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No Contest
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3034828]"A learning curve", man my school days are far behind me and nor was I ever a good learner LOL. I also read somewhere that I needed to "build my Facebook" by adding 5 girls everyday to reach "critical mass" of 600 girls in Medellin. Then things will happen smoothly. Too much work and time and energy. Plus need to learn Spanish to get by. Also Medellin girls are never on time they arrive hours later than appointment. I think the only thing is you're saving money because Colombia is cheaper and you get stuff for 50-70 as compared to 200 in scandallo. But Brazil has those clinicas where you can find a diamond in the rough for that budget.
I'the much rather just go to scandallo and pick a girl out of the hundreds available. Do the deed and move on with my life. No learning curve, no Portuguese just beautiful girls with great service. I know you say Medellin girls provide great service but scandallo service is not bad either, I think over analyzing these minuscule improvements in service quality has diminishing returns.[/QUOTE]Just say it out loud. Anyone who's been both places know Medellin sucks compared to SP. La Isla? Not even in same universe. Don't get me wrong, I had a good time with Facebook girls — much easier than you make it sound. But it's still no contest. Again the only people who say it is haven't been to both places. (Or don't like the nightclub scene).
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[QUOTE=Nounce;3034727]That list is very YMMV and can be a real tourist trap compared to Scandallo. More attractive girls can make money by offering limited service, like CBJ so you are "priced out" if you want BBBJ. This is just an example, and basically bad influence.
There is a learning curve for an average person who wants better sex. There two are over 18 but still in high school. These is no restriction to what I want. Whoever they bring is the same. 2 hours or more for about 50-70 each. I have no problem whenever they want to bring friend. The new girl always ask for 50 and I don't have to negotiate. Once they are influenced by money, things will be different.
To provide some context, I am looking for better sex, not number so I become very familiar with the girls that I see because I see them so often[/QUOTE]So these girls are in fact semi pros? How you managed to get in contact with them.
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Scandallo report
Visited this week in SP, whoa what a great time.
I visited the palms for the first time, was shown the iPad 8 girls available, I chose Lola. They made me wait in the room for a while like 30 mins, then she comes in much older than iPad pics. Her service was bad. Preventing penetration and rushed. I paid her 800 and she cheated saying I had to pay outside. I complained they returned money from her. Complete disaster.
Next scandallo, first girl slim petite white silicon tits beautiful face great service 1200.
Second girl, Fernanda fantastic service 1000. Really awesome.
Third girl, white skin pretty face but had a botched boob job with ugly scars 1200. BBBJ was sloppy and great on the positive.
Fourth one, Ana she was my regular, great service 1300.
Fifth, I talked to her at the bar, white skin, single tattoo on her shoulder brunette. 1200.
Sixth, blonde hair German look a bit older she lied about her age LOL I felt used. Much curvy and thicker once the clothes were off 1100.
The service is good in scandallo, but I miss the FKKs where these shenanigans of boob scars and fatties popping their tits using push up bra can be avoided. On the flip side, in FKKs, even though girl looks flawless naked, I'm always scared service will be a disaster.
Couple of mishaps in scandallo, I went to room with a girl after negotiating she blurted to her friend in Portuguese that she won't provide kissing for the price to me behind my back, in the room she demanded money up front and I said no and walked out. She was pretty mad.
A girl looked beautiful but her voice was so deep, I fled, bet she has a dick down there.
The girls are a bit pushy sometimes almost begging for money, I expect more from a classy place like scandallo.
My god the way some girls dress holy shii. She was wearing a yellow dress backless and so down cut hugging her silicon tits. Amazing.
Portuguese language barrier killed the mood. I feel like I can't connect to the girl and sex feels mechanical and transactional.
Now with that out of the way let's talk about the best parts of the trip -.
I went to DOM - 2 star Michelin native Brazilian ingredients. The 12 course tasting menu was worth $200 USD.
I strolled around Japanese neighborhood of Liberdade, man it was great, they brought Japan to SP with Anime collectibles, Japanese immigration museum was pretty neat, the best one I guess for this trip. Japanese garden with coy fish and amazing Ramen with tempura ice cream. I had a great time.
Strolled around Oscar Freire. Pretty good restaurants, tried Thaitea from recs here it was ok but Tartufaria Italian was pretty nice.
Also ate at Sushimar decent meal.
Also went to futbol museum bunch of school kids on a trip, pretty boring.
Also went to ibirapuera park and free museum there, was not bad schools kids here too.
Verdict. I had more fun outside scandallo then inside. I guess just being hunted like a prey in a totally foreign country with people talking behind your back in a foreign language isn't that much fun.
I did 3 trips back to back in the past 4 months to scandallo and I probably need to stop mongering LOL, it's mentally starting to get to me. Lately feeling I'm paying money but it's not making my life better. Just making me more anxious. It started out as hey this is an amazing way a man can treat himself be it FKK or scandallo or something else. But these fatties, oldies and uggos are annoying with their scams and photo shops and price haggling and poor service quality. Anyone else feel me on this? Spending a lot of money and flying back breaking 15 HR red eye flights on a completely unnecessary not required activity, you won't die if you don't fuck. This time I did actually have business in SP but previous 2 trips were solely mongering, full disclosure.
Traveling was my original hobby and after visiting 30 countries, I'm done with that. Then it became mongering, now I'm done with that too. What's next? I think I'm going to pick up fine dining as my new hobby, sampling Michelin stars around the world as a way to treat to myself.
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Eating Out
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3035241]Traveling was my original hobby and after visiting 30 countries, I'm done with that. Then it became mongering, now I'm done with that too. What's next? I think I'm going to pick up fine dining as my new hobby, sampling Michelin stars around the world as a way to treat to myself.[/QUOTE]I'm a lot like you, only I'm up to 50+ countries and have a few more I want to visit. I have traveled all my life, and was thrilled to bring mongering into the mix at a time when I had the opportunity and could afford it. But now, seeing how much that the hobby has declined around the world, I'm about as happy to eat out at a good restaurant as I am to eat out a good tute, provided I can still find one with relative ease! LOLOLOL! You know what they say. The older you get, the more you enjoy a good meal over a good fuck! I feel like I might be moving in the same direction as you. Things. People. They change.
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When I started mongering, it was just about the point and shoot but over the years, service and chemistry become much more important. I now understand why guys like to have a girl overnight or go on long dates. I agree its an absolute must to learn the language to fully enjoy Brazil. Without it, you might have good sex but can't fully pre / post sex dopamine connect. Though ultimately, I believe like with all things in life, the hedonistic treadmill happens and we always go back to baseline. Best thing to do is to take breaks to reset baseline. 3 times in 4 months is quite a lot.
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3035241]Visited this week in SP, whoa what a great time.
Portuguese language barrier killed the mood. I feel like I can't connect to the girl and sex feels mechanical and transactional.
Verdict. I had more fun outside scandallo then inside. I guess just being hunted like a prey in a totally foreign country with people talking behind your back in a foreign language isn't that much fun.
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[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3035241]VThey made me wait in the room for a while like 30 mins, then she comes in much older than iPad pics. Her service was bad. [/QUOTE]Many if not most high-end clinicas expect you to shower before the girl comes. At Palms, you can interview and reject her in the room and make another choice. I mentioned it in my post. If helps here if you can speak to the owner. HIgh-end clinicas can be a gamble. Brazil is great but it is still number representing better ratio than most.
I also mentioned one good name, so one can fall back to her if one does not like the rejection. I encourage we all do that. LOL.
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3035241] sampling Michelin stars around the world as a way to treat to myself.[/QUOTE]
Done that. Nowadays I am seeking out up niche restaurants run by mostly younger people that are more well-known in the neighborhood and not from the magazines or ranking. There are many in Sao Paulo.
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SP Grand Prix week
Gents, I'll be in SP next week (Grand Prix week) thanks to all the awesome reports on this board. I plan to hit up the Scan and Casarao.
Hit me up on a private if you wish to hang.
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[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3034828]"A learning curve", man my school days are far behind me and nor was I ever a good learner .[/QUOTE]The reason I mentioned price is to provide another data point for you because the OP mentioned price. The list is only good for someone who is not demanding if I am direct about it. Loutron is the most expensive with limited service if that is what the "best" represents. La Isla used to be much better and the service from staff is on par with Scandallo to a single guest. It's not as luxurious with not as many girls. But all you need is one girl, not 200, La Isla is more than appropriate to find quality on par based on my own experience. After COVID, it went thru a remodel like Scandallo, the clientele changed, everything went down hill with the change.
You are where I was many years ago. It's about in control of your money to get the value you want. I am no longer interested in point and click, 30 minutes or 1 hour limit. I enjoy long sex that sometimes can last until the girl is tired. I don't have a finish line. I count time (hours) and I don't want girls that count times (finishes). I like long blow jobs. The smaller or lighter girls have better stamina to do cow girls, and it is easier to find them in Colombia. My approach is similar to Tochka. He has the party in a love motel. I have it in my apartment. I have an adjustable sex chair and similar stuff he mentioned with a typical great view of the city. The sex chair is great for taking video when you fck them. I got messages from girls every day, I pick who I want to see. I choose who wants me (my money), not the other way around. I am in control of what I get and what I spent.
The sexuality oozes out of this girl. I talked to her the day before around 10:30 PM. She told me she was going to sleep. She said she was living a healthy life. She quitted drug and stuff. We will need to use condom when having sex again. Haha. This is what she sent me the next day. She told me she would do everything I want. She came, jump on top of me and almost ate me alive. Next thing she told me was she would stay until next morning, let's go get some party flavors. LOL. I set my Uber to the pharmacy in the Barrio. She was all over me in the Uber. After she got what she wanted, I asked the dealer what better weed he got because the girls always buy the cheap stuff. I understood what the dealer told me. It was expensive relative to the cheap one and the girl thought I did not understand. She pulled out her phone to translate for me. But phone is a no no in this environment with many dealers and she knew it. I made her put her phone away. Again she was all over me on our way back. We could do drive thru, but the driver may extort me for doing what we were doing being a gringo. Before I came, I asked her can I finish inside, she gave me a resounding yes and pulled me toward her.
The generalization about lateness is not correct. I do understand why people say that. It helps if you know how to talk to them if you want to reduce lateness. It does not bother me if the girl is late or does not show up. It becomes my advantage if the girl made mistake. I have plenty of things to do other than sex or waiting. For me forgiving also has it's reward, the sex can be better too. I think it is because that is not how most men react to them when they are late.
The second chat is with a new girl, 18 yr old. She overslept and did not show up. I told her I would not tip (66%) the next time. She agreed. I always pay in full as long as they show up, occasionally paid without sex. I will resolve the problem the next time they want to see me. Her performance was good from the get go She was dancing naked enjoying herself in front of the mirror, I was standing behind. She pulled me into her from behind to fuck her standing up. Her size is the right size so it was an easy natural fit. That instantly turned me on. She is quite easy to reach orgasm. We moved on to the couch, changed positions a few times, before moving to the sex chair. I went on top, changed position to get some rest and she started to give me a long BBBJ before hoping on top me.
The reason I tipped her besides performance is because she is very stylish and I know she gets much more and getting tips regularly from tourists. A bonus is she has a partner who will turn 18 in 3 weeks. LOL. I "invest" enough to keep her around. The other chat she offered to stay until 10 when she could be in my apartment around 7 so she could go off to make more money from tourists. I did not demand it. I just told her I prefer another night when she has more time because I think she was busy on Friday night / Halloween. I am willing to pay for nothing for something in the future at this price range. I wouldn't do it when it is 200 USD.
[QUOTE=KCK12;3035209]So these girls are in fact semi pros? How you managed to get in contact with them.[/QUOTE]
One common method is Facebook or IG. But I have not sourced from Facebook for a long time now.
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First time in SP
Hello gents, I am excited to visit Sao Paulo in a few weeks, thank you all for the reports here. I have been active in other places in Europe (DE FKKs, Globe, Diva girls in London), and this will be my first time exploring Sao Paulo. From reading the forum, I think I will probably only go to Scandallo, maybe Casarao on a Sunday, and possibly Palms during the day. A few questions for those in the know, as I get ready for my first trip:
Keeping things: I usually have a few things with me when I go to a club, and I use the lockers at FKK clubs, or take a bag with me when I see a Diva girl in London. Some of the things I might have include lots of cash, toothbrush (this is important if I'm eating at Scandallo and expect DFK), condoms, vapes, items to enhance the experience with a girl (oils, toys), sometimes a gopro if I want to record some memories. I can't imagine carrying all this in my pockets but it sounds like there are no lockers at Scandallo, is that true? If so, how do you guys manage, do you just carry a bag, or is there some place to store your things safely when you're not in a room? Even cash can take a lot of space, where do you keep it?
Taboo subjects: I like to be clear on what the girls will do and I sometimes ask them what they do and like / dislike. I have experienced that at some clubs you can ask anything and the girls are unfazed (Globe, some Diva girls) - but at other places like FKK clubs in DE the girls act offended, they tell their friends, and then all the girls are standoffish. Some of my favorite services are DFK, BBBJ, balls-licking, rimming, filming. Are these services that the girls do in Scandallo and other Sao Paulo clubs, and is it ok to ask about them (or do I even need to ask)? Or will asking just get me rejected by these girls?
I plan to stay at the Renaissance. Any issue bring girls there? I would also like to try the Love Motels, and it sounds like the girls can can guide me through that experience. But I can imagine that after a few days, I may just want to brig a girl back to my hotel and relax in the room. If there's anything I should know about managing the situation at the Renaissance, I would appreciate that information.
I plan to spend a bit of money, and I am ok with buying bottles and talking to girls at my table. But I don't like the feeling of being targeted or taken advantage of as a tourist. So, if there's any advice to help me avoid rookie mistakes I would be thankful.
If there are other guys interested in trying Scandallo or other spots with me, let me know in DM. I am an American, happy to hang with other guys that are interested in going in with some company. I will be in SP during the last weekend of November, starting November 22.
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My Thoughts
[QUOTE=NF4591;3035413]Hello gents, I am excited to visit Sao Paulo in a few weeks, thank you all for the reports here. I have been active in other places in Europe (DE FKKs, Globe, Diva girls in London), and this will be my first time exploring Sao Paulo. From reading the forum, I think I will probably only go to Scandallo, maybe Casarao on a Sunday, and possibly Palms during the day. A few questions for those in the know, as I get ready for my first trip:
Keeping things: I usually have a few things with me when I go to a club, and I use the lockers at FKK clubs, or take a bag with me when I see a Diva girl in London. Some of the things I might have include lots of cash, toothbrush (this is important if I'm eating at Scandallo and expect DFK), condoms, vapes, items to enhance the experience with a girl (oils, toys), sometimes a gopro if I want to record some memories. I can't imagine carrying all this in my pockets but it sounds like there are no lockers at Scandallo, is that true? If so, how do you guys manage, do you just carry a bag, or is there some place to store your things safely when you're not in a room? Even cash can take a lot of space, where do you keep it?
Taboo subjects: I like to be clear on what the girls will do and I sometimes ask them what they do and like / dislike. I have experienced that at some clubs you can ask anything and the girls are unfazed (Globe, some Diva girls) - but at other places like FKK clubs in DE the girls act offended, they tell their friends, and then all the girls are standoffish. Some of my favorite services are DFK, BBBJ, balls-licking, rimming, filming. Are these services that the girls do in Scandallo and other Sao Paulo clubs, and is it ok to ask about them (or do I even need to ask)? Or will asking just get me rejected by these girls?
I plan to stay at the Renaissance. Any issue bring girls there? I would also like to try the Love Motels, and it sounds like the girls can can guide me through that experience. But I can imagine that after a few days, I may just want to brig a girl back to my hotel and relax in the room. If there's anything I should know about managing the situation at the Renaissance, I would appreciate that information.
I plan to spend a bit of money, and I am ok with buying bottles and talking to girls at my table. But I don't like the feeling of being targeted or taken advantage of as a tourist. So, if there's any advice to help me avoid rookie mistakes I would be thankful.
If there are other guys interested in trying Scandallo or other spots with me, let me know in DM. I am an American, happy to hang with other guys that are interested in going in with some company. I will be in SP during the last weekend of November, starting November 22.[/QUOTE]Sounds like we roll to similar clubs so I hope my perspective helps. First. Def don't skip Casarao. Yes it's def down market from Scandallo but has a great crowded club bar vibe that is super in it's own way. And I hve pulled some stone cold hotties from there, including one of two 10's I've ever had in my life. As I've said in prior posts a great MO is enjoy the luxe vibe at Scan from 7 to midnight or 1 and take a girl. Then bounce to Casarao for a few hours and take another.
As far as all your stuff, you just need to make it work in your pockets. Ditch the go pro most girls at Scan are semi pro and not down with filming. Make due with your camera if they are. Condoms and money and vape fits in your pockets (been there done that). Yes it's tight but it works. I've never worried about a toothbrush and all brasileiras kiss like demons regardless. Never been an issue.
DFK, BBBJ, ball licking. All standard brasileira services at least at Scan. Filming and rimming less so. Nonetheless these girls have seen it all. If in doubt put it in Google translate. Just doing it that way is more comfortable than chat anyhow.
Rennaisance is 💯 girl friendly but make sure the room is reserved for TWO. And if they make her register it's no big deal. But make sure to UNregister her in the morning if you plan to bring a different girl back. Trying to unregister and reregister at same time might cause extra charges.
You have done things in the right order working ur way up to scandallo. Cuz once u been there the rest dont quite compare. U are ruined for life! 😝
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[QUOTE=NF4591;3035413]Hello gents, I am excited to visit Sao Paulo in a few weeks, thank you all for the reports here. I have been active in other places in Europe (DE FKKs, Globe, Diva girls in London), and this will be my first time exploring Sao Paulo. From reading the forum, I think I will probably only go to Scandallo, maybe Casarao on a Sunday, and possibly Palms during the day. A few questions for those in the know, as I get ready for my first trip:
Keeping things: I usually have a few things with me when I go to a club, and I use the lockers at FKK clubs, or take a bag with me when I see a Diva girl in London. Some of the things I might have include lots of cash, toothbrush (this is important if I'm eating at Scandallo and expect DFK), condoms, vapes, items to enhance the experience with a girl (oils, toys), sometimes a gopro if I want to record some memories. I can't imagine carrying all this in my pockets but it sounds like there are no lockers at Scandallo, is that true? If so, how do you guys manage, do you just carry a bag, or is there some place to store your things safely when you're not in a room? Even cash can take a lot of space, where do you keep it?
Taboo subjects: I like to be clear on what the girls will do and I sometimes ask them what they do and like / dislike. I have experienced that at some clubs you can ask anything and the girls are unfazed (Globe, some Diva girls) - but at other places like FKK clubs in DE the girls act offended, they tell their friends, and then all the girls are standoffish. Some of my favorite services are DFK, BBBJ, balls-licking, rimming, filming. Are these services that the girls do in Scandallo and other Sao Paulo clubs, and is it ok to ask about them (or do I even need to ask)? Or will asking just get me rejected by these girls?
I plan to stay at the Renaissance. Any issue bring girls there? I would also like to try the Love Motels, and it sounds like the girls can can guide me through that experience. But I can imagine that after a few days, I may just want to brig a girl back to my hotel and relax in the room. If there's anything I should know about managing the situation at the Renaissance, I would appreciate that information.
I plan to spend a bit of money, and I am ok with buying bottles and talking to girls at my table. But I don't like the feeling of being targeted or taken advantage of as a tourist. So, if there's any advice to help me avoid rookie mistakes I would be thankful.
If there are other guys interested in trying Scandallo or other spots with me, let me know in DM. I am an American, happy to hang with other guys that are interested in going in with some company. I will be in SP during the last weekend of November, starting November 22.[/QUOTE]So everything that my friend Steve9696 said is spot on and I will add some other things:
1) you can carry a bag with you to Scan. They do have a place to store your stuff while you enjoy your time. When you go to the room, you can take it up with you. I don't know about the go pro. Leave that at home and use in your room. I am not sure about Casarao but if it is a small shoulder bag, I think you will be fine with carrying it in.
2) the girls have heard it all. Tell them what you are looking for and see if they are interested.
3) Renaissance is great. Book the room for two if a regular room and three if you get a suite so you can do threesomes. We stay there all the time and it is in a great area to walk around and find places to eat.
Unfortunately, you are going one week after a whole group of ISGers are heading down. Looks like we will miss each other.
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Budget
[QUOTE=NF4591;3035413]Hello gents, I am excited to visit Sao Paulo in a few weeks, thank you all for the reports here. I have been active in other places in Europe (DE FKKs, Globe, Diva girls in London), and this will be my first time exploring Sao Paulo. From reading the forum, I think I will probably only go to Scandallo, maybe Casarao on a Sunday, and possibly Palms during the day. A few questions for those in the know, as I get ready for my first trip:
Keeping things: I usually have a few things with me when I go to a club, and I use the lockers at FKK clubs, or take a bag with me when I see a Diva girl in London. Some of the things I might have include lots of cash, toothbrush (this is important if I'm eating at Scandallo and expect DFK), condoms, vapes, items to enhance the experience with a girl (oils, toys), sometimes a gopro if I want to record some memories. I can't imagine carrying all this in my pockets but it sounds like there are no lockers at Scandallo, is that true? If so, how do you guys manage, do you just carry a bag, or is there some place to store your things safely when you're not in a room? Even cash can take a lot of space, where do you keep it?
Taboo subjects: I like to be clear on what the girls will do and I sometimes ask them what they do and like / dislike. I have experienced that at some clubs you can ask anything and the girls are unfazed (Globe, some Diva girls) - but at other places like FKK clubs in DE the girls act offended, they tell their friends, and then all the girls are standoffish. Some of my favorite services are DFK, BBBJ, balls-licking, rimming, filming. Are these services that the girls do in Scandallo and other Sao Paulo clubs, and is it ok to ask about them (or do I even need to ask)? Or will asking just get me rejected by these girls?
I plan to stay at the Renaissance. Any issue bring girls there? I would also like to try the Love Motels, and it sounds like the girls can can guide me through that experience. But I can imagine that after a few days, I may just want to brig a girl back to my hotel and relax in the room. If there's anything I should know about managing the situation at the Renaissance, I would appreciate that information.
I plan to spend a bit of money, and I am ok with buying bottles and talking to girls at my table. But I don't like the feeling of being targeted or taken advantage of as a tourist. So, if there's any advice to help me avoid rookie mistakes I would be thankful.
If there are other guys interested in trying Scandallo or other spots with me, let me know in DM. I am an American, happy to hang with other guys that are interested in going in with some company. I will be in SP during the last weekend of November, starting November 22.[/QUOTE]What is your budget?
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[QUOTE=NF4591;3035413]Hello gents, I am excited to visit Sao Paulo in a few weeks, thank you all for the reports here. I have been active in other places in Europe (DE FKKs, Globe, Diva girls in London), and this will be my first time exploring Sao Paulo. From reading the forum, I think I will probably only go to Scandallo, maybe Casarao on a Sunday, and possibly Palms during the day.
[/QUOTE]Based on your previous hobbying experiences, that is a solid plan. And going to Scan multiple days during your trip pays dividends on subsequent days as 1) you are acclimated to the environment so less likely to fall into any traps 2) if you buy bottles, you won't waste them 3) girls see you are a regular and so do the wait staff and probably yield better service.
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Keeping things: I usually have a few things with me when I go to a club, and I use the lockers at FKK clubs, or take a bag with me when I see a Diva girl in London. Some of the things I might have include lots of cash, toothbrush (this is important if I'm eating at Scandallo and expect DFK), condoms, vapes, items to enhance the experience with a girl (oils, toys), sometimes a gopro if I want to record some memories. I can't imagine carrying all this in my pockets but it sounds like there are no lockers at Scandallo, is that true? If so, how do you guys manage, do you just carry a bag, or is there some place to store your things safely when you're not in a room? Even cash can take a lot of space, where do you keep it?[/QUOTE]There is a very safe and large storage area in Scandallo. You can bring a backpack or even your luggage before your flight home! I usually carry a lot of stuff with me and sometimes bring a backpack and store it at bag check. Then I have a cross body bag with some things (vape, battery pack, cigars, etc.). If I decide to take a girl in house, I would go to bag storage and take other stuff (Condoms, lube, toys, etc.) out of my backpack before taking the girl to the room.
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Taboo subjects: I like to be clear on what the girls will do and I sometimes ask them what they do and like / dislike. I have experienced that at some clubs you can ask anything and the girls are unfazed (Globe, some Diva girls) - but at other places like FKK clubs in DE the girls act offended, they tell their friends, and then all the girls are standoffish. Some of my favorite services are DFK, BBBJ, balls-licking, rimming, filming. Are these services that the girls do in Scandallo and other Sao Paulo clubs, and is it ok to ask about them (or do I even need to ask)? Or will asking just get me rejected by these girls?[/QUOTE]No issue with asking the girls if they provide certain services. I always try to make sure that the girl is okay with I want. I just ask tactfully or fit it naturally in the conversation. They will either say yes or no. None of your requests are taboo. I or my friends have gotten all of that from Scan girls over the years. It just depends on the girl and your chemistry.
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I plan to stay at the Renaissance. Any issue bring girls there? I would also like to try the Love Motels, and it sounds like the girls can can guide me through that experience. But I can imagine that after a few days, I may just want to brig a girl back to my hotel and relax in the room. If there's anything I should know about managing the situation at the Renaissance, I would appreciate that information.
[/QUOTE]The Renaissance is very girl friendly. Just make sure to book for at least 2 persons. They even have working girls freelancing at night at the lobby and bar. Depending when you return with the girl, they might ask you to register her. As a guest to your room.
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I plan to spend a bit of money, and I am ok with buying bottles and talking to girls at my table. But I don't like the feeling of being targeted or taken advantage of as a tourist. So, if there's any advice to help me avoid rookie mistakes I would be thankful.
[/QUOTE]You seem to be experienced enough to not fall into most of the newbie traps. Just read recent reports, which it seems you did, to get a sense of the market and you will be fine. Some girls might see gringos as newbies and some might throw high numbers as many would not negotiate. Just counter with what you are comfortable paying, while knowing the market pricing.
If you drink, then buying a bottle has many advantages besides lowering cost per drink. It will also hold your table so you can walk around and come back without worries of it being taken by others. They keep bottles for 6 months so if you come back on multiple days, you can keep drinking from it. If you like gin, that is the type of bottle I would get as most of the girls prefer gin.
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Thanks and budget
Thanks for the advice Steve, Anaggie and Socrates. The bag storage is a good tip and if I can carry a small bag around with me then I should be fine. I know zero Portuguese and will be relying on a Translate app, so no use trying to act like I'm not a new tourist. Sounds like if I use common sense I'll have a good time, and after my first visit I'l get to know the girls & staff and they'll get to know me so that it all feels more comfortable. Just like at Globe.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3035425]What is your budget?[/QUOTE]I'm expecting to spend $500-1 k USD per day, which seems like a pretty good budget to have fun with a couple girls each day and not be too stingy about buying drinks and stuff. I'm expecting that 1000-1500 BRL / hour is about the right range at Scandallo, and I might be able to get closer to 1000 after my first visit. After the first day or two I'd hope to have some phone numbers that I can use to have girls over to my hotel or meet at love motels, and can get a better deal on long bookings (at 1500-2000 for all-nighters?) - but I won't get ahead of myself.
Does that sound reasonable for budget / cost?
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[QUOTE=NF4591;3035548]Thanks for the advice Steve, Anaggie and Socrates. The bag storage is a good tip and if I can carry a small bag around with me then I should be fine. I know zero Portuguese and will be relying on a Translate app, so no use trying to act like I'm not a new tourist. Sounds like if I use common sense I'll have a good time, and after my first visit I'l get to know the girls & staff and they'll get to know me so that it all feels more comfortable. Just like at Globe.
I'm expecting to spend $500-1 k USD per day, which seems like a pretty good budget to have fun with a couple girls each day and not be too stingy about buying drinks and stuff. I'm expecting that 1000-1500 BRL / hour is about the right range at Scandallo, and I might be able to get closer to 1000 after my first visit. After the first day or two I'd hope to have some phone numbers that I can use to have girls over to my hotel or meet at love motels, and can get a better deal on long bookings (at 1500-2000 for all-nighters?) - but I won't get ahead of myself.
Does that sound reasonable for budget / cost?[/QUOTE]Sounds perfect. Your plan is basically what we all do. On a negotiation front, I suggest that you keep a ceiling such as 800-1 k for in house for an hour and 1. 5-2 k for overnight. Sometimes the girl is super hot and you have to have her so maybe a little bit more but girls will start with stupid numbers so don't go by what they throw out. Tell them you are going to be in town for a while and have been to Scandello before and know what the going rates are. A few girls will walk away. Let them go because you probably dodged a bullet. Those who stay and will negotiate might be the gems.
Good luck and do report back.