Hong Kong Club Reports

[QUOTE=Bscotti;2966829]Just wondering if all rooms in Cascadas have a safe / lockbox? Or is it only the more expensive ones?

I see recommendations to go with the double vs the single room, are the double room on higher floors away from the club noise?

I also see rooms with stripper poles and Jacuzzi. Will the girls actually use it?[/QUOTE]I haven't stayed in Cascadas for quite some time because I'm pretty much done with Hong Kong and prefer Tinder, but the reason to go with the double is one bed for fucking and the other for sleeping. Initially perplexed chicas chuckled when I gave them that response after they asked me why I have two beds.

[QUOTE=Jim0129;2966589]I've just read a report in the Medellin forum from a reliable source, he just came from a trip las September and he was quoted $200 in parque lleras, the equivalent of $60 in the casas (which is the equivalent of street girls in Tijuana), he didn't do any street action.

Lutron and Fase Dos were around $150 for 45 minutes.

Youtubers in Thailand and Philipines are quoting $150 to $200 dll's.[/QUOTE]I've been to Tijuana, Medellin, Thailand and The Philippines. Your reliable source is giving out some inflated rates that is not representative of the reality there, especially when they are quoting dollars in a foreign country. (Never Pay in Dollars!) It's not nearly that high unless they got suckered, fooled and taken advantage of which it sounds like what happened. In my experience (as of October 2024) it's only a fraction of what you are quoting it is.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2966891]If you live too far from HK, your best bet is to visit maybe 2-3 times in your life, pay the $120 per session, get your little sex sessions, have some fun with girls, bust some nuts, and then that's it. Never come back to HK again.[/QUOTE]No Sir! Bad Advice. You should ALWAYS negotiate regardless. The likely outcome will be $100 and not $120. If you want to take it a step further, negotiate in pesos, not dollars. The exchange rate is good right now and offer her 2 K pesos instead.

Interesting read, but I disagree with most of it.

I think you're trying too hard to make me look at the experience of going there the way that you do, and I don't. I'm one of those that go only a couple of times a year and frankly in well over a decade of doing this I have yet to have an unsatisfying visit overall. I can't be bothered to spend half or more of my time there negotiating and 90% of the time I have a great session by just agreeing to the girl's asking price. The other 10% is almost always a lack of chemistry that has nothing to do with the money I'm spending.

I think you have that part of it backwards. If you're a hardass about the price, chances are you're going to be less satisfied because the girl is less satisfied by what she's getting for the service she's offering. Not to mention the fact that this isn't bickering about the price of a pair of shoes in the mercado. These are real people and they deserve a bit of respect that I don't think you're giving them.

IMO if you're going to the ZN a couple of dozen times a year then you're spending too much time and money on prostitutes and that's a whole different issue. Getting your panties in a knot over ten or twenty bucks or whether the taxi costs eight bucks versus five seems pretty silly to me when you're spending literally thousands every year on your p4 p hobby. Give your head a shake.

Ultimately it comes down to this: I'll spend my money and time there the way I want to. Your opinions are noted but IDGAF if I'm pricing you out of the market. That means more for me. That's capitalism, comrade. Democracy, whiskey, sexy. Sorry not sorry if you miss out on the sexy part (lol).

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2966891]If you're not negotiating at all and just taking the first rate that is given to you, then you are making a mistake.

Only exception for this is if you are quoted an already "low" rate from the beginning.

I say "low" in quotations because what is considered low in HK is questionable at this point.

A few years ago you used to be able to get girls for $80 usd. Now in 2024 and coming into 2025 it seems that the bare minimum is $100, with the absolute lowest being $90 if you're willing to go through a lot of girls declining your offer and you having to negotiate hard on top of that.

I don't think it's even possible to get $80 usd for a session in HK anymore. Idk, maybe some monger out there is able to stumble upon 1 HK girl that is willing to do it, the point is though that it's not likely at this point and $100 will give you more access.

Now, knowing this, you should be hesitant about paying any more than $100 for a session.

If a girl is quoting you $120, you should highly consider just walking away, regardless of how hot she is.

The root problem though is that if you can only go to HK once or twice in a year, you're better off visiting a few times in your life and never going back again.

Because if you can't regularly go to HK, you have no leverage when it comes to negotiating how much you pay for an arriba.

You basically arrive at the club your one Friday and Saturday night of the whole year in which you can come to HK, and whatever girls happen to be there those nights is basically all your opportunities for the year. And if the girls you are attracted to and want to go arriba with decide that they will charge $120 and will not budge under that amount under any circumstances, then you pretty much have two options.

Option 1) pay the inflated amount and most likely get a bad service, and on top of that most likely the girl will require you pay upfront (you should never pay upfront and make it clear that you won't before you take the girl up).

Option 2) walk away and end up leaving HK without having sex with any girls. After you've spent a bunch of time and money on travel to get there.

Basically the point is that if you can't regularly go to HK, you basically can't negotiate.

This includes being able to negotiate prices as well as being able to negotiate the fact that you won't pay upfront under any circumstances.

In both instances you have to walk away if the negotiation isn't going in your favor. But if you're not a regular you can't just come back to the club tomorrow or next weekend and try again. Essentially continuing to comb through girls until you get one that agrees to your terms.

If you live too far from HK, your best bet is to visit maybe 2-3 times in your life, pay the $120 per session, get your little sex sessions, have some fun with girls, bust some nuts, and then that's it. Never come back to HK again.

If you are able to go to HK regularly and it won't be a problem for you, then you should always negotiate everything. And if any terms of yours are not agreed upon, then do not bring them up to the room under any circumstances and try a different girl.[/QUOTE]

Pretty sure that all of the rooms have a safe. The contact email is on the Cascadas website so you can always ask them and get the real answer. .

The stripper poles and jacuzzis are only in some of the rooms and the only way to know if the girl will use them is to ask them.

[QUOTE=Bscotti;2966829]Just wondering if all rooms in Cascadas have a safe / lockbox? Or is it only the more expensive ones?

I see recommendations to go with the double vs the single room, are the double room on higher floors away from the club noise?

I also see rooms with stripper poles and Jacuzzi. Will the girls actually use it?[/QUOTE]

I wrote a few days back about a good experience I had with a girl at HK. I paid that girl $160, which apparently made some people upset. What is more, I had been on a string of pretty good GFE level sessions, so I was feeling pretty confident about my upcoming visit to HK. Unfortunately, It didn't work out that way.

It was unusually busy yesterday, considering that Mondays are typically somewhat slower. It was so busy that, at one point, they opened up the stage on the upper level. I actually wish they would just leave that area open all the time because it's a little bit less crowded, and I like to chill out there for a bit. I don't understand the mentality that crowded is better so that we need to be hemmed into a smaller area on the weekdays. Does anyone actually care if it looks crowded? I just care about the selection.

Anyway, it was a bit of a sausage fest, which was kind of a bummer since I go either Monday or Tuesday to get the room discount and avoid the sausages. There was one girl I had my eye on. She was a new girl, or, at least, I hadn't seen her there before. Unfortunately, she was busy with a client almost the whole night. I hung out at HK for a bit. Did the rounds to tropical and Chicago. Not much to my liking at these places. Then returned to HK. Finally, this girl was free, so I made my approach.

We sat down and had drinks, did the obligatory small talk. She didn't speak any english. She seemed really tired. At one point I asked her when her shift began and she said 1 pm. It was around 4 am at the time, so apparently she had been there over 15 hours?! I guess she had perfect justification for being tired, but I was still kind of put off by the fact the she seemed disinterested and gave me the vibe of just wanting to go home. At one point I leaned in for a kiss, to try to see if maybe she was a bit shy, but she responded with a kind of dead fish kiss on the mouth. It wasn't going that great, but it was difficult to tell if she was not interested or just exhausted.

Finally, I asked here if she wanted to come to my room. She said yes, but that the cost was $150. I was slightly suprised by this because she was more of a young, girl next door type than one of the fake breasted vamps that would normally try to price gouge you. When she said that, it pretty much sealed it that we weren't going to go. I felt no need to negotiate because it was apparent that she had no enthusiasm and it would just be transactional. I told her something along the lines of "there isn't enough chemistry to justify a price of 150" and sent her on her way. After that, since there wasn't any other girls I was that interested in, I just left--the night was a loss.

It's strange because the is the first girl in over a year that quoted me any price. I usually try to avoid any discussion of price so that I can just pay what I want after the session is over. I am generous though so the girls don't complain that it's too little. I actually figure out a fair price more by reading this board than by asking the girls. A girl asking for the money upfront changes the whole dynamic for me.

That's the life of an HK monger. One day you are the king of the world, The next week, it's back in the dumpster. The only consistent thing is that I will be back next week.

Hello brothers,

Anyone have any Christmas break experience? Is it a complete waste of effort?

[QUOTE=Guardman;2967178]Hello brothers,

Anyone have any Christmas break experience? Is it a complete waste of effort?[/QUOTE]Most ladies go home for Christmas.

[QUOTE=HKMonger;2967063]I wrote a few days back about a good experience I had with a girl at HK. I paid that girl $160, which apparently made some people upset. What is more, I had been on a string of pretty good GFE level sessions, so I was feeling pretty confident about my upcoming visit to HK. Unfortunately, It didn't work out that way.

It was unusually busy yesterday, considering that Mondays are typically somewhat slower. It was so busy that, at one point, they opened up the stage on the upper level. I actually wish they would just leave that area open all the time because it's a little bit less crowded, and I like to chill out there for a bit. I don't understand the mentality that crowded is better so that we need to be hemmed into a smaller area on the weekdays. Does anyone actually care if it looks crowded? I just care about the selection.

Anyway, it was a bit of a sausage fest, which was kind of a bummer since I go either Monday or Tuesday to get the room discount and avoid the sausages. There was one girl I had my eye on. She was a new girl, or, at least, I hadn't seen her there before. Unfortunately, she was busy with a client almost the whole night. I hung out at HK for a bit. Did the rounds to tropical and Chicago. Not much to my liking at these places. Then returned to HK. Finally, this girl was free, so I made my approach.

We sat down and had drinks, did the obligatory small talk. She didn't speak any english. She seemed really tired. At one point I asked her when her shift began and she said 1 pm. It was around 4 am at the time, so apparently she had been there over 15 hours?! I guess she had perfect justification for being tired, but I was still kind of put off by the fact the she seemed disinterested and gave me the vibe of just wanting to go home. At one point I leaned in for a kiss, to try to see if maybe she was a bit shy, but she responded with a kind of dead fish kiss on the mouth. It wasn't going that great, but it was difficult to tell if she was not interested or just exhausted.

Finally, I asked here if she wanted to come to my room. She said yes, but that the cost was $150. I was slightly suprised by this because she was more of a young, girl next door type than one of the fake breasted vamps that would normally try to price gouge you. When she said that, it pretty much sealed it that we weren't going to go. I felt no need to negotiate because it was apparent that she had no enthusiasm and it would just be transactional. I told her something along the lines of "there isn't enough chemistry to justify a price of 150" and sent her on her way. After that, since there wasn't any other girls I was that interested in, I just left--the night was a loss.

It's strange because the is the first girl in over a year that quoted me any price. I usually try to avoid any discussion of price so that I can just pay what I want after the session is over. I am generous though so the girls don't complain that it's too little. I actually figure out a fair price more by reading this board than by asking the girls. A girl asking for the money upfront changes the whole dynamic for me.

That's the life of an HK monger. One day you are the king of the world, The next week, it's back in the dumpster. The only consistent thing is that I will be back next week.[/QUOTE]Solid report, I agree that if you're not satisfied with the price then don't be compelled to take the deal, you can always walk away.

The issue becomes when you only go to HK 1 or 2 times per year and spend hundreds of dollars and a 3-5 hour flight to get there.

At that, paying that $150 may be tempting if she is the only girl that night that you want and she refuses to budge below $150.

That's why I said before that it's difficult to negotiate if you only go a few times a year. Compared to if you can go to HK every weekend, then you're in terrific shape.

You can afford to leave Friday and Saturday night empty handed with no skin off your back, and simply come back next weekend for another try.

If you're on a vacation though? Then you can't afford to do that.

[QUOTE=AgaveBoy;2967021]Interesting read, but I disagree with most of it.

I think you're trying too hard to make me look at the experience of going there the way that you do, and I don't. I'm one of those that go only a couple of times a year and frankly in well over a decade of doing this I have yet to have an unsatisfying visit overall. I can't be bothered to spend half or more of my time there negotiating and 90% of the time I have a great session by just agreeing to the girl's asking price. The other 10% is almost always a lack of chemistry that has nothing to do with the money I'm spending.

I think you have that part of it backwards. If you're a hardass about the price, chances are you're going to be less satisfied because the girl is less satisfied by what she's getting for the service she's offering. Not to mention the fact that this isn't bickering about the price of a pair of shoes in the mercado. These are real people and they deserve a bit of respect that I don't think you're giving them.

IMO if you're going to the ZN a couple of dozen times a year then you're spending too much time and money on prostitutes and that's a whole different issue. Getting your panties in a knot over ten or twenty bucks or whether the taxi costs eight bucks versus five seems pretty silly to me when you're spending literally thousands every year on your p4 p hobby. Give your head a shake.

Ultimately it comes down to this: I'll spend my money and time there the way I want to. Your opinions are noted but IDGAF if I'm pricing you out of the market. That means more for me. That's capitalism, comrade. Democracy, whiskey, sexy. Sorry not sorry if you miss out on the sexy part (lol).[/QUOTE]I prefer to negotiate but you can pass on that if you want.

Also, if you're only going a couple of times a year then I question for what purpose you are going for and how much money (flight tickets, transportation) and time are you investing to get there.

If it's not that much and you prefer to just go to HK a few times a year, then you can do that.

The point still stands though that it's obvious one should talk about what they want in the room and how much it's going to cost before they bring the girl to the room.

If you don't do that, you're definitely going to run into bad experiences more often than not. The environment of HK and the girls that work there doesn't allow you to just be care free and get guaranteed quality every time. In HK you need to select for girls that are likely to give you a good experience, and go with those.

Sure you can just take them up after some good conversation, but you will randomly get bad occurrences because you are skipping an obvious precaution which is to negotiate and make sure you're going to get what you want.

[QUOTE=HKMonger;2967063]It's strange because the is the first girl in over a year that quoted me any price. I usually try to avoid any discussion of price so that I can just pay what I want after the session is over. I am generous though so the girls don't complain that it's too little. I actually figure out a fair price more by reading this board than by asking the girls. A girl asking for the money upfront changes the whole dynamic for me.

That's the life of an HK monger. One day you are the king of the world, The next week, it's back in the dumpster. The only consistent thing is that I will be back next week.[/QUOTE]If a price hasn't been discussed and the session goes well, I always give $120. Never been a problem. A lot of times the girls don't even count the money and stuff it in their purse. If a session is pretty standard, then I give $100. Never really been an issue either. Luckily I haven't really had any bad sessions with newer girls this year. I can only think of one or maybe two, which ended up being the wham bam thank you ma'am types. But yeah, if a girl never discusses a fee and you can tell she had a good time with you as well, all they want is a fair fee, which to me I have calculated as $100 as the base, and a $20 bonus if she offered any extras like DFK or BBBJ.

[QUOTE=Nothing24;2967249]If a price hasn't been discussed and the session goes well, I always give $120. Never been a problem. A lot of times the girls don't even count the money and stuff it in their purse. If a session is pretty standard, then I give $100. Never really been an issue either. Luckily I haven't really had any bad sessions with newer girls this year. I can only think of one or maybe two, which ended up being the wham bam thank you ma'am types. But yeah, if a girl never discusses a fee and you can tell she had a good time with you as well, all they want is a fair fee, which to me I have calculated as $100 as the base, and a $20 bonus if she offered any extras like DFK or BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Not to brag but I've had chicas stay the night with me for free. How? They just want a place to crash and a 20 dollar bribe will prevent any knocking.

Been going to Tijuana for decades. This use to happen a lot more often. The bottom line is everyone sees US tourists as a chance to make money. That includes police. If they find anything illegal they will expect a fine to be paid on the spot. I have gotten out of this having tinted windows and driving wrong way on one way road. Tijuana beach police got a "fine" from me for having open container a few years ago but I did not have time to screw around having flight to catch.

Based on how easy it is to get cocaine in 2024 I am assuming police find drugs on people a lot more in 2024.

The price thing from girls has always been there. In 2019 a couple super hot girls in HK wanted $150 and left when I would not pay it. I am not against paying a girl more than 100 but I do expet better service. Will not pay more just because she looks better. Got a lot of trophy girls in the case already. I want more locas at this stage of my monger career.

[QUOTE=StubbornMule;2964462]

Had one bizarre experience which made me angry. Was a block or two from HK on my way to the pharmacy. A cop stopped me - for no reason at all - and frisked me, making me put my hands on the wall while he checked my pockets, supposedly looking for drugs or weapons. He took my wallet and opened it but did not take anything. As I left the pharmacy I saw him doing this to another man. WTF. Stupid 3rd world bullshit.

Overall, I didn't enjoy this trip quite as much as I usually do. Prices have definitely gone up, and I felt like the overall quality of girls has slightly decreased. There are fewer young spinners. The nonstop blaring music and elbowing through the hordes of mongers gets old very quickly. I also got a sore throat on the last day which definitely put a damper on the trip.[/QUOTE]

We were in HK most of Sunday night, sitting at the football booth in the middle of the club, watch sport, drink, ogle girls, not too many hot ones early in the afternoon. Couple wingmen showed up, Luke, Storm Trooper, MMAFAN, R2, Randy ect. So much fun to meet up with wingmen. We were having a good time drinking, waiting for the hottest second-shift girls to show by 6 PM.

Noob quickly bagged a tall, slim stripper, light-skinned covered with large tattoos from head to toes, unbelievable. I guess he's a patron of the arts hehe. Eventually noob took 3 HK girls up.

R2's Tijuana GF is pregnant but was drinking heavily in HK as of last week. Her tummy has gotten so large she no longer wants to go in HK to party, but was jealous that he may be screwing other girls. Of course he would be screwing other girls as her big tummy interferes with good penetration. A new slim, young girl straddled R2 lap, talking a long time without the normal fichas. She agreed to $100 for an hour BBFS. He quickly took her to the hotel. He came down after a very long session with this girl, exhausted. I had to bank him money to take the pregnant GF to dinner and give her some for food next week. R2 got quite a few good deals with HK girls, but sometimes he was still ripped off by sharks. Cannot win them all.

Tiffany was a tall, slim, light-skinned stripper with a pretty face looking more like English or German. A wingman was in love with her for years, taking her up every time. She came back stripping this week, but 4 years after CoVid19 shutdown, her face and body padded some age. She looked more like a tired MILF. I texted and alerted the young wingman but he never answered, may have died of illness or by ex wife's mischiefs hehe.

I offered beers to a few hot spinners, got tels of local Tijuana girls for future hook ups and potential vacaciones, eventually took 2 to the hotel, hot 18 and 20 YO Tijuana spinners with limited English. They all started with $150 and agreed to $120 for half hour with no kissing or DATY. For the same money, you can have an hour with hot, young escorts from Goodgirls with DFK, DATY and possible BBFS with a little propina, some will go to hotels in La Zona. Will do both escorts and HK girls next trip.

We checked Tropical and Chicago but found no hot girls; quickly returned to HK.

We ordered 2-4-1 steak dinners with Azuls' coupon, 1 rib eye, 1 arrachera with french fries, string beans, mushroom, white toast, tortillas ect, brought to our table. Steaks were perfect medium, cut up, tender, smoky and tasty. Azul's has improved its cuisine a great deal. It was a fun dinner while knocking down a few Tequila shots, ogling 100 hot, young girls fluttering, flirting all around us.

I also had 5 tires balanced, a fender painted for cheap, a quick hair cut, spicy and delish shrimp cocktails, tacos, beef soup, Azuls' steaks, fun time partying with hot young girls then their sexy companies in bed, damn good time, worth driving down, despite the policia shakedown annoyance. Really nice hanging wingmen again. Will likely repeat the good time next Sunday.

[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;2967310]Not to brag but I've had chicas stay the night with me for free. How? They just want a place to crash and a 20 dollar bribe will prevent any knocking.[/QUOTE]I've had girls stay with me gratis as well LOL. But that's another subject.

Hey guys, been reading a while trying to prepare for my first HK trip in January.

Been scouring forum but is there a post you can point me too with a list of useful spanish phrases to learn before I go?