Manila

[QUOTE=Goferring;2913763]The way I've always put it is that Asia tends to exaggerate someone's personality. The guy who some times has a few too many will drink himself to death. The guy in a power trip will be screaming at a 150 p a day waitress because his steak isn't cooked to his liking. The introvert will disappear to the boonies, never to be seen again. And, yes, the desperate and dateless will be complaining about how stuck up the stunners are. Most of us have seen all of the above.

Yes, the ripoffs and disastrous break ups make the news but they are definitely the vocal minority. 99% of the time it's his fault anyway because of leading with his wallet or being incredibly gullible. Most guys who have been here for a while know many others who put some effort into finding the right girl and have lived happily ever after, often for decades. I'm no saint but guys who only know friends who are bar flies and girls who are hookers really need to look at their choices rather than blaming their surroundings. 😁.

Rant off. 😜.

G.[/QUOTE]I don't post much anymore, not out of lack of interest but because I think most of the regular contributors here cover the waterfront accurately and I have nothing of interest to add. However, the above resonated with me because, after more than two decades of living here, I think I've witnessed the full spectrum of expat behavior.

The most frequent laments I hear from foreigners is, as referenced above, the bitterness of those guys who were once convinced that the bargirl they hired for a few nights was, in the end, only interested in their money, a shocker I know. And the most frequent response to urging caution from those of us who have been here for a while, is some variation of: "I hear what you're saying, but she's different and we're in love. " I've given up trying to warn newbies. In fact, I've given up meeting them at all, given their tone deafness. I do continue to get frequent requests for advice on the best avenues to pursue for finding a "real" girlfriend, or a "true love. " My advice, frequently given and seldom heeded, is to stop looking in bars, in online pay for play "dating" sites and quick hookup bars. For those actually looking for long-term relationships, there are abundant opportunities to establish satisfying, long-term relationships with wonderful women, but the search cannot be conducted in bars, and there chances of finding such relationship as a two week warrior are scant.

GE.

I think it was called Fly The Bus pick you up at the hotel in Manila and then drop you off at your hotel in AC. Does this service still run and if so can someone remind what hotel you leave from in Manila.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2913869]but the search cannot be conducted in bars, and there chances of finding such relationship as a two week warrior are scant.

GE.[/QUOTE]Many don't even wait for the plane to leave for the two weeks but start sending a truck load of cash before even meeting. That's not the girl or Philippines' fault. Shit, for the price of a house, I'd say I love him too. 😍.

G.

[QUOTE=ChrisLong;2913912]I think it was called Fly The Bus pick you up at the hotel in Manila and then drop you off at your hotel in AC. Does this service still run and if so can someone remind what hotel you leave from in Manila.[/QUOTE]Was it at the (former?) Southern Cross Hotel in Ermita? It used to run twice a day. Don't think its operated in some years now. Alternately some of us have talked up the Genesis bus, departing hourly from NAIA terminal 3, starting around 2 am to 7 pm. Bus runs direct to SM Clark, without stopping for pickups / dropoffs. Light traffic = 90 minutes, heavy traffic longer. Price is about p400, and return from SM Clark to T3 is also hourly. Have taken it several times. No CR on the bus. Google 'Genesis bus NAIA' for more info. Also search in the Phils threads on 'Genesis'. You will need to taxi from your NCR hotel to the airport to pick up the bus. I think it departs T3 at stall 13 or 14.

Once at SM Clark your choices to get to your AC hotel are: Walk; tryke (p150 mafia); or taxi (p300 mafia); have done all three.

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Hotel-2-hotel private cars are also available, p3500, contact BeeWay Travel (Google it for their website, or their FB presence you can PM).

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2913938]Once at SM Clark your choices to get to your AC hotel are: Walk; tryke (p150 mafia); or taxi (p300 mafia); have done all three.[/QUOTE]Another option is to use Grab.

Not certain if Grab can pick you up in front of the Genesis stop. I am guessing they can since it's in front of the mall.

Can't stand the transport mafia. Last year, I paid 292 pesos for a Grab ride from SM's BDO to all the way to Porac.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2913869]I don't post much anymore, not out of lack of interest but because I think most of the regular contributors here cover the waterfront accurately and I have nothing of interest to add. However, the above resonated with me because, after more than two decades of living here, I think I've witnessed the full spectrum of expat behavior.

The most frequent laments I hear from foreigners is, as referenced above, the bitterness of those guys who were once convinced that the bargirl they hired for a few nights was, in the end, only interested in their money, a shocker I know. And the most frequent response to urging caution from those of us who have been here for a while, is some variation of: "I hear what you're saying, but she's different and we're in love. " I've given up trying to warn newbies. In fact, I've given up meeting them at all, given their tone deafness. I do continue to get frequent requests for advice on the best avenues to pursue for finding a "real" girlfriend, or a "true love. " My advice, frequently given and seldom heeded, is to stop looking in bars, in online pay for play "dating" sites and quick hookup bars. For those actually looking for long-term relationships, there are abundant opportunities to establish satisfying, long-term relationships with wonderful women, but the search cannot be conducted in bars, and there chances of finding such relationship as a two week warrior are scant.

GE.[/QUOTE]Good to hear from you, GE. You were certainly helpful to me. I live in Negros now. Cheers, buddy.

[QUOTE=KbNagar;2911241]All.

I hear the season between June to November is bad in PH due to rains. How is monegring scene? Any experiences to share?[/QUOTE]The locals don't seem to mind.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2913869]I don't post much anymore, not out of lack of interest but because I think most of the regular contributors here cover the waterfront accurately and I have nothing of interest to add. However, the above resonated with me because, after more than two decades of living here, I think I've witnessed the full spectrum of expat behavior.

The most frequent laments I hear from foreigners is, as referenced above, the bitterness of those guys who were once convinced that the bargirl they hired for a few nights was, in the end, only interested in their money, a shocker I know. And the most frequent response to urging caution from those of us who have been here for a while, is some variation of: "I hear what you're saying, but she's different and we're in love. " I've given up trying to warn newbies. In fact, I've given up meeting them at all, given their tone deafness. I do continue to get frequent requests for advice on the best avenues to pursue for finding a "real" girlfriend, or a "true love. " My advice, frequently given and seldom heeded, is to stop looking in bars, in online pay for play "dating" sites and quick hookup bars. For those actually looking for long-term relationships, there are abundant opportunities to establish satisfying, long-term relationships with wonderful women, but the search cannot be conducted in bars, and there chances of finding such relationship as a two week warrior are scant.

GE.[/QUOTE]I have been with several hundreds of working girls over the past five decades from all over the world. I believe such experience is a very good teacher. In 2015 I met a girl on DIA who I treated like a GF she me as a BF. She had a normal job. The relationship could have been graduated but did not for logistical reasons. I think true love can be found on dating sites but one has to have ones eyes open which, I think, may be a challenge to young newbies.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2913869]I don't post much anymore, not out of lack of interest but because I think most of the regular contributors here cover the waterfront accurately and I have nothing of interest to add. However, the above resonated with me because, after more than two decades of living here, I think I've witnessed the full spectrum of expat behavior.

The most frequent laments I hear from foreigners is, as referenced above, the bitterness of those guys who were once convinced that the bargirl they hired for a few nights was, in the end, only interested in their money, a shocker I know. And the most frequent response to urging caution from those of us who have been here for a while, is some variation of: "I hear what you're saying, but she's different and we're in love. " I've given up trying to warn newbies. In fact, I've given up meeting them at all, given their tone deafness. I do continue to get frequent requests for advice on the best avenues to pursue for finding a "real" girlfriend, or a "true love. " My advice, frequently given and seldom heeded, is to stop looking in bars, in online pay for play "dating" sites and quick hookup bars..[/QUOTE]Agreed. After years of coming there 2 week warriors have no chance of a good girl, love or a GF. Well I guess nothing is absolute but its rare. Bar girls and online ones are out, why? They've already had too much exposure to western men. Don't ever believe the oh honey I never stay in touch with previous customers, oh really, may I see your phone? Online is definitely out Go's Go's maybe, try this. Talk to a mamasun is anyone new, why yes, three as she picks them out. Girl A I buy a drink and after some chit chat I inquire are you new, yes sir, new from the province, first bar. Oh that's great you had any luck so far??A little just two barfines, immediately go to bathroom and say nice talking to you. Try girl be and see if no barfines you may have a winner. Can she lie, yes but most like telling you or you can ask the mamasun. I've gotten a few good ones this way and spent a week with them. They were very nice, problem is you must leave and when you do she will be corrupted. Met one like that before, saw her again 6 months later on my return, she was not the same. The sweetness and innocents was gone, oh well that's how it goes. You want a good one and keep her as GF, I see no way but to live there. Meantime just party and have fun. When retired or living there you can try this method in bars or search the country side. Are there good ones, plenty, but they cannot have exposer to other westerners, if so occasionally you'll be dealing with the hey baby I'm in town lets visit, and that you cannot trust, no matter what she tells you. If you liked her, rest assured someone else does too.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2914597]Agreed. After years of coming there 2 week warriors have no chance of a good girl, love or a GF. Well I guess nothing is absolute but its rare. Bar girls and online ones are out, why? They've already had too much exposure to western men. [/QUOTE]Agree Locamotive and also with the other gents. Great posts to educate the inquisitive first time travelers. I am a two week warrior, only because of my business back at home. I try to combine work and play whenever I return which is very frequently, especially post-covid. Thankfully I've compiled a good list of contacts now and only one is a bar girl, and that's a girl who worked in a sports bar as opposed to a go go. Generally I've discovered my girls via hotel staff or even the niece of a taxi driver. Sure they're not all 10 out of 10 in the looks department, but either am I and they're all pretty genuine and don't attempt to empty my wallet from afar. It's surprising how many guys I meet in the departure lounge or the airport smoko area after a two week romp who are convinced they've met the love of their life in a go go bar. All are first timers to the PH. I don't have the heart to let them down gently. They'll work it out _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2914906]Thankfully I've compiled a good list of contacts now and only one is a bar girl, [/QUOTE]Don't dismiss hookers as unpaid girlfriends too quickly. If both parties go in with their eyes open and the right attitude, they can be great times. Enjoy while you are in town and don't ask, don't tell about what happens while you are away. Its hard to go past a skilled operator who actually wants to be there.

30 years later, I still have great memories of mine and am pissed at the guy who decided to save her by marrying her and wisking her off to suburbia. I'm sure that worked out well. 😜.

Its a shame I'm too old and fat for that now. 😞.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2910131]Good list. You forgot 'Sick kalabaw'. The question becomes: Is she really having this emergency? Or does she really want the money to buy snacks and Empi for her pinoy boyfie?[/QUOTE]If I may add.

"Grandma / Grandpa / Unlce / Aunty passed away and need money for funeral".

" I have to pawn my phone to pay rent, I won't be able to talk to you for a while".

"I need to pay my tuition fee and I will do anything for you in return".

"My mom / dad is in hospital and I don't have the funds for their surgery or they will die".

"I am pregnant and my boyfriend left me and I don't have money to give birth".

[QUOTE=Zippos;2915311]....."I need to pay my tuition fee and I will do anything for you in return"......[/QUOTE]Why have I never been told this? Lucky you.

[QUOTE=Zippos;2915311]If I may add.

"Grandma / Grandpa / Unlce / Aunty passed away and need money for funeral".

" I have to pawn my phone to pay rent, I won't be able to talk to you for a while".

"I need to pay my tuition fee and I will do anything for you in return".

"My mom / dad is in hospital and I don't have the funds for their surgery or they will die".

"I am pregnant and my boyfriend left me and I don't have money to give birth".[/QUOTE]The one I've heard more than once. I'm hungry haven't eaten in 2 days I am starving.

[QUOTE=HotelAl;2915449]The one I've heard more than once. I'm hungry haven't eaten in 2 days I am starving.[/QUOTE]They count 2 days as not eaten since dinner last night if you catch them in the morning. So they don't mean 48 h they mean less than 7 h-10 h and all of that non-eating time was sleeping.