Pattaya Reports

I walked Beach Road Monday night to find one of my usual contacts (long time THB 1,000), at 9 pm there was an amazing selection all the way from the Hilton to Walking Street. I've never seen so many, nor so many high quality choices. But as I made the return trip around 11 pm there was a police presence underway and the girls were laying low. Not gone, clusters of girls sitting in groups on the beach or across the street, but no ladies standing in position along Beach Road. I saw about eight police officers near the entrance to Walking Street, not really doing much, just standing around, but apparently they were near the end of their journey.

My usual contact told me she leaves Beach Road at 11 pm as lately there is sure to be some police coming by. This on the heels of the article I read in the Sunday Bangkok Post about reducing this type of action in both Bangkok and Pattaya. Now 7 pm and I'm heading out again, I expect the selection to be back to normal. If not, or if I witness another police action I'll post.

Any massage centers offer lingham massage in pattaya.

[QUOTE=AcidBurns;1910808]Any massage centers offer lingham massage in pattaya.[/QUOTE]You are kidding. Right?

[QUOTE=Ee2002;1909903]Damn, I've been reading these threads a lot more in recent months (stopped logging on regularly about 6 years ago) and didn't realize how high the prices are in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Can you please define what you consider high prices, because you have have obviously had some prior experience, and I'm trying to get my trip to LOS in October.

Note that in the past 9 months, I have mongered in Berlin and Medellin. In Berlin, I never paid more that 90 Euro for an hour (though 100 or higher is more the standard. I'm a value shopper). In the Casas of Medellin I paid from 60,000 to 160,000 COP for an hour (that's around $20 - $50 USD). I realize prices are a moving target, but would be curious about what you consider to be fair.

The prices are more or less similar when you get to the bottom of it. The cheapest I have had is in Athens where there are options available even for 10 & 20 Euro. Across other European nations like Germany, Amsterdam, Brussels, etc a quick one would be 50 Euro and may go upto 100. Even Indonesia was pretty cheap in comparison.

LOS was great value for money and the experience was more GFE than mechanical. An average price for ST would range around 1000 to 1500 Baht and LT around 2000 to2500 baht. Rest depends on how good the girl is, where you meet her and how drunk you are when you take a decision.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1911368]Can you please define what you consider high prices, because you have have obviously had some prior experience, and I'm trying to get my trip to LOS in October.

Note that in the past 9 months, I have mongered in Berlin and Medellin. In Berlin, I never paid more that 90 Euro for an hour (though 100 or higher is more the standard. I'm a value shopper). In the Casas of Medellin I paid from 60,000 to 160,000 COP for an hour (that's around $20 - $50 USD). I realize prices are a moving target, but would be curious about what you consider to be fair.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1911368]Can you please define what you consider high prices, because you have have obviously had some prior experience, and I'm trying to get my trip to LOS in October.

Note that in the past 9 months, I have mongered in Berlin and Medellin. In Berlin, I never paid more that 90 Euro for an hour (though 100 or higher is more the standard. I'm a value shopper). In the Casas of Medellin I paid from 60,000 to 160,000 COP for an hour (that's around $20 - $50 USD). I realize prices are a moving target, but would be curious about what you consider to be fair.[/QUOTE]Pricewise, the bottom of the market is with the streetwalkers of Beach Road: 500 to 1000 baht (USD 15 to 30) for one pop or max 2 hours (whatever comes first) plus the cost of a short time hotel unless you bring her to your hotel.

Next up are the Soi 6 bars: standard price of 1000 baht for her and 300 baht for the room (thinly disguised as a "barfine") plus some drink, or in total about 1500 baht (USD 45) for one pop.

You take your chances with the quality at these levels, but good sessions can be had in Soi 6 if you don't mind the sometimes rather down-market surroundings.

[QUOTE=Haven123;1894664]I feel kinda bad that you did not score at Insomnia.

So, a couple of thoughts for you, BECAUSE it takes about 3 nights and at least about 12-15 hours to figure out the girls....[/QUOTE]Thank you for the insightful info. And thanks to Kumbu for his report of his experience there, bad and good.

I have never spent any time there, just poked my head in the door there once (What do you mean I can't take my umbrella in?). And haven't spent much time in Lucifer Disko either. I thought they were too crowded for my taste, and I am not a disco dancer guy.

I also expected that it gets "happening" late, and I generally wanted to be in my room with company by 2 am. But I also realize that I am missing out on good stuff.

Once when I was heading back to my room in the Grand Hotel at 2:30 am, I passed 3 girls that I had seen dancing at an LK Metro gogo earlier that night. They were heading to walking street to freelance after their shift, I figured, but I was too spent to follow. I will try the nap at 9 pm suggestion, and definitely give Insomnia another try now.

I appreciate the advice I have read here. (I lurked awhile) and I know my game could use a lot of improvement.
Thanks everyone!

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1911475]Pricewise, the bottom of the market is with the streetwalkers of Beach Road: 500 to 1000 baht (USD 15 to 30) for one pop or max 2 hours (whatever comes first) plus the cost of a short time hotel unless you bring her to your hotel.[/QUOTE]Actually the bottom of the market is the crack shacks. 200 baht.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1911549]Actually the bottom of the market is the crack shacks. 200 baht.[/QUOTE]Or the down-on-their-luck ladyboys at the beach who will gve you a BBBJ on the spot for whatever you throw at them.

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Thanks for your feedback, guys. That helps. I am just more than a bit put off by the concept of a bar fine and marked up lady drinks. Can't see myself paying it, even if money was no object. Guess it will be freelancers for me, and I have read up a bit about venues where freelance girls work beside the street. Those prices are not bad at all from my Western perspective. But, I can understand if some old hands are disappointed by what they say is a declining experience and higher cost.

I do go to other sources for info on Pattaya, such as youtube and noticed Pattaya has its share of massage parlors. One vblogger commented that the MPs put the price signs for the various services out front during the day, but the signs are gone in the evening. I am curious if there is any value there as well, or if the "upsells" for additional services just make this false economy. Any comments on those?

Funny, I do read posts from people who complain about rising prices in Thailand, and are opting for Cambodia or Laos. However, a brief look at travel costs to those places, and other related costs ($35 just to enter your country?) would appear to again result in false economy? Or am I missing something there?

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1911840]I do go to other sources for info on Pattaya, such as youtube and noticed Pattaya has its share of massage parlors. One vblogger commented that the MPs put the price signs for the various services out front during the day, but the signs are gone in the evening. I am curious if there is any value there as well, or if the "upsells" for additional services just make this false economy. Any comments on those?[/QUOTE]Massage places advertise prices of between 200 to 400 baht for one or two hours of "oil" massage.

Of course that price does not include any of the naughty services. Those you negotiate directly with the girl. The price for the massage you pay to the house and is - more or less - their form of barfine.

I too used to be upset by the concepts of barfine and ladydrinks, until I realized it doesn't matter. Just add up all the costs (your drinks, her drinks, price for the room or barfine or massage costs, her fees, . . .) and then decide. "Cheap" and "expensive" at first sight may be really different when you look at the whole.

For instance, a Beach Road freelancer may be cheap and you pay no barfine, but you have to pay for a ST hotel room unless you bring her to your hotel room which may be more far away so you need a taxi to get there. If would not be fair to the Soi 6 girls not to include the ST room costs or taxi-fare to your hotel and even the extra time you spent in getting there when comparing total prices. And it wouldn't be the first time a freelancer asks you to buy some food or drinks for her. Sometimes they don't even have condoms with them, so you have to add those too.

And when picking up freelancers from discos and such, you better bring an accountant with you to keep tabs on all the extra costs!

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1911840]Thanks for your feedback, guys. That helps. I am just more than a bit put off by the concept of a bar fine and marked up lady drinks. Can't see myself paying it, even if money was no object.[/QUOTE]I can't imagine paying them myself either. As a matter of fact I just met a chick online. She said she is a bar girl. I said okay. Maybe you can come stay with me one night. She asked me to come pay the bar fine. I said no. You can just come after work. She said okay. You are smart.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1911840]I do go to other sources for info on Pattaya, such as youtube and noticed Pattaya has its share of massage parlors. One vblogger commented that the MPs put the price signs for the various services out front during the day, but the signs are gone in the evening.[/QUOTE]Maybe that was an old post. At most massage places the prices are printed on the windows. To be clear, in general a massage parlor is just a massage parlor and extras can not be guaranteed, unless you are at certain sex shops that are open under the guise of massage parlors.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1911840]Funny, I do read posts from people who complain about rising prices in Thailand, and are opting for Cambodia or Laos. However, a brief look at travel costs to those places, and other related costs ($35 just to enter your country?) would appear to again result in false economy? Or am I missing something there?[/QUOTE]You are indeed missing something. It actually costs to get into or leave out of every country, but the price is usually included in your ticket and the airline passes the money on to the proper government authorities.

Hey,

Had 2 nights layover in Thailand while returning from China. Thought of taking full advantage of it and head to Pattaya for the layover. Was waiting in immigration. Long line fellas took me almost 3 hours to clear immigration but gave me enough time to research on the place to stay in Pattaya. Booked VT6 near Central mall considering all the good reviews of the place.

Completed Immigration came to the fourth floor as per the advice of seniors and caught a taxi dropping off passengers and heading back to Pattaya for 900 B. VT6 condo was every bit as advertised huge room with spacious balcony and modern interiors. Settled down comfortably it was around 9 had something to eat and slept off keeping an alarm of 12 . Headed down to WS could see loads of banner for the early morning marathon. Did not give it any thoughts. Headed to Tonys Disco on a friends recommendation and boy was it good. Huge Spacious floor with ample sitting place and tables everywhere, they charge a entry of 250 b which can be redeemed for a drink (not bad considering all the gogos around want me to buy a drink first and then get inside).

Found a empty corner and sat down sipping my beer music was mostly Indian with some Arabic songs interspersed. Was on my third drink when saw a beauty down near the DJ console. Held my bottle up to her said salud, she found that to be funny and came over. We spoke for some time I bought her a drink a tequila to be specific.

I told her that I want her for LT only and not looking for ST she said 2000 b for the same we agreed on the condition that we will take a room upstairs (200 b) come back after we have shagged once and then party some more and go back to my room. She was okay with it.

We went to the room and started talking. And man can she talk. It was like seeing a mirror image of myself we were chattering for about 45 minutes when the receptionist knocked telling time was almost up (Who does that) we laughed loudly at this and I told her to take bath. She undressed in front of me and whoa was that a sight to behold. Shiny White Skin, Slim Waist juicy lips and supple tits. Guys that why bad boys go to Pattaya! LOL.

I joined her in the shower cleaned her with my tongue. We were kissing madly when she pushed me aside and asked me to come on the bed. I carried her there and had one of the most passionate sex I have ever had. I still perspire thinking of that wow.

Anyhow we dressed paid something extra to the receptionist and came back partying. Around 2 30 they closed down the disco saying that cops have asked them to I am not sure why some said it was because of the marathon some say because of immigration I did not bother asking.

We came out and she took me to the beach just opposite the first 7/11 outside of WS. It was quite romantic and eerily erotic I always wanted to try it on the beach but did not like to have sand in my butt but what the hell I was game for it. We were kissing each other my hands exploring her body when suddenly a group of 5-6 students I don know they were quite young came on the same spot. They must have been crazy drunk I tell you cause they went skinny diving at 4 am on a beach which was for a loss of better words Dirty. Anyhow it was fun watching them (girls included).

I Smiled at NUT yeah that was her name and I just told her lets call it a day. We went to my room had some of that tasty German I want to get high shit (jagermeister) were fully sloshed went to sleep with both of us naked.

Got up around 11 she was still sleeping my hands were exploring her body she stirred gave me a smile and took my tool in her hand gave me a sloppy BJ. Morning BJS are the best, Slipped on a condom and drilled her in missionary came in about 10 minutes.

Took her out to a Indian restaurant for breakfast. Paid her around 3000 b for the whole amazing experience. Have taken her number will meet her when I am going back to China during the month of September (will ensure at least a 5 day layover).

Cheers

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1911942]

And when picking up freelancers from discos and such, you better bring an accountant with you to keep tabs on all the extra costs![/QUOTE]I'm sorry, but at least in Pattaya, IMO and in my experience, that statement / conclusion is utter, total BS.

People who prefer GOGO girls, and who like to point and click, may not like the extra, time, work etc that a Club like Insomnia requires. I only buy a drink after I have a deal. No need at all to buy before, unless you want to party with a a girl there for several hours.

And there are no other costs after, unless you wish to extend and keep a girl for days. Which I have done, because I just wanted to.

IMO, lazy folks, folks who have limited or no game, or those that just want purely sex and nothing else, will never really like a place like Insomnia. And that bull about needing an accountant is nothing but crap pulled out of one's behind.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1911954]
You are indeed missing something. It actually costs to get into or leave out of every country, but the price is usually included in your ticket and the airline passes the money on to the proper government authorities.[/QUOTE]The air ticket doesn't include visa costs, be it only a stamp on the passport.

Airport taxes include a whole variety of services, such as baggage handling, security checks, etc. But do not include the immigration services.

These are provided by the government.

Of course, very creative government decided that lifting 10 or 30 or 50 bucks for a "visa" is a nice wwy for them to turn immigration services from a cost center into a profit center.

All of a sudden, at the simple rate of 10 $ per visitor, at a rate of one every 3 minutes, each agent can generate 200 $ an hour income. Not bad. And 10 $ is very conservative.