Angeles City

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2019138]Stay right out of it BD.

Not only 4 of everything with your group of 3 + 1 but there will be family who will want to hitch a ride too. The dregs will trump the trip (if I can use the T word without causing anxiety in anybody).[/QUOTE]Another example BD is a friend who invited his lady to lunch at the Marriott (Sunday brunch, lots seafood etc) and found himself paying for 15 family members and friends who tagged along (she could not refuse them and tell them to stay put).

Or another friend who went to the province with his lady and sister to find himself paying for an impromptu fiesta.

Good advice from RK.

Go for it. It will be a once in a lifetime experience.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2019064]I will be in town in Holy Week and already feeling the pinch as even the best girls will prioritize the provincial street procession over servicing their faithful foreigner.

Have got one invitation to go with one of the girls to her town. Will be joining two of her friends for the trip. I'm thinking I am better to stay out of that arrangement as I will be paying 4 times for everything, 4 bus fares, 4 snacks, 4 dinners etc. I will take my chances on the remaining dregs in AC.[/QUOTE]

Guys prefer Viet ladies in PP. PP sucked and is a major drop off from Thailand. Time is better spent exploring Thailand. FLs in PP are beyond mediocre and one of their main discos became a gay bar.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2016863]I just came back from a trip to Phnom Penh after going to AC twice in the last 15 months. I already wrote a detailed trip report in the PP thread which you can find by searching through my articles. But I think it's also interesting to reflect on the pros and cons of AC vs PP. I know a lot of you guys here have been to PP but a summary of the differences between the two cities would help infrequent travelers who spend most of their time in the western world. Many people are like me, we don't have a lot of time to spend on vacations so choosing where to spend vacation time is important. That was a big decision I had to make last month: given only 2 weeks in between jobs, where should I go? This isn't a comparison meant for those who stay for long periods of time in SE Asia or come repeatedly. I'm not qualified to give those kinds of opinions.

AC Pros:

- Girls in general are prettier although there are definitely exceptions. For sure this is dependent on personal tastes. See notes below regarding how I made that judgment..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2019138]Stay right out of it BD.

Not only 4 of everything with your group of 3 + 1 but there will be family who will want to hitch a ride too. The dregs will trump the trip (if I can use the T word without causing anxiety in anybody).[/QUOTE]I appreciate the kind and helpful feedback. I was already staying out of it.

So, it works out OK. She will stay the night before she goes and will leave early. This timing paves the way for me to straighten the bed and wait for my graveyard call center girl to make an appearance.

Happy days.

BD.

Spent 4 days with my first trip to Angeles City. Expectations coming in had me nailing 10 girls with a few threesomes to pad my numbers. Instead, I had a whopping 3. Yes 3. Less than 1 per day and 2 of the 3 came in the form of an 'OK' threesome.

On paper this looks disastrous, but I have to say this was the best trip ever. To give you some background, I have earned my stripes in Tijuana, Singapore, Bangkok, Koh Samui, Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Shanghai. I am no stranger to the scene of finding the ladies. But nothing beats the experience I had in Angeles City.

I had my schedule all planned out with the expectation of hitting up multiple spots. First stop. Perimeter Road in the afternoon. Felt safe walking there from ABC hotel in broad daylight and the weather in March was good considering plenty of cloud cover for shade. I think I went in 3 bars ranging from dead with not-so-good looking girls to the other extreme of busy with lot's of good looking girls, but outnumbered by the Korean clientele (Lost in Asia). Finally found an in betweener. Good looking girls, but not so busy. I was having fun at this place with about half the girls teasing me and encouraging me to take their girlfriends. Sure was tempting, but not completely feeling it. Then all of a sudden. Bam! . This amazing woman appears and I knew I was about to strike gold. I wasn't supposed to because I had plans for the evening, but I could not resist. I barfined this lovely for 2 K and off to the hotel we go.

The sex was nice, but it was the GFE that jolted me. OMG! This woman was sexually pleasing, 20 years old, and freakin' beautiful! I normally view working girls as sexual. Some hot. Some ugly, but never as cute as who I was with. I'm talking girl next door with a personality that was all about being happy and fun and she spoke English. Money was never discussed and did not feel transactional at all. In fact, after having had sex during the day multiple times, we spent the night at High Society simply dancing together. GFE at it's finest. The next morning comes, we exchange numbers, and I tip her generously. Simply rewarding behavior that is valued by us in this hobby of ours.

The next day, I am determined to find my threesome with Atlantis being my spot. After getting myself situated at a table, I ask the waitress to get me hooked up with the open minded girls. She points out a gal for me and being that she met my minimum threshold of attractiveness, I said bring her on over. She comes over and the vibe is solid. I tell her the dealio that I'm wanting a threesome and allow her to choose her partner which happens to be pleasant to the eye as well. We eventually head back to the hotel after 3 k each to partake in a bit of fun. No GFE experience here. This was sex and the sex was average at best. Not the type of threesome you see in porn where the girls appear to be in love. After all was said and done after LT, I don't even think I tipped them. They hinted. But no tip. I reward great behavior, not average behavior.

Here comes day 3 and my first girl I find at Angeles starts the siren call by texting me. I am mesmerized so I track her down at the bar she works at. I walk in and say F' it. I am barfining her for the remainder of my trip. I ended up spending the next 2 days with this woman and I completely fell 'in love'. Now calm down. It's been 3 days. How can I fall in love? Well, I'm not truly in love, but this woman has me locked into her tractor beam. Beautiful, fun, young, and giving me undivided attention. How can one not fall in love with this concept? Of all the greater than 50 gals I have bagged in this hobby of ours, I have never felt so positively jolted by this one. And if not already happily married, I would be in a dire situation of wanting to make more of this relationship which conflicts with everything my brain tells me.

Nevertheless, my trip finally finishes up. She was with me at the beginning and with me at the end. We have maintained contact with each other since and are planning to meet up again in May. I thought I would never go back to Angeles again, but her tractor beam is that strong. I have to make it happen. And I rationalize to myself, if we don't hit it off again, what are the odds I will find another GFE as good as her. She was the first woman I found in Angeles!

So in summary, I have to rank this as my best experience amongst all other trips taken and am looking forward to the next.

This will certainly not make ROD. What to say that has not already been reported? As a first timer and well experienced with Pattaya I cannot help but make the comparisons and my apologies as I'm sure you've heard it all before. I was surprised by how much slower the pace is, almost no customers, so few ladies in most bars etc etc. One bar had a stunning "Hello, girl" and 2 dogs inside as an extreme example. Mostly though to my eyes, they just look kind of used up with not much beauty to be found and I believe that I am way less picky than most on my "home board". Those who are beautiful are striking. I did pull a "regular" dancer, not a spotlight girl, from After Dark last night. One of the mamas said as I was leaving "spotlight girls are better in the room". This girl was just OK and did not do all as promised when qualifying her. I understand that in that case no tip is allowed. I tipped her anyway as it was an OK session. Some of the FLs are downright scary. Maybe I will try to find a cute massage girl for the room. I have one night left then back to MNL for 2 nights. Some of the most fun I have had is drinking and flirting with GROs (I'm new to the terminology so sorry if I've got it wrong) in my hotel bar. They are not available except on their own time but it's been a laugh a minute in good English with all jokes fully understood. I don't get much of this in Thailand. The two who have reeled me in are cousins and are 21 and 23. The 21 yo is truly hot. The 23 yo is very sexy and a very charming jokester. I think they "go" sometimes and the older one is considering me for tonight. She seems so fresh. I'm hopeful.

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;2019437]Some of the most fun I have had is drinking and flirting with GROs (I'm new to the terminology so sorry if I've got it wrong) in my hotel bar.[/QUOTE]I have the most fun with the GROs in the bars too. I get them to come by after work when they are not too drunk. Never mind being new to the terminology; most of them have no idea what it means anyway. Try asking them and see what they say.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2019516]I have the most fun with the GROs in the bars too. I get them to come by after work when they are not too drunk. Never mind being new to the terminology; most of them have no idea what it means anyway. Try asking them and see what they say.[/QUOTE]Though my experience in the courting of GROs is not extensive, I don't think I've ever met one I couldn't bar fine, and I'vr met several whom I did bar fine. I always thought that GROs were basically girls who didn't want to dance, couldn't dance or didn't think they looked good enough in bikinis / thongs to dance. The same is true of waitresses in Angeles, as well as door girls. Unless things have changed drastically in the three months or so since I've been there, virtually everyone in every bar was available for take out.

GE.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2019531]Though my experience in the courting of GROs is not extensive, I don't think I've ever met one I couldn't bar fine, and I'vr met several whom I did bar fine. I always thought that GROs were basically girls who didn't want to dance, couldn't dance or didn't think they looked good enough in bikinis / thongs to dance. The same is true of waitresses in Angeles, as well as door girls. Unless things have changed drastically in the three months or so since I've been there, virtually everyone in every bar was available for take out.

GE.[/QUOTE]With respect GE, if one goes into the bars and is Q.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2019531]Though my experience in the courting of GROs is not extensive, I don't think I've ever met one I couldn't bar fine, and I'vr met several whom I did bar fine.[/QUOTE]You can definitely barfine them. I have even barfined mamasans. But I like to cheap charlie it most of the time so I wait until they get off work. Tell them to come straight to the hotel or meet me at High Society.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2018998]
I ask myself, Why exactly would westerners who want to visit the bars want to put up with this situation and maybe put their freedom at risk when so many other nearby destinations offer far more girls, far prettier girls, far slimmer girls that have no problem in barfining and showing a good time to westerners of any age and shape at very similar costs, the answer is, most are not.

That's not to say one should not visit ac, that it's impossible to get laid, but it does mean that westerners to get laid have to most times lower their expectation and maybe settle for their 4th /5th choice of girl because the 1st /2nd /3rd choice girl just refuses to barfine.[/QUOTE]Maaate, why are you always so negative? Seems like most of us travel in a parallel universe to you.

Why don't you just set up your own thread. Like, "Don't visit AC".

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2020174]Maaate, why are you always so negative? Seems like most of us travel in a parallel universe to you.

Why don't you just set up your own thread. Like, "Don't visit AC".[/QUOTE]With respect, the name of this forum is international sex guide where people are meant to report honestly on what they see and experience on their travels, good or bad.

I and I am sure many others will be honest enough to let the board and would be visitors know of what is happening on the ground without bias of wanting to gain from our reports, that is exactly what this board is designed for, sorry that does not sit well with your good self and your pocket, thanks.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2020174]Maaate, why are you always so negative? Seems like most of us travel in a parallel universe to you.

Why don't you just set up your own thread. Like, "Don't visit AC".[/QUOTE]Good observation ED.

I have been to AC and it is not my cup of tea so I don't go back there unless some overwhelming (and always very kinky) reason to return, I prefer other places.

But Napa still remains negative but returns there. Maybe another Matthew Cobb under a different handle (RTFF for that person and his negative AC FRs). That he returns and still dislikes and keeps saying it remains a mystery to me. Why would anyone with resources to go to the Philippines go to / return to a place he dislikes and is generally negative about (and disagrees with fellow mongers who differ in experience from him)?

I choose not to go having been there a few times, but I know mongers on the board who love AC and are happy with the place and what it offers mainly (I meet them elsewhere usually not AC).

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2020225]Good observation ED.

I have been to AC and it is not my cup of tea so I don't go back there unless some overwhelming (and always very kinky) reason to return, I prefer other places.

But Napa still remains negative but returns there. Maybe another Matthew Cobb under a different handle (RTFF for that person and his negative AC FRs). That he returns and still dislikes and keeps saying it remains a mystery to me. Why would anyone with resources to go to the Philippines go to / return to a place he dislikes and is generally negative about (and disagrees with fellow mongers who differ in experience from him)?

I choose not to go having been there a few times, but I know mongers on the board who love AC and are happy with the place and what it offers mainly (I meet them elsewhere usually not AC).[/QUOTE]Wr, not that I owe you any explanation but we have been over this countless times, you have asked me the same questions and made the same accusations on numerous occasions, yet you still flame without cause, if you had even bothered to read my previous posts some even just days ago or my recent trip reports where I clearly explain why I am in Angeles.

Now for the last time, a branch of my company is in Angeles, I travel there for work and out of boredom in the evenings like a few beers in the bars with friends.

No anxiety here, amigo <wink cheers.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2019138]Stay right out of it BD.

Not only 4 of everything with your group of 3 + 1 but there will be family who will want to hitch a ride too. The dregs will trump the trip (if I can use the T word without causing anxiety in anybody).[/QUOTE]