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[QUOTE=Cerebro;1907047]WTF! Jake's shit keep spreading like wildfire. Thanks to Jake this year is going to be difficult for the single gringo traveler to stay under the radar or keep a low profile when entering, leaving the airport, or just being in Medellin. The other new channels started to pick up Jake's news and for the good politicians blaming the gringos for Medellin problems, the corruption, drugs, and prostitution, this is going to come easy. [/QUOTE]I just booked my flights to Mde next week. I was going to stay at the mansion for a few days then du Parc but now debating on no mansion at all.
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33 million pesos in cash? What! The Medellin police is probably having a party with Jake's hookers invited. That's what I call stimulating the Colombian economy!
[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;1907087]Harry Jay Drivas, officials said, leading a criminal organization that develops activities of pimping women, adolescents and
On its website reads: "I'm here to help ensure you have the best vacation of your life. "
At the time of the raid the police found 33 million pesos in cash, four cell, three hard drives, plus cards sim card.
And at the current exchange rate of $1 US = 2934 COP, 33 million COP cash would equal $11,028 US, which, now, doesn't belong to Jake anymore. It belongs to the Government of Colombia.[/QUOTE]
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Hope this shit blows over. From reports CubaDave's arrest in Costa Rica didn't seem to affect activities in San Jose.
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[QUOTE=Surfer500;1907238]So what your implying is that anyone who was a client of Jake's of which the Colombian government obtained copies of their Passport's might be flagged in the Colombian system and detained and / or questioned upon entering Colombia?[/QUOTE]That's right. I'm sure he's singing like a canary and has already given them the names of those who requested minors. But they must have the full client list and may not be satisfied, and may want to question them themselves. I think there's a chance that they could be detained / questioned. I don't think they would be arrested unless there's proof of wrongdoing (like emails requesting illegal activities).
I'm going to MDE on Thursday, but I have never had any contact with that guy so I don't expect to have any issues.
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Pimp
The bottom line is simply don't be trying to make a living off those women. Peru David, Cuba Dave, Colombia Jake, all felt the need to make some $$ off the local ladies. Bad idea!
The allegations re minors I don't even believe. For example, if Colombia Jake had a 13 year old in his apt, why would his roommate Eric be walking around as I write? The authorities make these allegations to cover up the fact that they are simply arresting a pimp. Pimping is wrong, but they can't be satisfied with a simple justification.
The moral of the story is, don't retire unless you have the money.
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[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;1907087]And at the current exchange rate of $1 US = 2934 COP, 33 million COP cash would equal $11,028 US, which, now, doesn't belong to Jake anymore. It belongs to the Government of Colombia.[/QUOTE]So that's money he won't be able to use to hire the lawyer to which he is [B]not[/B] entitled, or to post bail, to which he is also [B]not[/B] entitled. But I'm sure the jury he's [B]not[/B] entitled to will be fair, and the right to confront his accusers that he does [B]not[/B] have will prove his innocence, which is [B]not[/B] legally presumed. In any event, he is [B]not[/B] entitled to a speedy trial.
I'm thinking the Napoleonic Code will come as a bit of a shock to him.
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[QUOTE=Chesscat;1907313]The bottom line is simply don't be trying to make a living off those women. Peru David, Cuba Dave, Colombia Jake, all felt the need to make some $$ off the local ladies. Bad idea!
The allegations re minors I don't even believe. For example, if Colombia Jake had a 13 year old in his apt, why would his roommate Eric be walking around as I write? The authorities make these allegations to cover up the fact that they are simply arresting a pimp. Pimping is wrong, but they can't be satisfied with a simple justification.
The moral of the story is, don't retire unless you have the money.[/QUOTE]I'm somewhat inclined to believe in this possibility as well Chesscat. They already have him on the pimping charge; they could be making up the minors and drug manufacturing stuff to make it sound much more serious. I highly doubt they are going to go trying to track down all the chicas he employed. Just say that he was pimping minors and dealing in drugs and lay the burden on him to prove otherwise (which is futile). I mean, who's going to believe the word of a gringo foreigner pimp?
Either way, this was meant to scare the shit out of any future would-be flesh entrepreneurs trying to set up something similar in Medellin. They've already got you on the pimping charge; any and everything else they throw in as well is just icing on the top. And even if you are not guilty of the extra charges, your name is besmirched and your life is ruined forever.
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Astute
Nice observation Dickhead!
[QUOTE=Dickhead;1907314]So that's money he won't be able to use to hire the lawyer to which he is [B]not[/B] entitled, or to post bail, to which he is also [B]not[/B] entitled. But I'm sure the jury he's [B]not[/B] entitled to will be fair, and the right to confront his accusers that he does [B]not[/B] have will prove his innocence, which is [B]not[/B] legally presumed. In any event, he is [B]not[/B] entitled to a speedy trial.
I'm thinking the Napoleonic Code will come as a bit of a shock to him.[/QUOTE]
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Mansion
Mansion is cool. I don't know what Du Parc is. I recommend [URL]http://www.hotelparque70.com/[/URL] . It is the bomb!
[QUOTE=Shanamat;1907259]I just booked my flights to Mde next week. I was going to stay at the mansion for a few days then du Parc but now debating on no mansion at all.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1907321]I'm somewhat inclined to believe in this possibility as well Chesscat. They already have him on the pimping charge; they could be making up the minors and drug manufacturing stuff to make it sound much more serious. I highly doubt they are going to go trying to track down all the chicas he employed. Just say that he was pimping minors and dealing in drugs and lay the burden on him to prove otherwise (which is futile). I mean, who's going to believe the word of a gringo foreigner pimp?
Either way, this was meant to scare the shit out of any future would-be flesh entrepreneurs trying to set up something similar in Medellin. They've already got you on the pimping charge; any and everything else they throw in as well is just icing on the top. And even if you are not guilty of the extra charges, your name is besmirched and your life is ruined forever.[/QUOTE]My opinion is there is something to the minors charge. The US isn't going to get involved helping bring down a small time pimp in Colombia. They will get involved if minors are involved, they've already done so several times.
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JjBee
Several times? In my opinion, the charges against Peru David were exaggerated, that is fabricated with respect to minors, and re Cuba Dave, there were never any such charges. So what are you saying?
Where is any proof against anybody? I think the US makes baseless accusations, and encourages the local governments, Peruvian, CR or Colombian, to make similar baseless accusations. Re the charges in Colombia, I will bet anyone a dinner at Dejame que te cuente, en la 70, that these accusations re a minor are not borne out by October / November, when I am going down again.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1907327]My opinion is there is something to the minors charge. The US isn't going to get involved helping bring down a small time pimp in Colombia. They will get involved if minors are involved, they've already done so several times.[/QUOTE]
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My prediction is Jake will be doing his time in a US prison. First, the US was involved in his arrest, and second, Colombia has no problem forking over lawbreakers to the US. Several local men who never stepped foot in the US have been extradited there to do time, even as all their activities were in Medellin. Colombia is just going to kick him out forever anyway, and they have faith the US will come down plenty hard on him, so why hassle or pay for him? He's just a liability to Colombia if they have to watch him.
Jake will wish he was in a Colombian prison, where it would be rougher living but he would get out much sooner than what he is going to get in the US. Once he's out and on probation looking for a shit job that accepts guys who have to inform their boss they are a convicted sexual predator, or whatever they call it, he can look forward to paying all that back child support he skipped out on when he moved to Medellin.
For Jake, it doesn't matter one little bit if people believe the charge or not, they are what they are, and they are very serious. No use in trying to defend him when you weren't there and can't know what transpired. He was asking for trouble and he found it, regardless of every little detail that you can't possibly know.
In general, Colombians are very patient but Jake shoved it in everybody's faces. Colombian law enforcement even warned a couple months ago this was coming, and described Jakes bullshit to a tee when they stated what they were going after. What is the big surprise?
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Well said
You are right James Dandy. There is no point in trying to defend him. Nevertheless, as far are minors, I doubt it. This is just a charge they throw in, until the public has lost interest.
The bottom line though, is don't fight The Man. Don't even attract his attention. The Man being Uncle Sam.
My last trip down was quite fun, I don't have to worry about The Man. I wanders around El Centro, wanders around La 70, and Energy, and who cares?
So the Man can do what he wanna do.
"What we have here is a failure to communicate!"
[QUOTE=JamesDandy;1907334]My prediction is Jake will be doing his time in a US prison. First, the US was involved in his arrest, and second, Colombia has no problem forking over lawbreakers to the US. Several local men who never stepped foot in the US have been extradited there to do time, even as all their activities were in Medellin. Colombia is just going to kick him out forever anyway, and they have faith the US will come down plenty hard on him, so why hassle or pay for him? He's just a liability to Colombia if they have to watch him.
Jake will wish he was in a Colombian prison, where it would be rougher living but he would get out much sooner than what he is going to get in the US. Once he's out and on probation looking for a shit job that accepts guys who have to inform their boss they are a convicted sexual predator, or whatever they call it, he can look forward to paying all that back child support he skipped out on when he moved to Medellin.
For Jake, it doesn't matter one little bit if people believe the charge or not, they are what they are, and they are very serious. No use in trying to defend him when you weren't there and can't know what transpired. He was asking for trouble and he found it, regardless of every little detail that you can't possibly know.
In general, Colombians are very patient but Jake shoved it in everybody's faces. Colombian law enforcement even warned a couple months ago this was coming, and described Jakes bullshit to a tee when they stated what they were going after. What is the big surprise?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Chesscat;1907326]Mansion is cool. I don't know what Du Parc is. I recommend [URL]http://www.hotelparque70.com/[/URL] . It is the bomb![/QUOTE]This is Du Parc: [URL]https://www.google.com/search?q=hotel[/URL]+du+parc&rlz=1 C1 AFAB_enUS570 US575&oq=hotel+du+parc&aqs=chrome. 69 i57 j69 i64.2687 j0 j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=hotel+du+parc+medellin.
It seems pretty nice and someone said it was Chica friendly. I can't find anything on Parque 70, there website is empty and nothing on google search. The reason I'm kinda spooked about Mansion is the charges everyone is talking about. I've never been to MDE or met Jake, but from my experience in SJ / Jaco and in Asia these hotels where girls hang out could be seen as pimping in someones eye.
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[QUOTE=Chesscat;1907330]Several times? In my opinion, the charges against Peru David were exaggerated, that is fabricated with respect to minors, and re Cuba Dave, there were never any such charges. So what are you saying?
Where is any proof against anybody? I think the US makes baseless accusations, and encourages the local governments, Peruvian, CR or Colombian, to make similar baseless accusations. Re the charges in Colombia, I will bet anyone a dinner at Dejame que te cuente, en la 70, that these accusations re a minor are not borne out by October / November, when I am going down again.[/QUOTE]It started in 2004. There were three rather high profile cases, one from Russia, 2 from Cambodia. Since then there have been cases in several countries including the Philippines, Thailand, Costa Rica and the Dominican Republic. The US helped bust a sex trafficking ring, involving minors, in the DR last spring.