Hong Kong Club Reports

It kind of made sense for girls to quote $120 when the dollar was at around 15,16 pesos. Now since it's pretty much at 20, $100 should be a little more acceptable for them. Problem is they have been used to quoting 120 for so long, a lot of them are not going to want to drop down to 100 again. Especially with so many suckers willing to pay upwards of $150.

One of my regulars called me earlier today b*tching about barely making any money yesterday. Said mongers were more interested in partying and drinking instead of taking girls arriba. I just let her vent out her frustrations while I did some work around the house. I told her since today was Saturday, surely she would accumulate more arribas. She sent me a video a couple hours ago of her hanging out with a couple in their room, so I know she already has one knocked down at least LOL.

[QUOTE=Nothing24;2966417]It kind of made sense for girls to quote $120 when the dollar was at around 15,16 pesos. Now since it's pretty much at 20, $100 should be a little more acceptable for them. Problem is they have been used to quoting 120 for so long, a lot of them are not going to want to drop down to 100 again. Especially with so many suckers willing to pay upwards of $150.

One of my regulars called me earlier today b*tching about barely making any money yesterday. Said mongers were more interested in partying and drinking instead of taking girls arriba. I just let her vent out her frustrations while I did some work around the house. I told her since today was Saturday, surely she would accumulate more arribas. She sent me a video a couple hours ago of her hanging out with a couple in their room, so I know she already has one knocked down at least LOL.[/QUOTE]Yup, that's what my friend complained to me about as well. I've also been having women contact me to come to visit them who haven't messaged me in months or ever really.

Maybe its just a short trend but there were so many girls at the club this week and the vibe and energy was a bit down.

[QUOTE=Nothing24;2966417]It kind of made sense for girls to quote $120 when the dollar was at around 15,16 pesos. Now since it's pretty much at 20, $100 should be a little more acceptable for them. Problem is they have been used to quoting 120 for so long, a lot of them are not going to want to drop down to 100 again. Especially with so many suckers willing to pay upwards of $150.[/QUOTE]Well I think that's one point that I didn't bring up to those complaining about prices. If guys consistently paid in pesos prices would be more stable. If girls got 2000 pesos for 100 but only 1600 for that 100 they will demand more dollars. The problem is that since most guys don't pay in pesos now that it's back to 20 the girls aren't suddenly going to say ok I'll now take $100 again.

So those of you trying to tell guys what they should pay you'd be better off paying in pesos and trying to convince others to do the same. You will still be wasting your time but at least it's a more logical complaint.

[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2966283]It does affect others. Know that.[/QUOTE]Sorry, not my problem.

[QUOTE=Nothing24;2966417]It kind of made sense for girls to quote $120 when the dollar was at around 15,16 pesos. Now since it's pretty much at 20, $100 should be a little more acceptable for them. Problem is they have been used to quoting 120 for so long, a lot of them are not going to want to drop down to 100 again. Especially with so many suckers willing to pay upwards of $150.
.[/QUOTE]LOL, exactly. They were actually telling me the exchange rate was bad hence their quote of $150, now if you ask them why, they just shrug their shoulders. Point is they know dumb ass mongers that show up once in a blue moon will paying it.

I saw one girl once, told her $100 + propina depending on her service. She said, either buy her fichas or $150/30. I walked away. The entire 2 hours I was there with a buddy of mine, she stood by a corner playing with her phone. Later I took a knockout 19 year old, one of the top girls, for the same price I offered that other girl. We took a lot of pics she hanging all over me, would have posted some pics to show what she looks like but this is a public forum, I respect her privacy.

[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2966565]LOL, exactly. They were actually telling me the exchange rate was bad hence their quote of $150, now if you ask them why, they just shrug their shoulders. Point is they know dumb ass mongers that show up once in a blue moon will paying it.

I saw one girl once, told her $100 + propina depending on her service. She said, either buy her fichas or $150/30. I walked away. The entire 2 hours I was there with a buddy of mine, she stood by a corner playing with her phone. Later I took a knockout 19 year old, one of the top girls, for the same price I offered that other girl. We took a lot of pics she hanging all over me, would have posted some pics to show what she looks like but this is a public forum, I respect her privacy.[/QUOTE]I see a lot of messages complaining about the prices, I've also looked at prices in Colombia, Thailand and the Philipines, out of all the destinations Tijuana Mexico is still the cheapest.

Prices went up all over the world after the shutdown, inflation hit everyone and everything.

I think you guys should count your blessings for having the lowest prices, nearest location and descent quality at your fingertips, either that or start booking trips somewere else and see how that goes.

[QUOTE=MikeyVee123;2966084]Generally I agree but some things do get cheaper when production scales up and the technology gets cheaper. I never thought in the mid 90's when a laptop was $2000+ that you could get one 30 years later for 10% of that. My first flat screen TV was a 40" plasma in like 2000 that cost like $5000, now you can get a 50" at walmart for $300. We just need production of tapatias, chilangas and regias to scale up, open up another 3 or 4 HKTJ and we should be good to go.[/QUOTE]The other thing that people in this group are not considering is that the "production" as you say of new talent is way down, the main reason is Only Fans, all the girls who want to do this type of work are doing Only Fans first and see if they can make it, that diminishes the amount of available working girls, that's a world wide phenomenon.

When it comes to Mexico, the country's quality of life is getting better and better, for the past six years the minimum wage has been increased by 20% yearly, it will go up again by another 15% this coming January, this means that a lot of girls may decide to get another type of job now that they pay more.

Remember, sex work is the last type of work the girls wish to do, they do it just because the amount of money they can make, if something else comes a little bit closer they will do something else.

[QUOTE=Jim0129;2966571]
Remember, sex work is the last type of work the girls wish to do, they do it just because the amount of money they can make, if something else comes a little bit closer they will do something else.[/QUOTE]This is true at the beginning. Once they get used to the easy money, specially in places like the zona clubs where they can choose whom to go with and security is relatively good, they will never leave elsewhere unless it becomes difficult for them continue for one reason or another.

As I mention in previous posts the girls are expecting $2000/ week. This is money even lawyers with good clients don't make in Mexico and also puts them exactly center of middle class in the USA. With that money they are "well to do" in Mexico. The issue is consistently making that much.

[QUOTE=Jim0129;2966569]I see a lot of messages complaining about the prices, I've also looked at prices in Colombia, Thailand and the Philipines, out of all the destinations Tijuana Mexico is still the cheapest.

Prices went up all over the world after the shutdown, inflation hit everyone and everything.

.[/QUOTE]I am not buying that at all. I know of Thailand and Colombia. Anyone who knows these places will tell you, no way in hell Tijuana is cheaper than those once you get there.

[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2966588]I am not buying that at all. I know of Thailand and Colombia. Anyone who knows these places will tell you, no way in hell Tijuana is cheaper than those once you get there.[/QUOTE]I've just read a report in the Medellin forum from a reliable source, he just came from a trip las September and he was quoted $200 in parque lleras, the equivalent of $60 in the casas (which is the equivalent of street girls in Tijuana), he didn't do any street action.

Lutron and Fase Dos were around $150 for 45 minutes.

Youtubers in Thailand and Philipines are quoting $150 to $200 dll's.

[QUOTE=Jim0129;2966589]I've just read a report in the Medellin forum from a reliable source, he just came from a trip las September and he was quoted $200 in parque lleras, the equivalent of $60 in the casas (which is the equivalent of street girls in Tijuana), he didn't do any street action.

Lutron and Fase Dos were around $150 for 45 minutes.

Youtubers in Thailand and Philipines are quoting $150 to $200 dll's.[/QUOTE]I don't know who your reliable source is but that is not the typical rate in any of these countries. I'm thinking you're confusing the Colombian peso with the dollar. The going rate for many girls in Colombia is around 120-150 k cop which is about $40 usd. Whoever is paying $200 usd in Colombia is unfortunately being either stupid or ridiculously fooled. Likewise in Thailand. Was there very recently and no one is paying $150-200 usd for girls. I'm thinking you're confused or the posters you're referencing have no idea what they're doing. Tijuana is extremely convenient for quick trips across the border, however it's expensive compared to other cities across LATAM.

[QUOTE=Jim0129;2966589]I've just read a report in the Medellin forum from a reliable source, he just came from a trip las September and he was quoted $200 in parque lleras, the equivalent of $60 in the casas (which is the equivalent of street girls in Tijuana), he didn't do any street action.
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Lutron and Fase Dos were around $150 for 45 minutes.

Youtubers in Thailand and Philipines are quoting $150 to $200 dll's.[/QUOTE]Every sane monger avoids poblado in Medellin, its a tourist trap, so is the strip clubs. Casas are not equivalent to SG's in Tijuana, they are much, very much better than the SG scene. In fact it is one of the top venues in which you get the best girls. I have almost 200 girls whom I befriended in FB, they are all quoting me around $50-60/ HR. If we met. I have not seen them in person but from the videos and pics they are top notch. One girl actually sent me her pic when she was out and about and then a video while she was masturbating, that girl is a knockout. In both she was holding my phone number written in a piece of paper. I sent her $30 for the effort. On and off she is till sending me some provocative pics. I send no more money.

Medellin is not like Tijuana, it is not a zoned out place where sex work takes place, they have no such area I know about. You go all over town to find women and you do and Poblado is the one place you avoid. Also the Hotels, food, transportation much cheaper than Tijuana.

Same thing can be said about Bangkok and Pattaya, places I visited. The Hotels I stayed in, better than what you see in Ticuan were for $25-$35/ night. For $7 dollars they brought me a fish dish enough for 5 people. I was like whoa I did not order all this. I was there before the pandemic and I paid $60 short time (Usually runs into the hour) for go go girls, now it seems gone up to about $80.

I don't know anything about the Philippines. Being quoted $200 doesn't mean that is the only thing available. You have options. In Tijuana not much. You have to haggle with Mongers and Putas to keep the price low.

Just wondering if all rooms in Cascadas have a safe / lockbox? Or is it only the more expensive ones?

I see recommendations to go with the double vs the single room, are the double room on higher floors away from the club noise?

I also see rooms with stripper poles and Jacuzzi. Will the girls actually use it?

[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2966283]It does affect others. Know that.[/QUOTE]The problem with this thinking is that ISG members make the market, so to speak, to such an extent to effect prices. I don't think ISG members make the market in Hong Kong club or any other p4 p establishment in the world. Majority of the men who visit Hong Kong (or any other such place in the world) are not ISG members, so the going rate is established by others and the girls not ISG members.

Even if an ISG member overpays and the girl expects higher price from other customers, the rest of the men who visit that place either accept or refuse to pay the girl that price. If they refuse to pay then prices don't go up otherwise, they will go up. In any case, the point I am making is that the non-ISG members have most influence on price increases than ISG members. Even if all ISG members stick together and decide not to overpay it is not going to work because that doesn't have any effect / control / influence over majority of the men who make the market pay. Until all males in the world who partake in mongering has a place to communicate and decide what one should pay to keep prices in check, it is useless to get upset / angry at a member who honestly is sharing their experience here including what they paid. On the other hand, the girls working in an establishment can easily collude / communicate quite easily and try to set prices, but it may not work if most men who visit the place refuse to pay.

We think ISG is some huge site, and the members make up the majority of the punters in the world. I highly doubt that is the case. It's more like a just a drop in the bucket.

Just for reference, I had visited Tijuana few times early 2000's and I remember paying 50-70 bucks.

If you're not negotiating at all and just taking the first rate that is given to you, then you are making a mistake.

Only exception for this is if you are quoted an already "low" rate from the beginning.

I say "low" in quotations because what is considered low in HK is questionable at this point.

A few years ago you used to be able to get girls for $80 usd. Now in 2024 and coming into 2025 it seems that the bare minimum is $100, with the absolute lowest being $90 if you're willing to go through a lot of girls declining your offer and you having to negotiate hard on top of that.

I don't think it's even possible to get $80 usd for a session in HK anymore. Idk, maybe some monger out there is able to stumble upon 1 HK girl that is willing to do it, the point is though that it's not likely at this point and $100 will give you more access.

Now, knowing this, you should be hesitant about paying any more than $100 for a session.

If a girl is quoting you $120, you should highly consider just walking away, regardless of how hot she is.

The root problem though is that if you can only go to HK once or twice in a year, you're better off visiting a few times in your life and never going back again.

Because if you can't regularly go to HK, you have no leverage when it comes to negotiating how much you pay for an arriba.

You basically arrive at the club your one Friday and Saturday night of the whole year in which you can come to HK, and whatever girls happen to be there those nights is basically all your opportunities for the year. And if the girls you are attracted to and want to go arriba with decide that they will charge $120 and will not budge under that amount under any circumstances, then you pretty much have two options.

Option 1) pay the inflated amount and most likely get a bad service, and on top of that most likely the girl will require you pay upfront (you should never pay upfront and make it clear that you won't before you take the girl up).

Option 2) walk away and end up leaving HK without having sex with any girls. After you've spent a bunch of time and money on travel to get there.

Basically the point is that if you can't regularly go to HK, you basically can't negotiate.

This includes being able to negotiate prices as well as being able to negotiate the fact that you won't pay upfront under any circumstances.

In both instances you have to walk away if the negotiation isn't going in your favor. But if you're not a regular you can't just come back to the club tomorrow or next weekend and try again. Essentially continuing to comb through girls until you get one that agrees to your terms.

If you live too far from HK, your best bet is to visit maybe 2-3 times in your life, pay the $120 per session, get your little sex sessions, have some fun with girls, bust some nuts, and then that's it. Never come back to HK again.

If you are able to go to HK regularly and it won't be a problem for you, then you should always negotiate everything. And if any terms of yours are not agreed upon, then do not bring them up to the room under any circumstances and try a different girl.