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[QUOTE=Anaggie;3035559]Sounds perfect. Your plan is basically what we all do. On a negotiation front, I suggest that you keep a ceiling such as 800-1 k for in house for an hour and 1. 5-2 k for overnight. Sometimes the girl is super hot and you have to have her so maybe a little bit more but girls will start with stupid numbers so don't go by what they throw out. Tell them you are going to be in town for a while and have been to Scandello before and know what the going rates are. A few girls will walk away. Let them go because you probably dodged a bullet. Those who stay and will negotiate might be the gems.

Good luck and do report back.[/QUOTE]Anaggie and I def agree on most things but I don't think your going to find what you want for under 1000 in house. Let's not forget he speaks great Portuguese which prob helps get a bit lower. I am always a 1000-1200 guy in house. I haven't had girls come at me with anything over 1500. (Maybe I am lucky). But if she does then I'the say 1000 and settle on 1200 (and not budge above that). But maybe u can try 800 and see how it goes.

[QUOTE=NF4591;3035413]
Keeping things: is there some place to store your things safely when you're not in a room? Even cash can take a lot of space, where do you keep it?
[/QUOTE]Like other members have pointed out, there are lockers in Scandallo that you can use, but they are not free like in FKKs. There is a small fee. I was charged $R50 for a small locker that I used to store a very small bag. I don't' know if bigger lockers cost more.

[QUOTE=NF4591;3035413]
Taboo subjects: I like to be clear on what the girls will do and I sometimes ask them what they do and like / dislike. I have experienced that at some clubs you can ask anything and the girls are unfazed (Globe, some Diva girls) - but at other places like FKK clubs in DE the girls act offended, they tell their friends, and then all the girls are standoffish. Some of my favorite services are DFK, BBBJ, balls-licking, rimming, filming. Are these services that the girls do in Scandallo and other Sao Paulo clubs, and is it ok to ask about them (or do I even need to ask)? Or will asking just get me rejected by these girls?
[/QUOTE]No wonder most avoid taboo subjects! Let me dive in tongue first 😉.

From the list of services, I think the only thing that can get you into such trouble, like you said you did, is "rimming". The reaction depends on whether you want to give or receive. Most girls take proposal for you "giving" quite positively in Brazil (and other countries) but not providing you. Are you looking for receiving?

When I ask girls about rimming, they nervously ask whether I am interested in giving or receiving. When I respond "giving", "yes" is usually their response with a big 😁. Based on the reactions I have seen, I don't think lots of girls like "giving" especially on a first encounter. I personally don't care for it, but I have received it a couple of times unsolicited. If really care about receiving, then you will improve your chances of getting (and also avoid the situation you spoke of) it if you propose it in private after 1st encounter if all goes well. Like anywhere in the world, you can find girls that do pretty much anything for a price. You may have to compromise on optics and other desirable attributes guys usually go for.

[QUOTE=NF4591;3035548]
I'm expecting to spend $500-1 k USD per day...

Does that sound reasonable for budget / cost?[/QUOTE]It is enough for most guys, BUT.

Not enough if you are a stud who fucks many girls a day. There are some forum members that routinely take 4,5 or more Scandallo girls a day and I am pretty sure it costs them a lot more than 1 k / day.

If you can't afford a larger budget but still want to fuck 4,5 or more Scandallo girls a day, then no worries. There is an easy button for that. Make sure you are a Casanova or like Brad Pitt, because hoes love to give them their pussy for free or for very little money.

[QUOTE=NF4591;3035413]
Taboo subjects: I like to be clear on what the girls will do and I sometimes ask them what they do and like / dislike. I have experienced that at some clubs you can ask anything and the girls are unfazed (Globe, some Diva girls) - but at other places like FKK clubs in DE the girls act offended, they tell their friends, and then all the girls are standoffish. Some of my favorite services are DFK, BBBJ, balls-licking, rimming, filming. Are these services that the girls do in Scandallo and other Sao Paulo clubs, and is it ok to ask about them (or do I even need to ask)? Or will asking just get me rejected by these girls?
.[/QUOTE]Taboo.

Brasilian services are DFK, BBBJ, balls-licking, rimming, filming, anal, facefucking cum swallowing, snowballing, facials licking between two 19 year and 20 year garotas, toys, gargunta profunda spray, two blonde loira Amazon scandanavian looking garotas nonstop fucking and sucking two hours. Two true sisters and her mom the next day because they all looked hot on instagram filters. Brasilian porno queens in clinicas or private session, swingy clubs, glory holes, public sex in omnibus, theater, boat, S&M room inside different swingy clubs, orgy rooms, film night in swingy clubs.

Porno post orgy parties during carnival by various producers, 100 percent of all of these can be done, have been done with reports posted by me and members kkkk. Consistently sessioned with more damn cute 20 to 22 year old rimmers & CIM swallowers in casarao for 400 brl per garota than other places, mother daughter hook up was in panda motel botafogo on mothers day. You need repeat visits and longer time in country + basic porto to through the entire porno bucket list, more than once because a bunch of those young cuties at casarao don't hold back.

Filming videos, some garotas side hustle is selling their videos on privacy. Br or doing kinky edgy private porno.

I know garotas in scandallo, casarao, bomboa, cafe photos, prime, tangara, miruna, relax, palms shared with me on their phone their private never to be posted porno videos. They won't send it or share. We watch together on her phone.

All I can say is! Dayum! There's mofo freaks on another level doing weird wild shit with brasilian garotas.

[QUOTE=NF4591;3035548]
I'm expecting to spend $500-1 k USD per day, which seems like a pretty good budget to have fun with a couple girls each day and not be too stingy about buying drinks and stuff. I'm expecting that 1000-1500 BRL / hour is about the right range at Scandallo, and I might be able to get closer to 1000 after my first visit. After the first day or two I'd hope to have some phone numbers that I can use to have girls over to my hotel or meet at love motels, and can get a better deal on long bookings (at 1500-2000 for all-nighters?) - but I won't get ahead of myself.

Does that sound reasonable for budget / cost?[/QUOTE]I think that budget should be pretty adequate unless you're taking two girls for an overnight every day. My personal preference is generally a clinica girl (300 r-600 r) during the day and a date (600-1000 r) or Scandallo / Bomboa / Gauguin (1000-1200) girl at night plus dinner / drinks (500 r). 90% of the time I regret taking a first-time girl overnight, so I avoid that at nearly all costs. The first time with a girl, do it in-house. You also avoid girls pulling things in the room, as we all know. Like payment upfront, bailing after 1 pop, or leaving early.

Some guys are taking and paying 3-4 girls every day, but they have much more stamina than I LOL.

You need to learn Portuguese.

Pimsleur portoguese on audible.

On youtube: portadosfundos.

You are way overspending.

Minimum wage is 1500 r a month, and 300 r deducted to the government.

But whatever, some on this board will label me a cheap charlie, to which I proudly claim the title. Yeah.

But here is the rub. The key.

Cheap charlies get better sex.

If you overpay you label yourself a gringo, and that is where you will become a victim of all the games to give gringos bad sex. IE, covered everything, upsell for every thing.

So. Pick your path, young jedi.

I mean, vagabundo linked up with a new contact from this board two weeks ago. Good dude, but the whole trip he was reporting that he fucked this hot thin white chick and that (he was a colorist which got him banned from my zap group where I am not ashamed of my love for negras) all covered, or at least mostly, and all for just an hour. I mean, great for fatalmodels, and their higher price structure.

But what does ole vagabundo know. He is but a fool. Yeah. You fly in from el paso for a week, and you are a king for a week in scandallo, but you are paying like 4 x or 6 x what locals pay for. And here's the key. Worse sex.

Parabens.

[QUOTE=NF4591;3035548]Thanks for the advice Steve, Anaggie and Socrates. The bag storage is a good tip and if I can carry a small bag around with me then I should be fine. I know zero Portuguese and will be relying on a Translate app, so no use trying to act like I'm not a new tourist. Sounds like if I use common sense I'll have a good time, and after my first visit I'l get to know the girls & staff and they'll get to know me so that it all feels more comfortable. Just like at Globe.

I'm expecting to spend $500-1 k USD per day, which seems like a pretty good budget to have fun with a couple girls each day and not be too stingy about buying drinks and stuff. I'm expecting that 1000-1500 BRL / hour is about the right range at Scandallo, and I might be able to get closer to 1000 after my first visit. [/QUOTE]

Here is how to fuck a Brazilian.

Play.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAk7BkGl2Jw[/URL]

That is 39 minutes 15 seconds. If you get an hour at a prive / clinica, you should play that 1. 5 times for the full hour. Usually, if you are getting 'gringo' ed that means they will rob you by calling an end to the hour at like 45 or 30 minutes. The chick will take a 12 minute shower, and 3 minutes to put a condom on before she sucks your dick, and tell you she can't deep french kiss because of her dental problems, and check your blood tests for dates, and lack of tests for some issue like lack of I don't know, blood sugar levels, so by the time you fuck, you will fuck your condom in her hand for 30 seconds, and she will say 'voce e nervossa' and call security, and you will jerk off while watching her look at you like a lady cop, and hope she didn't steal your stuff. Everyone has been there and done that, or you are not a monger. If you do it right, you fuck for like 55 minutes dick in pussy bare, and trade hoars from the casa with zero friction / ciumes (jealousy), all easier said than done, but, good cross training for muay thai, 2 hours, later on Tuesdays and thursdays for a total of 240 minutes, almost, of cardio, so you can safely train muay thai with hot college euro girls without eye fucking them into banishment.

And then you play, when you want to take a break.

[URL]https://youtu.be/6EYmKAs7mzc?si=Xf09zN-BzC7z7n7i[/URL]

Ok, she will have seen this. You should watch it, discuss it. And use it to learn portoguese.

This is like 45 minutes.

Ok, now just click around.

And before you fuck, if you like to watch porn, and usually she does, ask, what kind of porn do you like? You can do all this on a laptop -- ie, one browser for the music, one maybe for the youtube, and one for xvideos -- and if you like to watch the same porn, play all 3 on a laptop, like a 'burner' laptop, like a used thinkpad t14 gen 2 on amazon (about 300 usd, which vagabundo would ask any of you fine swiss sailors to bring down from the rich world to vagabundo, just PM me and we can arrange deets by zap). So now, you're all squared away. Like this girl, Rebecca vilar, which is the kind of 25 year old porn star that you can fuck in Brazil for a reasonable price (with condom at first), but can't get at the same price in the rich pussy prison world of 'merika or prolly most of euroland.

[URL]https://www.xvideos.com/models/rebeca-villar[/URL]

So there it is.

Now if you repeat with those girls, you figure out which porn you like together, and you make some compilations for like 120 minutes of fucking together which is diary of a ceo podcast healthy porn addiction and sports cross training (after which, swim and walk an hour in the surf on the beach, well fucked because on weeks like last week, you may have muay thai canceled by megaoperacao).

[URL]https://podcasts.apple.com/az/podcast/the-big-porn-debate-3-experts-debate-the-unseen/id1291423644?i=1000673801616[/URL]

I mean, as a rio rule #1 you as a man should fuck every day. Like real 20 something pussy, even 18 year old pussy if you can find it, and it is not hard.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3035627]You need to learn Portuguese.

Pimsleur portoguese on audible.

On youtube: portadosfundos.

You are way overspending.

Minimum wage is 1500 r a month, and 300 r deducted to the government.s.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3035627]You need to learn Portuguese.

Pimsleur portoguese on audible.

On youtube: portadosfundos.

You are way overspending.

Minimum wage is 1500 r a month, and 300 r deducted to the government.

But whatever, some on this board will label me a cheap charlie, to which I proudly claim the title. Yeah.

But here is the rub. The key.

Cheap charlies get better sex.

If you overpay you label yourself a gringo, and that is where you will become a victim of all the games to give gringos bad sex. IE, covered everything, upsell for every thing.

.[/QUOTE]I don't disagree with what you wrote, BUT, you live there and speak (I assume) Portuguese. While it's good to keep in mind the local wages and what locals pay, a short-term visitor w / o language skill isn't likely to get the prices that you can.

And then there is the famous Scandallo.

[QUOTE=Combo;3035758]I don't disagree with what you wrote, BUT, you live there and speak (I assume) Portuguese. While it's good to keep in mind the local wages and what locals pay, a short-term visitor w / o language skill isn't likely to get the prices that you can.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3035421]I am not sure about Casarao but if it is a small shoulder bag, I think you will be fine with carrying it in.
[/QUOTE]There is a some storage in Casarao. It is located at the downstairs bar. Just give your stuff to the barmen and he will store and register it to your card.

Do not forget to pickup your stuff before leaving the club with girl to the hotel. Once I forget to take my jacket, got a new card, and they had some issues to find record in computer.

[QUOTE=Combo;3035758] While it's good to keep in mind the local wages and what locals pay, a short-term visitor w / o language skill isn't likely to get the prices that you can.[/QUOTE]I don't think that is what he wrote. VB1 is not writing about getting the same Scandallo girl for 300 when others are paying 1000. You maybe surprised how much the wealthy locals can pay.

About better sex, there is some truth to that. Logically speaking, when you already have better look, you can sell it. When you don't, you have to sell better service. My personal experience backs it up. A really good looking girl that provide good service probably won't survive in low price place long. Can you have sex with 10 60 yr old women a day for 1 week?

This is my observation and personal experience. One advantage of locals or long term visitors lies in they can have access to what short term visitors don't. The locals have earlier access to new comers that are not influenced as much by money yet. My recent posts hinted at this. Then there are gilrs that do not like to see many men, and they will accept reasonable pay if you are local that repeats

I survey the whole field to know the merchandise. I don'g go to Scandallo to session with a similar girl that I can find in clinica. I also survey many parts of Brazil so I have good idea of pricing of Brazil as a whole. The downside is some parts of Brazil can be quite boring. Curitiba is very small and many venues are nearby each other. I too survey the whole city on foot. At the end of the day, many working girls from different places with price between 180/ h to 800/ h go to Glass or Metro for an average price of 500 (I was told by the manager so I use this price as a reference point).

If I pay 1000 for the girl at Scandallo, we will spend at least half an hour talking or making out. Let me just use one hour which is not out of the line. The girl got paid 1000 for 2 hours. The girl has to pay entrada so she takes home 600 or 700 for 2 hours of work. Now the price becomes more reasonable. The girls who are regular have basically no entrada. You can usually get them cheaper if you know who they are. Only the first one I took was a regular and she has maintained a lower and fairer price. She brought friends to Scandallo frequently when I was still visiting. The fresh friend is the same rate as her. That is a bargain. Haha. If you like to have a few paid girlfriends (for 200 USD a date, 30 days / month, 12 months a year), Scandallo is not good choice due to the overhead. Many are influenced by money in a negative way.

Does anyone know if Piano Black is good and how does it work? A fellow monger just told me about it at a clinica's reception area. He had to go to his room so we didn't finish the convo. It's pretty far for most of us, not sure if I want wonder out there. But he sworn by it.

I came back to SP a few days ago and didn't have any actions with anyone other than my future ex brasileira GF. Kk.

So I hopped on a white taxi to Moema for my usual route.

I first checked out Prime and Miruna but their talent was as good as a Walmart. Then I went to Abbobora. Still shitty attitude but the talent level is about one notch higher than other 2 places on a Tues afternoon. Went with Alona (real blonde) for 1 HR, great service, 400 R.

Then I checked out 57, large line up and some were my repeats from past trips. So I chatted with them for about 20 minutes while consuming a Heineken. Will probably go back in a few days to have with a trio there.

I am in SP for a few more weeks if anyone wants to meetup. I am stilling looking for some mulatas / pretas as I am into darker skinned ATM.

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3035909]Does anyone know if Piano Black is good and how does it work? A fellow monger just told me about it at a clinica's reception area. He had to go to his room so we didn't finish the convo. It's pretty far for most of us, not sure if I want wonder out there. But he sworn by it.[/QUOTE]First let me say I haven't been. But I looked into it before and try to get them to me to their WhatsApp status to no avail. From gpguia, it's a sensual / Nuru massage place with a hand release. No BJ or FS or kissing. Because of that and the distance, I didn't investigate further. IDK if there's a secret menu that nobody talks about. On what's app, they were very vague about their services, there is a barber shop attached it you and they kept asking me if I wanted a shave or a haircut. Hahaha. Maybe it's for locals who need an excuse for plausible deniability.

Since SP has a Japanese district, wondering if there are any Japanese nuru opportunities there or at least soapy massages?