Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=Jsaxxon1221;3042086]Looking into a few hotels, narrowed down to Jardim / Itaim Bibi areas. Which one would you guys recommend, perhaps will split between two during my stay. I read up on these and they seem to be, or were guest friendly. Room service?

- Grand Mercure Itaim. - Renaissance So Paulo. - Melia Jardim. - Fasano. - Hotel Unique.[/QUOTE]Of all the hotels you mentioned, I recommend the Fasano Hotel in either Jardim or Itaim Bibi if money is no object and you don't mind spending $500+/ night on a room. It is a true 5 star hotel and their restaurant is outstanding. I stayed at the Fasano Ipanema in 2021 during covid for $125/ night and the hotel was great and very GF.

The Renaissance Hotel is a great hotel choice as well. I stay there on Marriott hotel points and Chase free voucher nights for a week or so nearly every trip. I also like to stay ant the Intercontinental and the Hyatt free on hotel points and voucher nights as well. Despite its out of the way location, the Hyatt is probably my favorite SP 5 star hotel.

And when I run out of hotel points and vouchers ect, I like to stay at friendly 4-star hotels like the Grand Mercure Itaim Bibi or the Marriott Executive Apartment Hotel, or the Gran Estanplaza Berrini.

[QUOTE=Sp1000;3042198]Casarao: R60 of entry and R50 of room charge for 30 min or R100 for 1 hour (if you go to the room).

Bomboa: R350 of entry and R210 of room for 1 hour (10% tax added for these items and drinks, as I remember).

Bomboa prices are a year old so not sure if it is increased now.[/QUOTE]That's a huge difference between these two and I imagine Scandallo is even higher despite a slight discount before 7 pm. Now the question for me is whether the quality of girls really varies among these three venues even if Scandallo being a larger venue will have higher numbers of girls.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3042301]That's a huge difference between these two and I imagine Scandallo is even higher despite a slight discount before 7 pm. Now the question for me is whether the quality of girls really varies among these three venues even if Scandallo being a larger venue will have higher numbers of girls.[/QUOTE]The only way to know is to go and experience it for yourself. Don't let the writings and preferences of others decide for you! I mean, if you're going all the way down there, why not take the time to visit as many places as you can at least once, especially if it's your first trip? For me, if I'm picking one from among these 3, then it's going to be Scandallo. Casarao would be second. Then Bomboa. And my preference isn't just about the girls, but also about the environment where you find those girls. You can find attractive girls at all three. But what's the overall experience going to be like (to include cost of course)? These are the things to think about. But in the end, it's best to go and experience and decide what works best for you, your own dick, and your wallet. There's no substitute for one's own personal experience!

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3042301]That's a huge difference between these two and I imagine Scandallo is even higher despite a slight discount before 7 pm. Now the question for me is whether the quality of girls really varies among these three venues even if Scandallo being a larger venue will have higher numbers of girls.[/QUOTE]The only way to answer your question is for you to go to these 3 bordellos and compare the quality differences to determine for yourself if Scan's higher total cost is worth it or not. There is a small degree of overlap. I have boom boomed the same girl in Bomboa and Scandallo a couple of times, and the same girl in Havanas and Scandallo once.

Here is how I would describe the comparison: Scandallo is premiere, #1 in terms of quality and quantity, Bomboa is #2 with a lot less girls to choose from and what looks to me like an older average age of their girls. Both places think of themselves as high class and they are. Casarao is different. A lot of girls show up there every night after midnight and there is a wider cross section of SP talent than at the other places. It is essentially a meat market and priced accordingly. And there is nothing wrong with that. KKK.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3042300]Of all the hotels you mentioned, I recommend the Fasano Hotel in either Jardim or Itaim Bibi if money is no object and you don't mind spending $500+/ night on a room. It is a true 5 star hotel and their restaurant is outstanding. I stayed at the Fasano Ipanema in 2021 during covid for $125/ night and the hotel was great and very GF.

The Renaissance Hotel is a great hotel choice as well. I stay there on Marriott hotel points and Chase free voucher nights for a week or so nearly every trip. I also like to stay ant the Intercontinental and the Hyatt free on hotel points and voucher nights as well. Despite its out of the way location, the Hyatt is probably my favorite SP 5 star hotel.

And when I run out of hotel points and vouchers ect, I like to stay at friendly 4-star hotels like the Grand Mercure Itaim Bibi or the Marriott Executive Apartment Hotel, or the Gran Estanplaza Berrini.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Fasano it is then, I have Amex points to use up and because it is in their fine hotels / resorts collection I get good freebies! Touchdown in a week, I've started some convos on SA, I don't know if they'll get anywhere but it keeps me entertained until I'm there!

I was recently in Sao Paulo for 12 days.

Accommodations: The first 7 days I stayed in a Moema airbnb, the last 5 at the W Sao Paulo in Vila Olimpia.

Clinicas: I only went to Abbobora this time around. 150r for room and 250r to the girl. BBBJ was given by 3 of 4 that I sessioned with. There were usually 12-15 girls during the week and 8-12 on Saturday. I was told 30 girls in total work there, with some girls just working on Fri / Sat. I saw 3-4 girls that had been there for at least 18 months (seen before) and a handful of brand new.

Seeking / Meu Patricinio (MP): My experience was mixed to bad given the effort that I put into it in preceding 3-4 weeks. For MP you will also need to know conversational Portuguese. I'd say 50% of the girls straight up P4 P, 30% in need of $$ for rent or tuition, 20% clueless. Girls would generally ask 800-2500r to meet. I ended up meeting 4 girls with costs ranging 800r to 1200r for 2 hours. 1 girl was a catfish and I sent home immediately. Also of note, some girls don't live in Sao Paulo, but will say they do with the expectation you'll fly them in (nuts!)

Favoritas: Had 2 of my regulars. One still works PT at Abbobora and another I met on Bumble of all places. Costs 500-700r for 3 hours and I usually tipped 50-100r for Uber. On one of my last nights the Bumble favorita brought a blonde friend for a threesome. Total cost 1600r.

Clubs / Boates.

Casarao: Went 2 x. I think the entry was 60-75 r, but I can't recall. The downstairs has been built out and looking quite nice. Usually 70-100 girls with them asking 300-400ST and 700-800 LT. I tried to negotiate, but girls were unwilling for me. A friend said that I look too gringo and dress too nice. I.e. I'm a mark LOL. With the new downstairs the quality seems to have gone up, but also a little more bitchy attitude.

Scandallo: Went 2 x on a Wednesday and Thursday. I paid the 700r entry both times. Girls would start at 1500-2000, but could be had for 1000-1200r. I was able to negotiate better here. I believe 125-175 girls, but it's hard to keep track. Better ratio of girls to guys, more consistently attractive girls, and great service from waiters. Rooms 340 r, drinks 45-100 r, bottles 800r.

Gauguin: Went 3 x from Tue to Fri. Entry was all over the map. 120 all consumable, 250 with 150 consumable, and I think 190 all consumable once. Girls start at 1200-1500, but could be had for 800-1000r, room was ~200r. Need to negotiate BBBJ prior, but all agreed if asked. Two other ISGers were getting LT for 1200r.

Bomboa: Went 3 x. Entry the first two times was 400r all consumable, but the last night they told me they now have an entry fee (was 98 r). Even Marco (head guy) said it was new. Perhaps someone else can confirm? There were 30-50 girls depending on the night and was told that 75-80 girls work there overall. I'd try to arrive by 9:30/10 pm before girls scooped up. Drinks mostly 40-90r. Girls would start at 1000-1200r and settle on 700-900r. No problem with BBBJ. Rooms 210-240 I believe.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3042337]I was recently in Sao Paulo for 12 days.

Clubs / Boates.

Scandallo: Went 2 x on a Wednesday and Thursday. I paid the 700r entry both times. Girls would start at 1500-2000, but could be had for 1000-1200r. I was able to negotiate better here. I believe 125-175 girls, but it's hard to keep track. Better ratio of girls to guys, more consistently attractive girls, and great service from waiters. Rooms 340 r, drinks 45-100 r, bottles 800r.

Bomboa: Went 3 x. Entry the first two times was 400r all consumable, but the last night they told me they now have an entry fee (was 98 r). Even Marco (head guy) said it was new. Perhaps someone else can confirm? There were 30-50 girls depending on the night and was told that 75-80 girls work there overall. I'd try to arrive by 9:30/10 pm before girls scooped up. Drinks mostly 40-90r. Girls would start at 1000-1200r and settle on 700-900r. No problem with BBBJ. Rooms 210-240 I believe.[/QUOTE]Is Scandallo now 700 R entry? Regardless of entry time?

[QUOTE=Combo;3042430]Is Scandallo now 700 R entry? Regardless of entry time?[/QUOTE]No he was unlucky to hit a band each night I guess. If thy have someone famous it's 700. Otherwise it's 400. And even on a 700 night if you leave before 11 they rebate it back. It's basically like a 300 band cover.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3042435]No he was unlucky to hit a band each night I guess. If thy have someone famous it's 700. Otherwise it's 400. And even on a 700 night if you leave before 11 they rebate it back. It's basically like a 300 band cover.[/QUOTE]Just confirmed with Scandallo that on a regular night it's 400 real before 7 PM, fully consumable. After 7 PM its's 600 real, 400 consumable. Didn't ask about the rebate on band nights but that may be because you are leaving before the band starts.

Hi, I'll go next month to Sao Paulo and Rio for the first time. Could you tell me what's the normal price to fuck sexy ladies between 18 to 25 ? And where do you meet them? Online? Or in nightclubs? And do you know if girls accept easily bareback in Brazil? Even for extra money? I always go Colombia and I always fuck bareback very easily. So I want to know if it's same in Brazil or not?

Totally new to this this thread and admit to haven't read through carefully yet. I've long had a thing for japanese girls but the scene in Japan seems too difficult for foreigners. I'm egyptian born and live in uk. I understand sao paulo has the largest japanese community outside of Japan. Therefore are true 100 percent japanese girls available as escorts here? Or maybe half japanese half brazilian girls. My preference would be 100 percent japanese. This is a shot in the dark not quite knowing what answers I will get here. If japanese girls are available in sao paulo I would make the effort to travel here as it might be my only chance of getting japanese girls. Any info on ages if available would be great and where to find them agencies or indepedents or clubs or massages etc. If anyone needs info on german FKK's please do message me. Thanks starletvoyager.

[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;3042556]Totally new to this this thread and admit to haven't read through carefully yet. I've long had a thing for japanese girls but the scene in Japan seems too difficult for foreigners. I'm egyptian born and live in uk. I understand sao paulo has the largest japanese community outside of Japan. Therefore are true 100 percent japanese girls available as escorts here? Or maybe half japanese half brazilian girls. My preference would be 100 percent japanese. This is a shot in the dark not quite knowing what answers I will get here. If japanese girls are available in sao paulo I would make the effort to travel here as it might be my only chance of getting japanese girls. Any info on ages if available would be great and where to find them agencies or indepedents or clubs or massages etc. If anyone needs info on german FKK's please do message me. Thanks starletvoyager.[/QUOTE]I have met a few Japanese Brazilian girls in Sampa, but not a lot. Not enough to fly all the way there just for that. Would not be worth it. I actually think you would be better off going to Japan itself for "real" Japanese girls. I hope to have a trip to Nippon myself in the future, and I have been doing my research. Just by reading the Tokyo thread, I have learned about do's and don't's, and about businesses that either cater to or accommodate foreigners. And it's really not all that crazy expensive either! If you want some "shashimi", even though it's available and good in Brazil, dude junk your reticence and go to the land of the rising sun!

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3042337]I was recently in Sao Paulo for 12 days.

Accommodations: The first 7 days I stayed in a Moema airbnb, the last 5 at the W Sao Paulo in Vila Olimpia.

Clinicas: I only went to Abbobora this time around. 150r for room and 250r to the girl. BBBJ was given by 3 of 4 that I sessioned with. There were usually 12-15 girls during the week and 8-12 on Saturday. I was told 30 girls in total work there, with some girls just working on Fri / Sat. I saw 3-4 girls that had been there for at least 18 months (seen before) and a handful of brand new.

Seeking / Meu Patricinio (MP): My experience was mixed to bad given the effort that I put into it in preceding 3-4 weeks. For MP you will also need to know conversational Portuguese. I'd say 50% of the girls straight up P4 P, 30% in need of $$ for rent or tuition, 20% clueless. Girls would generally ask 800-2500r to meet. I ended up meeting 4 girls with costs ranging 800r to 1200r for 2 hours. 1 girl was a catfish and I sent home immediately. Also of note, some girls don't live in Sao Paulo, but will say they do with the expectation you'll fly them in (nuts!)

Favoritas: Had 2 of my regulars. One still works PT at Abbobora and another I met on Bumble of all places. Costs 500-700r for 3 hours and I usually tipped 50-100r for Uber. On one of my last nights the Bumble favorita brought a blonde friend for a threesome. Total cost 1600r.

Clubs / Boates.

Casarao: Went 2 x. I think the entry was 60-75 r, but I can't recall. The downstairs has been built out and looking quite nice. Usually 70-100 girls with them asking 300-400ST and 700-800 LT. I tried to negotiate, but girls were unwilling for me. A friend said that I look too gringo and dress too nice. I.e. I'm a mark LOL. With the new downstairs the quality seems to have gone up, but also a little more bitchy attitude.

Scandallo: Went 2 x on a Wednesday and Thursday. I paid the 700r entry both times. Girls would start at 1500-2000, but could be had for 1000-1200r. I was able to negotiate better here. I believe 125-175 girls, but it's hard to keep track. Better ratio of girls to guys, more consistently attractive girls, and great service from waiters. Rooms 340 r, drinks 45-100 r, bottles 800r.

Gauguin: Went 3 x from Tue to Fri. Entry was all over the map. 120 all consumable, 250 with 150 consumable, and I think 190 all consumable once. Girls start at 1200-1500, but could be had for 800-1000r, room was ~200r. Need to negotiate BBBJ prior, but all agreed if asked. Two other ISGers were getting LT for 1200r.

Bomboa: Went 3 x. Entry the first two times was 400r all consumable, but the last night they told me they now have an entry fee (was 98 r). Even Marco (head guy) said it was new. Perhaps someone else can confirm? There were 30-50 girls depending on the night and was told that 75-80 girls work there overall. I'd try to arrive by 9:30/10 pm before girls scooped up. Drinks mostly 40-90r. Girls would start at 1000-1200r and settle on 700-900r. No problem with BBBJ. Rooms 210-240 I believe.[/QUOTE]This is a great overall report! Many thanks. I was thinking of staying in Moema as well. Did you have any problems with airplane noise there in Moema being close to an airport?

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;3042457]Just confirmed with Scandallo that on a regular night it's 400 real before 7 PM, fully consumable. After 7 PM its's 600 real, 400 consumable. Didn't ask about the rebate on band nights but that may be because you are leaving before the band starts.[/QUOTE]Yes, this trip I didn't go until 10 pm or so, and at least one of the nights there was definitely a band.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3042625]This is a great overall report! Many thanks. I was thinking of staying in Moema as well. Did you have any problems with airplane noise there in Moema being close to an airport?[/QUOTE]It is loud, but I personally don't as I try to get lower floors and bring earplugs should it get loud enough.