn't sound like she believed this would ever be possible. Methinks if those girls could freely travel we'd see many of them in Bangkok and Pattaya (instead of girls from Africa 5000 miles away).

[QUOTE=Rocketeer666;2993331]Wondering if any of you have brought a Indonesian girl on holiday overseas or invited her to AU / EU / US. I saw one fishbowl girl I used to hang out with now she lives in AU with a boyfriend. She stopped working as she won't even answer any messages I've sent, not even to flirt just to congrats her for moving up in life. I know I Thailand is pretty common people actually marry local or even pros but not sure about Indonesia. And also a pro seems that has to be someone kinda special as you won't want to get in a relationship or bring overseas a greedy golddigger.

Any experiences here?[/QUOTE]There are two stages to this question.

1/ Can / should you take an Indo girl overseas? Assuming she has a passport and visa for the arrival country, then sure. It's actually easier that many other Asian countries that have anti people smuggling initiatives. She won't get stopped at the airport just because immigration feels like it.

2/. What if she is a hooker? Can you: sure. See above. A freelancer can just leave with you. However, a girl indentured to one of the big brothels or someone who is paying off debts will have to clear those debts before she can leave. Even if a girl doesn't have debts, she will likely tell you that she has, just to get more money out of you. Should you is a totally different matter. Most would argue against traveling with a hooker, especially back home. The downsides and risks can be huge. Lots of guys still do it and many do it with out consequence so you need to make your own mind up. I'd never do it. Why would anyone want to import a hooker INTO Thailand?

The above assumes that you are asking about a short term holiday then return. Forever is a totally different matter.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2993373]There are two stages to this question.

1/ Can / should you take an Indo girl overseas? Assuming she has a passport and visa for the arrival country, then sure. It's actually easier that many other Asian countries that have anti people smuggling initiatives. She won't get stopped at the airport just because immigration feels like it.

2/. What if she is a hooker? Can you: sure. See above. A freelancer can just leave with you. However, a girl indentured to one of the big brothels or someone who is paying off debts will have to clear those debts before she can leave. Even if a girl doesn't have debts, she will likely tell you that she has, just to get more money out of you. Should you is a totally different matter. Most would argue against traveling with a hooker, especially back home. The downsides and risks can be huge. Lots of guys still do it and many do it with out consequence so you need to make your own mind up. I'd never do it. Why would anyone want to import a hooker INTO Thailand?

The above assumes that you are asking about a short term holiday then return. Forever is a totally different matter.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Solid points here mate, thanks. Well there is a girl I've met in Jakarta who I have been talking a lot since last time and she seems fun and want to be out of the hook of the classic mafia, of course she has a debt and I'm wondering if she would make a good girlfriend just like the other one I've seen moving to AU. I would not import a girl to Thailand but perhaps give a shot to bringing a girl into EU and make her a GF. Again there are a lot of if's I don't know if her family is good or not, if she is serious about this I want to be your girlfriend situation, if she would be able to adapt to a country like UK or Germany and would be willing to learn the language and get a normal skill / job to have a living there.

I guess I'm just after some experienced guys here who took some pro and did them right in western countries.

I know Asian girlfriends are great when you pic the right one. A hooker not too sure. A girl caught by a debt mafia and want out, perhaps?

Thanks.