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[QUOTE=Chicago85;3030200].. I would also say it's exceptionally rare for you to seek a clinica girl at one of the Boates. They generally do the clinicas because they like the lifestyle and daytime work. ...
[/QUOTE]I was surprised at seeing Clinica girls at Casarao. I was going to Clinicas daily back then. I met two Clinica girls at Casarao although it took me some time to place them because of the different make-up and dress-style.
I guess better late than never. My apologies for late reporting. Life took over after I got back from my wonderful escape from reality trip. Considering how much this forum helped me with my trip, this could be my way of thanking you all.
Spent 5 days in São Paulo and another 4 days in Rio not including the travel.
I will add Rio trip report in Rio forum as well.
At São Paulo, visited 2 x Scandello, 3 x Cassaro, 1 x Bomboa. Also visited Moema Prime, 57 friends. I also had couple of day time sessions with providers from photoacompanhantes. Stayed at EZ Aclimacao Hotel at Vila Mariana.
Used Uber for all transportation and worked without any issues.
Google Fi network worked seamlessly without any issues except for occasional data loss inside the buildings and needed a phone restart to fix issues.
On most days, I used local ATMs with my Charle Schwab debit card and did not see any issues. I think the upper limit was equivalent to around $200. I also exchange some USD to BR once in São Paulo and another time at Rio at a random exchange place I found on google maps. Both ATMs and exchange places did not give good exchange rate.
Stay EZ Acllimacao was decent and met all my expectations and on par with any 3 star hotel experience in the USA. Price was around $50 per night for a business studio with living area and king size bed. Very roomy and comfortable. Initially I booked a single room which was really small and asked for an upgrade. Front desk staff are very helpful. They don't have an ATM at the premises and couple of times I had to walk to near by business area to find an ATM.
Hotel was girl friendly and I took two girls to the hotel and had no issues taking them to my room.
My mongering experience is limited with few visits a year to Hong Kong club in Tijuana. So my comparison is solely based on my 4 years of HK experiences.
Scandello. Is great. Beautiful and friend women and really liked the ambiance. Food is fantastic. I visited twice and both time arrived there prior to 7:00 pm to avoid entry fee. Girls were asking any where from BR1200 to BR2500. I had two session in total at Scandello one for BR 1000 and another for $1200. GEF sessions and great introduction to Brazil. At HK it takes a while and couple of sessions to built the chemistry to get a GEF session and at Scandello it was readily available with most girls in my experience. On an avg it costed me $300 per visit but worth it IMO.
Cassaro. This is where I struck the economy gold. I reached there around 11:00 pm and stayed until 2:00 pm. Not Scandello quality but way better than non HK girls in Tijuana. At BR 600-800, considering GEF service they were real bargain. I had a total of 3 sessions at Cassaro and 2 of them also visited me at my hotel the next day. All in all a great experience at reasonable price.
Bomboa. Was a miss for me. It was a slow Sunday and there were only few girls. I would say less than 10. They all quoted Scandello price. Nothing worth mentioning.
Moema Prime. On my first visit there were only 3 girls and I picked Grazi. Incredible GEF session for BR300. For some reason we both clicked and for $50 it was an out of the world experience. I took her number and I saw her 3 more times during the day time. I am looking forward to seeing her again in Nov.
57 friends. Was a miss for me. May be I went there too early and lineup was not to my liking.
Couple of weeks before my trip, I started reaching out to handful of girls from photoacompanhantes via what's up. I invited couple of girls to my hotel during the day. One turned out to be an ok session and the other was excellent. Both were around BR 400 including uber fee.
All in all a fantastic trip and was completely drained out prior to my Rio trip. I am visited Brazil again in Nov and looking forward to visiting São Paulo again. This time I am planning on concentrating more on other Clinicas during the day and visit Cassaro in the night.
Went to Casarao last Saturday, today there were way more people than Tuesday. Line upon entry was packed with guys eager to enter. Once I entered I sat down on the first floor. In front of the Japanese old lady bartender. Usual stuff, next me there were two old men looked like there were from Dominican Republic only spoke Spanish. One of them kept chatting to a Loira which had big bunda and silicone tits, kept fondling her in all the good places. Old man looked like he struck heaven on earth. But not all things end up well. After a while the old man realizes that he has lost his wallet. In a panic he calls the guards who kept trying to find it. Loira tells that she didn't do it, and nearby garotas laugh and say they didn't see anything. Me personally didn't saw anything out of the ordinary. But being seated nearby they asked me to move from the bar to check. This is where I get frustrated, had to move and there was no spot to sit in the area, kept waiting and decided to call it quits and move to the underground floor.
Was looking to score a blue eyed Loira, sadly no good choices. There were some loiras but either somewhat at age 30's or with heavily surgically modified bodies. There were some babes in the area, I leaned into the corner by the end of the bard, glanced to my right and there it was. One hell of a beauty I saw, petite and slim body. Somewhat taller and with black hair. All natural and with the right curves. We kept staring until I moved to her she gave me her name we should call her K. Up close she was more beautiful with white skin and black hair she looked real good. Introductions went and everything, I immediately asked her to stay with me for the whole night, she countered with 1500 for all. Which I countered that I could only do 1000. She said okay that's not a problem. Then before we went out I told her that I was staying in the area of Guarulhos, which she seemed happy to know because she lives nearby.
To my surprise I was stunned, I came prepared to negotiations with an idea that it could be tough to convince a garota to come with me to a really far area. This moment is perhaps one of the most memorable of this journey. Everything felt effortlessly and when I asked her why she didn't even asked for more. She said that it was a way better deal to be close to her home and scoring. It makes sense so off we go.
I found the price reasonable since short term or 1 hour in rooms besides would cost between 300 to 700. Long term I have been asked between 1000 to as high as 2500. Have not considered lower like 800 or so. Would like feedback from any of you guys if you have pulled this off.
After paying the exit fee for her we went to the nearby hotels to pick her bags up, this area is where you also can see garotas changing in open view to her work clothes. I asked her if they had bathrooms or if girls just had a fetish for exhibitionism. She told me that it was better to o change in open view, rather than forming a line for a bathroom. Anyways I got a good look at her body when she started stripping to her clothes. We chatted some and then I called the Uber, went on our way and during the ride we holded hands and all the couple stuff.
After reaching the hotel in a good 40 minutes with barely any traffic. I registered her on the room and after entering we couldn't stop touching ourselves. We kissed a lot and I slowly removed her clothing. My god what an insane body. K had some natural see cups with a pretty tight body for a 24 year old. Kitty was hairless and her lips looked juicy. Decided to take a shower and we went together and it was very good time. Caressing her big round white bunda was a good feeling.
Before we started she was concerned about me paying her fee, she asked for payment before we did the deed, and this is were maybe I thought I could be in a bad situation and the girl would runaway after paying. I chatted told her what's the problem. She told me that she just wanted payment so we could do as we agreed. She had guys not want to pay her after completing it. After thinking it for some minutes well I chose to take the risk.
It was either the best fuck ever or the biggest fraud that could happen. Well things did go according to what we agreed and she asked me what I wanted to start with.
I asked her to start with a blowjob. Good idea this girl just kept sucking me nonstop for 20 minutes. Her technique was dam good. Afterwards we went with cowgirl for some long ass time. When I entered that pussy it was heavenly and warm. Her big ass was marvelous to smack and while fucking I kept on sucking her soft nipples, yum that was absolutely good.
Then we took a short break and kept chatting, honestly it wasn't that bad our conversations. Mostly general stuff and so so. We then went for round 2 in doggystyle and goddamit it was another sight to see her big ass in that position. I kept going at like like a madman. Sadly I could finish after fucking her for a long time.
We went to sleep because I was tired. Like absolute tired from going all day outside and not sleeping good last night. Woke up at 6 am and just then we started doing it again. Went again in cowgirl and it was good. We finished and we took showers again and we exchanged numbers for next time visit.
Things I would have done differently:
Chatted more to her and offer her a more lower price.
Things I learned from the last Casarao experience:
Not buying drinks for girls. (Find it a waste of money).
Overall I'm happy that everything went really well. From the moment I approached her to the way we fucked in the hotel.
It's not the usual when people go to Casarao to chose for all night. Because you don't know if the girl will be good in the bed or if her body is not what you wanted. But overall if one spend a whole night with a great garota I think it is better than standard one hour or 45 minutes. No pressure on both sides and better experience.
[QUOTE=Nounce;3030178] .
It's YMMV. You will find that the same girl that goes to Casarao will not charge Scandallo price if you read enough reports. So it is location dependent. They also may charge a little more than the going rate simply because they have worked at Scandallo despite they are not the hottest in the club.
This is common working girl behavior, just like many in Lleras In Medellin. They are good actors. I have reported and posted whatsapp conversations that one girl was belittling me about my offer when others paying something like 200 - 400 USD for her, I don't remember the actual number. But eventually she was eager to come to my apartment for like 50 USD. I also have girl showing me the conversation amongst themselves about how much they charge that I know wasn't true in my case. LOL. I think one will have success if you offer a reasonable rate to some Scandallo girls to come before their shift. Just like Lleras girls do.
Like Scadallo, Lleras also attracts some better family background and hotter girls. I go to both places looking for something that I can't find elsewhere. The majority of them are available for less elsewhere.
My observation is that girls do respond to generosity in money and nice personality but it may take a while for these to sink in and for them to respond if you don't want to overpay too much.[/QUOTE]Yes exactly, that's how women estimate their own price IE she saw another girl charging x amount. Then she must charge the average price around what she saw. What is flawed with this is that it doesn't account for the flaws of her and her beauty and kind of service provided. The best tactic for this stuff is to not accept it and walk away. I have found that my attitude of devil may care works absolutely great in this case. It is not that I try to haggle or anything I just find it so tedious and just completely forget it and look for something else. Women sense it in a way, that I have more options and I just generally don't care if it works or not. Curiously this also works in non pros, women also like this attitude.
[QUOTE=Fewdie;3030274]The percentage of the girls at Scandallo who goes home at the end of their day without making any money has to be pretty high.[/QUOTE]Sounds like I should be going there find gems at low prices.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3028851]It's amazing how two people can have very different opinions and experiences with the same hotel. I stayed at the Mercure Ibirapuera Privilege the first time I went to Sao Paulo and hated it. Didn't like my room (drafty with poor climate control, safe didn't work but they brought another one, horrible internet connectivity), terrible customer service (including room service), the restaurant environment was OK but didn't like the food, dumb asshole taxi drivers out front who couldn't seem to follow simple directions. Maybe it was just a bad one off, but I never gave them another chance after that. Discovered the Mercure Times Square on subsequent trips. Also in Moema, but even better situated if you ask me. Quiet (important given the air traffic in the area) but no restaurant, which I don't care about since there are plenty of places around to eat (including grocery stores) in easy walking distance. Also only a short walk to a big Bradesco branch and the Ibirapuera Shopping Mall just a little further away. Even found a nearby barbershop. The last time in Sampa, I stayed at the Wyndham in Moema. Never again as the air traffic noise was too constant and loud! For my next trip, I'm looking to move out of Moema altogether for a different experience.[/QUOTE]There is a restaurant but it's in the building two. That's where they serve the breakfast.
[QUOTE=Nordico;3030337]There is a restaurant but it's in the building two. That's where they serve the breakfast.[/QUOTE]OK, I never investigated any other building in the complex there and preferred going out to eat around there anyway. I like being out and about in Moema where it's easy to get around. I especially like Ibirapuera Shopping where there are plenty of places to eat plus ATMs for getting cash. But next time going to try another area. I have some good suggestions from other mongers who visit Brazil. Time for a change!
Agreed, the less attractive girls definitely don't do a room a day, heck might be a room every 3 days. I wonder what is considered a good income for girls per week. Top end girl probably can do 2 rooms a day making totaling 2500+ easy.
Also it seems Brazilian guys in groups at tables expect girls to drink with them all night before a room?
[QUOTE=Fewdie;3030274]The percentage of the girls at Scandallo who goes home at the end of their day without making any money has to be pretty high.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EyesWide;3030355] a day making totaling 2500+ easy.[/QUOTE]That would be about what the girls without a degree makes a month in a regular job. She will be making what a computer science graduate make a month in a week.
My first Scandallo girl was 500. She was still charging 500 1 or 2 years later and she bought a car by then. She was a blonde spinner. Another ISGer took her right after me so she is not bad looking and we both wrote a report. She just had a cosmetic surgery so she did not allow fingering.
The system benefits the club and the top girls. KTV is a better system for the girls. I asked a girl once elsewhere, would she choose a Toyota or Mercedes if both are the same price? I think it is more for short term gain for the girls with what is happening now. I would session them once at 1000+, but not everyday with the same girl.
Hi,
I am going for a business trip to SP. Arriving Wednesday 22nd and planned to go to a club. Anyone want to hang out at Scandallo Lounge? Otherwise any tips how to dress? My first time.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=ZuluTango25;3030289]I guess better late than never. My apologies for late reporting. Life took over after I got back from my wonderful escape from reality trip. Considering how much this forum helped me with my trip, this could be my way of thanking you all.
Spent 5 days in So Paulo and another 4 days in Rio not including the travel.
I will add Rio trip report in Rio forum as well.
At So Paulo, visited 2 x Scandello, 3 x Cassaro, 1 x Bomboa. Also visited Moema Prime, 57 friends. I also had couple of day time sessions with providers from photoacompanhantes. Stayed at EZ Aclimacao Hotel at Vila Mariana.
Used Uber for all transportation and worked without any issues.
Google Fi network worked seamlessly without any issues except for occasional data loss inside the buildings and needed a phone restart to fix issues.
On most days, I used local ATMs with my Charle Schwab debit card and did not see any issues. I think the upper limit was equivalent to around $200. I also exchange some USD to BR once in So Paulo and another time at Rio at a random exchange place I found on google maps. Both ATMs and exchange places did not give good exchange rate...[/QUOTE]Great report very useful for my upcoming trip.
Who was the excellent Photoacompanhantes girl? Looking online the site seems hit or miss as to what you might get.
Cheers.
Day 3.
My third day was going to be a sort of rest day. As I say that, you might think what? Steve is taking a day off from pussy? Is this an alternate universe? Fuck no! But it's going to be a relaxing real date night with C, the other half of the infamous MMFF a few months back, rather than a club night. I am really looking forward to seeing her.
As a refresher, in the MMFF, K is the crazy high energy bubbly girl (see day 2) and C is the laid back one. But see's BJ is more on point and she is a trooper. She's not going to leave you hanging with a hard dick if you are struggling to cum. She's going to double down and play it till she gets the payoff. Love that.
So I am planning a relaxing evening with see. A day off from the madness of the club. But wait, there's more! M texts me while I am at lunch and says she is going back to Brasilia where she is from (8 hour bus ride from SP! I say Boo I will miss you. And she says but I can see you again before I leave tonight!!
Well it's already 2 PM and see comes at 7. So I push see back to 8 and say OK come at three! She does and it's amazing slow meaningful sober sex. Honestly with her great BJ, amazing pussy bareback, and top shelf kissing it doesn't take long before I blow a load CIP while kissing deeply in Mish. Fuck that was good.
So with an extra unplanned fuck in the rearview I join see st the restaurant at 8 PM. We went to a great Michelin starred place where the food is tops and the service impeccable. See, who weighs all of 80 pounds soaking wet, admits she is a diehard foodie and enjoys herself immensely.
As dinner is ending I am thinking how much I like being with this sweet soul and don't really want it to be over soon. So I ask her "do you want to just go to the room or get a drink somewhere else?" I love this answer:
"I am yours tonight. So it's up to you!
God don't you just love a girl like that? All about making you happy. So I find a vibey little Japanese craft cocktails bar. Almost like a speakeasy. And we bop on over there. A little hidden away but we manage to find it.
We have the most amazing time. We are sitting at the bar which is fun because they will ask what you like maybe you like whiskey, but a little sweet and smoky. And voila they will magician that shit right up! See is over the moon with the vibe. She's another one of these hood girls that I love never done anything like this in her life and is mesmerized. And just watching it thru her eyes is electric.
After a good long time there and two stiff drinks we head back to the hotel. The details are a bit foggy now but I remember a few things very clearly.
First, her BJ remains on point. Just the right suction. Great BLS. The works. I of course reciprocate and give her some equally on point DATY which rocks her world.
I also remember fucking in the chair. I am sitting, and she is mounted up RCG and really bringing the motion. Feels epic. I just push up deep inside her and let er ride.
In the end, we move to the bed and Mish. I adore mish kissing and her kissing is so sexy. After lots of tongue wrangling I get to sucking on her tongue and licking and basically giving her tongue head. I would normally blow CIP but I am beat and end up calling it a night after a over an hour of nonstop sex.
She of course stays overnight and we have a nice cuddle. I am thinking about morning sex, which I don't usually do, since I didn't cum last night. But soon she bops to the shower. I am pretty sure this is a signal that morning sex is off and time to start our day.
But when I return from showering she is on the bed in only a thong. I thought this such a classy move. Basically if I didn't want to have sex she'the be like oh I was just relaxing let's go. But it is equally an invitation as she leaves little to the imagination.
Of course I take the invitation and begin kissing her. I found out last night that kissing and licking her neck and ears is her hot button. She gets goosebumps all over and really horny. Don't remember much except that sober sex is amazing and I get another crashing CIP.
In a little bit, I have a meeting but I ask her if she wants to stay and we will have sushi right after. She is down so we head over to sushi after my meeting. Great sushi and a nice venue. Again she eats like she hasn't for days. No idea where she puts it!
So a lovely day 3 and morning of day 4.
And my third girl CIP in three days is absolutely an unbreakable record.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3031143]Day 3 - The Adventures Continue: My third day was going to be a sort of rest day.
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So, a lovely day 3 and morning of day 4. And my third girl CIP in three days is absolutely an unbreakable record.[/QUOTE]Stop! You're killing me. I can't take any more. Great report, Steve. I am glad to hear you are enjoying yourself. I hope to return to SP a couple of days after Thanksgiving. Can't wait.
Ah good to have that perspective. Like with everything in life, winner take most, which just means hotties in all the places. I can see a hottie move to a slower boate to be the hottest one there and make more with less competition. And of course speaking Portuguese fluently, spending a longer time in Brazil and building a rolodex of garotas all improve pricing over time.
[QUOTE=Nounce;3030953]That would be about what the girls without a degree makes a month in a regular job. She will be making what a computer science graduate make a month in a week.
My first Scandallo girl was 500. She was still charging 500 1 or 2 years later and she bought a car by then. She was a blonde spinner. Another ISGer took her right after me so she is not bad looking and we both wrote a report. She just had a cosmetic surgery so she did not allow fingering.
The system benefits the club and the top girls. KTV is a better system for the girls. I asked a girl once elsewhere, would she choose a Toyota or Mercedes if both are the same price? I think it is more for short term gain for the girls with what is happening now. I would session them once at 1000+, but not everyday with the same girl.[/QUOTE]
Axel I'm going to back you away from the edge a little bit. Solid Bomboa experience and lame Scan experience. Sigh.
Day 4.
So today I am meeting my new ISG friend again. We are going to play some pool and then hit Bomboa for a change of pace. As it's sort of a supper club atmosphere we will eat dinner there.
We meetup at a pool place that he often goes to in Vila Olympia. But all the tables are taken and the wait is long. Instead we take a ten minute walk to a Bar which has six tables and is 100% vacant. We are the only ones there! Beers are cheap but the tables are absolute torture with the most unforgiving pockets ever. Nonetheless we laugh and play five rounds.
We hit Bomboa around 8 or 9 I think and it's fairly empty. But it has a nice high end vibe. If you have been to Scandallo, take the restaurant and cut it in half and you have Bomboa. Great food. High end atmosphere and top service. Basically like Scan but maybe 1/8 the size (Scan is mega!
If you go get the filet mignon nuggets in catupiry sauce. OMG. And enough for six people! I ate about a third and they were able to take the remainder to hungry girls upstairs.
I'the say on balance the girls here are just as pretty as Scan and a bit less expensive. But surely less selection and the vibe is monotone — that is, all you have is the supper club. At Scan you can match your mood. You have the restaurant, the dance club, two terraces. It's just way bigger and way more flexible to your mood.
So on balance Scan will win hands down every time. But if you want to mix it up a bit it's a solid choice. You won't likely be disappointed.
After dinner and some more drinks a girl comes to sit with me who is VERY pretty. I had fended off several others but I let her stay. She speaks no English but my Porto is sufficient for this context. After a bit of chat it's off to the room.
Good solid experience in the room though nothing to write home about. I don't recall but guessing I didn't cum since I say farewell to my friend and head to Scan. It must have surely been early still or I woulda gone to Casarao where K would have gladly barebacked me.
Scan as always is a blast but I clearly make an error in judgment in my selection as you will see.
I really don't recall arriving or if I cruised around much (writing this up a week late since it was kinda meh). I finally end up at a table in the club with the girl my friend talked to a lot on night 2. Her name is Karen. She seems quite a nice girl with marginally good English. She's quite heavily tatted but I don't mind. As many times as I've been to Brazil, I now find it sexy.
We talk about how she knew I was with M and she wanted to be respectful. But now that M has gone home, she's excited to be with me. Things are warming up when Clara (aka problem child) arrives. She was in my original Miami girl drinking crew (late joiner) and she seems nice enough so I invite her to join.
I'm not picking up on the vibe but in retrospect I think Karen wasn't pleased. But at the time Clara was just a new friend. Well that friend starts getting very friendly and has her hand massaging my dick right there in front of the stage. I must been a bit lit because I put Karen's hand there too and she obliges. Feels pretty great at the time but in retrospect I was forcing things and Clara was really drunk.
Eventually we all three go to the room but it ends up being very odd and basically a bust. Karen is showering and so Clara gives me a BJ. It's not very good and it's way too fast. I try to slow her down several times but she just keeps jack hammering. I HATE that. Girls think hammering you is going to get it done fast. For me it's the opposite. It's so unsexy she could do it till the rooster crows and I'the still be just sitting there asking her to slow down!
After a bit, Karen steps out of the shower and waves me in. OK so I join her. At first it's just some nice soap up but then she starts sucking my dick in the shower. This goes on for a little and we return to the room only to find Clara sleeping in the fetal position!
Long story short Karen manages to finish me despite the dead girl adjacent. We actually leave her in the room at the end of our time! I complain at the hotel checkout and she calls the manager buts it like ten minutes so I say fuck it. Forget about it. It's only 1000 R and I made a bad choice.
Fast forward to the next day I get a super nice long apology from Clara on Whatsapp and she says she will fully refund my money. Class move. I tell her 500 R is fine. It takes a couple days for the girls to get paid (used a card) but sure enough I get it back from Karen a few days later (who I guess got the full amount and is supposed to give the other girl her share.).
So that was a bit of a clusterfuck, but partly on me. Both the club and the girl showed some integrity. And that was the end of a less than stellar night 3 at Scandallo. Just goes to show Scan is only 98% awesome. You can have a dud night from time to time. And sometimes it's your fault.