Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Daddy07;1905385]Lighten up BKKdog; it can't be that bad. If I remember correctly you're getting all you can handle on the Internet chat sites now. So why let a few cheap Charlie's bother you? You want an up to date report on what's going on in Pattaya now. That's a rather broad request isn't it? Whatever you want is here; I can tell you that regardless of your budget. So cheer up and enjoy![/QUOTE]The chat apps are getting a little stale so I'm trying to Mix it up a bit. It's not a broad request actually. I just want to be able to read the forum and not have to weed through all the crap about the prices being too high and how good it was in the olden days. Anyways cheers mate.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1905376]I'm looking for an up to date report about what's going on in Pattaya and it's impossible with all this price complaining. I'm not looking for any specific questions to be answered. For example, how's Insomnia these days, what are the quality of girls like this past week. I should just be able to read the forum and enjoy it to get these answers. Instead, it's full of all this negative crap. If you don't like Thaialnd, one can go elsewhere instead of complaining.

In the end, every woman and man has their price to pay and accept. Deal with it and monger within your means. It is and always has been supply and demand. I'm sick of the Cheap Charlies and now even you two have jumped on the band wagon with them. Are times tough for the two of you now?[/QUOTE]The only negative crap I see on here is coming from you. Who is here complaining about price? What I see is more reports of you saying people are complaining about price and calling people cheap charlies and saying what you don't want to read (did Jackson die and leave ISG to you?) than there have been of someone saying anything about price. Since you know so much about price but don't seem to know much about anything else (biitching that you can't find an Insomnia report and don't know the quality of the women there), please at least fill us in on how much we should be paying the ladies of Pattaya.

In the 10 years that I have been going to Pattaya not much has changed. You go find a chick, fuck her, and give her money. Besides that everyone has different tastes and YMMV. We look forward to your Insomnia reports you big spender you.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1905527] (did Jackson die and leave ISG to you?) .[/QUOTE]Anyone know if this is true? Hey, Jackson dude: You still alive and kicking? LOL!

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1905376]As a wise member of ISG once said, or 2 members, search the forum, all the answers are there. I'm looking for an up to date report about what's going on in Pattaya and it's impossible with all this price complaining. I'm not looking for any specific questions to be answered. For example, how's Insomnia these days, what are the quality of girls like this past week. I should just be able to read the forum and enjoy it to get these answers. Instead, it's full of all this negative crap. If you don't like Thaialnd, one can go elsewhere instead of complaining.

In the end, every woman and man has their price to pay and accept. Deal with it and monger within your means. It is and always has been supply and demand. I'm sick of the Cheap Charlies and now even you two have jumped on the band wagon with them. Are times tough for the two of you now?[/QUOTE]Should, would. Could. The forum is different things to different people. Price is definitely up for discussion.

Cheap Charlie? Hardly. I do expect value for money, and sorry at the prices many dudes are paying today most Thai gals are not good value for money. I mean really, how many Thai gals have you had that your would describe as amazing in bed? How many really know their way around a man's anatomy and can take you to the brink, bring you down, and back up again? How many experiment with different techniques? How many are seductive in the room in manner and dress? In my experience; not many. The allure of Thailand was never amazingly skilled gals; it was volume, fun, and low cost. Well, at least for me and for many of the punters that I know. The fact that you could have a gal for 25 USD in BKK and 500 Baht in Patters was wonderful. At that price expectations were low as well. Who cares how great she is when you are paying 1 k Baht? Hell, it's worth that even if she is a bit of a starfish and it's only a really short ST, even a quickie. But now you are talking 4 times that price or more in many instances. And hey, I don't know about you but even counting for inflation there are very few things that have gone up percentage wise like that. Again, I have no issue paying that kind of money for a great looking girl who posses the skills and delivers the experience to warrant that type of money. Remember we live in a nation where the average income is still about 500 USD per month. Now let's contrast that with NYC where people make real money. Friends there are getting great looking Russian gals for 200 USD per hour. MSOG, GFE, PSE, seduction, great skill sets. Find me Thai gals like that and I will gladly shell out the 4-5 K. But sorry, in comparison GoGo gals in BKK and Pattaya are not good value.

Supply and demand? There are instances where the theory just does not apply to the P4 P industry in Asia. I could give you several examples.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1905774]let's contrast that with NYC where people make real money. Friends there are getting great looking Russian gals for 200 USD per hour. MSOG, GFE, PSE, seduction, great skill sets. Find me Thai gals like that and I will gladly shell out the 4-5 K. But sorry, in comparison GoGo gals in BKK and Pattaya are not good value.
[/QUOTE]Don't believe what your NY friends are telling you. Great looking Russian girls performing all the good stuff in NYC will run you at least thousand dollars, probably a significant amount more. You don't believe me? Listen to what Jordan Belfort had to say about NY hookers in the early '90's:

"The truth was that hookers did take credit cards or at least ours did! In fact, hookers were so much a part of the Stratton subculture that we classified them like publicly traded stocks: [B]Blue Chips were considered the top-of-the-line hooker, zee crme de la crme. They were usually struggling young models or exceptionally beautiful college girls in desperate need of tuition or designer clothing, and for a few thousand dollars they would do almost anything imaginable, either to you or to each other.

Next came the NASDAQs, who were one step down from the Blue Chips. They were priced between three and five hundred dollars and made you wear a condom unless you gave them a hefty tip, which I always did.

Then came the Pink Sheet hookers, who were the lowest form of all, usually a streetwalker or the sort of low-class hooker who showed up in response to a desperate late-night phone call to a number in Screw magazine or the yellow pages. They usually cost a hundred dollars or less, and if you didnt wear a condom, youd get a penicillin shot the next day and then pray that your dick didnt fall off..."[/B]

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Astounding, at times, to hear of posters' wonderful alleged sexploits with sex workers in the GestopoLand That is Sex Prison USA. Now, I'd love to hear of some good ol' down-home Hooking Oppos, but frankly, it's easy to read the news, of 50 ish Asian hags getting nabbed for offering wanks to coppers, etc. Etc. The claims of Russkies to be had for $200 in the vicinity of NYC, or a thousand miles within, are. F*ing absurd. One must consider the risk, in this paradise of *cough" Democracy *uncough* of participating in the sport, of having your property (car, whatever) confiscated, ruining your livelihood, and the list goes on. As they say, don't shit where you sleep. I frolick in Asia. And you should too. Now, if any one is able to point me in the direction of relatively risk-free action with some Asian lookers 18-35 in the Midwest USA, under $400 a pop, I'd be happy to hear of it. I won't be expecting answers, just sympathy. Until then, we've got. BKK, Patts, AC. As long as it lasts.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1905840]Don't believe what your NY friends are telling you. Great looking Russian girls performing all the good stuff in NYC will run you at least thousand dollars, probably a significant amount more. You don't believe me? Listen to what Jordan Belfort had to say about NY hookers in the early '90's:

"The truth was that hookers did take credit cards or at least ours did! In fact, hookers were so much a part of the Stratton subculture that we classified them like publicly traded stocks: [B]Blue Chips were considered the top-of-the-line hooker, zee crme de la crme. They were usually struggling young models or exceptionally beautiful college girls in desperate need of tuition or designer clothing, and for a few thousand dollars they would do almost anything imaginable, either to you or to each other.

Next came the NASDAQs, who were one step down from the Blue Chips. They were priced between three and five hundred dollars and made you wear a condom unless you gave them a hefty tip, which I always did.

Then came the Pink Sheet hookers, who were the lowest form of all, usually a streetwalker or the sort of low-class hooker who showed up in response to a desperate late-night phone call to a number in Screw magazine or the yellow pages. They usually cost a hundred dollars or less, and if you didnt wear a condom, youd get a penicillin shot the next day and then pray that your dick didnt fall off..."[/B][/QUOTE]Natty the economy in the US was booming in the 90's. Almost everyone was making big money. Now folks are working two jobs in many cases just to pay the bills. My friends tell me the price for hookers has gone down considerably in many parts of the US. Very different economy now.

While we are discussing how one should or should not spend in Pattaya, look what some people do. Surely, this encourage girls in GoGo bars to make a living purely from drinks. 12,240 Baht. ALL OF IT ON LADY DRINKS! That is 3 days of budget, even for a liberal spender like me. The bigger tragedy is, a closer look at the girl will reveal that she isn't a stunner either. Sigh!!

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[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1905920]While we are discussing how one should or should not spend in Pattaya, look what some people do. Surely, this encourage girls in GoGo bars to make a living purely from drinks. 12,240 Baht. ALL OF IT ON LADY DRINKS! That is 3 days of budget, even for a liberal spender like me. The bigger tragedy is, a closer look at the girl will reveal that she isn't a stunner either. Sigh!![/QUOTE]If you look closely at the photo it seems that the bill is itemizing ladydrinks for each girl, most only got a few drinks but the one near the top's bill is in the thousand baht number.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1905920] 12,240 Baht. ALL OF IT ON LADY DRINKS! [/QUOTE]That's crazy. You can take 5 girls home ST for that or likely the girl you bought drinks for a week.

Since I'm not in tourist mode I find I am very cheap with my LD's now. Even for the girls I want I am limiting them. No complaints at all from any of the girls.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1904492]Guys just a harmless comment but it needs to be said. Please don't come on here and cry about being overcharged for amounts such as 500 Baht. If you can't afford to pay an extra 500 Baht over the so called going rate, then you should not even be coming to Thailand. Every lady has the right to ask for whatever she wants. It's her body and frankly I'm tired of the price police on here.[/QUOTE]Not all guys let these woman hustlers walk all over them. Yes a woman can ask whatever she wants and obviously she will try to get as much as she can from you. She sizes you up from the way you dress, your jewelry, and the way you act. Guys, also have the right to pay as much or as little as they want. Some guys are doormats and these woman who are pro's will eat you alive. I can almost guarantee many of these guys that just give the girl what ever she wants are the same guys that after they leave continue to send money to these girls actually thinking the girl is his girlfriend. Many guys have no negotiation skills with woman or even know how to talk to woman. So they can't understand the fact that they are paying two to three times more when everyone else is paying less.

Many guys go to Thailand themselves. They never see the girl interacting with other customers. If they did they would no be on her bragging about paying an extra 500 Baht. They would realize wow I am being treated differently than other customers. This girl is taken advantage of me and just walk away right there if she does not charge me what everyone else pays. But, because this is mostly done on a one on one discussion. Guys don't see what's going on even if other guys are telling him.

If we are talking about Pattaya with the exception of go go girls. The cost is 500-1000 baht. 1000 is the maximum. If she is charging you more it is because she either does not respect you, things you are a sucker or is repulsed by you and is demanding more money to bribe her to spend time with you. In any case be a man and stand up for yourself and walk away.

P.S, this post is on the topic of price and is not directed to Bkkdog. It is to everyone on price in general.

[QUOTE=Daddy07;1905374]I tell the go-go girls who approach me that my name is Kee Neeow and I'm a butterfly. They always laugh; and somehow, someway many of them not all, but the ones who like cheerful smiling old men -- still give me their phone numbers, come to my condo, or meet me before work; I never pay bar fines; and I still manage to get laid as much as I want. So I can tell you that nothing is wrong in Pattaya; I can still get value for my money; and I'm not complaining. If an old fart like me can do it, so can you.[/QUOTE]When I imagine living there I imagine a mongering life like this. Thank you for the simple description on your methods.

On my last trip I learned halfway through to tell them I'm Korean, it always gets a big laugh which is one way to a pretty women's heart. I'm glad to read your mo and will follow in your footsteps.

As a tourist your world is not really available (for me / others) but if you have a couple of months or live there some charm / baht will make your dreams come true.

Thanks for the post. I still have hope.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1905920]12,240 Baht. ALL OF IT ON LADY DRINKS! That is 3 days of budget, even for a liberal spender like me. The bigger tragedy is, a closer look at the girl will reveal that she isn't a stunner either. Sigh!![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1906061]That's crazy. You can take 5 girls home ST for that or likely the girl you bought drinks for a week.[/QUOTE] 12240 baht is nothing. From the web, Rehab on soi buakhao, 2012.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1905920]While we are discussing how one should or should not spend in Pattaya, look what some people do. Surely, this encourage girls in GoGo bars to make a living purely from drinks. 12,240 Baht. ALL OF IT ON LADY DRINKS! That is 3 days of budget, even for a liberal spender like me. The bigger tragedy is, a closer look at the girl will reveal that she isn't a stunner either. Sigh!![/QUOTE]Do you know for sure that it was just 1 guy? Sometimes it could be 2 or more Korean, Japanese etc. Paying on 1 bill.