Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=Oakie;1570759]What IS "typical" in Sosua is typical the world over with PFP pros.

They'll promise you everything, and as long as you want, for a starting price.

Then everything else is extra, They'll expect a propina, and motoconcho money.

You tell 'them how satisfied you are and they'll expect double the price. Then they'll leave. Early.

But hey, you want to fall asleep in the arms of your new dream girl. But, truth is you're on vacation. She has a bambina and momma or another relative waiting for her to take care of the baby, or bring home some food, or the rent, or to help repay the ongoing loan. If she hasn't made enough money, she may want to try her luck on the last call at Rhumba, or the Casino.

What's NOT typical.

There are some who will tell you that they have chicas that don't even ask to be paid.

I've even seen a posters on this board that claims she paid him, LOL.

Now I have a GF down there. I don't pay her every time we do it, and yes, she'll pay the bar tab if I'm short, but let there be no mistake, over all I'm paying as much (and probably more) than the average monger.

There's worse ways to spend money. So play and enjoy the game.[/QUOTE]I try to be more understanding regarding the situation of these women but when you get bad service it is so depressing it is very difficult to be understanding. Fact is like every financial transaction there is a contract, our part is to pay the money, their duty is to deliver their part of the agreement. If we don't pay the agreed to amount for service we would have failed in delivering our part of the contract then all hell will break loose. If they don't do their part, it is ok because they have a sick mother and a bambino, of which I am not sure is the case. If I was certain of their situation then perhaps I'll be more understanding. Also I am certain that providers in other countries where service is much better have similar situations. Well, I suppose DOP1500 is like $35, so I should not be too pissed. However, I prefer to spend $100 or more and get good service than to get bad for $30. It's not the money but the principle.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1570722]Typical for you perhaps. Not necessarily typical for everyone otherwise the trade would have dwindled years ago..[/QUOTE]Yea, and go where? Where else can he take his 2000 pesos or roughly 46 bucks, this side of asia, and spend more than 20 minutes of express lane sex? The DR is for value, not great sex. Of course there are exceptions and many know how to work it but absent that, for non-seasoned most others its average at best with a strong chance of drama.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1570786]I try to be more understanding regarding the situation of these women but when you get bad service it is so depressing it is very difficult to be understanding. Fact is like every financial transaction there is a contract, our part is to pay the money, their duty is to deliver their part of the agreement. If we don't pay the agreed to amount for service we would have failed in delivering our part of the contract then all hell will break loose. If they don't do their part, it is ok because they have a sick mother and a bambino, of which I am not sure is the case. If I was certain of their situation then perhaps I'll be more understanding. Also I am certain that providers in other countries where service is much better have similar situations. Well, I suppose DOP1500 is like $35, so I should not be too pissed. However, I prefer to spend $100 or more and get good service than to get bad for $30. It's not the money but the principle.[/QUOTE]Then perhaps Dom Rep is a wrong destination for you unless you might feel getting even after one good performance out of three. Maybe try Brazil, there they can take it!

My experience in Dom Rep is on a Bell curve one, one in five is superb, one good, one fair, one unsatisfactory and one a disaster. Basically, in two thirds of cases I am happy. It beats the odds money wise for me and for many others. I try to stay cool, just pay and Next! Escort her back to strip and take another contestant.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1570778] However, in trying to be fair to the chicas I am not small and I like to practice porn star sex. I don't think Dominican women like that. Also, again to be fair to the Dominican chicas they are good at 'run of the mill' sex. To be additionally fair to them I have no time for GFE, for me it is point and click. Boring but that's me. Someone may tell me then go to Brazil, Argentina or El Salvador, my retort, I like a variety of destinations and women.[/QUOTE]That was nice of you to have elaborated further. Thanks. I have no idea of Argentina, El Salvador or Brazil but I would imagine, if it is viagra fueled porn sex for one hour of continuous humping or more, with a sheath on, there is likely to be tear of inner vaginal wall which is not pleasant for a woman anywhere (other than the fact that it increases chances of infection), less so for a pro who is required to do it day in and day out, multiple times, if she is lucky enough, each day. For the porn stars it might be okay, they get paid a lot more I imagine and so do not need that frequency but for even a $100 fuck, it might be too much to expect, indeed anywhere, methinks.

I have had women in DR (not pros) mounting me of their own accord several times all through the night, indeed it was like porn sex to me as in those instances, it was I that wanted to sleep after draining my sack, haha.

You can describe the bad performer, some of us may recognize just with the description and sometimes it helps other mongers in keeping in mind who to be look out for. Everyone has had a bad experience in Sosua, or in Argentina, or in Thailand, or anywhere else. No one gets the 9/10 experience every time. If you're having more decent experiences and a couple above average experiences...you're doing just fine. When you are point and click, it's probably more difficult to have a "good" experience as some chicas are much better when they feel like they know the man or develop a little bit of chemistry. Even though Sosua has so many chicas, and you would think point and click would be easy...after visiting a few times in the last six months I believe it's a good monger destination if you have a little bit of patience. And it is definitely among the best in terms of value. If I am in DR for a few days, I will usually try 2-3 chicas a day (3 is pushing it but 2 is good). So over a 3 day trip you're talking about 6 different chicas (assuming I don't want to repeat). I'll usually have 1 or 2 above average experiences, 3-4 decent experiences, and then a couple "shoulda known better" experiences. And I'm OK with that. There will always be chicas who try to take advantage and get more money from you or don't deliver on something, but that's just life. The best we can do is learn from those experiences and minimize the chances of them happening again. I don't believe anyone here has any special sensing powers that immediately alert one to which chica is going to scam you... Enjoy the game, it's only fun with the right attitude.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1570720]Just had another typical session from a chica here. We agreed to DOP2000 for two hours. After 40 minutes she wants to stop. I say ok 1 hour DOP1000, she wants DOP2000, I say no way, she says no way DOP1000. Ended up giving her DOP1500 to leave. I notice you guys don't post photos of bad performers here so I won't start a trend especially as I'm not certain of ISG etiquette. Fortunately I'm having an otherwise great vacation here diving, snorkling, kiteboarding in Cabarete, etc.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;1570786]I try to be more understanding regarding the situation of these women but when you get bad service it is so depressing it is very difficult to be understanding. Fact is like every financial transaction there is a contract, our part is to pay the money, their duty is to deliver their part of the agreement. If we don't pay the agreed to amount for service we would have failed in delivering our part of the contract then all hell will break loose. If they don't do their part, it is ok because they have a sick mother and a bambino, of which I am not sure is the case. If I was certain of their situation then perhaps I'll be more understanding. Also I am certain that providers in other countries where service is much better have similar situations. Well, I suppose DOP1500 is like $35, so I should not be too pissed. However, I prefer to spend $100 or more and get good service than to get bad for $30. It's not the money but the principle.[/QUOTE]I hear ya.

Point and click is fun, but it's always a gamble. It is as they say, "a box of chocolates". (no pun intended).

Consistent good service may require a bit of an investment, and a bit of game. If you can let them think you might be available for a GF, they may look at you as a potential longer term investment, maybe even a Western Union boyfriend down the road, and try a little harder to please you. It usually takes more than one shot though.

If the chica is aware (and they always can tell. You are being watched, LOL) that you are a point and click guy, she'll do her best to max out the one opportunity she has with you, and if it takes a little "drama", so be it.

If you expect a honeymoon night experience from a stranger, you at least have to act like a potential groom. LOL

[QUOTE=Turgid;1570786]I prefer to spend $100 or more and get good service.[/QUOTE]Most guys come to the DR because it is cheap. Cheaper airfares, hotels, transport, food drink and labor costs than most destinations. For many it is all they can afford. Others who could afford more still find it the best value for money.

If you can afford to, and are willing to, pay US $100 and up for ST sex, I congratulate you, but you ought to be going somewhere else. That is a crazy price to pay in Sosua. It is like putting a Formula One engine in a Ford Lotus.

Either go somewhere where the high rollers go, or sharpen up your act. We all strike out sometimes. The girls are human, not robots, and we all have bad days. But if you are not paying around 1500 pesos, and getting value for money at least 80% of the time, then you are doing it all wrong.

If you want super porn-star experience, you will rarely find that in Sosua unless you know the area and have cultivated some contacts. To more or less be guaranteed that from a girl you don't know, you need to go to other destinations (maybe Brazil?) and pay a lot more overall.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1571005]Most guys come to the DR because it is cheap. Cheaper airfares, hotels, transport, food drink and labor costs than most destinations. For many it is all they can afford. Others who could afford more still find it the best value for money.

If you can afford to, and are willing to, pay US $100 and up for ST sex, I congratulate you, but you ought to be going somewhere else. That is a crazy price to pay in Sosua. It is like putting a Formula One engine in a Ford Lotus.

Either go somewhere where the high rollers go, or sharpen up your act. We all strike out sometimes. The girls are human, not robots, and we all have bad days. But if you are not paying around 1500 pesos, and getting value for money at least 80% of the time, then you are doing it all wrong.

If you want super porn-star experience, you will rarely find that in Sosua unless you know the area and have cultivated some contacts. To more or less be guaranteed that from a girl you don't know, you need to go to other destinations (maybe Brazil?) and pay a lot more overall.[/QUOTE]Not to mention that it ruins it for the rest of us. I will be there soon. I had some chick sitting in New Garden qoute me 6000 RP and I started laughing real hard. She must've thought I was a newbie sucker. Some will do just that wait and see if they can snatch a sucker and upsell them.

If you want one and done girls you can not expect any honey moon treatment. The girls service one and done guys all the time. From their point of view it is in their best interest to get you off and leave asap. Start looking for the next pay day which can be quite a wait. It is not easy snagging guys with all the competition in Sosua. If you find a girl that you like hit it again and you will be surprised how good things can be. I keep the numbers of girls who please me. The girls treat you like a date when they know you. Being a first time john is always a little nervous for the girl and us as well. No doubt the freaks in Brazil are consistently better in bed but if you put little time in our sport. You can get everything you want in Sosua for half the cost. Point and click action can be had everywhere and is like masturbation. Wipe your dick off and move on.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1570961]I hear ya.

Point and click is fun, but it's always a gamble. It is as they say, "a box of chocolates". (no pun intended).

Consistent good service may require a bit of an investment, and a bit of game. If you can let them think you might be available for a GF, they may look at you as a potential longer term investment, maybe even a Western Union boyfriend down the road, and try a little harder to please you. It usually takes more than one shot though.

If the chica is aware (and they always can tell. You are being watched, LOL) that you are a point and click guy, she'll do her best to max out the one opportunity she has with you, and if it takes a little "drama", so be it.

If you expect a honeymoon night experience from a stranger, you at least have to act like a potential groom. LOL[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;1570720]Just had another typical session from a chica here. We agreed to DOP2000 for two hours. After 40 minutes she wants to stop. I say ok 1 hour DOP1000, she wants DOP2000, I say no way, she says no way DOP1000. Ended up giving her DOP1500 to leave. I notice you guys don't post photos of bad performers here so I won't start a trend especially as I'm not certain of ISG etiquette. Fortunately I'm having an otherwise great vacation here diving, snorkling, kiteboarding in Cabarete, etc.[/QUOTE]Generally there is no hard and fast rule about ST sex anywhere. She opens her pussy and you do the deed. You cum and end of story. Like anywhere there are girls with economic sense. They feel they need to really satisfy the client for the money. Others do not think twice about holding the business end of the agreement. All bets are off irrespective of your negotiated and agreed deal once you cum.

However some girls stay with you if they like you. These girls become hard to get rid off.

One word of advice however is do not short change the girl. You never know who her contacts are.

Great points made by all. I point and click in every destination I go to and get great service in some and good in others, the only country where I've gotten worse service than in DR is India which is totally not a mongering destination. In one trip to Argentina I sessioned with over 20 girls and the worst was the only DR provider I went with. Anyway I hear you guys and would stop whining and enjoy the 60 per cent borderline ok service I get here. Just don't have the time or inclination for GFE, much prefer spending that time listening to good music, reading or doing work related research. I must say though that I love the country, the outdoor activities, the food and the people generally. Next destination, late June, Colombia, not as good outdoor recreational activities but better poontang.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1570868]That was nice of you to have elaborated further. Thanks. I have no idea of Argentina, El Salvador or Brazil but I would imagine, if it is viagra fueled porn sex for one hour of continuous humping or more, with a sheath on, there is likely to be tear of inner vaginal wall which is not pleasant for a woman anywhere (other than the fact that it increases chances of infection), less so for a pro who is required to do it day in and day out, multiple times, if she is lucky enough, each day. For the porn stars it might be okay, they get paid a lot more I imagine and so do not need that frequency but for even a $100 fuck, it might be too much to expect, indeed anywhere, methinks.

I have had women in DR (not pros) mounting me of their own accord several times all through the night, indeed it was like porn sex to me as in those instances, it was I that wanted to sleep after draining my sack, haha.[/QUOTE]I think even porn starts suffer from medical problems of various kinds up to and including HIV. There was a recent report of a woman who appeared in a porn movie who committed suicide not long after. [URL]http://gawker.com/college-freshman-outed-as-casting-couch-porn-actress-1580301720[/URL].

I think if you want "porn star" sex as opposed to a regular sex date, you have to negotiate that up front. What you see in porn movies online may appear to be spontaneous sex, but I am quite sure that every act performed for the camera is prediscussed and prenegotiated and paid at a suitable level for the inconvenience involved. It is part of the art of the cinematographer to make it look like you are watching something passionate and natural, but really it is more contrived than a first glance would allow.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1571029] I point and click in every destination I go to and get great service in some and good in others, the only country where I've gotten worse service than in DR is India which is totally not a mongering destination.[/QUOTE]Worse than DR? You are kidding? In the DR, with a little bit of language and kindred spirit, you can pick up women anywhere pros and semi and prostitution, if you are into it, is legal. India is a fucked up place, big time, no clear legal status and this despite the fact that prostitution is everywhere. The mongers are routinely overcharged, shortchanged and even in places where there are "casas", it is very short on material comfort not to mention of scams based on police scares. The women showing up at your hotel can be sketchy and the middlemen are mostly con jobs. People there who can afford would much rather fly to BKK or SIN. No comparison!

[QUOTE=Turgid;1570786]I try to be more understanding regarding the situation of these women but when you get bad service it is so depressing it is very difficult to be understanding. Fact is like every financial transaction there is a contract, our part is to pay the money, their duty is to deliver their part of the agreement. However, I prefer to spend $100 or more and get good service than to get bad for $30. It's not the money but the principle.[/QUOTE]The charm of the DR is that many of the girls are just like having sex with regular girls and that many of them are not really professional. That is the charm and attraction of the DR, that plus the general cheapness of life. (A reasonable hotel room in Sosua a short walk from the beach, cafes, and bars, is cheaper than an Econolodge room for 8 hours on an Interstate Highway intersection in Florida).

Having said that, I have had fantastic sexual experiences with scores of Dominican women over the last dozen years. Yes, there have been some best forgotten, but the majority have been excellent. However it usually pays to develope a bit of a relationship if you want to see the full extent of their erotic imaginations at work. They won't necessarily pull out all the stops for "point and click". You can always point, but hot sex demands that you both click together.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1571068]The charm of the DR is that many of the girls are just like having sex with regular girls and that many of them are not really professional. That is the charm and attraction of the DR, that plus the general cheapness of life. (A reasonable hotel room in Sosua a short walk from the beach, cafes, and bars, is cheaper than an Econolodge room for 8 hours on an Interstate Highway intersection in Florida).

Having said that, I have had fantastic sexual experiences with scores of Dominican women over the last dozen years. Yes, there have been some best forgotten, but the majority have been excellent. However it usually pays to develope a bit of a relationship if you want to see the full extent of their erotic imaginations at work. They won't necessarily pull out all the stops for "point and click". You can always point, but hot sex demands that you both click together.[/QUOTE]Can extra cash replace the mutual click?