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[QUOTE=Adrena;1927333]What do all you mongers do during the day?

I've been to Pattaya twice and loved the experience. However, my only complaint is, what can I do during the day?

I only need 6 hours of sleep. I go to bed around 1 am and wake up at 7 am year-round. That creates a problem in Pattaya because their is nothing to do after breakfast.

I've hung out in a Starbucks, done the boat tours, and even tried my hand at shopping. I basically have a six hour time gap which desperately needs filled. Massage parlors can fill one hour, what about the rest of the time?

Expert mongers, help me out!

Side note, I'll be returning in Jan-Feb if anybody wants to meet up for a beer.[/QUOTE]Interesting question. A simple solution could be to adjust your body clock. Go to sleep by 5 am or later and wake up after noon. The way you will be able to maximize the potential Pattaya has to offer. Here is how in 10 easy steps:

1. Assume you wake up by noon and shit shower shave. Catch a bite if you are hungry, but keep it light.

2. Get to Soi 6 by 2 pm and you will have several options to pick from. I usually hang out for at least 2-3 hours there which covers a couple of drinks and good ST session. I also end up having a bit of late lunch.

3. By 5-6 pm I head back to my hotel and catch a nap for an hour or two.

4. By 8 pm latest I am on the street again, usually looking to get a massage. Sometimes a clean one sometimes a bit more than just a massage. This usually puts me in the 10 pm zone.

5. I get back to hotel and start evaluating my options for the night ahead. Online social media picks, the countless beer bars in Pattaya with loads of cuties, WS disco, GoGo bars, etc.

6. No matter where I pick from, I make sure it is a LT. The whole exercise of method selection, date identification, negotiation and closure takes roughly 2-3 hours. YMMV.

7. With my date for the night I head to one of the 4 or 5 discos (Insomnia, Pier, Marine, 808, Mixx. Insomnia is my favorite) and party for a couple of hours.

8. Back in the hotel by 4 am or thereabouts. Usually get a bit to eat on the way back. The street food is delicious. Once in the room bang the daylights out of the girl, It is usually dawn by the time I am finished.

9. Cuddle up and sleep. Wake up by noon, get the morning wood serviced and let her go with a nice "tip".

10. Repeat from Point #1.

[QUOTE=Adrena;1927333]What do all you mongers do during the day?[/QUOTE]Devils Den is your best daytime activity opens at 1 pm. Otherwise:

I will go for a nice walk after breakfast before it gets too hot. Usually the entire Beach Road crescent walkway down and back. Go back to the room, shower and surf the net. Go for a massage, grab some lunch, shopping / run errands / exchange money. Then spend some time at the hotel pool (mandatory my hotel has a pool) until about 5 pm. A nap before I start the evening, organize my thoughts, and I am good to go.

If you are frisky check the BR scene for some potential afternoon delight. Or take the baht bus over to Jomtien for a change of scenery. If it is rainy or uber hot you can always take in a movie.

Did I mention Devils Den? 555.

SL.

Thanks to Blanquiceleste and the others who shared a few ideas.

I've tried adjusting my body clock. It seems I don't stay in country long enough for it to happen. I already live in the same time zone as Pattaya, so it makes flipping my times more difficult. If I was flying from Canada, it'd be much easier. I'd just sleep from 1 pm to 7 pm.

Blanquiceleste, your average day sounds pretty much like mine. The only exceptions are number seven and the beginning of number one.

I absolutely hate packed night clubs. Loud music and crowds of people always ruin my night.

Your second number is spot on. I love Soi 6! Truthfully, my first trip, I went there once and didn't stop at a single bar. I simply didn't understand the street's dynamic.

My biggest problem is really from 8 am To 12 pm Everything is closed at that time. After 12, I can be one of those early bird customers at Hooters or Soi 6. Another poster mentioned pools. I think I'll stay at a hotel with one next time; good idea.

I posted a few reports about 100 pages ago. I'll add to them later today.

I checked the map for Kinnaree Club and seems to be middle of nowhere.

Can you get there by taking the baht bus?

Or is it only by mototaxi.

I usually stay around the LK Metro / Soi Bukhow area so how are the various ways to get there.

Also if need to take mototaxi, then what's the going rate and will they know location if I told them Kinnaree?

Thanks.

Many drivers won't know Kinnaree. Since I know the location I just tell them Pratumnak Hill and Soi 5. On soi 5 at the alley to Kinnaree there is a little Kinnaree sign on a pole. Kinnaree is closer to soi 5 than soi 4. Look for all the motorbikes out front.

From LK Metro I'm guessing motorbike will cost 60-80 baht, taxi 200-250. The return trip is more defined for taxi. Walk to soi 4, and head down towards the 7-11. You will see an Orange sign for Nordic. There is a taxi stand there 200 baht to Central Festival. I assume LK Metro will be the same price range.

Hey fellow mongers,

Pattaya has always greeted me with a warm smile. Would be visiting soon again in the first week of October! Anybody want to join me for a beer do let me know.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Adrena;1927674]My biggest problem is really from 8 am To 12 pm Everything is closed at that time. [/QUOTE]You could spend this time in your hotel swimming pool (if have) or take a boat and go to Koh Larn, I have some friends love it. If you are a sportman can go to the gym or running.

Or you could go in some nice breakfast buffet and spend time there drink and eat LOL.

[QUOTE=Freezone;1927680]Can you get there by taking the baht bus?[/QUOTE]Not sure because I always rent a motorbike and drive around, but I think have a baht bus go up and down Pratamnak Road, but probably you have to stop in the corner with pratamnak road and soi 4 or 5 and then walk down to Kinnaree.

Visited upstairs at Windmill tonight. Downstairs is jammed with the same not so great ladies. Upstairs there were 3-4 decent girls, especially for Windmill. One really nice one was being barfined as we arrived. BF is 1000 baht + 2000 2 hour ST. If you have no hotel, they have rooms upstairs. Thoroughly enjoyed our stay. I had written off Windmill but this has renewed my faith that you can have a super dirty club with decent girls.

Visited Super Girl. Always see some cuties sitting eating so it's been on my TDL for some time. Place was rocking. Many uglies but definitely a few I will return for. Don't expect high end Baccara girls here but the girls are decent enough for sure. I may have found a new hangout. Good vibe.

Both of the above are definitely worth a visit if you're doing the WS gogo clubs.

I wrote a post about 170 pages back. I want to re-post it with some additional info for the new bros who won't read back further than five pages and assume they have Pattaya figured out.

This is for complete beginners, so older members might think my observations are childish, because older members have been doing it for so long.

I won't give play by plays of my experiences unless it helps solidify my points. As always, older members are always welcome to chime in with their observations.

I was 31 years old when I first went in 2015. I am a 6'2" (188 cm) 218 pound (99 kg) white American male. I have abs, an outgoing personality, and can bench more than my weight for reps. I can get girls easily in every country I've visited. I'm not bragging, I only included this info because I want to emphasize that I paid the exact same for the girls as every other member of this board. Looks do not matter! The girls want your wallet, not your abs. If I walked into a gogo and didn't buy LD (lady drinks) they would ignore me just as quickly as they would ignore an 80 year old fat ass. However, I can recall several occasions where pot-bellied men started throwing cash around without question. They were much more popular than me. Always remember the motto; "cash is king".

I lurked on this board for about six months before my first trip and back-read reports for over 100 pages. I strongly suggest each monger do the same before they visit Pattaya. (but I know most of you won't).

Here are my tips that you should absolutely follow:

1. You should be able to quote price ranges for any service within each part of town at any given time of the day / week / year. You'll learn these prices from reading the last 100 pages of this forum. Don't be lazy, just do it! If you can't name at least three Soi 6 bars, or the average price of a FL on BR at 6 am, then you haven't read enough.

2. You should understand this is not your country or culture! People here act differently; don't expect them to change for you simply because you are unable to change for them. (which leads to my next tip).

3. Keep your eyes open. When you enter any place, hotels, restaurants, go-go's, it doesn't matter, look around and pay attention to what other people are doing. If you see a monger groping a girl and the girl is laughing, you are allowed to do the same. If you see mongers sitting on their hands, you better do the same until you see otherwise. Also, keep in mind that some people can do things others cannot. Indians get treated differently than Japanese, that's just the way it is. Know where you fit in. You'll have plenty of fun regardless of your background.

4. Plan on using at least 6,000 baht a day. Don't think you can get by with less on your first trip. Being tight with your wallet will ruin your holiday and leave a sour taste in your mouth. Don't try to argue on this one. If you can't bring at least 6,000 a day, don't go. After your first trip, you can plan on how much to bring, but first time just do as I say! That 6,000 does not include hotel fare either, you cheap bastard. Seasoned Pattaya mongers spend a lot less because they already know what works for them.

5. Have a game plan before you leave your hotel each morning. You don't have to plan every minute but at least know what part of town you want to visit. Thailand is hot, you don't want to be standing in the sun trying to decide where to go.

6. Don't try to do everything in one day. I know it's your holiday but don't go overboard. I tried to visit LK, Soi 6, WS, and go shopping all on my first day. It lead to me feeling hurried and stressed. I spent more time walking than I did enjoying my holiday. I realized that aiming for two destinations a day is a lot better. Soi 6 in the afternoon then WS at night worked beautifully for me. You can mix and match destinations.

7. Learn to love the baht buses. I walked everywhere the first two days; it was awful! I was staying near WS and I walked to Soi 6 and back several times. It was a big mistake. I eventually hopped on a baht bus, and everything was a lot easier after that revelation.

8. Lower your standards for what you need in a hotel. Like tip 2 suggests, don't expect things to be like back home. Do you really need to stay at a 5-star hotel? If the same answer is yes, go ahead and waste your money. You should make a list of the things you absolutely need in a hotel. My list was short: bed, toilet, near WS. I found a hotel with average ratings which was cheap. Turns out the hotel was freaking great! It was worth way more than the cost. My next trip, I'll be staying close to Soi 6.

9. Don't be shy! This is a rookie mistake I made. I tried being a gentleman and it made my trip less enjoyable. If you want a girl, go for it! Approach her, talk with her.

10. Just because you aren't shy doesn't mean you have a pass to be rude. Be the man with a smile, not the man with fist. If something frustrates you, remember this is your holiday. Let it go!

11. Relax! You will be overwhelmed your first time in Pattaya. You will get a flood of weird emotions. When that happens, find a relaxing place to reset and reassess your reasons for the visit. You read all these reports of men who land 11 girls in 6 days and you feel the need to do the same. The pressure can be bigger than you realized. Don't try to be that guy on your first trip. Be the guy laughing happily, not the dehydrated one looking to refill fluids. If you see a girl who gets you going, have fun! If you are tired from the previous girl, don't feel like you have to get another just to keep up with studs on this board. They've been here several times. They've been training for the marathon. You're still just a sprinter. Some of the guys in this forum are freaks of nature. Even with pills, I can't keep up with their numbers.

12. Try eating at different places for each meal. This one is a little more personal, but I feel the need to say it since I love experiencing new things. Don't go to the same place over and over. Also, be wary of seafood if it's been sitting outside all day.

IllusionHeart added these:

13. If you like a girl at a bar or gogo then barfine her or close the deal for ST or LT whichever you may like. Chances are that she will probably not be there if you come back for her after hopping few more places. There are tons of beautiful girls to meet everyone's taste and the search for the perfect one sometimes proves endless or tiresome. Hence as they say, "a bird in hand is better than 2 in the Bush. " Spend time enjoying the company of a girl rather then searching for the most beautiful girl around.

14. Girls are available around the clock in Pattaya. Do research for places if you have morning or day time preferences and you can roll 24 x 7 if you have the urge and stamina.

15. Do some reading on Ladyboys especially if you are not into them on how to identify and avoid as you can get a surprise in your room if haven't asked them before about their gender.

And the forum previously added this advice.

16. Know your drinking limit. If you get angry after seven beers, stop drinking at six. Your holiday will be quickly ruined if you make a drunken mistake. You don't want to start a fight in Thailand, and you don't want to be passed out drunk in the streets.

17. Know when to let stuff go. If the sign says "80 baht beer" but they charge me 90, I'll just let it go. 10 baht isn't worth fighting for. I once saw a monger angrily yell at two bartenders in the early afternoon because he was given a San Miguel Light instead of a regular San Miguel. I couldn't believe it! Don't be that guy. 1000 baht might be worth a disagreement, but 10 baht isn't.

18. Don't immediately get defensive when a girl quotes you a high price. If a BR FL asks for 1500, don't automatically think she trying to scam you out of your money. She's just trying to get what she can; don't take it as a personal offense because she didn't open with 800 or less. It is okay to negotiate, but it isn't okay to believe she hates you because that's what she asked for. Some guys take bargaining personal, please don't.

19. You'll see tons of posts in this forum arguing about money or complaining about Pattaya not being as great as it was; take those posts with a grain of salt. Many of them are bitter vets, or jealous haters. If you're new, you'll have the time of your life!

As always, older members are encouraged to add to this list. Your advice is more helpful than you may realize. I'll continue to add to this list and post an updated one in six months or so.

[QUOTE=Adrena;1928089]I wrote a post about 170 pages back. I want to re-post it with some additional info for the new bros who won't read back further than five pages and assume they have Pattaya figured out.

This is for complete beginners, so older members might think my observations are childish, because older members have been doing it for so long.

I won't give play by plays of my experiences unless it helps solidify my points. As always, older members are always welcome to chime in with their observations.

I was 31 years old when I first went in 2015. I am a 6'2" (188 cm) 218 pound (99 kg) white American male. I have abs, an outgoing personality, and can bench more than my weight for reps. I can get girls easily in every country I've visited. I'm not bragging, I only included this info because I want to emphasize that I paid the exact same for the girls as every other member of this board. Looks do not matter! The girls want your wallet, not your abs. If I walked into a gogo and didn't buy LD (lady drinks) they would ignore me just as quickly as they would ignore an 80 year old fat ass. However, I can recall several occasions where pot-bellied men started throwing cash around without question. They were much more popular than me. Always remember the motto; "cash is king".

I lurked on this board for about six months before my first trip and back-read reports for over 100 pages. I strongly suggest each monger do the same before they visit Pattaya. (but I know most of you won't).

Here are my tips that you should absolutely follow:
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4. Plan on using at least 6,000 baht a day. Don't think you can get by with less on your first trip. Being tight with your wallet will ruin your holiday and leave a sour taste in your mouth. Don't try to argue on this one. If you can't bring at least 6,000 a day, don't go. After your first trip, you can plan on how much to bring, but first time just do as I say! That 6,000 does not include hotel fare either, you cheap bastard. Seasoned Pattaya mongers spend a lot less because they already know what works for them.

"............[/QUOTE]Really great stuff Andrena!

I agree with just about everything you noted. I think your advice is spot on. Except for the daily budget.

IMO, 1500 baht / night will get you decent digs, 1000 baht / day (including an occasional meal one with your girl) for food and incidentals is enough (unless you want a high end restaurant with wine etc), and 2,500/ day for drinks and a girl (ST or LT) is also a decent number. So, 5,000 baht will also be just fine. Although, those of us who can and wish to spend more can and will surely do so for each of the above sub categories.

Now, as for me, IF I find a girl I like a lot then I may have her stay with me for 3 days straight, and eat out, relax, go shopping ( buy her stuff) , do touristy things with her etc....but that is the exception. And even with the best GFE experience, I enforce a 3 day max rule.

For those planning to stay for 2 weeks or more your average daily budget could be less, and if you rent your place for a month long visit, it will be even cheaper. And I doubt you will incur all of those expenses every single night, because you will want some relax and recuperation days! I usually need 1 after every 3 days, since I stay for many weeks and don't feel the urgency to pack it all in every single night.

Also, I don't much care for Soi 6 and instead substitute that with a massage girl in my apt for an oil massage. . but not all days. And, I don't care much for gogos and prefer primarily the disco/dance clubs, particularly Insomnia. So, keep that in mind too.

Finally, I suggest dress hip / cool, act hip, show energy vs lethargy, and come across as a fun guy. Girls (particularly the younger ones) don't want just a boring guy. And more so, if like me, you stick with the under (say) 28.

But, someone visiting for 5 or less nights, that person may end up spending more because of the restricted time factor and very little time for iterative learning that allows for optimization of your budget vs. Your likes and preferences.

[QUOTE=Haven123;1928106]I agree with just about everything you noted. I think your advice is spot on. Except for the daily budget.

IMO, 1500 baht / night will get you decent digs, 1000 baht / day (including an occasional meal one with your girl) for food and incidentals is enough (unless you want a high end restaurant with wine etc), and 2,500/ day for drinks and a girl (ST or LT) is also a decent number. So, 5,000 baht will also be just fine. Although, those of us who can and wish to spend more can and will surely do us for each of the above sub categories.

For those planning to stay for 2 weeks or more your average daily budget could be less, and if you rent your place for a month long visit. It will be even cheaper. And I doubt you will incur all of those expenses every single night, because you will want relax and recuperation days!.[/QUOTE]LOL, I knew the daily budget would get some responses. I put 6,000 because new guys are going to waste at least 1,000 a day on stupid stuff their first time: shirts, sunglasses, hats, losing bar games, or other traps the veterans avoid. Besides, if they end up with some extra money at the end of their trip, they'll be happier than if they didn't bring enough in the beginning.

20. Maintain a high energy attitude! Dress hip / cool, act hip, show energy vs lethargy, and come across as a fun guy. Girls (particularly the younger ones) don't want just a boring guy. And more so, if like me, you stick with the under (say) 28.

I'll make sure to add that to the next list.

Budget can vary widely.

You can stay at a cheap place for 750 baht or a decent place like Baraquda for 3000 baht.

You can eat street vendor food for you and your girl for 750 baht or go to restaurants at Central Festival for lunch and dinner that will set you back around 3000 baht.

Transportation can be baht buses all day for 100 baht on the high end or the rip off Pattaya taxi system for 1000 baht depending on where you go for the day / night.

Drinks can vary widely and depends on how many lady drinks you buy. Let's say you conservatively drink 5 beers per day and buy 5 lady drinks. That will be 850 baht. Obviously going to high end discos will run way more. See below.

Odds and ends you buy at 7-11 and Family Mart will be 200-300 per day.

Now the important stuff, going out with ladies.

A budget day. Soi 6 in the early evening will be 300 BF + 1000 sex. Picking up a girl on Beach Road for 700-1000 or at iBar for 2000-3000 LT.

A more expensive day. Soi 6 in the late afternoon, 300 BF + 1000 sex. Hitting 2-3 gogo bars. Taking out a WS gogo girl 1000-2000 BF + 3000-5000 LT. Going to a club like Hollywood 2200 bottle of whisky and 10 mixers + an extra 500+ for ice and snacks.

Add shopping with your girl too.... even buying cheap clothing, shoes, hats on WS can add another 500 baht for the night. I took one shopping at Central Festival once. I left her in the middle of the shopping trip.

As you can see depending on how you roll things add up. On the low end, 5000-6000 seems right. On the high end which happens way too often since I'm after top optics, can be triple that.

[QUOTE=Haven123;1928106]. And I doubt you will incur all of those expenses every single night, because you will want some relax and recuperation days!.[/QUOTE]

I wish I could take a day off. Not in my DNA.

[QUOTE=Adrena;1928110]LOL, I knew the daily budget would get some responses. I put 6,000 because new guys are going to waste at least 1,000 a day on stupid stuff their first time: shirts, sunglasses, hats, losing bar games, or other traps the veterans avoid.[/QUOTE]I think 6000 is a great budget point. I am not a new guy but I think it does make sense to spend money on the things you are calling stupid stuff. I have been doing it since my first time in Thailand 11 years ago and continue doing it to this day. I will walk into Tukcom and see an external hard drive that I need for 2000 baht, or a vendor on the street selling the toy of the year for 100 baht that I must buy for my nephews, or go by my leatherworker and get some shoes or a wallet made. To me a trip to Thailand is not just about bars and fucking.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1928164]I think 6000 is a great budget point. I am not a new guy but I think it does make sense to spend money on the things you are calling stupid stuff. I have been doing it since my first time in Thailand 11 years ago and continue doing it to this day. I will walk into Tukcom and see an external hard drive that I need for 2000 baht, or a vendor on the street selling the toy of the year for 100 baht that I must buy for my nephews, or go by my leatherworker and get some shoes or a wallet made. To me a trip to Thailand is not just about bars and fucking.[/QUOTE]Maybe "stupid stuff" was a poor choice of words. How can it be stupid if it makes you happy? I think a better phrase would be, "random unexpected costs" such as pills, clothes, souvenirs, condoms, 7-11 water, foot massages, ping-pong balls, lady drinks, ringing a rusted old bell, or seeing a movie. Those aren't usually added to a new bro budget. They only see hotel, food, alcohol, and sex. 6,000 just seems like the perfect first time number to me. One day, you might spend 3,000 but the next is 9,000. Pattaya is a wild place. I'm looking forward to my next visit!

I wish we could sticky the list to the top of the first page. I think it'd answer a lot of questions people have when they first find this site.