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[QUOTE=KombatWombat;2981482]Anyone on following this thread mongered been to fkks clubs in europe?
How does Hong Kong compare in terms of service expected and average looks of girls?[/QUOTE]FKK girls are the hottest providers in the world. My experience with service is that you can expect a greater percentage of HK senoritas to give better service than FKK chicks.
[QUOTE=KombatWombat;2981482]Anyone on following this thread mongered been to fkks clubs in europe?
How does Hong Kong compare in terms of service expected and average looks of girls?[/QUOTE]Hard to compare. Apples and oranges.
FKK is more Eastern European girls. Mostly Romania. If you like white chicks. HK is obviously Latinas. Many from further south.
FKK are larger, more spread out, often suburban, a bit more luxurious. HK is usually a sardine can with loud music. And it's obviously a seedy place in a very seedy part of a seedy town.
FKK you're mostly left alone except girls making eyes. HK has waiters bothering you every 30 seconds.
FKK ironically is cheaper to bang. But you pay more to get there obviously.
I prefer an FKK but it's not practical to go often due to flights so HK will do.
[QUOTE=KombatWombat;2981482]Anyone on following this thread mongered been to fkks clubs in europe?
How does Hong Kong compare in terms of service expected and average looks of girls?[/QUOTE]Was in Salzburg, Austria a couple years ago and visited FKK Mystic. You can search and find my report on here. 75 Euros to access the club, include a buffet, beer and soft drinks. Like other mentioned, mostly Romanian girls, pretty, most spoke English. Girls were friendly and available for 80 Euros for the hour, additional 50 for BBBJCIM and 80 more for Greek. Not al offered Greek, most pushed for CIM. Went on a Saturday night and was told there were 80 girls there, maybe 15 guys. Was it worth it. Hell yeah! Wish I could go back without the SO.
FYI, rates were 2 years ago and $1.05 would get you 1 Euro. Mystic also had a Laufhaus(brothel) adjacent to the club. I didnt partake. I did however go to a laufhaus in the city. Basically a run down hotel. Had a bar that I didnt visit. Went straight to the girls room and knocked and was let in. Turkish girl, not my type, very disappointing experience.
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[QUOTE=RexRiver;2981883]Was in Salzburg, Austria a couple years ago and visited FKK Mystic. You can search and find my report on here. 75 Euros to access the club, include a buffet, beer and soft drinks. Like other mentioned, mostly Romanian girls, pretty, most spoke English. Girls were friendly and available for 80 Euros for the hour, additional 50 for BBBJCIM and 80 more for Greek. Not al offered Greek, most pushed for CIM. Went on a Saturday night and was told there were 80 girls there, maybe 15 guys. Was it worth it. Hell yeah! Wish I could go back without the SO.
FYI, rates were 2 years ago and $1.05 would get you 1 Euro. Mystic also had a Laufhaus(brothel) adjacent to the club. I didnt partake. I did however go to a laufhaus in the city. Basically a run down hotel. Had a bar that I didnt visit. Went straight to the girls room and knocked and was let in. Turkish girl, not my type, very disappointing experience.[/QUOTE]What is the demographic situation of the clientele in the FKK's, Mostly European Whites, or mixed? As in additional to whites are there Asians, Blacks, Arabs, Indians, etc. Like we have in Tijuana?
[QUOTE=RexRiver;2981883]Was in Salzburg, Austria a couple years ago and visited FKK Mystic. Was it worth it. Hell yeah! Wish I could go back without the SO.[/QUOTE]I should have stated in my earlier post that I had already visited a handful of FKK clubs.
Funnily enough Mystik was one of the ones I visited. Highly rated but not super well known club. Didn't realise it had a laufhaus next to it.
Its Tijuana I have not been to but am contemplating on doing so.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2982695]What is the demographic situation of the clientele in the FKK's, Mostly European Whites, or mixed? As in additional to whites are there Asians, Blacks, Arabs, Indians, etc. Like we have in Tijuana?[/QUOTE]Very mixed. Didn't see any black. But tons of European, a few American, and definitely some Asian and south Asian. Some Arab too.
The ones I went to were in Frankfurt. Keeping in mind, Frankfurt is a massive airline hub like Atlanta. So it's easy for people to take a long layover.
[QUOTE=KombatWombat;2983012]I should have stated in my earlier post that I had already visited a handful of FKK clubs.
Funnily enough Mystik was one of the ones I visited. Highly rated but not super well known club. Didn't realise it had a laufhaus next to it.
Its Tijuana I have not been to but am contemplating on doing so.[/QUOTE]Temper your expectations. Tijuana is not close to the FKK's.
[QUOTE=KombatWombat;2983012]I should have stated in my earlier post that I had already visited a handful of FKK clubs.
Funnily enough Mystik was one of the ones I visited. Highly rated but not super well known club. Didn't realise it had a laufhaus next to it.
Its Tijuana I have not been to but am contemplating on doing so.[/QUOTE]Adjust your expectation. ZN in Tijuana is a slum compared to where you been in Germany. Police, guns, armored cars, beggars, druggies, stray dogs, stray kids, sewage stench, fumes, street vendors, immigration lines. Other than that it is heaven.
[QUOTE=Rexine;2983138]Temper your expectations. Tijuana is not close to the FKK's.[/QUOTE]Apples and oranges. There's too much overthinking going on. If you're attracted to Mexican girls, then visit. If you're not, then don't. Yes, it's grimy in Zona Norte but it's not right to generalize that to the entire city of Tijuana. Doing so is as idiotic as thinking Tepito is a reflection of Mexico City as a whole. On a final note, I'll take the food in Mexico every day of the week over Germany or Austria.
[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;2983167]Apples and oranges. There's too much overthinking going on. If you're attracted to Mexican girls, then visit. If you're not, then don't. Yes, it's grimy in Zona Norte but it's not right to generalize that to the entire city of Tijuana. Doing so is as idiotic as thinking Tepito is a reflection of Mexico City as a whole. On a final note, I'll take the food in Mexico every day of the week over Germany or Austria.[/QUOTE]There is a big difference in transportation costs. I was in Munich in December and then transferred to another city in Europe (not for sex but other purposes). Non stop San Diego to Munich round trip Lufthansa cost me $1800 and extra $75 luggage. My cost here travel to Hong Kong club is $5 trolley round trip when I park in trolley parking and $6 Hong Kong limo round trip total $11. Plus add hotel prices in Europe $100 and up / night plus restaurants it comes out expensive. IMO, FKK is good for local Germans, and for neighboring countries like France, Luxembourg (where prostitution is illegal) etc. That is why Germans are always happy because almost every city in Germany has brothels and sex clubs! (similar to Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland, Austria) If you are looking for chica that looks European, there are some in Hong Kong too. In Germany they also have problems, for example some crazy people drive their cars into a crowd of people on the street (a week ago in Munich). When it comes to sex I vote for Tijuana because it's closer.
Europe would be great if already living there and can use the trains and low cost Euro airlines. I like to go to Europe and Asia but don't want to go into debt for it when have Monterrey MEX in my backyard (where I going tomorrow for 6 days! And Tijuana and CR closer and quicker to amortize the sunk travel costs.
Only country I would want to live long term is Spain since familiar with the language but can get struggle around with other languages short term for FKK experiences. .
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2983161]Adjust your expectation. ZN in Tijuana is a slum compared to where you been in Germany. Police, guns, armored cars, beggars, druggies, stray dogs, stray kids, sewage stench, fumes, street vendors, immigration lines. Other than that it is heaven.[/QUOTE]Why not just have the best of both worlds, book a hotel in San Diego, spend the day absorbing the picture perfect postcard worthy beaches, parks and other SD tourist spots downtown.
Then come night time, live like a high roller but at the fraction of the price in Tijuana. Limo pickup from the border directly shuttles you to the Hong Kong Gentleman's Club. This bypasses all the bad scenery that Zenduka is pointing out. Once in club you can get Las Vegas style services at fraction of cost. Invite the 2 girls doing the lesbian foam show for drinks. Because you already know a threesome with these 2 girls are open to girl on girl action for the right price. Get a bottle and private VIP room where you can get to know these girls (or even fuck in VIP room), or better yet get a luxury Jacuzzi Room with a stripper pole and minibar in Hotel Cascadas next door.
Below is copied and pasted from my visit to Mystic on the Austrian / German border outside of Salzburg. Please note that it is my understanding that Mystic had closed for a while and re-opened as a "swingers club. " This was my only experience in an FKK / Sauna Club and other FKK will obviously be different. Regarding the girls, most were Romania and eastern Euroean. I did do a session with a girl from Moldavia. There were also a couple of Black girls there, one who I seriously considered as she had the body type I lover.
"All of the girls I saw were Pretty, dark complexed Romania girls with just a touch of exotic look to them!
I was in Salzburg, Asustria for a few days on holiday with the wife. Circumstances which I would rather not discuss allowed me 3 nights to myself. I had done some research on another board about the hobbying opportunities there and in Munich. Really didn't expect anything to happen as we were traveling with another couple.
My first night to myself, I chose to meet an "escort" at her location. I arranged a taxi to take me there and was surprised that it was a laufhaus (in Germany, literally *house). I went to the room number that I was given and was met by a short, somewhat thick Romanian woman. She had a very "Roma / Gypsy" look to her. In any other circumstances, I would not choose this girl. But since I was already there, I went through. Had a decent time, 100 + an additional 20 for BBBJ. Just a couple positions, mish, CG and doggy to finish. Paid for the hour, but was in and out in about 30. This is my only experience in a laufhaus, but I was not impressed. Think a 2 star hotel with tired room, mirrors all around and tiny shower with trash receptacle overflowing with the tools of our hobby! The club was called Vesuvius.
The next day I rented a car with the intention of driving out to FKK Mystic on the outskirts of the city near the Germany border. The club is about a 20 minute drive, but a bit hard to find. You have to get off of the main highway and eventually find a small, one way, unpaved road through the forest. I didn't realize, but you can also have a taxi drop you off at the service pavilion on the highway and climb the stairs to the club. It can be seen from the highway. At this location there is the sauna club Mystic and a laufhaus for those who just want a quick relief.
My research on the club did not leave me with the impression that it would be very nice. I was pleasantly surprised to be very pleased with the club. Upon arrival, I was greeted at the front desk and asked if it was my first time there. She explained that there was an 85 (A Euro at the time + $1. 03 US) cover charge that included wine, beer and soft drinks and all the food you want off of the buffet. She had a girl, Loren show me around after changing. You are give a nice robe, towel and bath slippers that you change into. You leave everything else in the locker and store any valuables in the safe within. One you had a session with a girl, you both go back to settle up. The club consists of several rooms. The locker room has an adjourning shower area, dining room with a long table that has maybe 18 chairs and 2 food stations, one with salads and the other main entree. Food is typical German fare, lots of veggies, potatoes and pork. Don't expect fancy cuisine! At most times there were a few girls and a few guys at the table eating. It is also a decent spot to watch the girls as they go between the men's locker room, front desk and the main lounge area. There are also some televisions in here and were tuned to the World Cup broadcast.
The main lounge was spacious and had a bar where you can get the wine, beer or soft drinks. Distilled spirits are available, but you would need to purchase a full bottle, like for 150. There is a cinema (kino) room with 3 rows of beds where you can watch the porn videos they show. Very dated videos of older participants. Girls are willing to join you in here for a BJ and sex. Also they have an area with a small lounge and sauna with shower, another room with a steam bath and tanning bed (for he girls? A smoking room, an outside area and lastly a massage room with about 5 beds. When I was there a few of the guys were sleeping in the massage room.
About the girls in general. Most seem to be from Eastern Europe, predominantly Romania. I had 5 different girls while there, 4 Romanian and 1 from Moldavia. Darker complexion, like a tan, dark eyes and hair and pretty. All spoke decent English. There is a range of body types with most having nice hourglass figures, a few thicker and a few slender. Most were see breast or better and looked to be between the ages of 22-30. Only a guess. No older broads. The girls are naked in the club, with maybe a garter belt or stockings. You get a really good idea of what you getting! Rates seem to be standard; 70 for minimum will get you covered CFS, multiple positions for 30 minutes and CBJ, add 30 for BBBJ and an additional 50 for CIM. They really push the CIM and there are spittoons nearby for the deposit. All 5 girls I saw gave excellent BBBJ. Anal is available for 100 extra on top of any others. Seems they allow DATY, but not FIV. Do not expect GFE!
My first day there was a Saturday and was told there we 38 girls working. I didn't count, but sounds about right. About 1/3 are laying around in the main lounge, looks like they were resting or sleeping. Another 1/3 we're sitting around closer to the area of the bar, on stools or couches. I guess the other might have been with guys in the rooms are talking with guys in the lounge. The girls are friendly and will approach you to solicit and will go away if asked. There didn't seem to be that many guys there, maybe 15, mostly older (I'm 68, so older than me) and seemed to be regulars.
My first girl was Loren, a pretty blonde with dark roots, be cup, shaved, slim waste and nice hips and ass. I went all in with her, went to a private room 200 CFS, dildo play in her pussy and ass, DATY (I know, probably had a few cocks in her already, but still something I really like), then Greek with dildo in her pussy. Then moved to doggy on the side of the bed until I finished. Very vocal and lots of fun.
Took a little break and had a bite to eat. Was approached by chick from Moldavia, don't remember her name. Very proud, bigger tits, large areolas with prominent nips. She wanted to show me the porn cinema room where they also do massages. She wanted to give me a massage, but told her I wasn't interested. She asked if I wanted a BJ. Told her if we did BBBJ and in the cinema room, I was ready. Really good BBBJ, fucking, DATY, tit play, occasionally I guy or gal would come in to watch! I'm a fucking porn star. LOL!
Last girl was another Romanian. My perfect type, skinny, very pretty, glasses, small A's with tiny nips, looked to by maybe 20 yo. Same activity as the previous one in the cinema.
So a total of 485,4 hours and 3 sessions. Not too bad given the quality of the girls. To put into perspective, I've traveled to Club Hong Kong in Tijuana 3 times. While there is no cover charge, it can get very crowded in the evening. Usually you will pay 80-100 US for 30 minutes. If you have a room at one of HK facilities, it won't cost any extra or you can rent a room for the 30 minutes. You can negotiate for a BBBJ, but not always available. So, a little more at the FKK, but in my opinion, the quality and selection is better.
I checked out of the place, but didn't get enough. Came back on Sunday night, the next day and was told there were 27 girls working. Again not be guys around. Had bit to eat, then went into the lounge and was approached by a Romania girl, again, don't recall a name. Over to the Cinema room for a BBBJ, CFS, multiple positions and went the extra 50 for CIM. Finished there and then she went over to the spittoon to make the deposit. Back to the dining area to relax and recharge. Struck up a conversation with a local, had a bit to eat, then went back to the lounge area again. I had had my eye on another very pretty, slender gal with nice A cups and beautiful hair. No sooner than I sit down and she, Stephanie, comes over. Didn't take me long and we're off to a private room. I know I'm not going to cum again so soon, so CIM was not a option although she tried to upsell. I did go for BBBJ, which was very good and the cycled into several positions including K9 and standing MISH on the side of the bed. She really wanted me to CIM, so she went back to the BBBJ again and tried like a trooper, but it wasn't happening. ".
[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2983119]Very mixed. Didn't see any black. But tons of European, a few American, and definitely some Asian and south Asian. Some Arab too.
The ones I went to were in Frankfurt. Keeping in mind, Frankfurt is a massive airline hub like Atlanta. So it's easy for people to take a long layover.[/QUOTE]